From dodane at isc.cnrs.fr Tue Jan 6 16:48:24 2004 From: dodane at isc.cnrs.fr (Christelle Dodane) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:48:24 +0100 Subject: Joystick and USB port Message-ID: Hello, We have a problem using a joystick in our experiment. The joystick is connected to a USB port.Once in "system", the game controller is located in USB, not in Sound, video and game controller. When we double click the Joystick controller, we can't find the resources in the properties. So where can we find it ? The second problem is probably related to the first one, we can't find Testgame.exe, and then can't run the MS Dos program. Thanks you for helping us, Christelle Dodane, Aurélie Bailly and Jocelyne Ventre-Dominey. From brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com Wed Jan 7 13:59:40 2004 From: brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com (Brandon Cernicky) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 05:59:40 -0800 Subject: serial output? Message-ID: Unfortunately, the use of a USB joystick is not currently suppported within E-Prime. Unless the USB joystick is direct memory accessable and mimics a standard game port joystick, there is no way to access the capabilities of the joystick. E-Prime currently supports access to the buttons on Joysticks that attach to the game port on the motherboard or sound card. Additional/Full support for joysticks is planned for a future version. -Brandon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brandon S. Cernicky Senior Software Engineer Psychology Software Tools Views expressed here may not be that of Psychology Software Tools __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus From alakshmanan at students.wisc.edu Thu Jan 8 01:01:54 2004 From: alakshmanan at students.wisc.edu (ANAND LAKSHMANAN) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 19:01:54 -0600 Subject: Eprime + Port presses/releases Message-ID: Hi all, Is there more documentation/ information available on how EPrime handles port communication collection modes i.e. Presses Only/Releases Only/ Presses and Releases? We have a serial port configured to collect "presses" (from a response box) but some times EPrime seems to alternate randomly between collection modes. Has anyone had such problems before? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, Anand Lakshmanan ----- Original Message ----- From: Brandon Cernicky Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2004 7:59 am Subject: RE: serial output? > Unfortunately, the use of a USB joystick is not > currently suppported within E-Prime. Unless the USB > joystick is direct memory accessable and mimics a > standard game port joystick, there is no way to access > the capabilities of the joystick. E-Prime currently > supports access to the buttons on Joysticks that > attach to the game port on the motherboard or sound > card. > > Additional/Full support for joysticks is planned for a > future version. > > -Brandon > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Brandon S. Cernicky > Senior Software Engineer > Psychology Software Tools > > Views expressed here may not be that of Psychology > Software Tools > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus > > From leisha at decisionresearch.org Thu Jan 8 16:47:02 2004 From: leisha at decisionresearch.org (leisha) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:47:02 -0800 Subject: Two conditions Message-ID: Hello E-Prime gurus, I want to run two conditions, one with evaluable and one with nonevaluable stimuli. If I have a block list with two items that each call a different list of stimuli, then set the selection to permutation based on subject number, will odd-numbered subjects get ID number 1 and even-numbered subjects get ID number 2 consistently? Your help is much appreciated. Leisha Wharfield Decision Research Eugene, Oregon, USA From amy.eschman at pstnet.com Thu Jan 8 18:03:26 2004 From: amy.eschman at pstnet.com (Amy Eschman) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:03:26 -0500 Subject: Two conditions Message-ID: Leisha, The Permutation method is more than you need to accomplish this sampling. If you want odd-numbered subjects to get one condition (out of two) and even-numbered subjects to get the other, you should use Counterbalance by Subject. Permutation takes all possible combinations of the conditions, then selects one of the possible combinations based on the Order By value and runs all conditions within that combination in sequential order. Hope this helps, Amy Eschman ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit our Web Site for the latest info: http://www.pstnet.com E-mail: info at pstnet.com Voice: (412) 271-5040 Fax: (412) 271-7077 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *** DISCLAIMER: ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF PSYCHOLOGY SOFTWARE TOOLS *** -----Original Message----- From: leisha [mailto:leisha at decisionresearch.org] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:47 AM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: Two conditions Hello E-Prime gurus, I want to run two conditions, one with evaluable and one with nonevaluable stimuli. If I have a block list with two items that each call a different list of stimuli, then set the selection to permutation based on subject number, will odd-numbered subjects get ID number 1 and even-numbered subjects