From r.l.c.mitchell at reading.ac.uk Tue Apr 4 14:43:31 2006 From: r.l.c.mitchell at reading.ac.uk (Rachel Mitchell) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:43:31 +0100 Subject: Jumps, labels and input masks Message-ID: Hello all I keep getting an error when trying to run my programme and I don't know why it is occurring and what I need to do about it. In summary, in my paradigm participants see a series of increasingly intense facial emotion pictures 0, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% and so on). Participants have to press a response key as soon as they've decided what emotion is emerging. It works fine, apart from when participants don't make a response for that trial/series. Then I get this error message...... Run-time Error (Line 830) 11016: Application-defined or object-defined error And the script box highlights.... '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ' Label - Label1 BEGIN '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Label1: If Err.Number = ebInputAccepted Then Err.Clear Resume Label1Resume ElseIf Err.Number <> 0 Then 'NOTE: If you receive a runtime error here, it ' is because a runtime error other than ebInputAccepted ' was thrown (ebInputAccepted for catching input masks that jump). 'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up ' your own error handler, which will also need to take ' into account for any input masks that jump. ' 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the message Err.Raise Err.Number End If Label1Resume: '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ' Label - Label1 END '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Can anyone tell me what I have done wrong and what I need to do to prevent the above? I should perhaps mention at this point, that I don't tend to use in-line script. As far as I know, I have the latest version (service pack 3) Hoping someone can help With best wishes Rachel Mitchell -------------------------------------------------------- Dr Rachel L. C. Mitchell. Lecturer in Cognitive Psychology, University of Reading. Honorary Research Fellow, Institute of Psychiatry. Research Psychologist, Berkshire Healthcare NHS Trust. Correspondence Address: School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences, Whiteknights Road University of Reading Reading Berkshire RG6 6AL Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8523 Direct Dial: +44 (0)118 378 7530 Fax: +44 (0)118 378 6715 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leisha at decisionresearch.org Tue Apr 4 17:01:39 2006 From: leisha at decisionresearch.org (Leisha Wharfield) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:01:39 -0700 Subject: Jumps, labels and input masks In-Reply-To: <008f01c657f6$261db410$16c7e186@psychology.rdg.ac.uk> Message-ID: How does your stimulus object end? Does it end by jumping somewhere, does it time out, or does it end when the subject inputs their response? Leisha Wharfield Decision Research Eugene, Oregon, USA Rachel Mitchell wrote: >Hello all > >I keep getting an error when trying to run my programme and I don't know why >it is occurring and what I need to do about it. > >In summary, in my paradigm participants see a series of increasingly intense >facial emotion pictures 0, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% and so on). >Participants have to press a response key as soon as they've decided what >emotion is emerging. >It works fine, apart from when participants don't make a response for that >trial/series. >Then I get this error message...... >Run-time Error (Line 830) >11016: Application-defined or object-defined error > >And the script box highlights.... > > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > ' Label - Label1 BEGIN > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > >Label1: > If Err.Number = ebInputAccepted Then > Err.Clear > Resume Label1Resume > ElseIf Err.Number <> 0 Then > 'NOTE: If you receive a runtime error here, it > ' is because a runtime error other than ebInputAccepted > ' was thrown (ebInputAccepted for catching input masks that >jump). > 'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that > ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up > ' your own error handler, which will also need to take > ' into account for any input masks that jump. > ' > 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the >message > Err.Raise Err.Number > End If > >Label1Resume: > > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > ' Label - Label1 END > > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >Can anyone tell me what I have done wrong and what I need to do to prevent >the above? >I should perhaps mention at this point, that I don't tend to use in-line >script. >As far as I know, I have the latest version (service pack 3) > >Hoping someone can help > >With best wishes >Rachel Mitchell > >-------------------------------------------------------- >Dr Rachel L. C. Mitchell. >Lecturer in Cognitive Psychology, University of Reading. >Honorary Research Fellow, Institute of Psychiatry. >Research Psychologist, Berkshire Healthcare NHS Trust. > >Correspondence Address: >School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences, >Whiteknights Road >University of Reading >Reading >Berkshire >RG6 6AL > >Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8523 >Direct Dial: +44 (0)118 378 7530 >Fax: +44 (0)118 378 6715 >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > From r.l.c.mitchell at reading.ac.uk Tue Apr 4 17:21:39 2006 From: r.l.c.mitchell at reading.ac.uk (Rachel Mitchell) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 18:21:39 +0100 Subject: Jumps, labels and input masks In-Reply-To: <4432A673.7020200@decisionresearch.org> Message-ID: Hi Leisha In the trial procedure line, there are separate slides straight after each other (1.5sec each) for 25% intensity, 50%, 75%, 100%, 125% and 150%. Participants are instructed to press the appropriate response key as the emotion evolves, as soon as they've made their mind up. Theoretically participants could have made their decision during any of these slides, so each one is programmed to jump to label1 following a response. Label1 is positioned at the end of the trial procedure line. After this is a 1.5sec wait screen for my ISI. The programme then goes back to the trial list (there is a single trial list on the session procedure line, with no block lists) and randomly selects another trial/series. I just tried making the response time infinite for the 150% screen to force them to respond, but I got the same error after a while (although at least the programme got a little further this time!). Someone kindly suggested the problem was because the jump command didn't know what to do if participants didn't respond - and suggested I try and incorporate a feedback screen, remove all text from it, and set the input object name to the stimulus. I tried setting it to the last screen (the 150%), but this didn't work (I'm not quite sure I was interpreting their suggestion correctly though, or that I had described my task sufficiently). This task is being used for a patient study and we have so little time left I am very grateful to those who have responded. Does the further description above give you any ideas Leisha? With best wishes Rachel -------------------------------------------------------- Dr Rachel L. C. Mitchell. Lecturer in Cognitive Psychology, University of Reading. Honorary Research Fellow, Institute of Psychiatry. Research Psychologist, Berkshire Healthcare NHS Trust. Correspondence Address: School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences, Whiteknights Road University of Reading Reading Berkshire RG6 6AL Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8523 Direct Dial: +44 (0)118 378 7530 Fax: +44 (0)118 378 6715 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf Of Leisha Wharfield Sent: 04 April 2006 18:02 Cc: Eprime mailing list Subject: Re: Jumps, labels and input masks How does your stimulus object end? Does it end by jumping somewhere, does it time out, or does it end when the subject inputs their response? Leisha Wharfield Decision Research Eugene, Oregon, USA Rachel Mitchell wrote: >Hello all > >I keep getting an error when trying to run my programme and I don't >know why it is occurring and what I need to do about it. > >In summary, in my paradigm participants see a series of increasingly >intense facial emotion pictures 0, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% and so on). >Participants have to press a response key as soon as they've decided >what emotion is emerging. >It works fine, apart from when participants don't make a response for >that trial/series. >Then I get this error message...... >Run-time Error (Line 830) >11016: Application-defined or object-defined error > >And the script box highlights.... > > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > ' Label - Label1 BEGIN > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > >Label1: > If Err.Number = ebInputAccepted Then > Err.Clear > Resume Label1Resume > ElseIf Err.Number <> 0 Then > 'NOTE: If you receive a runtime error here, it > ' is because a runtime error other than ebInputAccepted > ' was thrown (ebInputAccepted for catching input masks that jump). > 'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that > ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up > ' your own error handler, which will also need to take > ' into account for any input masks that jump. > ' > 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the message > Err.Raise Err.Number > End If > >Label1Resume: > > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > ' Label - Label1 END > > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >Can anyone tell me what I have done wrong and what I need to do to >prevent the above? >I should perhaps mention at this point, that I don't tend to use >in-line script. >As far as I know, I have the latest version (service pack 3) > >Hoping someone can help > >With best wishes >Rachel Mitchell > >-------------------------------------------------------- >Dr Rachel L. C. Mitchell. >Lecturer in Cognitive Psychology, University of Reading. >Honorary Research Fellow, Institute of Psychiatry. >Research Psychologist, Berkshire Healthcare NHS Trust. > >Correspondence Address: >School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences, Whiteknights Road >University of Reading Reading Berkshire >RG6 6AL > >Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8523 >Direct Dial: +44 (0)118 378 7530 >Fax: +44 (0)118 378 6715 >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > From uni at robertdoerr.de Tue Apr 4 18:18:39 2006 From: uni at robertdoerr.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Robert_D=F6rr?=) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:18:39 +0200 Subject: Jumps, labels and input masks In-Reply-To: <00a701c6580c$3c20c430$16c7e186@psychology.rdg.