From eprime at step.psy.cmu.edu Wed Mar 1 10:03:36 2000 From: eprime at step.psy.cmu.edu (Eprime) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 05:03:36 -0500 Subject: Monthly Help File Message-ID: WELCOME TO THE EPRIME MAILING LIST!! This list is open to all users of E-Prime or researchers interested in considering use of E-Prime. It is maintained by Brian MacWhinney in the Department of Psychology at Carnegie Mellon University. Development and support of this list is funded by grant 9972437 from the Division of Undergraduate Education of the National Science Foundation. An archive of this list is maintained by Anthony Aristar's Linguist List system at http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/eprime.html Thanks to Anthony for providing us with this additional facilitiy. The list is not maintained by Psychology Software Tools, the developers of E-Prime. It is an independent forum open to the general community of researchers in Experimental Psychology and related fields. However, employees of PST are encouraged to participate fully in the discussions on this list.#000# We hope that this list will help people understand the use of E-Prime, gain access to specific implementations of experiments, and share ideas regarding the use of E-Prime and related methods in teaching Experimental Psychology. Although the focus of the list is on the use of E-Prime, discussion of other experiment generation systems is occasionally appropriate. However, this discussion should be focused not on product comparison, but on assessment of alternative methods of creating experiments and teaching experimental methods. The list is maintained by Brian MacWhinney (macw at cmu.edu). Other materials related to the interests of the list can be accessed at http://step.psy.cmu.edu which is the server for the proposed System for the Teaching of Experimental Psychology (STEP). Because this list is not moderated, it is important that people exercise self-restraint in posting. 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Until then. --Brian MacWhinney From jeffs at pstnet.com Wed Mar 22 23:32:37 2000 From: jeffs at pstnet.com (Jeff Szuhay) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:32:37 -0500 Subject: test Message-ID: sent to listserver and directly to Brian Macwhinney. -- ************************************************* Jeff Szuhay Lead Macintosh Engineer voice: 412/271-5040 x 227 Psychology Software Tools From jeffs at pstnet.com Thu Mar 23 16:44:34 2000 From: jeffs at pstnet.com (Jeff Szuhay) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:44:34 -0500 Subject: test passed Message-ID: please delete this (no need to respond). Listserver is now operational again. Looking forward to hearing from you all. 8-) -- ************************************************* Jeff Szuhay Lead Macintosh Engineer voice: 412/271-5040 x 227 Psychology Software Tools From theosteger at di.mdacc.tmc.edu Thu Mar 23 19:33:54 2000 From: theosteger at di.mdacc.tmc.edu (Theodore Steger) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:33:54 -0600 Subject: PST Serial Response Box Message-ID: I'm trying to connect a four button response box to the E-Prime system. I was trying to connect the output of the response box in such a way as to mimic the output of the PST Response Box. Does anyone know which pins on the ports are read by E-Prime for the Response Box input? Thanks for your help. Ted Steger From Tony.Zuccolotto at pstnet.com Thu Mar 23 20:41:52 2000 From: Tony.Zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Anthony Zuccolotto) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:41:52 -0500 Subject: PST Serial Response Box Message-ID: Hi Ted, I would recommend using the PST Serial Response Box and just wiring your switches to the expansion port of the box. There are instructions in the SRBOX manual outlining how to do this. If the idea is to not use a PST SRBOX then you are likely to have more success going through something like the parallel port and then using the ReadPort command in E-Basic to poll the port for changes in the bits. When you see a change call the Clock.Read command to get the current time. Assuming you take this approach you will also have to remember to call c.SetAttrib as needed to get your dependent measures into the context so it gets logged in your data file, e.g. if you do your own data collection you also have to do your own scoring, feedback, and logging. If you just expand out the PST SRBOX then all the logging and scoring is done for you in E-Prime. Hope that helps, Anthony Zuccolotto Sr. Software Engineer Psychology Software Tools, Inc. Disclaimer: All views expressed are my own and do not necessary reflect the views or policies of Psychology Software Tools, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Theodore Steger [mailto:theosteger at di.mdacc.tmc.