get ID number 2 consistently? Your help is much appreciated. Leisha Wharfield Decision Research Eugene, Oregon, USA From K.Khan at warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 13 13:55:16 2004 From: K.Khan at warwick.ac.uk (Khalilah Khan) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:55:16 +0000 Subject: Sequential stimuli thats randomised Message-ID: Hello e-prime users I have a list of 144 stimuli that I wish to present. There are 12 images each in the 12 groups. I wish to run 12 images in sequential order but then wish to randomise the groups. How can I do this? Thank you for your help. Khalilah Khan IACS, Psychology University of Warwick Coventry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Tue Jan 13 14:11:01 2004 From: anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Tony Zuccolotto) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:11:01 -0500 Subject: Sequential stimuli thats randomized Message-ID: Khalilah, The easiest way to do this is probably to use Nested lists, e.g. create 1 List for each of your 12 groups that you want to present. You then have 12 entries on your Block level list that correspond one to each group. Create an attribute on the Block level list (e.g. "StimList") which contains the name of the list you want to use/associate with each group (e.g. List1, List2, List3, ..., List12). Then on the Trial level list specify [StimList] in the Nested column and set the Weight to 12. This setup will randomly choose a set of stimuli to use and then run 12 sequential trials using the chosen "StimList" to provide the trial stimuli. Take a look at the NestingRT example included as an E-Prime sample experiment to see how Nesting can be used. The main difference between that example and what you want to do is that the example has the names of the nested lists specified explicitly, whereas in your experiment you want to specify the name of the nested list as an attribute [StimList] Hope that helps, Tony *** DISCLAIMER: ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF PSYCHOLOGY SOFTWARE TOOLS *** Anthony P. Zuccolotto Vice President Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 Phone 412-271-5040 FAX 412-271-7077 Email anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Internet http://www.pstnet.com -----Original Message----- From: Khalilah Khan [mailto:K.Khan at warwick.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:55 AM To: < Subject: Sequential stimuli thats randomised Hello e-prime users I have a list of 144 stimuli that I wish to present. There are 12 images each in the 12 groups. I wish to run 12 images in sequential order but then wish to randomise the groups. How can I do this? Thank you for your help. Khalilah Khan IACS, Psychology University of Warwick Coventry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From baris at andrew.cmu.edu Tue Jan 13 16:28:56 2004 From: baris at andrew.cmu.edu (Sukru Baris Demiral) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:28:56 -0500 Subject: keyboard input RT In-Reply-To: <6D8910A1FAF7E347B5C617CDE86FF4CD7E585A@mercury.pstmail> Message-ID: Hi, do you know how we can measure the RT of a keypress (or RTs of all keypreses) during the collection of a string by using AskBox function. ( I want to measure each keypress RT not the final termination RT) As far as I know, if we use slide or text object to collect a response we can use KeyboardResponseData (or something like that) object and its RT and RESP properties can give us the RT of any input keypres. But I don't know on which object ASKBox function appears during runtime. Baris \ / ~ ~ ~ -()- _ ~ ~ / \ ) ) ) -- ) _ 0/_ \0_ = :*_0 \/\_ | = _`\<,_ / / \ =.(*)/_(*)__............................................"" " Maths is just a very funny construction " From anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Tue Jan 13 19:07:35 2004 From: anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Tony Zuccolotto) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:07:35 -0500 Subject: keyboard input RT Message-ID: Baris, To get all keypresses individually timestamped you have to use the collection of ResponseData associated with each object/input mask. There is no support via the AskBox to get this data, e.g. the AskBox is a built in feature of the E-Basic language which doesn't provide time stamping. Tony *** DISCLAIMER: ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF PSYCHOLOGY SOFTWARE TOOLS *** Anthony P. Zuccolotto Vice President Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 Phone 412-271-5040 FAX 412-271-7077 Email anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Internet http://www.pstnet.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Sukru Baris Demiral [mailto:baris at andrew.cmu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:29 AM > To: Tony Zuccolotto > Cc: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: keyboard input RT > > > Hi, > do you know how we can measure the RT of a keypress (or RTs of > all keypreses) during the collection of a string by using AskBox > function. ( I want to measure each keypress RT not the final termination > RT) > As far as I know, if we use slide or text object to collect a response we > can use KeyboardResponseData (or something like that) object and its RT > and RESP properties can give us the RT of any input keypres. But I don't > know on which object ASKBox function appears during runtime. > Baris > > > > > \ / ~ ~ > ~ -()- > _ ~ ~ / \ > ) > ) > ) -- > ) _ 0/_ \0_ > = :*_0 \/\_ | > = _`\<,_ / / \ > =.