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Rachel, Unfortunately, I am not able to reproduce your error. It must be something specific to your experiment. What you can try as a 'quick and dirty' workaround is the following: Set your slides' end action to terminate (not to jump). After each slide you put an short inline script containing this code: if TextDisplay1.RT <> 0 then goto Label1 else TextDisplay1 should be replaced by the appropriate slide name. I am not sure if this solves your problem, because I cannot test it. Best wishes Robert Dörr Rachel Mitchell wrote: >Hi Leisha > >In the trial procedure line, there are separate slides straight after each >other (1.5sec each) for 25% intensity, 50%, 75%, 100%, 125% and 150%. >Participants are instructed to press the appropriate response key as the >emotion evolves, as soon as they've made their mind up. >Theoretically participants could have made their decision during any of >these slides, so each one is programmed to jump to label1 following a >response. >Label1 is positioned at the end of the trial procedure line. >After this is a 1.5sec wait screen for my ISI. >The programme then goes back to the trial list (there is a single trial list >on the session procedure line, with no block lists) and randomly selects >another trial/series. > >I just tried making the response time infinite for the 150% screen to force >them to respond, but I got the same error after a while (although at least >the programme got a little further this time!). > >Someone kindly suggested the problem was because the jump command didn't >know what to do if participants didn't respond - and suggested I try and >incorporate a feedback screen, remove all text from it, and set the input >object name to the stimulus. >I tried setting it to the last screen (the 150%), but this didn't work (I'm >not quite sure I was interpreting their suggestion correctly though, or that >I had described my task sufficiently). > >This task is being used for a patient study and we have so little time left >I am very grateful to those who have responded. >Does the further description above give you any ideas Leisha? > >With best wishes >Rachel > > >-------------------------------------------------------- >Dr Rachel L. C. Mitchell. >Lecturer in Cognitive Psychology, University of Reading. >Honorary Research Fellow, Institute of Psychiatry. >Research Psychologist, Berkshire Healthcare NHS Trust. > >Correspondence Address: >School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences, >Whiteknights Road >University of Reading >Reading >Berkshire >RG6 6AL > >Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8523 >Direct Dial: +44 (0)118 378 7530 >Fax: +44 (0)118 378 6715 >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >-----Original Message----- >From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf >Of Leisha Wharfield >Sent: 04 April 2006 18:02 >Cc: Eprime mailing list >Subject: Re: Jumps, labels and input masks > >How does your stimulus object end? Does it end by jumping somewhere, does it >time out, or does it end when the subject inputs their response? > >Leisha Wharfield >Decision Research >Eugene, Oregon, USA > >Rachel Mitchell wrote: > > > >>Hello all >> >>I keep getting an error when trying to run my programme and I don't >>know why it is occurring and what I need to do about it. >> >>In summary, in my paradigm participants see a series of increasingly >>intense facial emotion pictures 0, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% and so on). >>Participants have to press a response key as soon as they've decided >>what emotion is emerging. >>It works fine, apart from when participants don't make a response for >>that trial/series. >>Then I get this error message...... >>Run-time Error (Line 830) >>11016: Application-defined or object-defined error >> >>And the script box highlights.... >> >> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >> ' Label - Label1 BEGIN >> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >> >>Label1: >> If Err.Number = ebInputAccepted Then >> Err.Clear >> Resume Label1Resume >> ElseIf Err.Number <> 0 Then >> 'NOTE: If you receive a runtime error here, it >> ' is because a runtime error other than ebInputAccepted >> ' was thrown (ebInputAccepted for catching input masks that >> >> >jump). > > >> 'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that >> ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up >> ' your own error handler, which will also need to take >> ' into account for any input masks that jump. >> ' >> 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the >> >> >message > > >> Err.Raise Err.Number >> End If >> >>Label1Resume: >> >> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >> ' Label - Label1 END >> >> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >>Can anyone tell me what I have done wrong and what I need to do to >>prevent the above? >>I should perhaps mention at this point, that I don't tend to use >>in-line script. >>As far as I know, I have the latest version (service pack 3) >> >>Hoping someone can help >> >>With best wishes >>Rachel Mitchell >> >>-------------------------------------------------------- >>Dr Rachel L. C. Mitchell. >>Lecturer in Cognitive Psychology, University of Reading. >>Honorary Research Fellow, Institute of Psychiatry. >>Research Psychologist, Berkshire Healthcare NHS Trust. >> >>Correspondence Address: >>School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences, Whiteknights Road >>University of Reading Reading Berkshire >>RG6 6AL >> >>Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8523 >>Direct Dial: +44 (0)118 378 7530 >>Fax: +44 (0)118 378 6715 >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> From uni at robertdoerr.de Tue Apr 4 20:23:41 2006 From: uni at robertdoerr.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Robert_D=F6rr?=) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 22:23:41 +0200 Subject: Jumps, labels and input masks [Typo correction] In-Reply-To: <4432B87F.4060703@robertdoerr.de> Message-ID: The code should be: if TextDisplay1.RT <> 0 then goto Label1 end if Robert Dörr wrote: > Hi Rachel, > > Unfortunately, I am not able to reproduce your error. It must be > something specific to your experiment. > What you can try as a 'quick and dirty' workaround is the following: > Set your slides' end action to terminate (not to jump). After each slide > you put an short inline script containing this code: > > if TextDisplay1.RT <> 0 then > goto Label1 > else > > TextDisplay1 should be replaced by the appropriate slide name. > > I am not sure if this solves your problem, because I cannot test it. > > Best wishes > Robert Dörr > > > Rachel Mitchell wrote: > >> Hi Leisha >> >> In the trial procedure line, there are separate slides straight after >> each >> other (1.5sec each) for 25% intensity, 50%, 75%, 100%, 125% and 150%. >> Participants are instructed to press the appropriate response key as the >> emotion evolves, as soon as they've made their mind up. >> Theoretically participants could have made their decision during any of >> these slides, so each one is programmed to jump to label1 following a >> response. >> Label1 is positioned at the end of the trial procedure line. >> After this is a 1.5sec wait screen for my ISI. >> The programme then goes back to the trial list (there is a single >> trial list >> on the session procedure line, with no block lists) and randomly selects >> another trial/series. >> >> I just tried making the response time infinite for the 150% screen to >> force >> them to respond, but I got the same error after a while (although at >> least >> the programme got a little further this time!). >> >> Someone kindly suggested the problem was because the jump command didn't >> know what to do if participants didn't respond - and suggested I try and >> incorporate a feedback screen, remove all text from it, and set the >> input >> object name to the stimulus. I tried setting it to the last screen >> (the 150%), but this didn't work (I'm >> not quite sure I was interpreting their suggestion correctly though, >> or that >> I had described my task sufficiently). >> >> This task is being used for a patient study and we have so little >> time left >> I am very grateful to those who have responded. >> Does the further description above give you any ideas Leisha? >> >> With best wishes >> Rachel >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> Dr Rachel L. C. Mitchell. >> Lecturer in Cognitive Psychology, University of Reading. >> Honorary Research Fellow, Institute of Psychiatry. >> Research Psychologist, Berkshire Healthcare NHS Trust. >> >> Correspondence Address: >> School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences, >> Whiteknights Road >> University of Reading >> Reading >> Berkshire >> RG6 6AL >> >> Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8523 >> Direct Dial: +44 (0)118 378 7530 >> Fax: +44 (0)118 378 6715 >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On >> Behalf >> Of Leisha Wharfield >> Sent: 04 April 2006 18:02 >> Cc: Eprime mailing list >> Subject: Re: Jumps, labels and input masks >> >> How does your stimulus object end? Does it end by jumping somewhere, >> does it >> time out, or does it end when the subject inputs their response? >> >> Leisha Wharfield >> Decision Research >> Eugene, Oregon, USA >> >> Rachel Mitchell wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hello all >>> >>> I keep getting an error when trying to run my programme and I don't >>> know why it is occurring and what I need to do about it. >>> >>> In summary, in my paradigm participants see a series of increasingly >>> intense facial emotion pictures 0, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% and so on). >>> Participants have to press a response key as soon as they've decided >>> what emotion is emerging. >>> It works fine, apart from when participants don't make a response >>> for that trial/series. >>> Then I get this error message...... >>> Run-time Error (Line 830) >>> 11016: Application-defined or object-defined error >>> >>> And the script box highlights.... >>> >>> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >>> >>> ' Label - Label1 BEGIN >>> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >>> >>> >>> Label1: >>> If Err.Number = ebInputAccepted Then >>> Err.Clear >>> Resume Label1Resume >>> ElseIf Err.Number <> 0 Then >>> 'NOTE: If you receive a runtime error here, it >>> ' is because a runtime error other than ebInputAccepted >>> ' was thrown (ebInputAccepted for catching input masks that >>> >> >> jump). >> >> >>> 'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that >>> ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up >>> ' your own error handler, which will also need to take >>> ' into account for any input masks that jump. >>> ' >>> 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the >>> >> >> message >> >> >>> Err.Raise Err.Number >>> End If >>> >>> Label1Resume: >>> >>> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >>> >>> ' Label - Label1 END >>> >>> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >>> >>> Can anyone tell me what I have done wrong and what I need to do to >>> prevent the above? >>> I should perhaps mention at this point, that I don't tend to use >>> in-line script. >>> As far as I know, I have the latest version (service pack 3) >>> >>> Hoping someone can help >>> >>> With best wishes >>> Rachel Mitchell >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------- >>> Dr Rachel L. C. Mitchell. >>> Lecturer in Cognitive Psychology, University of Reading. >>> Honorary Research Fellow, Institute of Psychiatry. >>> Research Psychologist, Berkshire Healthcare NHS Trust. >>> >>> Correspondence Address: >>> School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences, Whiteknights >>> Road University of Reading Reading Berkshire >>> RG6 6AL >>> >>> Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8523 >>> Direct Dial: +44 (0)118 378 7530 >>> Fax: +44 (0)118 378 6715 >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > > > From rayv at uoregon.edu Tue Apr 4 22:22:20 2006 From: rayv at uoregon.edu (Ray Vukcevich) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:22:20 -0700 Subject: Just Run Message-ID: Is there a way to just run an experiment? I mean instead of clicking the E-run file and then Build and then Run? What I'd like is something to click on and the experiment would then just start. Is there a command line way to that? If so, maybe we could make a shortcut to that or something? Thanks. Ray -- Ray Vukcevich University of Oregon From leisha at decisionresearch.org Tue Apr 4 22:58:41 2006 From: leisha at decisionresearch.org (Leisha Wharfield) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:58:41 -0700 Subject: Quick launch experiments Message-ID: Hi, Is there an easier way to launch an experiment than to open the *.ebs file, then either choose Run off the Build menu or press F7? Just a double-click shortcut is I think what our friend is looking for. Thanks, Leisha Wharfield Decision Research Eugene, Oregon, USA From psudevan at uwsp.edu Wed Apr 5 03:00:16 2006 From: psudevan at uwsp.edu (Sudevan, Padmanabhan) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 22:00:16 -0500 Subject: Just Run Message-ID: Hello Ray, The way I have set things up in my lab is as follows: Once the experiment is developed and ready to run, I simply copy the script ( .ebs ) file to an appropriate folder on each of my four lab machines. Then I create a shortcut using the procedure outlined in the E-Prime User's Guide. This creates an icon that can be placed in a directory for experiments, or even on the desktop of each machine if you wish. Once a shortcut is set up, for future experiemtns, all you have to do is make a copy, rename it for the new experiment, then change the Target and Start In fields to incorporate the name of the new experiment. I hope this makes sense. P Sudevan -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org on behalf of Ray Vukcevich Sent: Tue 4/4/2006 5:22 PM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: Just Run Is there a way to just run an experiment? I mean instead of clicking the E-run file and then Build and then Run? What I'd like is something to click on and the experiment would then just start. Is there a command line way to that? If so, maybe we could make a shortcut to that or something? Thanks. Ray -- Ray Vukcevich University of Oregon From asa8 at leicester.ac.uk Wed Apr 5 07:44:19 2006 From: asa8 at leicester.ac.uk (Andrews, A.S.) