From Jenny.Thomson at psyka.jyu.fi Fri Mar 1 11:26:44 2002 From: Jenny.Thomson at psyka.jyu.fi (Jenny Thomson) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 13:26:44 +0200 Subject: Sound files Message-ID: We are trying to create an experiment involving the presentation of long strings of sound stimuli. We have a series of sound files, which on other experiment control programmes have been easily made to sound like a continuous stream when specified to play in succession. With E-prime however, we always seem to get slight gaps between stimuli or 'crackles' at the transitions, despite trying things like specifying a pre-release time and varying different parameters within the Sound Object' properties. Has anyone got any ideas on what would help in this instance, to create the perception of a continuous and smooth sound stream? Thanks, Jenny Thomson Dept. of Psychology, University of Jyväskylä, FINLAND From mhsohn at andrew.cmu.edu Mon Mar 4 22:36:58 2002 From: mhsohn at andrew.cmu.edu (Myeong-Ho Sohn) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:36:58 -0500 Subject: timing question Message-ID: Dear E-Prime users: I have a question that everybody I talked to thought was pretty easy to solve but none of them actually has the solution. So, I decided to post here. Here's what I want. I like to present a stimulus, let's say at most for 1000 ms. If a response is made before 1000 ms, the stimulus disappears as soon as the response is made. If a response is not made before 1000 ms, the stimulus disappears anyway at 1000 ms, and the program waits until the response is made. I played with several options in the duration/input properties, but I don't seem to be able to find the right combination. This is a very basic problem so there's got to be an easy way to do this but I just can not figure out. If anybody knows a way to solve this, that'd be great. By the way, I am using Beta 5.0 if that matters. Thanks. mh From randers at bgnet.bgsu.edu Tue Mar 5 00:36:34 2002 From: randers at bgnet.bgsu.edu (randers at bgnet.bgsu.edu) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 19:36:34 -0500 Subject: timing question Message-ID: My guess is that you would need two consecutive text/image displays: The 1st would measure RT when it's less than 1000 ms; the second would measure RT when RT is greater than 1000 ms. However, this might be a dangerous proposition since the subject might occasionally respond at the moment when the first display object is terminating and the second display object is initiating. Perhaps such a response would fail to be recorded. -- Best regards, Richard Anderson From dennis at inst.augie.edu Mon Mar 11 16:35:11 2002 From: dennis at inst.augie.edu (Martin Dennis) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:35:11 -0600 Subject: simultaneous presentation of images and sounds? Message-ID: Dear E-Prime users: We are trying to present simultaneous images or simultaneous sounds: e.g. put up one image selected on one set of attributes, and at the same time put up another image selected on a different set of attributes. Is there any way in E-Prime to do this? I know in PsyScope one was able to set the onset of two stimuli to zero msec after the offset of a third, yielding simultaneous presentation. Is there any comparable procedure in E-Prime? Also, will preloading two stimuli be an issue? Thanks in advance, Marty Dennis From anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Mon Mar 11 22:22:43 2002 From: anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Tony Zuccolotto) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:22:43 -0500 Subject: simultaneous presentation of images and sounds? Message-ID: Marty, You can present combination of sounds, images, or text simultaneously using the Slide object. This object assembles all images offscreen and then copies the final bitmap to the screen all at once at the specified onset time (as well as launches any sound playback at that time). Each item on the slide can vary independently. Thanks, Tony > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Dennis [mailto:dennis at inst.augie.edu] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:35 AM > To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: simultaneous presentation of images and sounds? > > > Dear E-Prime users: > > We are trying to present simultaneous images or simultaneous sounds: > e.g. put up one image selected on one set of attributes, and at the > same time put up another image selected on a different set of > attributes. Is there any way in E-Prime to do this? > > I know in PsyScope one was able to set the onset of two stimuli to > zero msec after the offset of a third, yielding simultaneous > presentation. Is there any comparable procedure in E-Prime? > > Also, will preloading two stimuli be an issue? > > Thanks in advance, > Marty Dennis > > From amunn at msu.edu Mon Mar 11 23:38:29 2002 From: amunn at msu.edu (Alan Munn) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:38:29 -0500 Subject: E-prime and Chinese Message-ID: Hello, does anyone have any experience using e-prime with a Chinese system. Is is possible? We are doing some work on Chinese language processing and would like to be able to display chinese characters without first turning each sentence into a graphics file. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Alan Munn -- Alan Munn amunn at msu.edu Department of Linguistics amunn at acm.org and Germanic, Slavic, Asian and African Languages Fax. +1-517-432-2736 Michigan State University, East Lansing MI 48824 Tel. +1-517-355-7491 From ed315 at netvigator.com Tue Mar 12 02:12:51 2002 From: ed315 at netvigator.com (ed315 at netvigator.com) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:12:51 +0800 Subject: simultaneous presentation of images and sounds? Message-ID: Dear all, I managed to use the Slide object to present two images and two sounds at the same time, however, the two sound files were presented at the same time. Can I make them play one at a time? Thank you Karen > Marty, > > You can present combination of sounds, images, or text simultaneously > using the Slide object. This object assembles all images offscreen and > then copies the final bitmap to the screen all at once at the specified > onset time (as well as launches any sound playback at that time). Each > item on the slide can vary independently. > > Thanks, > Tony > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Dennis [mailto:dennis at inst.augie.edu] > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:35 AM > > To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > > Subject: simultaneous presentation of images and sounds? > > > > > > Dear E-Prime users: > > > > We are trying to present simultaneous images or simultaneous sounds: > > e.g. put up one image selected on one set of attributes, and at the > > same time put up another image selected on a different set of > > attributes. Is there any way in E-Prime to do this? > > > > I know in PsyScope one was able to set the onset of two stimuli to > > zero msec after the offset of a third, yielding simultaneous > > presentation. Is there any comparable procedure in E-Prime? > > > > Also, will preloading two stimuli be an issue? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Marty Dennis > > > > > From fukush9 at dolphin.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp Tue Mar 12 02:35:43 2002 From: fukush9 at dolphin.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Hirokata Fukushima) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:35:43 +0900 Subject: E-prime and Chinese In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:38:29 JST." Message-ID: Dear Alan, > Hello, does anyone have any experience using e-prime with a Chinese > system. Is is possible? My suggestion is that after you compile and make an ebs file, open that ebs file and find the .fontname property of the TextDisplay object which you want to display Chinese character, and re-write it into some Chinese font. We have tried it in Japanese font (just for fun :-)) and succeeded. Best regards, Hirokata FUKUSHIMA ------------------ Dept. of General Systems Studies, Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, Univ. of Tokyo c/o Prof. Kazuo Hiraki 3-8-1 Komaba, Meguro-ku, Tokyo 153-8902, JAPAN Tel: +81-3-5454-6449 Fax: +81-3-5454-6845 E-Mail: fukush9 at dolphin.