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size=2 face=Arial>Tommy,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=509222018-05042014><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>You have the insight and deep grasp of language-culture
interface etc. You therefore understand the limitations of online language
learning. I began learning Spanish in an evening class- it was such
a blessing because every member of that class - 18 people - was a learning and
teaching asset to themselves and to their classmates. Language learning is
about feeling happy that 'they' (whoever they are) understand, respond, speak
back to you.. To feel successful in the first faltering steps.
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=509222018-05042014><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>We need interpersonal reassurance in the flesh.. to see the
sudden joy when a person communicates, and to feel that yourself. Is that
possible online.... Like you, I wait to hear how it 'feels' and how
successful...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial>Ann S. Gavriel</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=509222018-05042014><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Norwich, UK</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> edling-bounces@bunner.geol.lu.se
[mailto:edling-bounces@bunner.geol.lu.se] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Tommy B
McDonell<BR><B>Sent:</B> 01 April 2014 22:22<BR><B>To:</B> Ed
Ling<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Edling] The online language learning
challenge<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I would like to see the term "learn/ing" defined. I live in NC now
and no longer have access to NYU's wonderful databases, and only can access NC
consortium, which does not give me all the journals you all read. However, when
I left NYC in 2008, while there was research on people doing better in certain
areas of technology enhanced language learning (TELL or the old CALL), it was in
specific areas. For example, reading, and being able to see the glossary.
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<DIV>However, just because one can access a free app, doesn't mean that you can
learn a language. Learn to speak it? Learn to read it? What happens to
sociocultural pragmatics (which I have enough trouble being a New Yorker and
having moved to the South, much less if I were in Poland where I can read but
not enough vodka in the world will get me to speak, my affective filter is that
high!). </DIV>
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<DIV>I will be interested in what comes up. </DIV>
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<DIV>Tommy</DIV>
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<DIV>On Apr 1, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Francis Hult <<A
href="mailto:francis.hult@englund.lu.se">francis.hult@englund.lu.se</A>>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN-TOP: 0px">The Guardian</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN-TOP: 0px">The online language learning
challenge</DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN-TOP: 0px"> </P>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN-TOP: 0px">The Guardian wants to find
out if it is possible to learn a language only using online tools. Over the
next six weeks, three writers will each try to learn a language using a piece
of language-learning technology.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN-TOP: 0px">Full story:<BR><A
href="http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/feb/21/can-i-learn-a-language-online">http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/feb/21/can-i-learn-a-language-online</A></DIV></DIV>_______________________________________________<BR>Edling
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