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:44:19 +0100 Subject: Just Run Message-ID: Ray You need to create a desktop shortcut to E-Run and then edit the properties so the Target line is in the form: "C:\Program Files\PST\E-Prime\Program\E-Run.exe" /m /a "path and filename of .ebs script" Note all the quotes and spaces should be included. The /m switch means run E-Run minimized (the user will never even see it if you don't crash out of the experiment) and the /a means auto-run the specified script. HTH. Regards, Tony. -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf Of Sudevan, Padmanabhan Sent: 05 April 2006 04:00 To: rayv at uoregon.edu; eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: RE: Just Run Hello Ray, The way I have set things up in my lab is as follows: Once the experiment is developed and ready to run, I simply copy the script ( .ebs ) file to an appropriate folder on each of my four lab machines. Then I create a shortcut using the procedure outlined in the E-Prime User's Guide. This creates an icon that can be placed in a directory for experiments, or even on the desktop of each machine if you wish. Once a shortcut is set up, for future experiemtns, all you have to do is make a copy, rename it for the new experiment, then change the Target and Start In fields to incorporate the name of the new experiment. I hope this makes sense. P Sudevan -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org on behalf of Ray Vukcevich Sent: Tue 4/4/2006 5:22 PM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: Just Run Is there a way to just run an experiment? I mean instead of clicking the E-run file and then Build and then Run? What I'd like is something to click on and the experiment would then just start. Is there a command line way to that? If so, maybe we could make a shortcut to that or something? Thanks. Ray -- Ray Vukcevich University of Oregon From jared.smith at reading.ac.uk Wed Apr 5 10:22:11 2006 From: jared.smith at reading.ac.uk (Jared G. Smith) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:22:11 +0100 Subject: Line bisection experiment in E-prime Message-ID: Hi there, I am beginning to construct a variant of the line bisection paradigm using E-prime. Not being experienced in the use of scripts, I was hoping someone might be willing to share a script for this type of task or perhaps point me in the right direction so as to design a task in which for each trial a cursor can be moved left or right according to a keypress and at the finish of each trial (signified by pressing ) the spatial coordinates of the cursor are logged. I would be very appreciative of any help with this matter. Best Wishes, Dr Jared G Smith School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences University of Reading Earley Gate Reading UK RG6 6AL E-mail: jared.smith at reading.ac.uk From pkieffab at indiana.edu Wed Apr 5 11:28:11 2006 From: pkieffab at indiana.edu (Paul Kieffaber) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 06:28:11 -0500 Subject: Just Run In-Reply-To: <2E53F217D30BB54B806304C2D519967E03C3FBC6@ems6.uwsp.edu> Message-ID: Ray, I have used a free, open-source utility called AutoHotkey (http://www.autohotkey.com/). With it, you can write simple scripts to run the .ebs file and automate keystrokes such as F7 or subject numbers etc. You can even create forms and store data so that you can collect demographics and then have the .ebs file run automatically when the person submits their demographic info. Paul -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf Of Sudevan, Padmanabhan Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 10:00 PM To: rayv at uoregon.edu; eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: RE: Just Run Hello Ray, The way I have set things up in my lab is as follows: Once the experiment is developed and ready to run, I simply copy the script ( .ebs ) file to an appropriate folder on each of my four lab machines. Then I create a shortcut using the procedure outlined in the E-Prime User's Guide. This creates an icon that can be placed in a directory for experiments, or even on the desktop of each machine if you wish. Once a shortcut is set up, for future experiemtns, all you have to do is make a copy, rename it for the new experiment, then change the Target and Start In fields to incorporate the name of the new experiment. I hope this makes sense. P Sudevan -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org on behalf of Ray Vukcevich Sent: Tue 4/4/2006 5:22 PM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: Just Run Is there a way to just run an experiment? I mean instead of clicking the E-run file and then Build and then Run? What I'd like is something to click on and the experiment would then just start. Is there a command line way to that? If so, maybe we could make a shortcut to that or something? Thanks. Ray -- Ray Vukcevich University of Oregon From rayv at uoregon.edu Wed Apr 5 17:12:47 2006 From: rayv at uoregon.edu (Ray Vukcevich) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 10:12:47 -0700 Subject: Just Run Message-ID: Thanks everyone. I'll give all of your excellent suggestions a try. The researcher in question was just concerned about making the experiments run easily with as few ways for things to go wrong as possible for the RAa. Ray Paul Kieffaber wrote: > Ray, > I have used a free, open-source utility called AutoHotkey > (http://www.autohotkey.com/). With it, you can write simple scripts to run > the .ebs file and automate keystrokes such as F7 or subject numbers etc. > You can even create forms and store data so that you can collect > demographics and then have the .ebs file run automatically when the person > submits their demographic info. > > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf > Of Sudevan, Padmanabhan > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 10:00 PM > To: rayv at uoregon.edu; eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: RE: Just Run > > > Hello Ray, > > The way I have set things up in my lab is as follows: Once the experiment is > developed and ready to run, I simply copy the script ( .ebs ) file to an > appropriate folder on each of my four lab machines. Then I create a shortcut > using the procedure outlined in the E-Prime User's Guide. This creates an > icon that can be placed in a directory for experiments, or even on the > desktop of each machine if you wish. Once a shortcut is set up, for future > experiemtns, all you have to do is make a copy, rename it for the new > experiment, then change the Target and Start In fields to incorporate the > name of the new experiment. > > I hope this makes sense. > > P Sudevan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org on behalf of Ray Vukcevich > Sent: Tue 4/4/2006 5:22 PM > To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: Just Run > > Is there a way to just run an experiment? > I mean instead of clicking the E-run file and then Build and then Run? > What I'd like is something to click on and the experiment would then > just start. Is there a command line way to that? If so, maybe we could > make a shortcut to that or something? > > Thanks. > > Ray > -- Ray Vukcevich MEET ME IN THE MOON ROOM. http://www.lcrw.net/rayvukcevich/ Other stuff. http://www.sff.net/people/RayV/ From brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 13:01:34 2006 From: brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com (Brandon Cernicky) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 06:01:34 -0700 Subject: XP Start Menu trick In-Reply-To: <44401.78052@mail.talkbank.org> Message-ID: Hi Leisha, Many in the group have already responded with how to use MSCONFIG, but I wanted every one to know that the EP knowledge base has an article in relation to this. http://www.pstnet.com/e-prime/support/kb.asp?TopicID=2621 More importantly, there are times when users are finding that a background application is causing a conflict. Using MSCONFIG in the barebones mode allows for E-Prime to run. The only method to determine what the conflict app is via brute force by checking an item, reboot, see if the problem occurs. If anyone finds an application that is in conflict with an E-Prime experiment run, please report this to PST and the group. BTW Leisha, I am the one who put the skull/crossbones icon in the Procedure when there is a bad reference ;-) -Brandon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brandon S. Cernicky Senior Software Engineer Psychology Software Tools __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 13:04:45 2006 From: brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com (Brandon Cernicky) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 06:04:45 -0700 Subject: Quick launch experiments In-Reply-To: <44401.78052@mail.talkbank.org> Message-ID: Hi Leisha, E-Run has the ability to automatically run via some command line switches. Specifying these command line switches (/a to autorun) can be tedious due to how long path names are and dealing with quoted strings on long path names. I would recommend contacting PST support and asking about these command line options but more beneficial for the "E-Shortcut" application which will make the shortcut on your desktop for you. -Brandon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brandon S. Cernicky Senior Software Engineer Psychology Software Tools >> Hi, >> >> Is there an easier way to launch an experiment than to open the *.ebs >> file, then either choose Run off the Build menu or press F7? Just a >> double-click shortcut is I think what our friend is looking for. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Leisha Wharfield >> Decision Research >> Eugene, Oregon, USA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From r.l.c.mitchell at reading.ac.uk Thu Apr 6 13:18:42 2006 From: r.l.c.mitchell at reading.ac.uk (Rachel Mitchell) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:18:42 +0100 Subject: FW: Cool Cat Message-ID: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Teresa Young [mailto:t.a.young at reading.ac.uk] Sent: 06 April 2006 14:13 To: Rachel Mitchell; Patricia Riddell; Graham Schafer; Emily Farran; Carmel Houston-Price Subject: Cool Cat Cool Black Cat with Green Eyes (click link below) to see something awesome! There are some great code writers out there! If you tease her with the mouse pointer on her chest or stomach she will purr, I got her to meow also, by rubbing her forehead with the pointer. If you make a slow circle around her body, (counter-clockwise) not only will her head/eyes follow your pointer, but toward the top, her paw will go up, and when in front of her paws at the bottom, her foot comes out like she wants to play with your mouse pointer. (Don't hold the mouse down, just move it) http://www.broenink-art.nl/maukie2.swf -- From r.l.c.mitchell at reading.ac.uk Thu Apr 6 13:25:58 2006 From: r.l.c.mitchell at reading.ac.uk (Rachel Mitchell) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:25:58 +0100 Subject: APOLOGIES!!! In-Reply-To: <003301c6597c$a650d590$16c7e186@psychology.rdg.ac.uk> Message-ID: Distribution of that last email was an error. My sincerest apologies. Rachel From mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk Thu Apr 6 16:47:24 2006 From: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk (Mariana Silva) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:47:24 +0100 Subject: Mouse click position Message-ID: Hi Does anyone have a script that will register where in the screen the mouse click occurred? Many thanks Mariana --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mariana M. Silva Research Fellow UCL Interaction Centre Room 4.05, Remax House 31/32 Alfred Place London WC1E 7DP UK Tel: +44 (0) 20 7679 5204 Fax: +44 (0)20 7679 5295 e-mail: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk From michael.crowley at yale.edu Thu Apr 6 18:17:10 2006 From: michael.crowley at yale.edu (michael.crowley at yale.edu) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:17:10 -0400 Subject: Mouse click position In-Reply-To: <007101c65999$c8a80240$f89e2880@MarianaSilva> Message-ID: Mariana, the eprime website has an example with the code for this application. just modifiy the code to suit your needs. best, Mike Quoting Mariana Silva : > Hi > > Does anyone have a script that will register where in the screen the mouse > click occurred? > Many thanks > > Mariana > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mariana M. Silva > Research Fellow > UCL Interaction Centre > Room 4.05, Remax House > 31/32 Alfred Place > London WC1E 7DP > UK > Tel: +44 (0) 20 7679 5204 > Fax: +44 (0)20 7679 5295 > e-mail: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk > > > > Please be aware that email communication can be intercepted in transmission or misdirected. Please consider communicating any sensitive information by telephone, fax or mail. The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If you are NOT the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately with a copy to hipaa.security at yale.edu and destroy this message. From brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 12:31:23 2006 From: brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com (Brandon Cernicky) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 05:31:23 -0700 Subject: Jumps, labels and input masks In-Reply-To: <44401.78052@mail.talkbank.org> Message-ID: Hi Rachel, E-Prime allows for jumping to occur by throwing a runtime error -998 "Input Accepted". The Label object generates code which sets up an E-Basic error handler to trap the "Input Accepted" runtime error when a jump occurs so that the experiment can continue properly. If any other error occurs (see below), the error handler from the Label is not able to handle this and just throws/raises the error again. Thus you get the "application defined" error. Ultimately, another runtime error is occuring. Many times this is in regards to an object referencing an [attrib] value that doesn't exist. To find out what the error is, you can do one of the following: 1) Instead of using the Label, drop the following code below in an InLine. This inline generates the exact same code a Label does with the exception of the .Raise call providing more information which will show what the verbose error is. It will not indicate where the error occurs, but if the error is "[Stimulus1] cannot be resolved" then you can narrow it down. '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ' Label - Label1 BEGIN '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Label1: If Err.Number = ebInputAccepted Then Err.Clear Resume Label1Resume ElseIf Err.Number <> 0 Then 'NOTE: If you receive a runtime error here, it ' is because a runtime error other than ebInputAccepted ' was thrown (ebInputAccepted for catching input masks that jump). 'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up ' your own error handler, which will also need to take ' into account for any input masks that jump. ' 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the message Err.Raise Err.Number, Err.Source, Err.Description End If Label1Resume: '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ' Label - Label1 END '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' On Error GoTo 0 2) Use the Label object in E-Prime 1.2 (soon to be released) which generates the code above in the Label. 3) Remove your label and reference to the label in the text/slide object. This will tempoarily not permit your intended execution of the paradigm to occur, but w/o the error handlers being in there, the outside error will be handled by the default error handler and more verbose information and where it is occurring can be obtained. 4) Attach your experiment to a Web Support ticket in E-Prime Web Support and one of the tech consultants will be happy to assist. Another item that must be mentioned is that error handlers whether done through the Label object or in custom InLine are set from the time the "On Error" call is executed until the next time an "On Error" is executed again or the procedure ends. This means that if a runtime error occurs AFTER your label it will jump BACKWARDS. This can be remedied by placing On Error GoTo 0 in an InLine just after your label or by setting up another Label object and setting its name in the Duration/Input tab of an object that appears after the original label. -Brandon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brandon S. Cernicky Senior Software Engineer Psychology Software Tools >> Hello all >> >> I keep getting an error when trying to run my programme and I don't know why >> it is occurring and what I need to do about it. >> >> In summary, in my paradigm participants see a series of increasingly intense >> facial emotion pictures 0, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% and so on). >> Participants have to press a response key as soon as they've decided what >> emotion is emerging. >> It works fine, apart from when participants don't make a response for that >> trial/series. >> Then I get this error message...... >> Run-time Error (Line 830) >> 11016: Application-defined or object-defined error >> >> And the script box highlights.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 12:33:52 2006 From: brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com (Brandon Cernicky) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 05:33:52 -0700 Subject: Just Run In-Reply-To: <44401.78052@mail.talkbank.org> Message-ID: Hi Ray, Others have replied showing what the command line switches are for E-Run. To assist with this, go to the E-Prime web support site in the downloads/misc area and download "E-Shortcut" which helps with creating these shortcuts and reduces the problems with long path names and quotes strings in the shortcut. -Brandon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brandon S. Cernicky Senior Software Engineer Psychology Software Tools >> Is there a way to just run an experiment? >> I mean instead of clicking the E-run file and then Build and then Run? >> What I'd like is something to click on and the experiment would then >> just start. Is there a command line way to that? If so, maybe we could >> make a shortcut to that or something? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Ray __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From uni at robertdoerr.de Fri Apr 7 13:06:44 2006 From: uni at robertdoerr.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Robert_D=F6rr?=) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:06:44 +0200 Subject: Just Run In-Reply-To: <6728E9270FDF8D44A41AF135DBB553E8065315DF@sumac.cfs.le.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hello Ray, You can use Tony's hint and make it default for all .ebs-files and their shortcuts. The following explanation could be a little bit fuzzy, because I am using a german Windows XP. So the labels of the menu items and buttons differ from my translation. First open an explorer window and look at the 'Extras' menu. There should be an entry labeled 'Folder options' or something like that (the bottom entry). By clicking, a new window apears where you can choose the 'File types' (???) tab. Find the ebs type, select it and click 'Advanced'. There you can edit the properties of the open action in the form "C:\Program Files\PST\E-Prime\Program\E-Run.exe" /m /a "%1" (just add /m /a without quotes). That's all. One step more is to create a new action (in my case called Run) and make it the default action. So you can double click to run the experiment and right click and selecting Open to open it. Best regards Robert Andrews, A.S. wrote: >Ray > >You need to create a desktop shortcut to E-Run and then edit the >properties so the Target line is in the form: > >"C:\Program Files\PST\E-Prime\Program\E-Run.exe" /m /a "path and >filename of .ebs script" > >Note all the quotes and spaces should be included. The /m switch means >run E-Run minimized (the user will never even see it if you don't crash >out of the experiment) and the /a means auto-run the specified script. > >HTH. > > >Regards, > >Tony. >-----Original Message----- >From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On >Behalf Of Sudevan, Padmanabhan >Sent: 05 April 2006 04:00 >To: rayv at uoregon.edu; eprime at mail.talkbank.org >Subject: RE: Just Run > > >Hello Ray, > >The way I have set things up in my lab is as follows: Once the >experiment is developed and ready to run, I simply copy the script ( >.ebs ) file to an appropriate folder on each of my four lab machines. >Then I create a shortcut using the procedure outlined in the E-Prime >User's Guide. This creates an icon that can be placed in a directory for >experiments, or even on the desktop of each machine if you wish. Once a >shortcut is set up, for future experiemtns, all you have to do is make a >copy, rename it for the new experiment, then change the Target and Start >In fields to incorporate the name of the new experiment. > >I hope this makes sense. > >P Sudevan > > >-----Original Message----- >From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org on behalf of Ray Vukcevich >Sent: Tue 4/4/2006 5:22 PM >To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org >Subject: Just Run > >Is there a way to just run an experiment? >I mean instead of clicking the E-run file and then Build and then Run? >What I'd like is something to click on and the experiment would then >just start. Is there a command line way to that? If so, maybe we could >make a shortcut to that or something? > >Thanks. > >Ray > >-- >Ray Vukcevich >University of Oregon > From mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk Wed Apr 12 15:22:10 2006 From: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk (Mariana Silva) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:22:10 +0100 Subject: E-prime and dual screen Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone know how to make the E-prime experiment run on the secondary screen when you use dual screen configuration? Thank you in advance. Mariana --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mariana M. Silva Research Fellow UCL Interaction Centre Room 4.05, Remax House 31/32 Alfred Place London WC1E 7DP UK Tel: +44 (0) 20 7679 5204 Fax: +44 (0)20 7679 5295 e-mail: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk From dhair at wfubmc.edu Wed Apr 12 15:36:07 2006 From: dhair at wfubmc.edu (David Hairston) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:36:07 -0400 Subject: E-prime and dual screen Message-ID: Yes, it is actually quite easy. The key is that the experiment will run on whichever monitor is designated as the "primary" within Windows. You can change this in the Display settings. We like to keep the E-Editor window with debugger open on the Secondary window, and use it to read output/results from the experiment. Really nice when you realize the subject is doing everything wrong, etc. -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf Of Mariana Silva Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:22 AM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: E-prime and dual screen Hi, Does anyone know how to make the E-prime experiment run on the secondary screen when you use dual screen configuration? Thank you in advance. Mariana ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------- Mariana M. Silva Research Fellow UCL Interaction Centre Room 4.05, Remax House 31/32 Alfred Place London WC1E 7DP UK Tel: +44 (0) 20 7679 5204 Fax: +44 (0)20 7679 5295 e-mail: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk From mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk Wed Apr 12 15:48:03 2006 From: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk (Mariana Silva) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:48:03 +0100 Subject: E-prime and dual screen Message-ID: Hi David, Thank you for your suggestion. I did change the monitors before. The problem is that