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp ------------------ From anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Tue Mar 12 14:08:11 2002 From: anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Tony Zuccolotto) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:08:11 -0500 Subject: simultaneous presentation of images and sounds? Message-ID: Karen, To play a second sound in sequence I would try following up the Slide with a SoundOut object. Let the Slide play the first sound and the SoundOut object play the second one. Regards, Tony > -----Original Message----- > From: ed315 at netvigator.com [mailto:ed315 at netvigator.com] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:13 PM > To: Tony Zuccolotto; eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: Re: simultaneous presentation of images and sounds? > > > Dear all, > > I managed to use the Slide object to present two images and > two sounds at > the same time, however, the two sound files were presented at > the same time. > Can I make them play one at a time? > > Thank you > Karen > > > > Marty, > > > > You can present combination of sounds, images, or text > simultaneously > > using the Slide object. This object assembles all images > offscreen and > > then copies the final bitmap to the screen all at once at > the specified > > onset time (as well as launches any sound playback at that > time). Each > > item on the slide can vary independently. > > > > Thanks, > > Tony > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Martin Dennis [mailto:dennis at inst.augie.edu] > > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:35 AM > > > To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > > > Subject: simultaneous presentation of images and sounds? > > > > > > > > > Dear E-Prime users: > > > > > > We are trying to present simultaneous images or > simultaneous sounds: > > > e.g. put up one image selected on one set of attributes, > and at the > > > same time put up another image selected on a different set of > > > attributes. Is there any way in E-Prime to do this? > > > > > > I know in PsyScope one was able to set the onset of two > stimuli to > > > zero msec after the offset of a third, yielding simultaneous > > > presentation. Is there any comparable procedure in E-Prime? > > > > > > Also, will preloading two stimuli be an issue? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Marty Dennis > > > > > > > > > From Btomlow at chdr.nl Wed Mar 13 09:28:51 2002 From: Btomlow at chdr.nl (Benjamin Tomlow) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:28:51 +0100 Subject: question about E-prime Message-ID: Can somebody tell me if it is possible to vary the place the answer line begins? My question line starts almost completely to the left and my answer bar starts in the middle. If i align it to the left the whole page moves. Sincerely Ben Tomlow Benjamin Tomlow E-mail: BTomlow at chdr.nl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philippe.pinel at laposte.net Wed Mar 13 11:37:01 2002 From: philippe.pinel at laposte.net (philippe.pinel) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:37:01 +0100 Subject: rebound problem Message-ID: Hi, I have a specific question about 'rebound' using response button during a protocol. Indeed, when a subject gives a response pressing a button, some mechanical rebound inside the button are sometimes also considered by e-prime as button press ! In consequence, signal of this rebound is recorded as the subject’s response of the next trial. Does anyone know if there is any parameters (in the response object properties (slide, textdisplay) or in devices properties, for instance) useful to avoid this problem ? Thank you very much ! Philippe Pinel philippe.pinel at laposte.net SHFJ, Orsay, France "Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,13 €/mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34€/mn)" From R.Edmunds at open.ac.uk Thu Mar 14 13:11:40 2002 From: R.Edmunds at open.ac.uk (R.Edmunds at open.ac.uk) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 13:11:40 -0000 Subject: Signal out of range Message-ID: Hi Has anyone had this display problem. When running an experiment, monitor goes bank apart from a 'signal out of range' message' ? Rob Department of Psychology Faculty of Social Sciences The Open University, Walton Hall Milton Keynes, MK7 6AA Direct Line: (01908) 659904 Home email is RobandSue at edmunds32.demon.co.uk From anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Thu Mar 14 13:32:57 2002 From: anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Tony Zuccolotto) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 08:32:57 -0500 Subject: Signal out of range Message-ID: Rob, Perhaps check the resolution and color depth used on the Display device within the experiment and make sure your monitor can handle it, e.g. E-Prime will switch the video mode as requested if it differs from your desktop mode. This message from a monitor typically indicates it can't handle the resolution, color depth or refresh rate that E-Prime had switched to. Tony *** DISCLAIMER: VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER *** Anthony P. Zuccolotto Vice President of Operations Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 Phone 412-271-5040 FAX 412-271-7077 Email anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Internet http://www.pstnet.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: R.Edmunds at open.ac.uk [mailto:R.Edmunds at open.ac.uk] > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:12 AM > To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: Signal out of range > > > Hi > > Has anyone had this display problem. When running an > experiment, monitor > goes bank apart from a 'signal out of range' message' ? > > Rob > > > Department of Psychology > Faculty of Social Sciences > The Open University, Walton Hall > Milton Keynes, MK7 6AA > Direct Line: (01908) 659904 > > Home email is RobandSue at edmunds32.demon.co.uk > > > > From claudia.waldmann at vuw.ac.nz Mon Mar 18 01:27:34 2002 From: claudia.waldmann at vuw.ac.nz (claudia) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 13:27:34 +1200 Subject: parallel port input Message-ID: Greetings Instead of using input from the keyboard or mouse, I want to use input from the parallel port. I have found where to specify the properties for this input device, and would like to know now, what I have to programme, so that I can have two different response keys. Thanks for anyone's thoughts, Claudia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Btomlow at chdr.nl Mon Mar 18 09:58:24 2002 From: Btomlow at chdr.nl (Benjamin Tomlow) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:58:24 +0100 Subject: alignment Message-ID: Can somebody tell me if it is possible to vary the place the answer line begins? My question line starts almost completely to the left and my answer bar starts in the middle. If i align it to the left the whole page moves. Sincerely Ben Tomlow Benjamin Tomlow E-mail: BTomlow at chdr.nl From amy.eschman at pstnet.com Mon Mar 18 14:12:54 2002 From: amy.eschman at pstnet.com (Amy Eschman) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:12:54 -0500 Subject: timing question Message-ID: Dear Myeong-Ho. This can be accomplished using a Label object, and the "Jump" option for the End Action field in the object collecting input. You should set the Duration for the object collecting the input to 1000 ms, with the Time Limit set to the maximum amount of time you want to allow for a response, and the End Action set to "Jump." Then, you will need to create a second object (i.e., a blank TextDisplay) to clear the stimulus from the screen after the 1000 msec has expired and allow additional time for a response. This blank TextDisplay does not enable input, you simply need to specify a Duration for it to wait for a response. Finally, place a Label object in the Procedure immediately following the blank TextDisplay. The name of the Label object is entered into the Jump Label field for the object collecting input. Using the "Jump" End Action in combination with the Label object will allow you to present the blank TextDisplay if and only if no response comes in during the display of the stimulus, and to terminate the display of the stimulus upon response. There is an example of this implementation in the Download/Samples area at the E-Prime support site (www.pstnet.com/e-prime/support). The sample (Clear Stimulus-Leave More Time for Response) illustrates two methods. One clears the stimulus upon response, and the other maintains the display duration of the stimulus (e.g., displays the stimulus for 1000 msec regardless of when the response came in). You will need to upgrade to v1.0 to view this sample. I hope this is helpful. Amy Eschman Manager, Technical Support *** DISCLAIMER: VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER *** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit our Web Site for the latest info: http://www.pstnet.com E-mail: info at pstnet.com Voice: (412) 271-5040 Fax: (412) 271-7077 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: Myeong-Ho Sohn [mailto:mhsohn at andrew.cmu.edu] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 5:37 PM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: timing question Dear E-Prime users: I have a question that everybody I talked to thought was pretty easy to solve but none of them actually has the solution. So, I decided to post here. Here's what I want. I like to present a stimulus, let's say at most for 1000 ms. If a response is made before 1000 ms, the stimulus disappears as soon as the response is made. If a response is not made before 1000 ms, the stimulus disappears anyway at 1000 ms, and the program waits until the response is made. I played with several options in the duration/input properties, but I don't seem to be able to find the right combination. This is a very basic problem so there's got to be an easy way to do this but I just can not figure out. If anybody knows a way to solve this, that'd be great. By the way, I am using Beta 5.0 if that matters. Thanks. mh From amy.eschman at pstnet.com Mon Mar 18 14:53:45 2002 From: amy.eschman at pstnet.com (Amy Eschman) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:53:45 -0500 Subject: alignment Message-ID: Dear Ben, >From your posting, it sounds as if you are accepting string input and echoing input to the screen. The placement of the echo area can be set using the Echo tab in the Advanced Properties for the Keyboard. On the Duration/Input tab of the object collecting input, click the Advanced button, then select the Echo tab. This will list the devices available for echo. Double click the Display device in the list to edit its properties. In the Display Echo Properties dialog, you can edit the X, Y, Width and Height properties to set the size and location for the echoing of the string input. This is different from the Frame tab, which sets the properties for the entire display area. For example, if you set the Frame Height and Width to 50%, set the X and Y properties to Left and Top respectively, and set the XAlign and YAlign properties to center, your display (including the echo area) would use the top left corner of your display as the anchor position and center the entire display area on that position (i.e., you would only see the bottom right part of the display). So, if you have the display set up as you like and you are only trying to position the echo of the string input, you should use the Display Echo Properties dialog as described above. Amy Eschman Manager, Technical Support *** DISCLAIMER: VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER *** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit our Web Site for the latest info: http://www.pstnet.com E-mail: info at pstnet.com Voice: (412) 271-5040 Fax: (412) 271-7077 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Tomlow [mailto:Btomlow at chdr.nl] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 4:58 AM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: alignment Can somebody tell me if it is possible to vary the place the answer line begins? My question line starts almost completely to the left and my answer bar starts in the middle. If i align it to the left the whole page moves. Sincerely Ben Tomlow Benjamin Tomlow E-mail: BTomlow at chdr.nl From hhzainab at hotmail.com Mon Mar 18 16:18:46 2002 From: hhzainab at hotmail.com (zainab h.hussein) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:18:46 +0000 Subject: support Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Mon Mar 18 16:49:07 2002 From: anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Tony Zuccolotto) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:49:07 -0500 Subject: rebound problem Message-ID: Philippe, Assuming you are using a PortDevice for input there is no automatic ignoring or filtering of debounce signals. However you can do that in script and log only those responses that you consider real, e.g. look in the E-Basic Help under "InputMask.Responses (property)" for an example of how to get at the raw response data. You can then write script to examine the RT or RTTime properties and likewise ignore responses that arrived within N msec of each other. To log the ones you want you would basically just use c.SetAttrib to put them in the context and then call c.Log yourself to force a logging of the current contents of the context. Hope that helps, Tony *** DISCLAIMER: VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER *** Anthony P. Zuccolotto Vice President of Operations Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 Phone 412-271-5040 FAX 412-271-7077 Email anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Internet http://www.pstnet.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: philippe.pinel [mailto:philippe.pinel at laposte.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:37 AM > To: E-Prime > Subject: rebound problem > > > Hi, > > I have a specific question about 'rebound' using response > button during a protocol. Indeed, when a subject gives a > response pressing a button, some mechanical rebound inside the > button are sometimes also considered by e-prime as button > press ! In consequence, signal of this rebound is recorded as > the subject’s response of the next trial. Does anyone know if > there is any parameters (in the response object properties > (slide, textdisplay) or in devices properties, for instance) > useful to avoid this problem ? > > Thank you very much ! > > Philippe Pinel > philippe.pinel at laposte.net > SHFJ, Orsay, France > > > "Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : > www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,13 EUR/mn) ; tél : 08 92 > 68 13 50 (0,34EUR/mn)" > > > > From philippe.pinel at laposte.net Wed Mar 20 15:50:12 2002 From: philippe.pinel at laposte.net (philippe.pinel) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:50:12 +0100 Subject: pin and parallel port Message-ID: Hello, I have a basic question concerning input received from parrallel port. I have connected my response buttons and a MRI camera to my computer using the parallel port. My computer received pulses from the MRI and also key presses from the buttons. But in my system, polarity of MRI pulses and button signal are opposite. Then, I would like to control directly the state of each pins during all the experiment. How could I do that ? I have seen there is a ReadPort command. The address of my port is H379. Could any one give me some indication (or part of script) to solve this problem ? Thank you in advance philippe pinel "Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,13 €/mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34€/mn)" From hhzainab at hotmail.com Wed Mar 20 17:27:55 2002 From: hhzainab at hotmail.com (zainab h.hussein) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:27:55 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hhzainab at hotmail.com Wed Mar 20 17:28:59 2002 From: hhzainab at hotmail.com (zainab h.hussein) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:28:59 +0000 Subject: request Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Btomlow at chdr.nl Mon Mar 25 11:56:06 2002 From: Btomlow at chdr.nl (Benjamin Tomlow) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:56:06 +0100 Subject: alignment Message-ID: I would be very gratefull if anybody could help me with the following problem: - The test starts at the same allignment but is it possible to keep the allignment (during the page) the same between the question and the answer line. I'll skedge the procedure for you. There are 18 symbols presented next to eachother like: ! @ # $ % ^ & * ( & ^ $ % & * ^ & * The person must combine these symbols with certain digits (0-9) but is it possible to keep these symbol and digit combinations aligned beneath aechother. Thanks in advance and hope to hear from you soon. Sincerely, Benjamin Tomlow E-mail: BTomlow at chdr.nl From anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Mon Mar 25 13:05:39 2002 From: anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Tony Zuccolotto) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:05:39 -0500 Subject: alignment Message-ID: Benjamin, I'm not sure if I understand exactly what you are trying to do, but when it comes to aligning characters on a character by character basis, in general you will have better success if you switch everything to use a non-proportional font, e.g. Courier or Courier New. Regards, Tony *** DISCLAIMER: VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER *** Anthony P. Zuccolotto Vice President of Operations Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 Phone 412-271-5040 FAX 412-271-7077 Email anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Internet http://www.pstnet.