(*)/_(*)__............................................"" > > " Maths is just a very funny construction " From ftornay at ugr.es Tue Jan 13 15:41:41 2004 From: ftornay at ugr.es (ftornay at ugr.es) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:41:41 +0100 Subject: Sequential stimuli thats randomised In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mensaje citado por Khalilah Khan : > Hello e-prime users > > I have a list of 144 stimuli that I wish to present. There are 12 images each > in the 12 groups. I wish to run 12 images in sequential order but then wish > to randomise the groups. How can I do this? > Thank you for your help. > > Khalilah Khan > > IACS, Psychology > University of Warwick > Coventry > > This is similar to the way we randomize task sequences in our lab when using a task-switching paradigm One way of doing it is to set up 12 different procedures, each with a list that includes the 12 stimuli in each particular group. In the procedure attribute include your trial proc. Those lists should be ordered sequentially. Then setup a list with 12 levels and write the suitable procedure for every group. That list should be ordered at random. You end up having a higher-order list (with the groups) which selects a particular group-procedure at random. Then the program goes on to run the 12 trials in that group sequentially. Hope this helps, feel free to ask if I have not made myself clear enough. Francisco Tornay University of Granada Spain From K.Khan at warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 14 17:08:16 2004 From: K.Khan at warwick.ac.uk (Khalilah Khan) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:08:16 +0000 Subject: Selecting lists Message-ID: Hi e-prime users Thank you for your previous help. This is probably another simple query for most of you that I need help with. If I had 3 lists each consisting of 5 items of stimuli but only needed to run one list in a block, how would I get the program to randomly select one of the lists? Also randomising the selected list. I will then run some trials for the second block, but after block 2, depending on which list that was randomly selected in block 1 of the program, the program needs to select a list from another group of lists in block 3 that has a direct relationship to the first list that was displayed. Would this involve some scripting, perhaps the use of 'if else' statements? Many thanks Khalilah Khan IACS, Psychology University of Warwick Coventry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com Wed Jan 14 18:54:11 2004 From: brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com (Brandon Cernicky) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:54:11 -0800 Subject: Eprime + Port presses/releases Message-ID: ANAND, At this time, the port device is directed at reading and writing from memory registers such as a parallel port, game port, digital i/o card, etc. The use of a serial device connected to a serial port must be used via the E-Prime SerialDevice object. Access to serial device is not available via the Duration/Input property page. This object requires all input and output access to be gained via InLine script calls. If you are using a PST Serial Response Box, then use of the E-Prime SRBOX device object would provide the ability to gain access to the box via the Duration/Input property page tab per each object. If you are using your own custom response pad/box, then connecting to the serial port would require use of the SerialDevice. In general, press means a high or state 1. A release would mean a low or state zero on the memory register. The PortDevice does have the option to invert (reverse) the values presented to it in the event of active low devices. Since the data in a serial port comes in a serial manner, the use of the PortDevice behavior would be undefined depending on the protocol the data is using. In theory, the last bit passed to/from the serial port may/not be latched and you could get some consistency, but viewing exact data as mentioned may not be defined. For any custom devices, I would encourage using the PortDevice connected to the parallel port for easy input and output access. If your device does require standard COM serial port access, then use of the script SerialDevice would be required. Please feel free to view the "Sample: Serial Port Communications Example" sample on the E-Prime web support site, contact PST representatives on the PST Web Support site (www.pstnet.com/e-prime/support), or continue further inquiry on the E-Prime mailing list. -Brandon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brandon S. Cernicky Senior Software Engineer Psychology Software Tools **** Views expressed here are not necessarily that of Psychology Software Tools __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus From klatsky at Oswego.EDU Tue Jan 27 16:35:02 2004 From: klatsky at Oswego.EDU (Gary J. Klatsky) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:35:02 -0500 Subject: No subject Message-ID: I may have a case of mental set here. I am trying to build a mixed design with one between S’s variable. That variable level is based on S #. I’ve been looking in the documentation and samples but have not been able to see how to do this Thanks Gary Klatsky -- From dodane