I need the primary screen for another application. I assume E-prime will never work on the secondary screen, i.e. there is not a possible set of instructions to make it do that. Is this the case? Mariana ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hairston" To: "Mariana Silva" ; Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 4:36 PM Subject: RE: E-prime and dual screen Yes, it is actually quite easy. The key is that the experiment will run on whichever monitor is designated as the "primary" within Windows. You can change this in the Display settings. We like to keep the E-Editor window with debugger open on the Secondary window, and use it to read output/results from the experiment. Really nice when you realize the subject is doing everything wrong, etc. -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf Of Mariana Silva Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:22 AM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: E-prime and dual screen Hi, Does anyone know how to make the E-prime experiment run on the secondary screen when you use dual screen configuration? Thank you in advance. Mariana ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------- Mariana M. Silva Research Fellow UCL Interaction Centre Room 4.05, Remax House 31/32 Alfred Place London WC1E 7DP UK Tel: +44 (0) 20 7679 5204 Fax: +44 (0)20 7679 5295 e-mail: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk From dhair at wfubmc.edu Wed Apr 12 15:54:09 2006 From: dhair at wfubmc.edu (David Hairston) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:54:09 -0400 Subject: E-prime and dual screen Message-ID: There are some video cards and drivers that will allow you to play around with this. For example, we have used NVIDIA drivers' w/ a dual-head card to re-position certain windows. You can "train" it to open different programs, dialog boxes, and in some cases even certain "classes" to open on a specific monitor. Unfortunately I have not had luck getting this utility to work on the experimental window in E-prime, however. It seems to run "below" these drivers. However maybe somebody else has had better luck... and I have not tried recently w/ the latest drivers. -----Original Message----- From: Mariana Silva [mailto:mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:48 AM To: David Hairston; eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: Re: E-prime and dual screen Hi David, Thank you for your suggestion. I did change the monitors before. The problem is that I need the primary screen for another application. I assume E-prime will never work on the secondary screen, i.e. there is not a possible set of instructions to make it do that. Is this the case? Mariana ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hairston" To: "Mariana Silva" ; Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 4:36 PM Subject: RE: E-prime and dual screen Yes, it is actually quite easy. The key is that the experiment will run on whichever monitor is designated as the "primary" within Windows. You can change this in the Display settings. We like to keep the E-Editor window with debugger open on the Secondary window, and use it to read output/results from the experiment. Really nice when you realize the subject is doing everything wrong, etc. -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf Of Mariana Silva Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:22 AM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: E-prime and dual screen Hi, Does anyone know how to make the E-prime experiment run on the secondary screen when you use dual screen configuration? Thank you in advance. Mariana ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------- Mariana M. Silva Research Fellow UCL Interaction Centre Room 4.05, Remax House 31/32 Alfred Place London WC1E 7DP UK Tel: +44 (0) 20 7679 5204 Fax: +44 (0)20 7679 5295 e-mail: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk From golcud at mail.rockefeller.edu Thu Apr 13 14:25:35 2006 From: golcud at mail.rockefeller.edu (golcud at mail.rockefeller.edu) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:25:35 -0400 Subject: how to change experiment path according to response Message-ID: Hi. I have two slide objects in my experiment, and I am trying to make the second one appear only when the first one receives a specific response, and not when a different response is given. Any suggestions about how to achieve this most efficiently? Doruk From dcassenti at arl.army.mil Thu Apr 13 16:16:15 2006 From: dcassenti at arl.army.mil (Cassenti, Daniel (Govt, ARL/HRED)) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:16:15 -0400 Subject: how to change experiment path according to response Message-ID: Hi Doruk, Use an InLine object and a Label. It should look like this in your procedure: Slide1 InLine1 Slide2 Label1 Then put into InLine1: If Slide1.RESP <> "CorrectResponseString" then Goto Label1 End if So, in English: If the CorrectResponseString is not chosen as the response to Slide1, go to Label1, which is after Slide2 and therefore skips it. You don't need anything else because if there's no goto command then it will just move onto Slide2 on its own. Also if E-Prime runs into a label while enacting a procedure it will just skip it. Good Luck! Dan -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf Of golcud at mail.rockefeller.edu Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:26 AM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: how to change experiment path according to response Hi. I have two slide objects in my experiment, and I am trying to make the second one appear only when the first one receives a specific response, and not when a different response is given. Any suggestions about how to achieve this most efficiently? Doruk From macw at cmu.edu Thu Apr 13 20:34:00 2006 From: macw at cmu.edu (Brian MacWhinney) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:34:00 -0400 Subject: CMU Symposium Message-ID: "Embodiment, Ego-Space, and Action" The 34th Annual Carnegie Symposium on Cognition will be held June 2-4, 2006, at Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh. As conference organizers, we invite you to attend and also ask that you disseminate this announcement to your colleagues. Further details are available from our website: Please note that funding is available for junior scientists' travel and lodging expenses associated with attending the symposium. Interested applicants should send a brief statement of interest, a curriculum vitae, and one letter of recommendation by April 21, 2006 to Genevieve Placone . We would appreciate it if you could distribute this information to any interested individuals. Thank you for your help in publicizing the symposium. 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And again, and again… Each "complex stimuli" is composed of a picture that stays visible while 2 phrases appear and disappear, one after the other. Also, each one of those "complex stimuli" has two particular questions associated to it (which we'll ask when we get through the end of that "series" of complex stimuli). Therefore, I think it was necessary to give one row of the table to each "complex stimuli" (Pic - phrase 1 - phrase 2 - question 1 - question 2), so that the reference connection between the attributes wouldn't be lost. In 2.6.6.2 of the User Guide, there is a way to delay the 'TEST' sub- procedure until after the 'PRESENTATION' sub-procedure has finished running the list of samples (without losing that connection): You make one supra-ordinated list object listing two sub-procedures in an attribute column, and you bracket-reference that attribute name as the procedure of the list of stimuli. You build the sub-procedures in the unreferenced E-objects briefcase, and voila, one sub-procedure runs the list of stimuli, and then the second sub-procedure runs its own way the same list of stimuli. But I don't want it to run ALL the list of stimuli. Each cycle "presentation/test" must cover a SUB-group of the big list of -"complex"- stimuli. I have tried a lot of ways to create nested lists to break the big list of stimuli into various sub-lists, yet I don't happen to find the exact combination of nested lists and the 2.6.6.2 trick. Even so, I suppose this may be a common and probably basic need for most E-Prime users, and maybe you have a simple way to put me on track with this problem. I would very gladly receive any help.. Thank you a lot. Alberto Pacios University of La Laguna, Spain From antonio.pellicano at unipd.it Thu Apr 20 14:52:13 2006 From: antonio.pellicano at unipd.it (antonio.pellicano at unipd.it) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:52:13 +0200 Subject: touch-screen Experiment In-Reply-To: <54001.42882@mail.talkbank.org> Message-ID: dear All, I'm hardly trying to write a dual-choice-reaction-task using a touch-screen as a response device. The exeriment must collect Reaction Times and Movement Times from each trial. A single trial consist of a home box-square and two lateral target box-squares drown on the monitor display. Subects have to discriminate between two stimuli by releasing the index finger from the home box and touch the left or right target box. Releasig time will be the RT, while the interval between the release of the home box and the touch of the target box will be the MT. Is there anyone who is familiar with similar experimental designs? Is there anyone of you who interfaced a touch-screen device as a response device to E-Prime? Than you very much in advance A. Pellicano From r.l.c.mitchell at reading.ac.uk Tue Apr 4 14:43:31 2006 From: r.l.c.mitchell at reading.ac.uk (Rachel Mitchell) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:43:31 +0100 Subject: Jumps, labels and input masks Message-ID: Hello all I keep getting an error when trying to run my programme and I don't know why it is occurring and what I need to do about it. In summary, in my paradigm participants see a series of increasingly intense facial emotion pictures 0, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% and so on). Participants have to press a response key as soon as they've decided what emotion is emerging. It works fine, apart from when participants don't make a response for that trial/series. Then I get this error message...... Run-time Error (Line 830) 11016: Application-defined or object-defined error And the script box highlights.... '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ' Label - Label1 BEGIN '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Label1: If Err.Number = ebInputAccepted Then Err.Clear Resume Label1Resume ElseIf Err.Number <> 0 Then 'NOTE: If you receive a runtime error here, it ' is because a runtime error other than ebInputAccepted ' was thrown (ebInputAccepted for catching input masks that jump). 'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up ' your own error handler, which will also need to take ' into account for any input masks that jump. ' 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the message Err.Raise Err.Number End If Label1Resume: '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ' Label - Label1 END '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Can anyone tell me what I have done wrong and what I need to do to prevent the above? I should perhaps mention at this point, that I don't tend to use in-line script. As far as I know, I have the latest version (service pack 3) Hoping someone can help With best wishes Rachel Mitchell -------------------------------------------------------- Dr Rachel L. C. Mitchell. Lecturer in Cognitive Psychology, University of Reading. Honorary Research Fellow, Institute of Psychiatry. Research Psychologist, Berkshire Healthcare NHS Trust. Correspondence Address: School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences, Whiteknights Road University of Reading Reading Berkshire RG6 6AL Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8523 Direct Dial: +44 (0)118 378 7530 Fax: +44 (0)118 378 6715 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leisha at decisionresearch.org Tue Apr 4 17:01:39 2006 From: leisha at decisionresearch.org (Leisha Wharfield) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:01:39 -0700 Subject: Jumps, labels and input masks In-Reply-To: <008f01c657f6$261db410$16c7e186@psychology.rdg.ac.uk> Message-ID: How does your