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Benjamin Tomlow [mailto:Btomlow at chdr.nl] > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 6:56 AM > To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: alignment > > > I would be very gratefull if anybody could help me with the > following problem: > - The test starts at the same allignment but is it possible > to keep the allignment (during the page) the same between the > question and the answer line. > > I'll skedge the procedure for you. There are 18 symbols > presented next to eachother like: > ! @ # $ % ^ & * ( & ^ $ % & * ^ & * The person must combine > these symbols with certain digits (0-9) but is it possible to > keep these symbol and digit combinations aligned beneath > aechother. Thanks in advance and hope to hear from you soon. > > Sincerely, > > > > Benjamin Tomlow > E-mail: BTomlow at chdr.nl > > > > From der_kommissar_73 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 25 15:20:17 2002 From: der_kommissar_73 at yahoo.com (Jonathan Pettibone) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 07:20:17 -0800 Subject: echo function help Message-ID: Hello, I'm looking for help with the echo property of input collection. specifically, I'm having participants make ratings of objects on a 1 to 9 scale, and I want to echo their rating back to them before moving on to the next trial. If I set input to take only one number, then echo displays nothing on the screen and moves on to the next trial. I tried inserting a wait procedure after the display procedure, thinking that it was just updating the screen too quickly after the trial, but no dice. Then I tried setting the input to take two characters, and having participants hit return to register their judgment. When I do this, echo will display the first number typed, but not a second. This also raises lots of problems because now participants can hit return twice and never enter a judgment, or can hit a number twice and make an impossible judgment. Am I doing something wrong, or is echo not designed to display a single character? Thanks. Jonathan Pettibone ===== ------------------------------------- Jonathan C. Pettibone Assistant Professor Department of Psychology, UAH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards� http://movies.yahoo.com/ From seif1301 at uni-trier.de Mon Mar 25 16:31:53 2002 From: seif1301 at uni-trier.de (Jan Seifert) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:31:53 +0100 Subject: echo function help In-Reply-To: <20020325152017.92120.qmail@web10902.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You could insert another display object with transparent background, that does the feedback. >Hello, I'm looking for help with the echo property of input collection. >specifically, I'm having participants make ratings of objects on a 1 to 9 >scale, and I want to echo their rating back to them before moving on to the >next trial. If I set input to take only one number, then echo displays nothing >on the screen and moves on to the next trial. I tried inserting a wait >procedure after the display procedure, thinking that it was just updating the >screen too quickly after the trial, but no dice. Then I tried setting the >input to take two characters, and having participants hit return to register >their judgment. When I do this, echo will display the first number typed, but >not a second. This also raises lots of problems because now participants can >hit return twice and never enter a judgment, or can hit a number twice and make >an impossible judgment. Am I doing something wrong, or is echo not designed to >display a single character? / \ Jan Seifert \ FB I - Psychologie \ \ Universit�t Trier \ Universit�tsring 15 \ 54286 Trier \ \ Phone: +49 (0)651 201-2896 \ E-Mail: seif1301 at uni-trier.de / From der_kommissar_73 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 26 23:06:00 2002 From: der_kommissar_73 at yahoo.com (Jonathan Pettibone) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:06:00 -0800 Subject: Gender data Message-ID: Here's another one for the list. I'm using the built in dialog to gather information about the sex of my participants. When I try to get that information out from eDataAid however, it can't seem to handle it because its a string rather than numeric data. Any method I use results in a value of N/A. How do I get that information out of my data in e-data aid, without manually typing it in for each participant? There must be a way. ===== ------------------------------------- Jonathan C. Pettibone Assistant Professor Department of Psychology, UAH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards� http://movies.yahoo.com/ From der_kommissar_73 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 27 04:47:33 2002 From: der_kommissar_73 at yahoo.com (Jonathan Pettibone) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 20:47:33 -0800 Subject: Gender data In-Reply-To: <1017200915.smmsdV1.1.0@smtp.bgsu.edu> Message-ID: Sorry, "it" is the table function of e-data aid. I think the problem is that edata aid cannot handle string variables, or there is another way to do it that I'm missing. I'm using the table function to put the data in a format to export into SPSS, i.e. one subject per row, variables in colums. The table function wants to treat sex as a numeric variable, which it is not. I guess what I need is someone who has actually used the sex startup data function to tell me how they managed to get the data out at the end. If all else fails, I'll just create a new startup dialog where subjects use 1 for female and 2 for male. Jonathan Pettibone @p ===== ------------------------------------- Jonathan C. Pettibone Assistant Professor Department of Psychology, UAH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards� http://movies.yahoo.com/ From anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Wed Mar 27 13:19:22 2002 From: anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Tony Zuccolotto) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:19:22 -0500 Subject: Gender data Message-ID: Johnathan, I just tried this and it sounds like you might be trying to list Sex under the Data: section. I think what you need to do on the Analyze dialog in E-DataAid is to list all the independent variables in the Rows: section and then list the dependent variables under the Data: section and leave the Columns: section empty. I tried this with data from BasicRT data, e.g. Rows: Subject Session Sex Data: Stimulus.RT:Mean Stimulus.ACC:Mean When exported as StatView/SPSS I got the following in the tab delimited exported file: Subject Session Sex Mean Stimulus.ACC Mean Stimulus.RT 1 1 male 0.50 250.00 2 1 female 0.75 522.75 Is that consistent with what you want? Regards, Tony *** DISCLAIMER: VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER *** Anthony P. Zuccolotto Vice President of Operations Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 Phone 412-271-5040 FAX 412-271-7077 Email anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Internet http://www.pstnet.