From mac13 at psu.edu Tue Jun 19 14:41:41 2001 From: mac13 at psu.edu (Mark A. Casteel) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:41:41 -0400 Subject: Presenting different legnth texts Message-ID: I realize that this is probably a fairly simple question for those of you who have used eprime extensively, but I'll ask anyway. How do I go about presenting a series of stories to my subjects, where the stories are not a uniform length? For instance, I want to present stories ranging from 11-15 lines each, followed by a question after each story. In the past when I've used eprime, it's been simple because the stories have all been a constant length and I simply used a series of TextDisplays for each sentence (Sentence1, Sentence2, Sentence3, etc.). Now, however, with a different number of lines per story, I can't do this. What are your suggestions for an efficient way to accomplish this task? Thanks in advance! -- Mark Casteel ********************************* Mark A. Casteel, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Psychology Penn State York 1031 Edgecomb Ave. York, PA 17403 (717) 771-4028 ********************************* From anthonyc at psych.rochester.edu Tue Jun 19 17:56:18 2001 From: anthonyc at psych.rochester.edu (Anthony Capobianco) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:56:18 -0400 Subject: Presenting different length texts In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010619103758.00c5c410@email.psu.edu> Message-ID: Mark, I suggest you use a single text display, and create a list object for each story (you could also do one for all the stories, but that would be a bit more complicated). Each entry in the list object is a line of the story and it reuses the text display to run that procedure for each one. E-Prime will log results separately for each trial. Hope this helps. Anthony --+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-- Anthony Capobianco, B.S. Clinical & Social Sciences in Psychology, University of Rochester anthonyc at psych.rochester.edu 450 Meliora Hall v.716.275.1078 f.716.273.1100 --+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-- ~~ Birthdays are good for you - the more you have the longer you live ~~ > -----Original Message----- > From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org]On > Behalf Of Mark A. Casteel > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:42 AM > To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: Presenting different legnth texts > > > I realize that this is probably a fairly simple question for those of you > who have used eprime extensively, but I'll ask anyway. How do I go about > presenting a series of stories to my subjects, where the stories > are not a > uniform length? For instance, I want to present stories ranging > from 11-15 > lines each, followed by a question after each story. In the past > when I've > used eprime, it's been simple because the stories have all been a > constant > length and I simply used a series of TextDisplays for each sentence > (Sentence1, Sentence2, Sentence3, etc.). Now, however, with a different > number of lines per story, I can't do this. What are your suggestions for > an efficient way to accomplish this task? Thanks in advance! -- > Mark Casteel > > ********************************* > Mark A. Casteel, Ph.D. > Associate Professor of Psychology > Penn State York > 1031 Edgecomb Ave. > York, PA 17403 > (717) 771-4028 > ********************************* > > > From mac13 at psu.edu Wed Jun 20 14:48:03 2001 From: mac13 at psu.edu (Mark A. Casteel) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:48:03 -0400 Subject: Presenting different length texts Message-ID: I thought I'd respond back to the list and tell folks who are interested one potential way to solve the problem of presenting stories with different numbers of sentences. First, let me thank all those folks who responded to my plea for help and offered assistance: Edward Carney, Natasha Tokowicz, Richard Anderson, and Anthony Capobianco. Here was the problem: Some stories might be only 12 sentences long while other stories might be 14 sentences long. One idea that seemed fairly easy to implement was simply to include a variable in the stories List object that tells E-Prime the durations of sentence 13 and sentence 14. Since some stories will have actual sentences for these variables, the values of the duration variable (e.g., Sen13dur; Sen14dur) for those stories would be set to -1 (i.e., wait for subject input). In the duration dialogue box for both sentence 13 and sentence 14, the value would then be set to [Sen13dur] or [Sen14dur], respectively. For those stories that are shorter, and don't contain a sentence 13 or 14, the values of the Sen13dur and Sen14dur variables would be set to 0. Now keep in mind that E-Prime will actually log nonsense values under the reaction times for sentence 13 and sentence 14, and these bogus values are not easy to pick out. Therefore, make sure the data for the Sen13dur and Sen14dur variables get logged by E-Prime. You can use the values of 0 in these variables as flags that the RTs for those sentences should be discounted in any data analysis. I hope this makes sense and is helpful to those of you who had similar questions. Thanks again to those of you who helped me out. -- Mark ********************************* Mark A. Casteel, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Psychology Penn State York 1031 Edgecomb Ave. York, PA 17403 (717) 771-4028 ********************************* From