stimulus object end? Does it end by jumping somewhere, does it time out, or does it end when the subject inputs their response? Leisha Wharfield Decision Research Eugene, Oregon, USA Rachel Mitchell wrote: >Hello all > >I keep getting an error when trying to run my programme and I don't know why >it is occurring and what I need to do about it. > >In summary, in my paradigm participants see a series of increasingly intense >facial emotion pictures 0, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% and so on). >Participants have to press a response key as soon as they've decided what >emotion is emerging. >It works fine, apart from when participants don't make a response for that >trial/series. >Then I get this error message...... >Run-time Error (Line 830) >11016: Application-defined or object-defined error > >And the script box highlights.... > > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > ' Label - Label1 BEGIN > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > >Label1: > If Err.Number = ebInputAccepted Then > Err.Clear > Resume Label1Resume > ElseIf Err.Number <> 0 Then > 'NOTE: If you receive a runtime error here, it > ' is because a runtime error other than ebInputAccepted > ' was thrown (ebInputAccepted for catching input masks that >jump). > 'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that > ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up > ' your own error handler, which will also need to take > ' into account for any input masks that jump. > ' > 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the >message > Err.Raise Err.Number > End If > >Label1Resume: > > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > ' Label - Label1 END > > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >Can anyone tell me what I have done wrong and what I need to do to prevent >the above? >I should perhaps mention at this point, that I don't tend to use in-line >script. >As far as I know, I have the latest version (service pack 3) > >Hoping someone can help > >With best wishes >Rachel Mitchell > >-------------------------------------------------------- >Dr Rachel L. C. Mitchell. >Lecturer in Cognitive Psychology, University of Reading. >Honorary Research Fellow, Institute of Psychiatry. >Research Psychologist, Berkshire Healthcare NHS Trust. > >Correspondence Address: >School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences, >Whiteknights Road >University of Reading >Reading >Berkshire >RG6 6AL > >Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8523 >Direct Dial: +44 (0)118 378 7530 >Fax: +44 (0)118 378 6715 >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > From r.l.c.mitchell at reading.ac.uk Tue Apr 4 17:21:39 2006 From: r.l.c.mitchell at reading.ac.uk (Rachel Mitchell) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 18:21:39 +0100 Subject: Jumps, labels and input masks In-Reply-To: <4432A673.7020200@decisionresearch.org> Message-ID: Hi Leisha In the trial procedure line, there are separate slides straight after each other (1.5sec each) for 25% intensity, 50%, 75%, 100%, 125% and 150%. Participants are instructed to press the appropriate response key as the emotion evolves, as soon as they've made their mind up. Theoretically participants could have made their decision during any of these slides, so each one is programmed to jump to label1 following a response. Label1 is positioned at the end of the trial procedure line. After this is a 1.5sec wait screen for my ISI. The programme then goes back to the trial list (there is a single trial list on the session procedure line, with no block lists) and randomly selects another trial/series. I just tried making the response time infinite for the 150% screen to force them to respond, but I got the same error after a while (although at least the programme got a little further this time!). Someone kindly suggested the problem was because the jump command didn't know what to do if participants didn't respond - and suggested I try and incorporate a feedback screen, remove all text from it, and set the input object name to the stimulus. I tried setting it to the last screen (the 150%), but this didn't work (I'm not quite sure I was interpreting their suggestion correctly though, or that I had described my task sufficiently). This task is being used for a patient study and we have so little time left I am very grateful to those who have responded. Does the further description above give you any ideas Leisha? With best wishes Rachel -------------------------------------------------------- Dr Rachel L. C. Mitchell. Lecturer in Cognitive Psychology, University of Reading. Honorary Research Fellow, Institute of Psychiatry. Research Psychologist, Berkshire Healthcare NHS Trust. Correspondence Address: School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences, Whiteknights Road University of Reading Reading Berkshire RG6 6AL Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8523 Direct Dial: +44 (0)118 378 7530 Fax: +44 (0)118 378 6715 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf Of Leisha Wharfield Sent: 04 April 2006 18:02 Cc: Eprime mailing list Subject: Re: Jumps, labels and input masks How does your stimulus object end? Does it end by jumping somewhere, does it time out, or does it end when the subject inputs their response? Leisha Wharfield Decision Research Eugene, Oregon, USA Rachel Mitchell wrote: >Hello all > >I keep getting an error when trying to run my programme and I don't >know why it is occurring and what I need to do about it. > >In summary, in my paradigm participants see a series of increasingly >intense facial emotion pictures 0, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% and so on). >Participants have to press a response key as soon as they've decided >what emotion is emerging. >It works fine, apart from when participants don't make a response for >that trial/series. >Then I get this error message...... >Run-time Error (Line 830) >11016: Application-defined or object-defined error > >And the script box highlights.... > > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > ' Label - Label1 BEGIN > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > >Label1: > If Err.Number = ebInputAccepted Then > Err.Clear > Resume Label1Resume > ElseIf Err.Number <> 0 Then > 'NOTE: If you receive a runtime error here, it > ' is because a runtime error other than ebInputAccepted > ' was thrown (ebInputAccepted for catching input masks that jump). > 'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that > ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up > ' your own error handler, which will also need to take > ' into account for any input masks that jump. > ' > 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the message > Err.Raise Err.Number > End If > >Label1Resume: > > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > ' Label - Label1 END > > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >Can anyone tell me what I have done wrong and what I need to do to >prevent the above? >I should perhaps mention at this point, that I don't tend to use >in-line script. >As far as I know, I have the latest version (service pack 3) > >Hoping someone can help > >With best wishes >Rachel Mitchell > >-------------------------------------------------------- >Dr Rachel L. C. Mitchell. >Lecturer in Cognitive Psychology, University of Reading. >Honorary Research Fellow, Institute of Psychiatry. >Research Psychologist, Berkshire Healthcare NHS Trust. > >Correspondence Address: >School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences, Whiteknights Road >University of Reading Reading Berkshire >RG6 6AL > >Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8523 >Direct Dial: +44 (0)118 378 7530 >Fax: +44 (0)118 378 6715 >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > From uni at robertdoerr.de Tue Apr 4 18:18:39 2006 From: uni at robertdoerr.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Robert_D=F6rr?=) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:18:39 +0200 Subject: Jumps, labels and input masks In-Reply-To: <00a701c6580c$3c20c430$16c7e186@psychology.rdg.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Rachel, Unfortunately, I am not able to reproduce your error. It must be something specific to your experiment. What you can try as a 'quick and dirty' workaround is the following: Set your slides' end action to terminate (not to jump). After each slide you put an short inline script containing this code: if TextDisplay1.RT <> 0 then goto Label1 else TextDisplay1 should be replaced by the appropriate slide name. I am not sure if this solves your problem, because I cannot test it. Best wishes Robert D?rr Rachel Mitchell wrote: >Hi Leisha > >In the trial procedure line, there are separate slides straight after each >other (1.5sec each) for 25% intensity, 50%, 75%, 100%, 125% and 150%. >Participants are instructed to press the appropriate response key as the >emotion evolves, as soon as they've made their mind up. >Theoretically participants could have made their decision during any of >these slides, so each one is programmed to jump to label1 following a >response. >Label1 is positioned at the end of the trial procedure line. >After this is a 1.5sec wait screen for my ISI. >The programme then goes back to the trial list (there is a single trial list >on the session procedure line, with no block lists) and randomly selects >another trial/series. > >I just tried making the response time infinite for the 150% screen to force >them to respond, but I got the same error after a while (although at least >the programme got a little further this time!). > >Someone kindly suggested the problem was because the jump command didn't >know what to do if participants didn't respond - and suggested I try and >incorporate a feedback screen, remove all text from it, and set the input >object name to the stimulus. >I tried setting it to the last screen (the 150%), but this didn't work (I'm >not quite sure I was interpreting their suggestion correctly though, or that >I had described my task sufficiently). > >This task is being used for a patient study and we have so little time left >I am very grateful to those who have responded. >Does the further description above give you any ideas Leisha? > >With best wishes >Rachel > > >-------------------------------------------------------- >Dr Rachel L. C. Mitchell. >Lecturer in Cognitive Psychology, University of Reading. >Honorary Research Fellow, Institute of Psychiatry. >Research Psychologist, Berkshire Healthcare NHS Trust. > >Correspondence Address: >School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences, >Whiteknights Road >University of Reading >Reading >Berkshire >RG6 6AL > >Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8523 >Direct Dial: +44 (0)118 378 7530 >Fax: +44 (0)118 378 6715 >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >-----Original Message----- >From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf >Of Leisha Wharfield >Sent: 04 April 2006 18:02 >Cc: Eprime mailing list >Subject: Re: Jumps, labels and input masks > >How does your stimulus object end? Does it end by jumping somewhere, does it >time out, or does it end when the subject inputs their response? > >Leisha Wharfield >Decision Research >Eugene, Oregon, USA > >Rachel Mitchell wrote: > > > >>Hello all >> >>I keep getting an error when trying to run my programme and I don't >>know why it is occurring and what I need to do about it. >> >>In summary, in my paradigm participants see a series of increasingly >>intense facial emotion pictures 0, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% and so on). >>Participants have to press a response key as soon as they've decided >>what emotion is emerging. >>It works fine, apart from when participants don't make a response for >>that trial/series. >>Then I get this error message...... >>Run-time Error (Line 830) >>11016: Application-defined or object-defined error >> >>And the script box highlights.... >> >> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >> ' Label - Label1 BEGIN >> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >> >>Label1: >> If Err.Number = ebInputAccepted Then >> Err.Clear >> Resume Label1Resume >> ElseIf Err.Number <> 0 Then >> 'NOTE: If you receive a runtime error here, it >> ' is because a runtime error other than ebInputAccepted >> ' was thrown (ebInputAccepted for catching input masks that >> >> >jump). > > >> 'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that >> ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up >> ' your own error handler, which will also need to take >> ' into account for any input masks that jump. >> ' >> 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the >> >> >message > > >> Err.Raise Err.Number >> End If >> >>Label1Resume: >> >> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >> ' Label - Label1 END >> >> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >>Can anyone tell me what I have done wrong and what I need to do to >>prevent the above? >>I should perhaps mention at this point, that I don't tend to use >>in-line script. >>As far as I know, I have the latest version (service pack 3) >> >>Hoping someone can help >> >>With best wishes >>Rachel Mitchell >> >>-------------------------------------------------------- >>Dr Rachel L. C. Mitchell. >>Lecturer in Cognitive Psychology, University of Reading. >>Honorary Research Fellow, Institute of Psychiatry. >>Research Psychologist, Berkshire Healthcare NHS Trust. >> >>Correspondence Address: >>School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences, Whiteknights Road >>University of Reading Reading Berkshire >>RG6 6AL >> >>Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8523 >>Direct Dial: +44 (0)118 378 7530 >>Fax: +44 (0)118 378 6715 >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> From uni at robertdoerr.de Tue Apr 4 20:23:41 2006 From: uni at robertdoerr.