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Pettibone [mailto:der_kommissar_73 at yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:48 PM > To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: Re: Gender data > > > Sorry, "it" is the table function of e-data aid. I think > the problem is that > edata aid cannot handle string variables, or there is another > way to do it that > I'm missing. I'm using the table function to put the data in > a format to > export into SPSS, i.e. one subject per row, variables in > colums. The table > function wants to treat sex as a numeric variable, which it is not. > > I guess what I need is someone who has actually used the sex > startup data > function to tell me how they managed to get the data out at > the end. If all > else fails, I'll just create a new startup dialog where > subjects use 1 for > female and 2 for male. > > Jonathan Pettibone > > > > @p > > > ===== > ------------------------------------- > Jonathan C. Pettibone > Assistant Professor > Department of Psychology, UAH > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® > http://movies.yahoo.com/ > > From Jenny.Thomson at psyka.jyu.fi Fri Mar 1 11:26:44 2002 From: Jenny.Thomson at psyka.jyu.fi (Jenny Thomson) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 13:26:44 +0200 Subject: Sound files Message-ID: We are trying to create an experiment involving the presentation of long strings of sound stimuli. We have a series of sound files, which on other experiment control programmes have been easily made to sound like a continuous stream when specified to play in succession. With E-prime however, we always seem to get slight gaps between stimuli or 'crackles' at the transitions, despite trying things like specifying a pre-release time and varying different parameters within the Sound Object' properties. Has anyone got any ideas on what would help in this instance, to create the perception of a continuous and smooth sound stream? Thanks, Jenny Thomson Dept. of Psychology, University of Jyv?skyl?, FINLAND From mhsohn at andrew.cmu.edu Mon Mar 4 22:36:58 2002 From: mhsohn at andrew.cmu.edu (Myeong-Ho Sohn) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:36:58 -0500 Subject: timing question Message-ID: Dear E-Prime users: I have a question that everybody I talked to thought was pretty easy to solve but none of them actually has the solution. So, I decided to post here. Here's what I want. I like to present a stimulus, let's say at most for 1000 ms. If a response is made before 1000 ms, the stimulus disappears as soon as the response is made. If a response is not made before 1000 ms, the stimulus disappears anyway at 1000 ms, and the program waits until the response is made. I played with several options in the duration/input properties, but I don't seem to be able to find the right combination. This is a very basic problem so there's got to be an easy way to do this but I just can not figure out. If anybody knows a way to solve this, that'd be great. By the way, I am using Beta 5.0 if that matters. Thanks. mh From randers at bgnet.bgsu.edu Tue Mar 5 00:36:34 2002 From: randers at bgnet.bgsu.edu (randers at bgnet.bgsu.edu) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 19:36:34 -0500 Subject: timing question Message-ID: My guess is that you would need two consecutive text/image displays: The 1st would measure RT when it's less than 1000 ms; the second would measure RT when RT is greater than 1000 ms. However, this might be a dangerous proposition since the subject might occasionally respond at the moment when the first display object is terminating and the second display object is initiating. Perhaps such a response would fail to be recorded. -- Best regards, Richard Anderson From dennis at inst.augie.edu Mon Mar 11 16:35:11 2002 From: dennis at inst.augie.edu (Martin Dennis) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:35:11 -0600 Subject: simultaneous presentation of images and sounds? Message-ID: Dear E-Prime users: We are trying to present simultaneous images or simultaneous sounds: e.g. put up one image selected on one set of attributes, and at the same time put up another image selected on a different set of attributes. Is there any way in E-Prime to do this? I know in PsyScope one was able to set the onset of two stimuli to zero msec after the offset of a third, yielding simultaneous presentation. Is there any comparable procedure in E-Prime? Also, will preloading two stimuli be an issue? Thanks in advance, Marty Dennis From anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Mon Mar 11 22:22:43 2002 From: anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Tony Zuccolotto) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:22:43 -0500 Subject: simultaneous presentation of images and sounds? Message-ID: Marty, You can present combination of sounds, images, or text simultaneously using the Slide object. This object assembles all images offscreen and then copies the final bitmap to the screen all at once at the specified onset time (as well as launches any sound playback at that time). Each item on the slide can vary independently. Thanks, Tony > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Dennis [mailto:dennis at inst.augie.edu] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:35 AM > To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: simultaneous presentation of images and sounds? > > > Dear E-Prime users: > > We are trying to present simultaneous images or simultaneous sounds: > e.g. put up one image selected on one set of attributes, and at the > same time put up another image selected on a different set of > attributes. Is there any way in E-Prime to do this? > > I know in PsyScope one was able to set the onset of two stimuli to > zero msec after the offset of a third, yielding simultaneous > presentation. Is there any comparable procedure in E-Prime? > > Also, will preloading two stimuli be an issue? > > Thanks in advance, > Marty Dennis > > From amunn at msu.edu Mon Mar 11 23:38:29 2002 From: amunn at msu.edu (Alan Munn) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:38:29 -0500 Subject: E-prime and Chinese Message-ID: Hello, does anyone have any experience using e-prime with a Chinese system. Is is possible? We are doing some work on Chinese language processing and would like to be able to display chinese characters without first turning each sentence into a graphics file. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Alan Munn -- Alan Munn amunn at msu.edu Department of Linguistics amunn at acm.org and Germanic, Slavic, Asian and African Languages Fax. +1-517-432-2736 Michigan State University, East Lansing MI 48824 Tel. +1-517-355-7491 From ed315 at netvigator.com Tue Mar 12 02:12:51 2002 From: ed315 at netvigator.com (ed315 at netvigator.com) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:12:51 +0800 Subject: simultaneous presentation of images and sounds? Message-ID: Dear all, I managed to use the Slide object to present two images and two sounds at the same time, however, the two sound files were presented at the same time. Can I make them play one at a time? Thank you Karen > Marty, > > You can present combination of sounds, images, or text simultaneously > using the Slide object. This object assembles all images offscreen and > then copies the final bitmap to the screen all at once at the specified > onset time (as well as launches any sound playback at that time). Each > item on the slide can vary independently. > > Thanks, > Tony > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Dennis [mailto:dennis at inst.augie.edu] > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:35 AM > > To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > > Subject: simultaneous presentation of images and sounds? > > > > > > Dear E-Prime users: > > > > We are trying to present simultaneous images or simultaneous sounds: > > e.g. put up one image selected on one set of attributes, and at the > > same time put up another image selected on a different set of > > attributes. Is there any way in E-Prime to do this? > > > > I know in PsyScope one was able to set the onset of two stimuli to > > zero msec after the offset of a third, yielding simultaneous > > presentation. Is there any comparable procedure in E-Prime? > > > > Also, will preloading two stimuli be an issue? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Marty Dennis > > > > > From fukush9 at dolphin.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp Tue Mar 12 02:35:43 2002 From: fukush9 at dolphin.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Hirokata Fukushima) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:35:43 +0900 Subject: E-prime and Chinese In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:38:29 JST." Message-ID: Dear Alan, > Hello, does anyone have any experience using e-prime with a Chinese > system. Is is possible? My suggestion is that after you compile and make an ebs file, open that ebs file and find the .fontname property of the TextDisplay object which you want to display Chinese character, and re-write it into some Chinese font. We have tried it in Japanese font (just for fun :-)) and succeeded. Best regards, Hirokata FUKUSHIMA ------------------ Dept. of General Systems Studies, Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, Univ. of Tokyo c/o Prof. Kazuo Hiraki 3-8-1 Komaba, Meguro-ku, Tokyo 153-8902, JAPAN Tel: +81-3-5454-6449 Fax: +81-3-5454-6845 E-Mail: fukush9 at dolphin.