<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>thank you so much, peter, for sharing this info on AAAL and the debates there. </b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b><br></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>notice how many goals and purposes are out there. if this concept is hard to pin down,then what are people applying and why?</b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b><br></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>So, we can</b><b> agree that "translanguaging" is being used in a number of different ways that may not be compatible? </b><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important">if so, this must mean that there is no one unique "<b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><span 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</div></div></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important">why is the concept popular? </div></div></b><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important">will this last? or, will it become the flavor of the day?</div></div></b></div></div></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important"><br></div></div></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important">so, for that not to happen, then some things are necessary:</div></div></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important">1. whenever it is used, that person must say what they mean by the concept.</div></div></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important">2. look for commonalities in all the variants.</div></div></b></div></div></b><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important">3. and, of course, distinguishing features of the variant approaches.</div></div></b></div></div></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important"><br></div></div></b></div></div></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important">basically, </div></div></b></div></div></b><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important">trying to pin it down, let me suggest some common characteristics; please tell me if these make sense and feel free to add:</div></div></b></div></div></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important">- - all the variant approaches </div></div></b></div></div></b><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important">are interested in linguistic <b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important">practices as opposed to linguistic systems</div></div></b></div></div></b></div></div><div><b><div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important">- - all the variant approaches thus g</div></div></b></div></div></b><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><b><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important">o for dynamism as opposed to static linguistic systems.</div></div></b></div></div></b></div></div></b></div></b></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><b><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="display:inline!important"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline!important"><br></div></div></b></div></div></b></div></div></b></div></b></div></b></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">so, what has come before is too static for the various goals. all that work cannot be totally useless. what is being drawn upon from prior work to cover all these dynamic contexts? </div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">well, let's try to get some clarity.</div><br></div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><div><b><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></b></div>Best, <br><br>Cheers, <br><br>Larry<br><br>Larry Selinker</font></b><div><b style="font-size:12.6667px"><u><font color="#0000ff"><a href="mailto:ls110@nyu.edu" target="_blank">ls110@nyu.edu</a></font></u></b><div><div><b><a href="http://www.researchproductionassociates.com/" target="_blank"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" 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<div>At AAAL in Florida a few weeks ago there were at least 3 symposia dealing with multilingualism in the classroom, many from a translanguaging perspective, which followed several symposia and papers from last year’s conference on translanguaging, and including
a lively debate about the differences between code-switching and translanguaging framework. To answer the “many ways” part of Larry’s comment: the translanguaging work has included looking at bilingual K-12 classrooms, but also heritage language schools,
higher education settings, academic second language writing, as well as looking at it from an interactional perspective of what students in classroom do to negotiate academic content, from the teacher’s perspective of how she more effectively draws on students’
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>> </b><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Anne Marie mentions the concept is being used in many ways recently,</span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span></div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>i did see a message from <span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Anne Marie but did not see mention of these "many ways". i must confess i have had trouble getting a clear idea
of this concept from the vast and growing literature. </span></b><b><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px">i would really like to know what are the many ways that the concept is being used, either from Peter or </span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Anne
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I'll forward them to the teacher.<br>
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<div>Ofelia Garcia’s (2009) <i>Bilingual Education in the 21 Century</i> is a good comprehensive text and has a clear explanation of translanguaging, though as Anne Marie mentions the concept is being used in many ways recently, and also harkens back to earlier
bilingual approaches to bilingual ed such as Jacobson’s (1980s) “New Concurrent” approach which advocated the teacher’s use of purposeful and strategic language mixing. </div>
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<div>About the positioning of above-below vs. side-to-side: I’m not aware of any work on this specific aspect of language positioning, but would say from a (1) linguistic perspective, it makes good sense to put a particular sentence in one language above another
so that students can more clearly see how syntactic and lexical elements line up. However, from a (2) language valorization perspective, the problem the observer may have had was not above-below per se, but rather that English was positioned ABOVE Spanish,
which may be seen as implicitly reinforcing the subordinate position of the minoritized language. In that case, positioning the languages side by side represents them on more equal footing (or even use above/below, but put Spanish on top). Or maybe the observer
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<div>I'm not at my desk and don't have access to references at the moment, but a google search should bring up some interesting findings to support your colleagues approach.</div>
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A grad of one of our programs is a bilingual (Spanish) social studies teacher in New York City, with 11 years of teaching experience.<br>
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The teacher received a super-critical review of a class observation from somebody outside the school who observed a single lesson. The observer knew nothing in advance about the teacher's curriculum or approach; there had been no communication with the teacher
in advance of the observation. After having written a scathing observation report, the observer refused to have a conversation with the teacher, who sought politely to explain their perspective and try to understand better the nature of the critique.<br>
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The teacher has requested input on one issue in particular:<br>
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At the top of the lesson, the teacher had written a guiding question in English with the Spanish version directly underneath.<br>
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The teacher, as I understand it, sought to have the students first try to understand the text in English, then read it in Spanish, and using all linguistic resources make meaning out of the question. (And ultimately, the students will be tested in English.)<br>
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One of the many criticisms in the observation report was that the English and Spanish versions should have appeared side by side rather than one above the other. The teacher is perplexed.<br>
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While the teacher's explanation makes sense to me, I have been asked whether there is any objective guidance available from the research on best practices to advocate for EITHER of the 2 approaches (2 languages side by side versus one above the other).
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Thank you in advance for sharing your perspective. I'll pass it on.<br>
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