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 2:34 PM To: eprime at step.psy.cmu.edu Subject: PST Serial Response Box I'm trying to connect a four button response box to the E-Prime system. I was trying to connect the output of the response box in such a way as to mimic the output of the PST Response Box. Does anyone know which pins on the ports are read by E-Prime for the Response Box input? Thanks for your help. Ted Steger From eprime at step.psy.cmu.edu Wed Mar 1 10:03:36 2000 From: eprime at step.psy.cmu.edu (Eprime) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 05:03:36 -0500 Subject: Monthly Help File Message-ID: WELCOME TO THE EPRIME MAILING LIST!! This list is open to all users of E-Prime or researchers interested in considering use of E-Prime. It is maintained by Brian MacWhinney in the Department of Psychology at Carnegie Mellon University. Development and support of this list is funded by grant 9972437 from the Division of Undergraduate Education of the National Science Foundation. An archive of this list is maintained by Anthony Aristar's Linguist List system at http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/eprime.html Thanks to Anthony for providing us with this additional facilitiy. The list is not maintained by Psychology Software Tools, the developers of E-Prime. It is an independent forum open to the general community of researchers in Experimental Psychology and related fields. However, employees of PST are encouraged to participate fully in the discussions on this list.#000# We hope that this list will help people understand the use of E-Prime, gain access to specific implementations of experiments, and share ideas regarding the use of E-Prime and related methods in teaching Experimental Psychology. Although the focus of the list is on the use of E-Prime, discussion of other experiment generation systems is occasionally appropriate. However, this discussion should be focused not on product comparison, but on assessment of alternative methods of creating experiments and teaching experimental methods. The list is maintained by Brian MacWhinney (macw at cmu.edu). Other materials related to the interests of the list can be accessed at http://step.psy.cmu.edu which is the server for the proposed System for the Teaching of Experimental Psychology (STEP). Because this list is not moderated, it is important that people exercise self-restraint in posting. In particular, it is not appropriate to post commercial messages or to use the list for discussion of subjects that do not relate to experimental psychology. Please read the list guidelines (see above) before engaging in discussion. In addition, familiarize yourself with how the list operates, especially if you've never participated in an Internet email discussion group before. It's a good idea to save this message somewhere so you know how to unsubscribe. QUICK INSTRUCTIONS To subscribe, send a message to eprime at step.psy.cmu.edu with the subject "subscribe"#000# To remove yourself from the list, send a message to eprime at step.psy.cmu.edu with subject "unsubscribe" To post a message for everyone else to see, send a message to eprime at step.psy.cmu.edu To get a single digest each day, send a message to eprime at step.psy.cmu.edu with subject "subscribe digest" To get a list of detailed instructions, send a message to eprime at step.psy.cmu.edu with subject "help" DETAILED INSTRUCTIONS When dealing with an automated list manager, there are two types of messages: COMMANDS and POSTS. Unlike traditional list software which require the use of numerous email addresses, we have simplified the process by allowing for both COMMANDS and POSTS to be sent to the SAME address. The following commands are accepted: --- Subscribe To add yourself to the list, send a message to the list address with subject "Subscribe". Your name will be added to the list of subscribers. You will receive all posts and be allowed to post from that address. This is also used to turn OFF digests and receive posts as a regular subscriber. --- Unsubscribe To remove yourself from the list (regular or digest), send a message to the list address with subject "Unsubscribe". Your name will be removed from the list of subscribers. You will no longer receive any posts or digests, and will not be allowed to post from that address. --- Subscribe Digest To get a single digest each day, rather than receive all of the messages individually, send a message to the list address with subject "Subscribe Digest". Your address will be removed from the regular subscriber list (if appropriate) and added to the digest list. To switch back, send a "Subscribe" command again. --- Digests To retrieve a listing of archived digests available for retrieval, send a message to the list address with subject "Digests". You will receive