at isc.cnrs.fr Tue Jan 6 16:48:24 2004 From: dodane at isc.cnrs.fr (Christelle Dodane) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:48:24 +0100 Subject: Joystick and USB port Message-ID: Hello, We have a problem using a joystick in our experiment. The joystick is connected to a USB port.Once in "system", the game controller is located in USB, not in Sound, video and game controller. When we double click the Joystick controller, we can't find the resources in the properties. So where can we find it ? The second problem is probably related to the first one, we can't find Testgame.exe, and then can't run the MS Dos program. Thanks you for helping us, Christelle Dodane, Aur?lie Bailly and Jocelyne Ventre-Dominey. From brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com Wed Jan 7 13:59:40 2004 From: brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com (Brandon Cernicky) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 05:59:40 -0800 Subject: serial output? Message-ID: Unfortunately, the use of a USB joystick is not currently suppported within E-Prime. Unless the USB joystick is direct memory accessable and mimics a standard game port joystick, there is no way to access the capabilities of the joystick. E-Prime currently supports access to the buttons on Joysticks that attach to the game port on the motherboard or sound card. Additional/Full support for joysticks is planned for a future version. -Brandon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brandon S. Cernicky Senior Software Engineer Psychology Software Tools Views expressed here may not be that of Psychology Software Tools __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus From alakshmanan at students.wisc.edu Thu Jan 8 01:01:54 2004 From: alakshmanan at students.wisc.edu (ANAND LAKSHMANAN) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 19:01:54 -0600 Subject: Eprime + Port presses/releases Message-ID: Hi all, Is there more documentation/ information available on how EPrime handles port communication collection modes i.e. Presses Only/Releases Only/ Presses and Releases? We have a serial port configured to collect "presses" (from a response box) but some times EPrime seems to alternate randomly between collection modes. Has anyone had such problems before? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, Anand Lakshmanan ----- Original Message ----- From: Brandon Cernicky Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2004 7:59 am Subject: RE: serial output? > Unfortunately, the use of a USB joystick is not > currently suppported within E-Prime. Unless the USB > joystick is direct memory accessable and mimics a > standard game port joystick, there is no way to access > the capabilities of the joystick. E-Prime currently > supports access to the buttons on Joysticks that > attach to the game port on the motherboard or sound > card. > > Additional/Full support for joysticks is planned for a > future version. > > -Brandon > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Brandon S. Cernicky > Senior Software Engineer > Psychology Software Tools > > Views expressed here may not be that of Psychology > Software Tools > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus > > From leisha at decisionresearch.org Thu Jan 8 16:47:02 2004 From: leisha at decisionresearch.org (leisha) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:47:02 -0800 Subject: Two conditions Message-ID: Hello E-Prime gurus, I want to run two conditions, one with evaluable and one with nonevaluable stimuli. If I have a block list with two items that each call a different list of stimuli, then set the selection to permutation based on subject number, will odd-numbered subjects get ID number 1 and even-numbered subjects get ID number 2 consistently? Your help is much appreciated. Leisha Wharfield Decision Research Eugene, Oregon, USA From amy.eschman at pstnet.com Thu Jan 8 18:03:26 2004 From: amy.eschman at pstnet.com (Amy Eschman) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:03:26 -0500 Subject: Two conditions Message-ID: Leisha, The Permutation method is more than you need to accomplish this sampling. If you want odd-numbered subjects to get one condition (out of two) and even-numbered subjects to get the other, you should use Counterbalance by Subject. Permutation takes all possible combinations of the conditions, then selects one of the possible combinations based on the Order By value and runs all conditions within that combination in sequential order. Hope this helps, Amy Eschman ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit our Web Site for the latest info: http://www.pstnet.com E-mail: info at pstnet.com Voice: (412) 271-5040 Fax: (412) 271-7077 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *** DISCLAIMER: ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF PSYCHOLOGY SOFTWARE TOOLS *** -----Original Message----- From: leisha [mailto:leisha at decisionresearch.org] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:47 AM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: Two conditions Hello E-Prime gurus, I want to run two conditions, one with evaluable and one with nonevaluable stimuli. If I have a block list with two items that each call a different list of stimuli, then set the selection to permutation based on subject number, will odd-numbered subjects get ID number 1 and even-numbered subjects get ID number 