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp ------------------ From anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Tue Mar 12 14:08:11 2002 From: anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Tony Zuccolotto) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:08:11 -0500 Subject: simultaneous presentation of images and sounds? Message-ID: Karen, To play a second sound in sequence I would try following up the Slide with a SoundOut object. Let the Slide play the first sound and the SoundOut object play the second one. Regards, Tony > -----Original Message----- > From: ed315 at netvigator.com [mailto:ed315 at netvigator.com] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:13 PM > To: Tony Zuccolotto; eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: Re: simultaneous presentation of images and sounds? > > > Dear all, > > I managed to use the Slide object to present two images and > two sounds at > the same time, however, the two sound files were presented at > the same time. > Can I make them play one at a time? > > Thank you > Karen > > > > Marty, > > > > You can present combination of sounds, images, or text > simultaneously > > using the Slide object. This object assembles all images > offscreen and > > then copies the final bitmap to the screen all at once at > the specified > > onset time (as well as launches any sound playback at that > time). Each > > item on the slide can vary independently. > > > > Thanks, > > Tony > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Martin Dennis [mailto:dennis at inst.augie.edu] > > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:35 AM > > > To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > > > Subject: simultaneous presentation of images and sounds? > > > > > > > > > Dear E-Prime users: > > > > > > We are trying to present simultaneous images or > simultaneous sounds: > > > e.g. put up one image selected on one set of attributes, > and at the > > > same time put up another image selected on a different set of > > > attributes. Is there any way in E-Prime to do this? > > > > > > I know in PsyScope one was able to set the onset of two > stimuli to > > > zero msec after the offset of a third, yielding simultaneous > > > presentation. Is there any comparable procedure in E-Prime? > > > > > > Also, will preloading two stimuli be an issue? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Marty Dennis > > > > > > > > > From Btomlow at chdr.nl Wed Mar 13 09:28:51 2002 From: Btomlow at chdr.nl (Benjamin Tomlow) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:28:51 +0100 Subject: question about E-prime Message-ID: Can somebody tell me if it is possible to vary the place the answer line begins? My question line starts almost completely to the left and my answer bar starts in the middle. If i align it to the left the whole page moves. Sincerely Ben Tomlow Benjamin Tomlow E-mail: BTomlow at chdr.nl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philippe.pinel at laposte.net Wed Mar 13 11:37:01 2002 From: philippe.pinel at laposte.net (philippe.pinel) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:37:01 +0100 Subject: rebound problem Message-ID: Hi, I have a specific question about 'rebound' using response button during a protocol. Indeed, when a subject gives a response pressing a button, some mechanical rebound inside the button are sometimes also considered by e-prime as button press ! In consequence, signal of this rebound is recorded as the subject’s response of the next trial. Does anyone know if there is any parameters (in the response object properties (slide, textdisplay) or in devices properties, for instance) useful to avoid this problem ? Thank you very much ! Philippe Pinel philippe.pinel at laposte.net SHFJ, Orsay, France "Acc?dez au courrier ?lectronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,13 ?/mn) ; t?l : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34?/mn)" From R.Edmunds at open.ac.uk Thu Mar 14 13:11:40 2002 From: R.Edmunds at open.ac.uk (R.Edmunds at open.ac.uk) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 13:11:40 -0000 Subject: Signal out of range Message-ID: Hi Has anyone had this display problem. When running an experiment, monitor goes bank apart from a 'signal out of range' message' ? Rob Department of Psychology Faculty of Social Sciences The Open University, Walton Hall Milton Keynes, MK7 6AA Direct Line: (01908) 659904 Home email is RobandSue at edmunds32.demon.co.uk From anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Thu Mar 14 13:32:57 2002 From: anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Tony Zuccolotto) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 08:32:57 -0500 Subject: Signal out of range Message-ID: Rob, Perhaps check the resolution and color depth used on the Display device within the experiment and make sure your monitor can handle it, e.g. E-Prime will switch the video mode as requested if it differs from your desktop mode. This message from a monitor typically indicates it can't handle the resolution, color depth or refresh rate that E-Prime had switched to. Tony *** DISCLAIMER: VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER *** Anthony P. Zuccolotto Vice President of Operations Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 Phone 412-271-5040 FAX 412-271-7077 Email anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Internet http://www.pstnet.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: R.Edmunds at open.ac.uk [mailto:R.Edmunds at open.ac.uk] > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:12 AM > To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: Signal out of range > > > Hi > > Has anyone had this display problem. When running an > experiment, monitor > goes bank apart from a 'signal out of range' message' ? > > Rob > > > Department of Psychology > Faculty of Social Sciences > The Open University, Walton Hall > Milton Keynes, MK7 6AA > Direct Line: (01908) 659904 > > Home email is RobandSue at edmunds32.demon.co.uk > > > > From claudia.waldmann at vuw.ac.nz Mon Mar 18 01:27:34 2002 From: claudia.waldmann at vuw.ac.nz (claudia) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 13:27:34 +1200 Subject: parallel port input Message-ID: Greetings Instead of using input from the keyboard or mouse, I want to use input from the parallel port. I have found where to specify the properties for this input device, and would like to know now, what I have to programme, so that I can have two different response keys. Thanks for anyone's thoughts, Claudia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Btomlow at chdr.nl Mon Mar 18 09:58:24 2002 From: Btomlow at chdr.nl (Benjamin Tomlow) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:58:24 +0100 Subject: alignment Message-ID: Can somebody tell me if it is possible to vary the place the answer line begins? My question line starts almost completely to the left and my answer bar starts in the middle. If i align it to the left the whole page moves. Sincerely Ben Tomlow Benjamin Tomlow E-mail: BTomlow at chdr.nl From amy.eschman at pstnet.com Mon Mar 18 14:12:54 2002 From: amy.eschman at pstnet.com (Amy Eschman) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:12:54 -0500 Subject: timing question Message-ID: Dear Myeong-Ho. This can be accomplished using a Label object, and the "Jump" option for the End Action field in the object collecting input. You should set the Duration for the object collecting the input to 1000 ms, with the Time Limit set to the maximum amount of time you want to allow for a response, and the End Action set to "Jump." Then, you will need to create a second object (i.e., a blank TextDisplay) to clear the stimulus from the screen after the 1000 msec has expired and allow additional time for a response. This blank TextDisplay does not enable input, you simply need to specify a Duration for it to wait for a response. Finally, place a Label object in the Procedure immediately following the blank TextDisplay. The name of the Label object is entered into the Jump Label field for the object collecting input. Using the "Jump" End Action in combination with the Label object will allow you to present the blank TextDisplay if and only if no response comes in during the display of the stimulus, and to terminate the display of the stimulus upon response. There is an example of this implementation in the Download/Samples area at the E-Prime support site (www.pstnet.com/e-prime/support). The sample (Clear Stimulus-Leave More Time for Response) illustrates two methods. One clears the stimulus upon response, and the other maintains the display duration of the stimulus (e.g., displays the stimulus for 1000 msec regardless of when the response came in). You will need to upgrade to v1.0 to view this sample. I hope this is helpful. Amy Eschman Manager, Technical Support *** DISCLAIMER: VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER *** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit our Web Site for the latest info: http://www.pstnet.com E-mail: info at pstnet.com Voice: (412) 271-5040 Fax: (412) 271-7077 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: Myeong-Ho Sohn [mailto:mhsohn at andrew.cmu.edu] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 5:37 PM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: timing question Dear E-Prime users: I have a question that everybody I talked to thought was pretty easy to solve but none of them actually has the solution. So, I decided to post here. Here's what I want. I like to present a stimulus, let's say at most for 1000 ms. If a response is made before 1000 ms, the stimulus disappears as soon as the response is made. If a response is not made before 1000 ms, the stimulus disappears anyway at 1000 ms, and the program waits until the response is made. I played with several options in the duration/input properties, but I don't seem to be able to find the right combination. This is a very basic problem so there's got to be an easy way to do this but I just can not figure out. If anybody knows a way to solve this, that'd be great. By the way, I am using Beta 5.0 if that matters. Thanks. mh From amy.eschman at pstnet.com Mon Mar 18 14:53:45 2002 From: amy.eschman at pstnet.com (Amy Eschman) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:53:45 -0500 Subject: alignment Message-ID: Dear Ben, >From your posting, it sounds as if you are accepting string input and echoing input to the screen. The placement of the echo area can be set using the Echo tab in the Advanced Properties for the Keyboard. On the Duration/Input tab of the object collecting input, click the Advanced button, then select the Echo tab. This will list the devices available for echo. Double click the Display device in the list to edit its properties. In the Display Echo Properties dialog, you can edit the X, Y, Width and Height properties to set the size and location for the echoing of the string input. This is different from the Frame tab, which sets the properties for the entire display area. For example, if you set the Frame Height and Width to 50%, set the X and Y properties to Left and Top respectively, and set the XAlign and YAlign properties to center, your display (including the echo area) would use the top left corner of your display as the anchor position and center the entire display area on that position (i.e., you would only see the bottom right part of the display). So, if you have the display set up as you like and you are only trying to position the echo of the string input, you should use the Display Echo Properties dialog as described above. Amy Eschman Manager, Technical Support *** DISCLAIMER: VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER *** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit our Web Site for the latest info: http://www.pstnet.com E-mail: info at pstnet.com Voice: (412) 271-5040 Fax: (412) 271-7077 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Tomlow [mailto:Btomlow at chdr.nl] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 4:58 AM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: alignment Can somebody tell me if it is possible to vary the place the answer line begins? My question line starts almost completely to the left and my answer bar starts in the middle. If i align it to the left the whole page moves. Sincerely Ben Tomlow Benjamin Tomlow E-mail: BTomlow at chdr.nl From hhzainab at hotmail.com Mon Mar 18 16:18:46 2002 From: hhzainab at hotmail.com (zainab h.hussein) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:18:46 +0000 Subject: support Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Mon Mar 18 16:49:07 2002 From: anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Tony Zuccolotto) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:49:07 -0500 Subject: rebound problem Message-ID: Philippe, Assuming you are using a PortDevice for input there is no automatic ignoring or filtering of debounce signals. However you can do that in script and log only those responses that you consider real, e.g. look in the E-Basic Help under "InputMask.Responses (property)" for an example of how to get at the raw response data. You can then write script to examine the RT or RTTime properties and likewise ignore responses that arrived within N msec of each other. To log the ones you want you would basically just use c.SetAttrib to put them in the context and then call c.Log yourself to force a logging of the current contents of the context. Hope that helps, Tony *** DISCLAIMER: VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER *** Anthony P. Zuccolotto Vice President of Operations Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 Phone 412-271-5040 FAX 412-271-7077 Email anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Internet http://www.pstnet.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: philippe.pinel [mailto:philippe.pinel at laposte.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:37 AM > To: E-Prime > Subject: rebound problem > > > Hi, > > I have a specific question about 'rebound' using response > button during a protocol. Indeed, when a subject gives a > response pressing a button, some mechanical rebound inside the > button are sometimes also considered by e-prime as button > press ! In consequence, signal of this rebound is recorded as > the subject’s response of the next trial. Does anyone know if > there is any parameters (in the response object properties > (slide, textdisplay) or in devices properties, for instance) > useful to avoid this problem ? > > Thank you very much ! > > Philippe Pinel > philippe.pinel at laposte.net > SHFJ, Orsay, France > > > "Acc?dez au courrier ?lectronique de La Poste : > www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,13 EUR/mn) ; t?l : 08 92 > 68 13 50 (0,34EUR/mn)" > > > > From philippe.pinel at laposte.net Wed Mar 20 15:50:12 2002 From: philippe.pinel at laposte.net (philippe.pinel) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:50:12 +0100 Subject: pin and parallel port Message-ID: Hello, I have a basic question concerning input received from parrallel port. I have connected my response buttons and a MRI camera to my computer using the parallel port. My computer received pulses from the MRI and also key presses from the buttons. But in my system, polarity of MRI pulses and button signal are opposite. Then, I would like to control directly the state of each pins during all the experiment. How could I do that ? I have seen there is a ReadPort command. The address of my port is H379. Could any one give me some indication (or part of script) to solve this problem ? Thank you in advance philippe pinel "Acc?dez au courrier ?lectronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,13 ?/mn) ; t?l : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34?/mn)" From hhzainab at hotmail.com Wed Mar 20 17:27:55 2002 From: hhzainab at hotmail.com (zainab h.hussein) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:27:55 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hhzainab at hotmail.com Wed Mar 20 17:28:59 2002 From: hhzainab at hotmail.com (zainab h.hussein) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:28:59 +0000 Subject: request Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Btomlow at chdr.nl Mon Mar 25 11:56:06 2002 From: Btomlow at chdr.nl (Benjamin Tomlow) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:56:06 +0100 Subject: alignment Message-ID: I would be very gratefull if anybody could help me with the following problem: - The test starts at the same allignment but is it possible to keep the allignment (during the page) the same between the question and the answer line. I'll skedge the procedure for you. There are 18 symbols presented next to eachother like: ! @ # $ % ^ & * ( & ^ $ % & * ^ & * The person must combine these symbols with certain digits (0-9) but is it possible to keep these symbol and digit combinations aligned beneath aechother. Thanks in advance and hope to hear from you soon. Sincerely, Benjamin Tomlow E-mail: BTomlow at chdr.nl From anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Mon Mar 25 13:05:39 2002 From: anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Tony Zuccolotto) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:05:39 -0500 Subject: alignment Message-ID: Benjamin, I'm not sure if I understand exactly what you are trying to do, but when it comes to aligning characters on a character by character basis, in general you will have better success if you switch everything to use a non-proportional font, e.g. Courier or Courier New. Regards, Tony *** DISCLAIMER: VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER *** Anthony P. Zuccolotto Vice President of Operations Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 Phone 412-271-5040 FAX 412-271-7077 Email anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Internet http://www.pstnet.