<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Hello everyone, </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I am also very interested. I am keen to participate in research regarding:</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>-
theoretical and methodological framework coordinating NC, teacher training and assessment</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>- grammar content knowledge in teacher training</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>- pedagogical content knowledge in teacher training</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px;
font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Regards,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Sara</div><div></div><div> </div><div>Sara Liviero</div>
<div>ESRC Funded Doctoral Researcher</div>
<div>Grammar teaching in MFL</div>
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<div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:sara.liviero@yahoo.co.uk">sara.liviero@yahoo.co.uk</a> <var id="yui-ie-cursor"></var></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Tuesday, 18 February 2014, 12:31, ann gavriel <sense07@waitrose.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv7910939929"><style>
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</span></font></span></span></font>The original post from edling (16
Feb from Francis) caught my interest. Optimising linguistic knowledge /dissemination
(= not just preaching to the converted at conference, in journals, & so
on..) has always had my vote but particularly for teacher training domains. A
place to start is language learning more generally, because since Latin went
off-syllabus for mainstream secondary education, many native English ( USA & UK & elsewhere) users are not
taught ‘grammar’ even semi-formally. But those teachers who have
at any stage learnt a second or third language have a conscious and developing
intuitive awareness of grammatical categories at least. So we need to be less
Anglo-philic in terms of what we mean also by ‘syntax’. French and
German secondary education still teaches different levels of ‘philology’.
We can learn nothing unless we have control over our language, or the language
of our schooling. So we begin with teacher training syllabuses,
internationally, I would suggest. I am a keen participant in any project,
Alex. My postgrad Masters and 25 year career has been in Applied Linguistics,
at the tertiary level but very broad interests….</div>
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<div class="yiv7910939929MsoListBullet" style=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Best wishes to all on this project,</span></font></div>
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edling-bounces@bunner.geol.lu.se [mailto:edling-bounces@bunner.geol.lu.se] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Alex Baratta<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> 17 February 2014 19:00<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> The Educational Linguistics
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Edling] Linguistics
in Education</span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span></div></div>
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I'd love to be involved with this. One implication of this subject, as the
website states, is that it requires a more grounded knowledge of syntax on the
part of the teachers. I'm not suggesting they don't have this knowledge of
course, but that it might represent knowledge not previously required for
younger students. However, it is needed, as there are of course nouns/verbs
which are more prototypical than others and for whom traditional definitions
don't always fit. I'm happy to work on a collaborative project in any way I
can, as educational linguistics is an area I'm involved with.<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv7910939929MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><font size="3" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;">From: diane.pecorari@lnu.se<br clear="none">
To: edling@bunner.geol.lu.se<br clear="none">
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:15:57 +0000<br clear="none">
Subject: Re: [Edling] Linguistics in Education</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv7910939929MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">That's a super idea,
Francis, and surely the sort of project to which a wiki is best suited, i.e.,
coming up with a collective, received articulation of how the phenomenon we're
all interested in should actually be defined.</span></font><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"></span></font></div>
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edling-bounces@bunner.geol.lu.se [mailto:edling-bounces@bunner.geol.lu.se] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Francis Hult<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> den 16 februari 2014 14:39<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> edling@bunner.geol.lu.se<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Edling] Linguistics in
Education</span></font><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv7910939929MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">I recently came across a Wikipedia entry
for 'linguistics in education':</span></font><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><br clear="none">
</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics_in_Education">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics_in_Education</a></span></font><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><br clear="none">
</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;"> </span></font><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><br clear="none">
</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">I wonder if it would be worthwhile to put
the collective wisdom of the Edling list to developing it or, perhaps,
creating a new entry for 'educational linguistics'.</span></font><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><br clear="none">
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</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Francis</span></font><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"></span></font></div>
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