a list of available files as well as instructions for retrieving them via e-mail. --- Help To retrieve a current copy of this help file, send a message to the list address with subject "Help". POSTING TO THE LIST Email messages which don't match any commands are distributed to everyone on the list. Every time you post a message, hundreds of other people on the list receive a copy, just as if you sent it to them personally. As a member of the list, you will receive a copy of every message anyone else sends. On this list, only members of the list can post to it. CONTACTING A HUMAN If you have problems using these commands, you should contact Brian MacWhinney at macw at cmu.edu From ks7t at andrew.cmu.edu Thu Mar 16 17:42:59 2000 From: ks7t at andrew.cmu.edu (Kelley Sacco) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:42:59 -0500 Subject: test post Message-ID: Test post From macw at cmu.edu Wed Mar 22 00:55:13 2000 From: macw at cmu.edu (Brian MacWhinney) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:55:13 -0500 Subject: ListStar problems Message-ID: Dear E-Prime List, It appears that one of the rules in the ListStar rule file that maintains the E-Prime mailing list has become corrupted. Strangely enough, the list allows people at CMU to post to the list, but rejects mail from outside CMU. I am trying to fix the problem, but it is difficult to debug because I can't myself trigger the error. I will keep on working on this. Until we can get this kink out, the list is still not actually functional. Hopefully, I will be able to figure this out in a day or two. Until then. --Brian MacWhinney From jeffs at pstnet.com Wed Mar 22 23:32:37 2000 From: jeffs at pstnet.com (Jeff Szuhay) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:32:37 -0500 Subject: test Message-ID: sent to listserver and directly to Brian Macwhinney. -- ************************************************* Jeff Szuhay Lead Macintosh Engineer voice: 412/271-5040 x 227 Psychology Software Tools From jeffs at pstnet.com Thu Mar 23 16:44:34 2000 From: jeffs at pstnet.com (Jeff Szuhay) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:44:34 -0500 Subject: test passed Message-ID: please delete this (no need to respond). Listserver is now operational again. Looking forward to hearing from you all. 8-) -- ************************************************* Jeff Szuhay Lead Macintosh Engineer voice: 412/271-5040 x 227 Psychology Software Tools From theosteger at di.mdacc.tmc.edu Thu Mar 23 19:33:54 2000 From: theosteger at di.mdacc.tmc.edu (Theodore Steger) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:33:54 -0600 Subject: PST Serial Response Box Message-ID: I'm trying to connect a four button response box to the E-Prime system. I was trying to connect the output of the response box in such a way as to mimic the output of the PST Response Box. Does anyone know which pins on the ports are read by E-Prime for the Response Box input? Thanks for your help. Ted Steger From Tony.Zuccolotto at pstnet.com Thu Mar 23 20:41:52 2000 From: Tony.Zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Anthony Zuccolotto) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:41:52 -0500 Subject: PST Serial Response Box Message-ID: Hi Ted, I would recommend using the PST Serial Response Box and just wiring your switches to the expansion port of the box. There are instructions in the SRBOX manual outlining how to do this. If the idea is to not use a PST SRBOX then you are likely to have more success going through something like the parallel port and then using the ReadPort command in E-Basic to poll the port for changes in the bits. When you see a change call the Clock.Read command to get the current time. Assuming you take this approach you will also have to remember to call c.SetAttrib as needed to get your dependent measures into the context so it gets logged in your data file, e.g. if you do your own data collection you also have to do your own scoring, feedback, and logging. If you just expand out the PST SRBOX then all the logging and scoring is done for you in E-Prime. Hope that helps, Anthony Zuccolotto Sr. Software Engineer Psychology Software Tools, Inc. Disclaimer: All views expressed are my own and do not necessary reflect the views or policies of Psychology Software Tools, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Theodore Steger [mailto:theosteger at di.mdacc.tmc.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 2:34 PM To: eprime at step.psy.cmu.edu Subject: PST Serial Response Box I'm trying to connect a four button response box to the E-Prime system. I was trying to connect the output of the response box in such a way as to mimic the output of the PST Response Box. Does anyone know which pins on the ports are read by E-Prime for the Response Box input? Thanks for your help. Ted Steger