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Benjamin Tomlow [mailto:Btomlow at chdr.nl] > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 6:56 AM > To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: alignment > > > I would be very gratefull if anybody could help me with the > following problem: > - The test starts at the same allignment but is it possible > to keep the allignment (during the page) the same between the > question and the answer line. > > I'll skedge the procedure for you. There are 18 symbols > presented next to eachother like: > ! @ # $ % ^ & * ( & ^ $ % & * ^ & * The person must combine > these symbols with certain digits (0-9) but is it possible to > keep these symbol and digit combinations aligned beneath > aechother. Thanks in advance and hope to hear from you soon. > > Sincerely, > > > > Benjamin Tomlow > E-mail: BTomlow at chdr.nl > > > > From der_kommissar_73 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 25 15:20:17 2002 From: der_kommissar_73 at yahoo.com (Jonathan Pettibone) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 07:20:17 -0800 Subject: echo function help Message-ID: Hello, I'm looking for help with the echo property of input collection. specifically, I'm having participants make ratings of objects on a 1 to 9 scale, and I want to echo their rating back to them before moving on to the next trial. If I set input to take only one number, then echo displays nothing on the screen and moves on to the next trial. I tried inserting a wait procedure after the display procedure, thinking that it was just updating the screen too quickly after the trial, but no dice. Then I tried setting the input to take two characters, and having participants hit return to register their judgment. When I do this, echo will display the first number typed, but not a second. This also raises lots of problems because now participants can hit return twice and never enter a judgment, or can hit a number twice and make an impossible judgment. Am I doing something wrong, or is echo not designed to display a single character? Thanks. Jonathan Pettibone ===== ------------------------------------- Jonathan C. Pettibone Assistant Professor Department of Psychology, UAH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards? http://movies.yahoo.com/ From seif1301 at uni-trier.de Mon Mar 25 16:31:53 2002 From: seif1301 at uni-trier.de (Jan Seifert) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:31:53 +0100 Subject: echo function help In-Reply-To: <20020325152017.92120.qmail@web10902.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You could insert another display object with transparent background, that does the feedback. >Hello, I'm looking for help with the echo property of input collection. >specifically, I'm having participants make ratings of objects on a 1 to 9 >scale, and I want to echo their rating back to them before moving on to the >next trial. If I set input to take only one number, then echo displays nothing >on the screen and moves on to the next trial. I tried inserting a wait >procedure after the display procedure, thinking that it was just updating the >screen too quickly after the trial, but no dice. Then I tried setting the >input to take two characters, and having participants hit return to register >their judgment. When I do this, echo will display the first number typed, but >not a second. This also raises lots of problems because now participants can >hit return twice and never enter a judgment, or can hit a number twice and make >an impossible judgment. Am I doing something wrong, or is echo not designed to >display a single character? / \ Jan Seifert \ FB I - Psychologie \ \ Universit?t Trier \ Universit?tsring 15 \ 54286 Trier \ \ Phone: +49 (0)651 201-2896 \ E-Mail: seif1301 at uni-trier.de / From der_kommissar_73 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 26 23:06:00 2002 From: der_kommissar_73 at yahoo.com (Jonathan Pettibone) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:06:00 -0800 Subject: Gender data Message-ID: Here's another one for the list. I'm using the built in dialog to gather information about the sex of my participants. When I try to get that information out from eDataAid however, it can't seem to handle it because its a string rather than numeric data. Any method I use results in a value of N/A. How do I get that information out of my data in e-data aid, without manually typing it in for each participant? There must be a way. ===== ------------------------------------- Jonathan C. Pettibone Assistant Professor Department of Psychology, UAH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards? http://movies.yahoo.com/ From der_kommissar_73 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 27 04:47:33 2002 From: der_kommissar_73 at yahoo.com (Jonathan Pettibone) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 20:47:33 -0800 Subject: Gender data In-Reply-To: <1017200915.smmsdV1.1.0@smtp.bgsu.edu> Message-ID: Sorry, "it" is the table function of e-data aid. I think the problem is that edata aid cannot handle string variables, or there is another way to do it that I'm missing. I'm using the table function to put the data in a format to export into SPSS, i.e. one subject per row, variables in colums. The table function wants to treat sex as a numeric variable, which it is not. I guess what I need is someone who has actually used the sex startup data function to tell me how they managed to get the data out at the end. If all else fails, I'll just create a new startup dialog where subjects use 1 for female and 2 for male. Jonathan Pettibone @p ===== ------------------------------------- Jonathan C. Pettibone Assistant Professor Department of Psychology, UAH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards? http://movies.yahoo.com/ From anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Wed Mar 27 13:19:22 2002 From: anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Tony Zuccolotto) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:19:22 -0500 Subject: Gender data Message-ID: Johnathan, I just tried this and it sounds like you might be trying to list Sex under the Data: section. I think what you need to do on the Analyze dialog in E-DataAid is to list all the independent variables in the Rows: section and then list the dependent variables under the Data: section and leave the Columns: section empty. I tried this with data from BasicRT data, e.g. Rows: Subject Session Sex Data: Stimulus.RT:Mean Stimulus.ACC:Mean When exported as StatView/SPSS I got the following in the tab delimited exported file: Subject Session Sex Mean Stimulus.ACC Mean Stimulus.RT 1 1 male 0.50 250.00 2 1 female 0.75 522.75 Is that consistent with what you want? Regards, Tony *** DISCLAIMER: VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER *** Anthony P. Zuccolotto Vice President of Operations Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 Phone 412-271-5040 FAX 412-271-7077 Email anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Internet http://www.pstnet.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Pettibone [mailto:der_kommissar_73 at yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:48 PM > To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: Re: Gender data > > > Sorry, "it" is the table function of e-data aid. I think > the problem is that > edata aid cannot handle string variables, or there is another > way to do it that > I'm missing. I'm using the table function to put the data in > a format to > export into SPSS, i.e. one subject per row, variables in > colums. The table > function wants to treat sex as a numeric variable, which it is not. > > I guess what I need is someone who has actually used the sex > startup data > function to tell me how they managed to get the data out at > the end. If all > else fails, I'll just create a new startup dialog where > subjects use 1 for > female and 2 for male. > > Jonathan Pettibone > > > > @p > > > ===== > ------------------------------------- > Jonathan C. Pettibone > Assistant Professor > Department of Psychology, UAH > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards? > http://movies.yahoo.com/ > >