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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Elizabeth,<br>
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this was it, I think -- now that I remember, the friend actually
took it to learn perfect pitch, but then our conversation spilled
over into the conjectures about language learning.<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.npr.org/2014/01/04/259552442/want-perfect-pitch-you-could-pop-a-pill-for-that">http://www.npr.org/2014/01/04/259552442/want-perfect-pitch-you-could-pop-a-pill-for-that</a><br>
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Nancy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/4/14, 8:36 PM, Elizabeth Scheyder
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<pre wrap="">What medication was it?
Elizabeth
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On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Nancy Hornberger <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nancyh@gse.upenn.edu"><nancyh@gse.upenn.edu></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Although the discussion has moved on to other drugs, a friend of a friend of mine did actually try the pill alleged to improve language learning skills and said it helped on the very short term (if I remember correctly).
Nancy
On 6/4/14, 4:43 PM, Larry Selinker wrote:
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<pre wrap="">funny stuff. i was at u mich when some of it was going on ("we had a bunch of drunks in our lab for a year, and ...".
one thing i remember was that a group of grad students were supporting themselves out of these grants, so there was some value in the effort.
there were later studies using other drugs, weed for sure was one. one of the grad students at the time who took part in the later studies was BILL ACTON, now in vancouver and maybe the world's best expert at pronunciation changes (and non-changes) in L2 pronunciation. if anyone is serious about this, i suggest you privately contact him: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:william.acton@twu.ca">william.acton@twu.ca</a>. i'm ccing this to him to give him a heads up.
anyways, i always thought the reports of what went on were great fun.
Best,
Cheers,
Larry
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On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Daryl Gordon <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dgordon@adelphi.edu"><dgordon@adelphi.edu></a> wrote:
Thanks for sharing the original article! That study is almost folklore in applied linguistics, but I'd never seen the original article. I was chuckling at imagining all those U Michigan college students signing up for this study!
Daryl
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Elizabeth Scheyder <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:scheydec@sas.upenn.edu"><scheydec@sas.upenn.edu></a> wrote:
Yes, I remember reading that in Rod Ellis’ “Second Language Acquisition”, and my students always find it amusing (as an anecdote, not a classroom practice!)
Here’s Guiora’s article:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/34041/0000318.pdf?sequence=1">http://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/34041/0000318.pdf?sequence=1</a>
YMMV,
Elizabeth
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On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:31 AM, anne marie devlin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:anne_mariedevlin@hotmail.com"><anne_mariedevlin@hotmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Dear Dick
Don't know anything about the pill, but there was a study carried out in the early 1970s by Guiora (I think) that highlighted the benefits of alcohol to SLA.
Reminds me of the Ogden Nash poem:
Candy is dandy
But liquor is quicker
All the best
Anne Marie
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:r.hudson@ucl.ac.uk">r.hudson@ucl.ac.uk</a>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:edling@bunner.geol.lu.se">edling@bunner.geol.lu.se</a>
Subject: [Edling] A pill for learning Chinese?
Dear Colleague,
Anyone know about this suggestion that drugs can help language-learning?
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.britac.ac.uk/events/2014/Are_drugs_the_answer_to_learning_a_language.cfm">http://www.britac.ac.uk/events/2014/Are_drugs_the_answer_to_learning_a_language.cfm</a>
Dick
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