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Robert_D=F6rr?=) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 22:23:41 +0200 Subject: Jumps, labels and input masks [Typo correction] In-Reply-To: <4432B87F.4060703@robertdoerr.de> Message-ID: The code should be: if TextDisplay1.RT <> 0 then goto Label1 end if Robert D?rr wrote: > Hi Rachel, > > Unfortunately, I am not able to reproduce your error. It must be > something specific to your experiment. > What you can try as a 'quick and dirty' workaround is the following: > Set your slides' end action to terminate (not to jump). After each slide > you put an short inline script containing this code: > > if TextDisplay1.RT <> 0 then > goto Label1 > else > > TextDisplay1 should be replaced by the appropriate slide name. > > I am not sure if this solves your problem, because I cannot test it. > > Best wishes > Robert D?rr > > > Rachel Mitchell wrote: > >> Hi Leisha >> >> In the trial procedure line, there are separate slides straight after >> each >> other (1.5sec each) for 25% intensity, 50%, 75%, 100%, 125% and 150%. >> Participants are instructed to press the appropriate response key as the >> emotion evolves, as soon as they've made their mind up. >> Theoretically participants could have made their decision during any of >> these slides, so each one is programmed to jump to label1 following a >> response. >> Label1 is positioned at the end of the trial procedure line. >> After this is a 1.5sec wait screen for my ISI. >> The programme then goes back to the trial list (there is a single >> trial list >> on the session procedure line, with no block lists) and randomly selects >> another trial/series. >> >> I just tried making the response time infinite for the 150% screen to >> force >> them to respond, but I got the same error after a while (although at >> least >> the programme got a little further this time!). >> >> Someone kindly suggested the problem was because the jump command didn't >> know what to do if participants didn't respond - and suggested I try and >> incorporate a feedback screen, remove all text from it, and set the >> input >> object name to the stimulus. I tried setting it to the last screen >> (the 150%), but this didn't work (I'm >> not quite sure I was interpreting their suggestion correctly though, >> or that >> I had described my task sufficiently). >> >> This task is being used for a patient study and we have so little >> time left >> I am very grateful to those who have responded. >> Does the further description above give you any ideas Leisha? >> >> With best wishes >> Rachel >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> Dr Rachel L. C. Mitchell. >> Lecturer in Cognitive Psychology, University of Reading. >> Honorary Research Fellow, Institute of Psychiatry. >> Research Psychologist, Berkshire Healthcare NHS Trust. >> >> Correspondence Address: >> School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences, >> Whiteknights Road >> University of Reading >> Reading >> Berkshire >> RG6 6AL >> >> Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8523 >> Direct Dial: +44 (0)118 378 7530 >> Fax: +44 (0)118 378 6715 >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On >> Behalf >> Of Leisha Wharfield >> Sent: 04 April 2006 18:02 >> Cc: Eprime mailing list >> Subject: Re: Jumps, labels and input masks >> >> How does your stimulus object end? Does it end by jumping somewhere, >> does it >> time out, or does it end when the subject inputs their response? >> >> Leisha Wharfield >> Decision Research >> Eugene, Oregon, USA >> >> Rachel Mitchell wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hello all >>> >>> I keep getting an error when trying to run my programme and I don't >>> know why it is occurring and what I need to do about it. >>> >>> In summary, in my paradigm participants see a series of increasingly >>> intense facial emotion pictures 0, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% and so on). >>> Participants have to press a response key as soon as they've decided >>> what emotion is emerging. >>> It works fine, apart from when participants don't make a response >>> for that trial/series. >>> Then I get this error message...... >>> Run-time Error (Line 830) >>> 11016: Application-defined or object-defined error >>> >>> And the script box highlights.... >>> >>> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >>> >>> ' Label - Label1 BEGIN >>> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >>> >>> >>> Label1: >>> If Err.Number = ebInputAccepted Then >>> Err.Clear >>> Resume Label1Resume >>> ElseIf Err.Number <> 0 Then >>> 'NOTE: If you receive a runtime error here, it >>> ' is because a runtime error other than ebInputAccepted >>> ' was thrown (ebInputAccepted for catching input masks that >>> >> >> jump). >> >> >>> 'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that >>> ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up >>> ' your own error handler, which will also need to take >>> ' into account for any input masks that jump. >>> ' >>> 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the >>> >> >> message >> >> >>> Err.Raise Err.Number >>> End If >>> >>> Label1Resume: >>> >>> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >>> >>> ' Label - Label1 END >>> >>> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >>> >>> Can anyone tell me what I have done wrong and what I need to do to >>> prevent the above? >>> I should perhaps mention at this point, that I don't tend to use >>> in-line script. >>> As far as I know, I have the latest version (service pack 3) >>> >>> Hoping someone can help >>> >>> With best wishes >>> Rachel Mitchell >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------- >>> Dr Rachel L. C. Mitchell. >>> Lecturer in Cognitive Psychology, University of Reading. >>> Honorary Research Fellow, Institute of Psychiatry. >>> Research Psychologist, Berkshire Healthcare NHS Trust. >>> >>> Correspondence Address: >>> School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences, Whiteknights >>> Road University of Reading Reading Berkshire >>> RG6 6AL >>> >>> Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8523 >>> Direct Dial: +44 (0)118 378 7530 >>> Fax: +44 (0)118 378 6715 >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > > > From rayv at uoregon.edu Tue Apr 4 22:22:20 2006 From: rayv at uoregon.edu (Ray Vukcevich) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:22:20 -0700 Subject: Just Run Message-ID: Is there a way to just run an experiment? I mean instead of clicking the E-run file and then Build and then Run? What I'd like is something to click on and the experiment would then just start. Is there a command line way to that? If so, maybe we could make a shortcut to that or something? Thanks. Ray -- Ray Vukcevich University of Oregon From leisha at decisionresearch.org Tue Apr 4 22:58:41 2006 From: leisha at decisionresearch.org (Leisha Wharfield) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:58:41 -0700 Subject: Quick launch experiments Message-ID: Hi, Is there an easier way to launch an experiment than to open the *.ebs file, then either choose Run off the Build menu or press F7? Just a double-click shortcut is I think what our friend is looking for. Thanks, Leisha Wharfield Decision Research Eugene, Oregon, USA From psudevan at uwsp.edu Wed Apr 5 03:00:16 2006 From: psudevan at uwsp.edu (Sudevan, Padmanabhan) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 22:00:16 -0500 Subject: Just Run Message-ID: Hello Ray, The way I have set things up in my lab is as follows: Once the experiment is developed and ready to run, I simply copy the script ( .ebs ) file to an appropriate folder on each of my four lab machines. Then I create a shortcut using the procedure outlined in the E-Prime User's Guide. This creates an icon that can be placed in a directory for experiments, or even on the desktop of each machine if you wish. Once a shortcut is set up, for future experiemtns, all you have to do is make a copy, rename it for the new experiment, then change the Target and Start In fields to incorporate the name of the new experiment. I hope this makes sense. P Sudevan -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org on behalf of Ray Vukcevich Sent: Tue 4/4/2006 5:22 PM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: Just Run Is there a way to just run an experiment? I mean instead of clicking the E-run file and then Build and then Run? What I'd like is something to click on and the experiment would then just start. Is there a command line way to that? If so, maybe we could make a shortcut to that or something? Thanks. Ray -- Ray Vukcevich University of Oregon From asa8 at leicester.ac.uk Wed Apr 5 07:44:19 2006 From: asa8 at leicester.ac.uk (Andrews, A.S.) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:44:19 +0100 Subject: Just Run Message-ID: Ray You need to create a desktop shortcut to E-Run and then edit the properties so the Target line is in the form: "C:\Program Files\PST\E-Prime\Program\E-Run.exe" /m /a "path and filename of .ebs script" Note all the quotes and spaces should be included. The /m switch means run E-Run minimized (the user will never even see it if you don't crash out of the experiment) and the /a means auto-run the specified script. HTH. Regards, Tony. -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf Of Sudevan, Padmanabhan Sent: 05 April 2006 04:00 To: rayv at uoregon.edu; eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: RE: Just Run Hello Ray, The way I have set things up in my lab is as follows: Once the experiment is developed and ready to run, I simply copy the script ( .ebs ) file to an appropriate folder on each of my four lab machines. Then I create a shortcut using the procedure outlined in the E-Prime User's Guide. This creates an icon that can be placed in a directory for experiments, or even on the desktop of each machine if you wish. Once a shortcut is set up, for future experiemtns, all you have to do is make a copy, rename it for the new experiment, then change the Target and Start In fields to incorporate the name of the new experiment. I hope this makes sense. P Sudevan -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org on behalf of Ray Vukcevich Sent: Tue 4/4/2006 5:22 PM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: Just Run Is there a way to just run an experiment? I mean instead of clicking the E-run file and then Build and then Run? What I'd like is something to click on and the experiment would then just start. Is there a command line way to that? If so, maybe we could make a shortcut to that or something? Thanks. Ray -- Ray Vukcevich University of Oregon From jared.smith at reading.ac.uk Wed Apr 5 10:22:11 2006 From: jared.smith at reading.ac.uk (Jared