2 consistently? Your help is much appreciated. Leisha Wharfield Decision Research Eugene, Oregon, USA From K.Khan at warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 13 13:55:16 2004 From: K.Khan at warwick.ac.uk (Khalilah Khan) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:55:16 +0000 Subject: Sequential stimuli thats randomised Message-ID: Hello e-prime users I have a list of 144 stimuli that I wish to present. There are 12 images each in the 12 groups. I wish to run 12 images in sequential order but then wish to randomise the groups. How can I do this? Thank you for your help. Khalilah Khan IACS, Psychology University of Warwick Coventry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Tue Jan 13 14:11:01 2004 From: anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Tony Zuccolotto) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:11:01 -0500 Subject: Sequential stimuli thats randomized Message-ID: Khalilah, The easiest way to do this is probably to use Nested lists, e.g. create 1 List for each of your 12 groups that you want to present. You then have 12 entries on your Block level list that correspond one to each group. Create an attribute on the Block level list (e.g. "StimList") which contains the name of the list you want to use/associate with each group (e.g. List1, List2, List3, ..., List12). Then on the Trial level list specify [StimList] in the Nested column and set the Weight to 12. This setup will randomly choose a set of stimuli to use and then run 12 sequential trials using the chosen "StimList" to provide the trial stimuli. Take a look at the NestingRT example included as an E-Prime sample experiment to see how Nesting can be used. The main difference between that example and what you want to do is that the example has the names of the nested lists specified explicitly, whereas in your experiment you want to specify the name of the nested list as an attribute [StimList] Hope that helps, Tony *** DISCLAIMER: ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF PSYCHOLOGY SOFTWARE TOOLS *** Anthony P. Zuccolotto Vice President Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 Phone 412-271-5040 FAX 412-271-7077 Email anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Internet http://www.pstnet.com -----Original Message----- From: Khalilah Khan [mailto:K.Khan at warwick.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:55 AM To: < Subject: Sequential stimuli thats randomised Hello e-prime users I have a list of 144 stimuli that I wish to present. There are 12 images each in the 12 groups. I wish to run 12 images in sequential order but then wish to randomise the groups. How can I do this? Thank you for your help. Khalilah Khan IACS, Psychology University of Warwick Coventry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From baris at andrew.cmu.edu Tue Jan 13 16:28:56 2004 From: baris at andrew.cmu.edu (Sukru Baris Demiral) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:28:56 -0500 Subject: keyboard input RT In-Reply-To: <6D8910A1FAF7E347B5C617CDE86FF4CD7E585A@mercury.pstmail> Message-ID: Hi, do you know how we can measure the RT of a keypress (or RTs of all keypreses) during the collection of a string by using AskBox function. ( I want to measure each keypress RT not the final termination RT) As far as I know, if we use slide or text object to collect a response we can use KeyboardResponseData (or something like that) object and its RT and RESP properties can give us the RT of any input keypres. But I don't know on which object ASKBox function appears during runtime. Baris \ / ~ ~ ~ -()- _ ~ ~ / \ ) ) ) -- ) _ 0/_ \0_ = :*_0 \/\_ | = _`\<,_ / / \ =.(*)/_(*)__............................................"" " Maths is just a very funny construction " From anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Tue Jan 13 19:07:35 2004 From: anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com (Tony Zuccolotto) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:07:35 -0500 Subject: keyboard input RT Message-ID: Baris, To get all keypresses individually timestamped you have to use the collection of ResponseData associated with each object/input mask. There is no support via the AskBox to get this data, e.g. the AskBox is a built in feature of the E-Basic language which doesn't provide time stamping. Tony *** DISCLAIMER: ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THOSE OF PSYCHOLOGY SOFTWARE TOOLS *** Anthony P. Zuccolotto Vice President Psychology Software Tools, Inc. 2050 Ardmore Boulevard Suite 200 Pittsburgh, PA 15221-4610 Phone 412-271-5040 FAX 412-271-7077 Email anthony.zuccolotto at pstnet.com Internet http://www.pstnet.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Sukru Baris Demiral [mailto:baris at andrew.cmu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:29 AM > To: Tony Zuccolotto > Cc: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: keyboard input RT > > > Hi, > do you know how we can measure the RT of a keypress (or RTs of > all keypreses) during the collection of a string by using AskBox > function. ( I want to measure each keypress RT not the final termination > RT) > As far as I know, if we use slide or text object to collect a response we > can use KeyboardResponseData (or something like that) object and its RT > and RESP properties can give us the RT of any input keypres. But I don't > know on which object ASKBox function appears during runtime. > Baris > > > > > \ / ~ ~ > ~ -()- > _ ~ ~ / \ > ) > ) > ) -- > ) _ 0/_ \0_ > = :*_0 \/\_ | > = _`\<,_ / / \ > =.