mac13 at psu.edu Tue Jun 19 14:41:41 2001 From: mac13 at psu.edu (Mark A. Casteel) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:41:41 -0400 Subject: Presenting different legnth texts Message-ID: I realize that this is probably a fairly simple question for those of you who have used eprime extensively, but I'll ask anyway. How do I go about presenting a series of stories to my subjects, where the stories are not a uniform length? For instance, I want to present stories ranging from 11-15 lines each, followed by a question after each story. In the past when I've used eprime, it's been simple because the stories have all been a constant length and I simply used a series of TextDisplays for each sentence (Sentence1, Sentence2, Sentence3, etc.). Now, however, with a different number of lines per story, I can't do this. What are your suggestions for an efficient way to accomplish this task? Thanks in advance! -- Mark Casteel ********************************* Mark A. Casteel, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Psychology Penn State York 1031 Edgecomb Ave. York, PA 17403 (717) 771-4028 ********************************* From anthonyc at psych.rochester.edu Tue Jun 19 17:56:18 2001 From: anthonyc at psych.rochester.edu (Anthony Capobianco) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:56:18 -0400 Subject: Presenting different length texts In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010619103758.00c5c410@email.psu.edu> Message-ID: Mark, I suggest you use a single text display, and create a list object for each story (you could also do one for all the stories, but that would be a bit more complicated). Each entry in the list object is a line of the story and it reuses the text display to run that procedure for each one. E-Prime will log results separately for each trial. Hope this helps. Anthony --+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-- Anthony Capobianco, B.S. Clinical & Social Sciences in Psychology, University of Rochester anthonyc at psych.rochester.edu 450 Meliora Hall v.716.275.1078 f.716.273.1100 --+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-- ~~ Birthdays are good for you - the more you have the longer you live ~~ > -----Original Message----- > From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org]On > Behalf Of Mark A. Casteel > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:42 AM > To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: Presenting different legnth texts > > > I realize that this is probably a fairly simple question for those of you > who have used eprime extensively, but I'll ask anyway. How do I go about > presenting a series of stories to my subjects, where the stories > are not a > uniform length? For instance, I want to present stories ranging > from 11-15 > lines each, followed by a question after each story. In the past > when I've > used eprime, it's been simple because the stories have all been a > constant > length and I simply used a series of TextDisplays for each sentence > (Sentence1, Sentence2, Sentence3, etc.). Now, however, with a different > number of lines per story, I can't do this. What are your suggestions for > an efficient way to accomplish this task? Thanks in advance! -- > Mark Casteel > > ********************************* > Mark A. Casteel, Ph.D. > Associate Professor of Psychology > Penn State York > 1031 Edgecomb Ave. > York, PA 17403 > (717) 771-4028 > ********************************* > > > From mac13 at psu.edu Wed Jun 20 14:48:03 2001 From: mac13 at psu.edu (Mark A. Casteel) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:48:03 -0400 Subject: Presenting different length texts Message-ID: I thought I'd respond back to the list and tell folks who are interested one potential way to solve the problem of presenting stories with different numbers of sentences. First, let me thank all those folks who responded to my plea for help and offered assistance: Edward Carney, Natasha Tokowicz, Richard Anderson, and Anthony Capobianco. Here was the problem: Some stories might be only 12 sentences long while other stories might be 14 sentences long. One idea that seemed fairly easy to implement was simply to include a variable in the stories List object that tells E-Prime the durations of sentence 13 and sentence 14. Since some stories will have actual sentences for these variables, the values of the duration variable (e.g., Sen13dur; Sen14dur) for those stories would be set to -1 (i.e., wait for subject input). In the duration dialogue box for both sentence 13 and sentence 14, the value would then be set to [Sen13dur] or [Sen14dur], respectively. For those stories that are shorter, and don't contain a sentence 13 or 14, the values of the Sen13dur and Sen14dur variables would be set to 0. Now keep in mind that E-Prime will actually log nonsense values under the reaction times for sentence 13 and sentence 14, and these bogus values are not easy to pick out. Therefore, make sure the data for the Sen13dur and Sen14dur variables get logged by E-Prime. You can use the values of 0 in these variables as flags that the RTs for those sentences should be discounted in any data analysis. I hope this makes sense and is helpful to those of you who had similar questions. Thanks again to those of you who helped me out. -- Mark ********************************* Mark A. Casteel, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Psychology Penn State York 1031 Edgecomb Ave. York, PA 17403 (717) 771-4028 *********************************