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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yes, VerbNet is a very good lexical resource. You should also look at Lemon and Core-Lex, other very useful resources developed by Paul Buitelaar and colleagues:
<a href="http://paulbuitelaar.net/">http://paulbuitelaar.net/</a>. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> corpora-bounces@uib.no [mailto:corpora-bounces@uib.no]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rich Cooper<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 06, 2014 7:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Jim Fidelholtz'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'CORPORA discussion forum'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Corpora-List] WordNet vs Ontology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Now that I remember it, I once pulled the verbs out of the WordNet prolog files, which are perfect for that kind of extraction. It gives some info about the
verb signatures, though nothing Lego-like that can restrict the parameters by type and by permissions, perhaps with constraints on assigning values.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Has anyone seen Verb extraction elsewhere for WordNet or VerbNet?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-Rich<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Rich Cooper<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">EnglishLogicKernel.com</span><span style="color:blue"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com</span><span style="color:blue"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Rich Cooper [<a href="mailto:rich@englishlogickernel.com">mailto:rich@englishlogickernel.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Jim Fidelholtz'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'John F Sowa'; 'CORPORA discussion forum'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Corpora-List] WordNet vs Ontology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks Jim, I found it at:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/primus%20adesse">http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/primus%20adesse</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">But it looks like I have to register or use the web page which only does translations. It would be nice to have the actual English to Spanish dictionary which
the offer, so the verbs in English would be enumerated. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-Rich<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Rich Cooper<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">EnglishLogicKernel.com</span><span style="color:blue"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com</span><span style="color:blue"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Jim Fidelholtz [<a href="mailto:fidelholtz@gmail.com">mailto:fidelholtz@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 06, 2014 12:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rich Cooper<br>
<b>Cc:</b> John F Sowa; CORPORA discussion forum<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Corpora-List] WordNet vs Ontology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Rich,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't know too much about VerbNet, but I would recommend you take a look at ADESSE (just Google it), which is a sort of computerized verb dictionary of Spanish, with lots of information on the structural components of the verbs. While
there are some clear differences between Spanish and English verbs, especially in terms of their complements, the general idea, I think, is applicable to any language (even English!).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jim<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">James L. Fidelholtz<br>
Posgrado en Ciencias del Lenguaje<br>
Instituto de Ciencias Sociales y Humanidades<br>
Benemérita Universidad Autónoma de Puebla, MÉXICO<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Rich Cooper <<a href="mailto:rich@englishlogickernel.com" target="_blank">rich@englishlogickernel.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Whatever happened to VerbNet? Are they still<br>
operating, and has it gotten very far with users<br>
yet?<br>
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-Rich<br>
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Sincerely,<br>
Rich Cooper<br>
EnglishLogicKernel.com<br>
Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com<br>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:corpora-bounces@uib.no">corpora-bounces@uib.no</a>] On Behalf Of John<br>
F Sowa<br>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 5:37 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 8/6/2014 5:57 AM, liling tan wrote:<br>
> Is wordnet an ontology? If it is not an<br>
ontology, what is it?<br>
<br>
WordNet is widely used as a resource for<br>
developing and relating<br>
ontologies in AI, computational linguistics, and<br>
the Semantic Web.<br>
<br>
But most projects in those fields distinguish<br>
lexical resources,<br>
such as WordNet, from the formal ontologies that<br>
are specified<br>
in some version of logic.<br>
<br>
> What is the definition of an ontology? Is<br>
anything<br>
> (words/concept/entities) under a hierarchical<br>
structure<br>
> some sort of linguistic ontology?<br>
<br>
In philosophy, ontology is the study of existence.<br>
In computational<br>
systems, *an* ontology is a collection of formally<br>
defined terms<br>
that characterize the entities that exist in some<br>
domain and the<br>
relationships among those entities.<br>
<br>
WordNet, Roget's Thesaurus, dictionaries,<br>
terminologies, and other<br>
lexical resources focus on words in various<br>
languages. They are<br>
valuable as a starting point for the analysis<br>
required to state<br>
formal specifications. But much more analysis is<br>
needed to refine<br>
those definitions for a particular theory of<br>
ontology.<br>
<br>
> Are linguistic ontology / information science<br>
ontology<br>
> subjected to only upper and domain ontology?<br>
<br>
There is no consensus about how linguistic<br>
resources can or<br>
should be related to formal ontologies or how<br>
either kind<br>
of resource should be structured.<br>
<br>
But it is common to have an underspecified upper<br>
level<br>
for general terms and lower-level specializations<br>
(AKA<br>
microtheories) for more specialized terms. Some<br>
very large<br>
system, such as Cyc, have an upper-level,<br>
mid-level, and<br>
lower-level.<br>
<br>
The categories in Cyc are rarely mapped to and<br>
from common<br>
words that have a huge number of word senses.<br>
They are more<br>
likely to be mapped to word phrases or to very<br>
specialized<br>
technical words.<br>
<br>
> Any other comments about ontology and wordnet?<br>
<br>
Following are the slides of a tutorial about<br>
ontology, logic,<br>
and issues of relating them to language and<br>
computation:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.jfsowa.com/talks/kdptut.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.jfsowa.com/talks/kdptut.pdf</a><br>
<br>
John<br>
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