(*)/_(*)__............................................"" > > " Maths is just a very funny construction " From ftornay at ugr.es Tue Jan 13 15:41:41 2004 From: ftornay at ugr.es (ftornay at ugr.es) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:41:41 +0100 Subject: Sequential stimuli thats randomised In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mensaje citado por Khalilah Khan : > Hello e-prime users > > I have a list of 144 stimuli that I wish to present. There are 12 images each > in the 12 groups. I wish to run 12 images in sequential order but then wish > to randomise the groups. How can I do this? > Thank you for your help. > > Khalilah Khan > > IACS, Psychology > University of Warwick > Coventry > > This is similar to the way we randomize task sequences in our lab when using a task-switching paradigm One way of doing it is to set up 12 different procedures, each with a list that includes the 12 stimuli in each particular group. In the procedure attribute include your trial proc. Those lists should be ordered sequentially. Then setup a list with 12 levels and write the suitable procedure for every group. That list should be ordered at random. You end up having a higher-order list (with the groups) which selects a particular group-procedure at random. Then the program goes on to run the 12 trials in that group sequentially. Hope this helps, feel free to ask if I have not made myself clear enough. Francisco Tornay University of Granada Spain From K.Khan at warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 14 17:08:16 2004 From: K.Khan at warwick.ac.uk (Khalilah Khan) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:08:16 +0000 Subject: Selecting lists Message-ID: Hi e-prime users Thank you for your previous help. This is probably another simple query for most of you that I need help with. If I had 3 lists each consisting of 5 items of stimuli but only needed to run one list in a block, how would I get the program to randomly select one of the lists? Also randomising the selected list. I will then run some trials for the second block, but after block 2, depending on which list that was randomly selected in block 1 of the program, the program needs to select a list from another group of lists in block 3 that has a direct relationship to the first list that was displayed. Would this involve some scripting, perhaps the use of 'if else' statements? Many thanks Khalilah Khan IACS, Psychology University of Warwick Coventry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com Wed Jan 14 18:54:11 2004 From: brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com (Brandon Cernicky) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:54:11 -0800 Subject: Eprime + Port presses/releases Message-ID: ANAND, At this time, the port device is directed at reading and writing from memory registers such as a parallel port, game port, digital i/o card, etc. The use of a serial device connected to a serial port must be used via the E-Prime SerialDevice object. Access to serial device is not available via the Duration/Input property page. This object requires all input and output access to be gained via InLine script calls. If you are using a PST Serial Response Box, then use of the E-Prime SRBOX device object would provide the ability to gain access to the box via the Duration/Input property page tab per each object. If you are using your own custom response pad/box, then connecting to the serial port would require use of the SerialDevice. In general, press means a high or state 1. A release would mean a low or state zero on the memory register. The PortDevice does have the option to invert (reverse) the values presented to it in the event of active low devices. Since the data in a serial port comes in a serial manner, the use of the PortDevice behavior would be undefined depending on the protocol the data is using. In theory, the last bit passed to/from the serial port may/not be latched and you could get some consistency, but viewing exact data as mentioned may not be defined. For any custom devices, I would encourage using the PortDevice connected to the parallel port for easy input and output access. If your device does require standard COM serial port access, then use of the script SerialDevice would be required. Please feel free to view the "Sample: Serial Port Communications Example" sample on the E-Prime web support site, contact PST representatives on the PST Web Support site (www.pstnet.com/e-prime/support), or continue further inquiry on the E-Prime mailing list. -Brandon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brandon S. Cernicky Senior Software Engineer Psychology Software Tools **** Views expressed here are not necessarily that of Psychology Software Tools __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus From klatsky at Oswego.EDU Tue Jan 27 16:35:02 2004 From: klatsky at Oswego.EDU (Gary J. Klatsky) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:35:02 -0500 Subject: No subject Message-ID: I may have a case of mental set here. I am trying to build a mixed design with one between S?s variable. That variable level is based on S #. I?ve been looking in the documentation and samples but have not been able to see how to do this Thanks Gary Klatsky --