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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Although the discussion
has moved on to other drugs, a friend of a friend of mine did
actually try the pill alleged to improve language learning skills
and said it helped on the very short term (if I remember
correctly).<br>
Nancy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/4/14, 4:43 PM, Larry Selinker
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<div class="gmail_default"><b>funny stuff. i was at u mich
when some of it was going on ("we had a bunch of drunks in
our lab for a year, and ...". </b></div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><b>one thing i remember was that a
group of grad students were supporting themselves out of
these grants, so there was some value in the effort. </b></div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><b>there were later studies using
other drugs, weed for sure was one. one of the grad
students at the time who took part in the later studies
was BILL ACTON, now in vancouver and maybe the world's
best expert at pronunciation changes (and non-changes) in
L2 pronunciation. if anyone is serious about this, i
suggest you privately contact </b><b>him: </b><span
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<b>i'm ccing this to him to give him a heads up.</b></span></div>
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i always thought the reports of what went on were great
fun.</b></span></div>
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Cheers, <br>
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Larry<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Daryl
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<div>Thanks for sharing the original article! That
study is almost folklore in applied linguistics, but
I'd never seen the original article. I was chuckling
at imagining all those U Michigan college students
signing up for this study!<br>
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PM, Elizabeth Scheyder <span dir="ltr"><<a
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I remember reading that in Rod Ellis’ “Second
Language Acquisition”, and my students always
find it amusing (as an anecdote, not a classroom
practice!)<br>
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Here’s Guiora’s article:<br>
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YMMV,<br>
Elizabeth<br>
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Instructional Technology Project Leader<br>
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On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:31 AM, anne marie
devlin <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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> Dear Dick<br>
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> Don't know anything about the pill, but
there was a study carried out in the early
1970s by Guiora (I think) that highlighted
the benefits of alcohol to SLA.<br>
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> Reminds me of the Ogden Nash poem:<br>
> Candy is dandy<br>
> But liquor is quicker<br>
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> All the best<br>
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> Anne Marie<br>
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> > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 13:35:35
+0100<br>
> > From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">r.hudson@ucl.ac.uk</a><br>
> > To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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> > Subject: [Edling] A pill for
learning Chinese?<br>
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> > Dear Colleague,<br>
> > Anyone know about this suggestion
that drugs can help language-learning?<br>
> ><br>
> > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.britac.ac.uk/events/2014/Are_drugs_the_answer_to_learning_a_language.cfm"
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> ><br>
> > Dick<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Richard Hudson (<a
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href="http://dickhudson.com"
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Professor, University of Pennsylvania
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