G. Smith) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:22:11 +0100 Subject: Line bisection experiment in E-prime Message-ID: Hi there, I am beginning to construct a variant of the line bisection paradigm using E-prime. Not being experienced in the use of scripts, I was hoping someone might be willing to share a script for this type of task or perhaps point me in the right direction so as to design a task in which for each trial a cursor can be moved left or right according to a keypress and at the finish of each trial (signified by pressing ) the spatial coordinates of the cursor are logged. I would be very appreciative of any help with this matter. Best Wishes, Dr Jared G Smith School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences University of Reading Earley Gate Reading UK RG6 6AL E-mail: jared.smith at reading.ac.uk From pkieffab at indiana.edu Wed Apr 5 11:28:11 2006 From: pkieffab at indiana.edu (Paul Kieffaber) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 06:28:11 -0500 Subject: Just Run In-Reply-To: <2E53F217D30BB54B806304C2D519967E03C3FBC6@ems6.uwsp.edu> Message-ID: Ray, I have used a free, open-source utility called AutoHotkey (http://www.autohotkey.com/). With it, you can write simple scripts to run the .ebs file and automate keystrokes such as F7 or subject numbers etc. You can even create forms and store data so that you can collect demographics and then have the .ebs file run automatically when the person submits their demographic info. Paul -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf Of Sudevan, Padmanabhan Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 10:00 PM To: rayv at uoregon.edu; eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: RE: Just Run Hello Ray, The way I have set things up in my lab is as follows: Once the experiment is developed and ready to run, I simply copy the script ( .ebs ) file to an appropriate folder on each of my four lab machines. Then I create a shortcut using the procedure outlined in the E-Prime User's Guide. This creates an icon that can be placed in a directory for experiments, or even on the desktop of each machine if you wish. Once a shortcut is set up, for future experiemtns, all you have to do is make a copy, rename it for the new experiment, then change the Target and Start In fields to incorporate the name of the new experiment. I hope this makes sense. P Sudevan -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org on behalf of Ray Vukcevich Sent: Tue 4/4/2006 5:22 PM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: Just Run Is there a way to just run an experiment? I mean instead of clicking the E-run file and then Build and then Run? What I'd like is something to click on and the experiment would then just start. Is there a command line way to that? If so, maybe we could make a shortcut to that or something? Thanks. Ray -- Ray Vukcevich University of Oregon From rayv at uoregon.edu Wed Apr 5 17:12:47 2006 From: rayv at uoregon.edu (Ray Vukcevich) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 10:12:47 -0700 Subject: Just Run Message-ID: Thanks everyone. I'll give all of your excellent suggestions a try. The researcher in question was just concerned about making the experiments run easily with as few ways for things to go wrong as possible for the RAa. Ray Paul Kieffaber wrote: > Ray, > I have used a free, open-source utility called AutoHotkey > (http://www.autohotkey.com/). With it, you can write simple scripts to run > the .ebs file and automate keystrokes such as F7 or subject numbers etc. > You can even create forms and store data so that you can collect > demographics and then have the .ebs file run automatically when the person > submits their demographic info. > > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf > Of Sudevan, Padmanabhan > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 10:00 PM > To: rayv at uoregon.edu; eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: RE: Just Run > > > Hello Ray, > > The way I have set things up in my lab is as follows: Once the experiment is > developed and ready to run, I simply copy the script ( .ebs ) file to an > appropriate folder on each of my four lab machines. Then I create a shortcut > using the procedure outlined in the E-Prime User's Guide. This creates an > icon that can be placed in a directory for experiments, or even on the > desktop of each machine if you wish. Once a shortcut is set up, for future > experiemtns, all you have to do is make a copy, rename it for the new > experiment, then change the Target and Start In fields to incorporate the > name of the new experiment. > > I hope this makes sense. > > P Sudevan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org on behalf of Ray Vukcevich > Sent: Tue 4/4/2006 5:22 PM > To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org > Subject: Just Run > > Is there a way to just run an experiment? > I mean instead of clicking the E-run file and then Build and then Run? > What I'd like is something to click on and the experiment would then > just start. Is there a command line way to that? If so, maybe we could > make a shortcut to that or something? > > Thanks. > > Ray > -- Ray Vukcevich MEET ME IN THE MOON ROOM. http://www.lcrw.net/rayvukcevich/ Other stuff. http://www.sff.net/people/RayV/ From brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 13:01:34 2006 From: brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com (Brandon Cernicky) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 06:01:34 -0700 Subject: XP Start Menu trick In-Reply-To: <44401.78052@mail.talkbank.org> Message-ID: Hi Leisha, Many in the group have already responded with how to use MSCONFIG, but I wanted every one to know that the EP knowledge base has an article in relation to this. http://www.pstnet.com/e-prime/support/kb.asp?TopicID=2621 More importantly, there are times when users are finding that a background application is causing a conflict. Using MSCONFIG in the barebones mode allows for E-Prime to run. The only method to determine what the conflict app is via brute force by checking an item, reboot, see if the problem occurs. If anyone finds an application that is in conflict with an E-Prime experiment run, please report this to PST and the group. BTW Leisha, I am the one who put the skull/crossbones icon in the Procedure when there is a bad reference ;-) -Brandon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brandon S. Cernicky Senior Software Engineer Psychology Software Tools __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 13:04:45 2006 From: brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com (Brandon Cernicky) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 06:04:45 -0700 Subject: Quick launch experiments In-Reply-To: <44401.78052@mail.talkbank.org> Message-ID: Hi Leisha, E-Run has the ability to automatically run via some command line switches. Specifying these command line switches (/a to autorun) can be tedious due to how long path names are and dealing with quoted strings on long path names. I would recommend contacting PST support and asking about these command line options but more beneficial for the "E-Shortcut" application which will make the shortcut on your desktop for you. -Brandon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brandon S. Cernicky Senior Software Engineer Psychology Software Tools >> Hi, >> >> Is there an easier way to launch an experiment than to open the *.ebs >> file, then either choose Run off the Build menu or press F7? Just a >> double-click shortcut is I think what our friend is looking for. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Leisha Wharfield >> Decision Research >> Eugene, Oregon, USA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From r.l.c.mitchell at reading.ac.uk Thu Apr 6 13:18:42 2006 From: r.l.c.mitchell at reading.ac.uk (Rachel Mitchell) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:18:42 +0100 Subject: FW: Cool Cat Message-ID: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Teresa Young [mailto:t.a.young at reading.ac.uk] Sent: 06 April 2006 14:13 To: Rachel Mitchell; Patricia Riddell; Graham Schafer; Emily Farran; Carmel Houston-Price Subject: Cool Cat Cool Black Cat with Green Eyes (click link below) to see something awesome! There are some great code writers out there! If you tease her with the mouse pointer on her chest or stomach she will purr, I got her to meow also, by rubbing her forehead with the pointer. If you make a slow circle around her body, (counter-clockwise) not only will her head/eyes follow your pointer, but toward the top, her paw will go up, and when in front of her paws at the bottom, her foot comes out like she wants to play with your mouse pointer. (Don't hold the mouse down, just move it) http://www.broenink-art.nl/maukie2.swf -- From r.l.c.mitchell at reading.ac.uk Thu Apr 6 13:25:58 2006 From: r.l.c.mitchell at reading.ac.uk (Rachel Mitchell) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:25:58 +0100 Subject: APOLOGIES!!! In-Reply-To: <003301c6597c$a650d590$16c7e186@psychology.rdg.ac.uk> Message-ID: Distribution of that last email was an error. My sincerest apologies. Rachel From mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk Thu Apr 6 16:47:24 2006 From: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk (Mariana Silva) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:47:24 +0100 Subject: Mouse click position Message-ID: Hi Does anyone have a script that will register where in the screen the mouse click occurred? Many thanks Mariana --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mariana M. Silva Research Fellow UCL Interaction Centre Room 4.05, Remax House 31/32 Alfred Place London WC1E 7DP UK Tel: +44 (0) 20 7679 5204 Fax: +44 (0)20 7679 5295 e-mail: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk From michael.crowley at yale.edu Thu Apr 6 18:17:10 2006 From: michael.crowley at yale.edu (michael.crowley at yale.edu) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:17:10 -0400 Subject: Mouse click position In-Reply-To: <007101c65999$c8a80240$f89e2880@MarianaSilva> Message-ID: Mariana, the eprime website has an example with the code for this application. just modifiy the code to suit your needs. best, Mike Quoting Mariana Silva : > Hi > > Does anyone have a script that will register where in the screen the mouse > click occurred? > Many thanks > > Mariana > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mariana M. Silva > Research Fellow > UCL Interaction Centre > Room 4.05, Remax House > 31/32 Alfred Place > London WC1E 7DP > UK > Tel: +44 (0) 20 7679 5204 > Fax: +44 (0)20 7679 5295 > e-mail: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk > > > > Please be aware that email communication can be intercepted in transmission or misdirected. Please consider communicating any sensitive information by telephone, fax or mail. The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If you are NOT the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately with a copy to hipaa.security at yale.edu and destroy this message. From brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 12:31:23 2006 From: brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com (Brandon Cernicky) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 05:31:23 -0700 Subject: Jumps, labels and input masks In-Reply-To: <44401.78052@mail.talkbank.org> Message-ID: Hi Rachel, E-Prime allows for jumping to occur by throwing a runtime error -998 "Input Accepted". The Label object generates code which sets up an E-Basic error handler to trap the "Input Accepted" runtime error when a jump occurs so that the experiment can continue properly. If any other error occurs (see below), the error handler from the Label is not able to handle this and just throws/raises the error again. Thus you get the "application defined" error. Ultimately, another runtime error is occuring. Many times this is in regards to an object referencing an [attrib] value that doesn't exist. To find out what the error is, you can do one of the following: 1) Instead of using the Label, drop the following code below in an InLine. This inline generates the exact same code a Label does with the exception of the .Raise call providing more information which will show what the verbose error is. It will not indicate where the error occurs, but if the error is "[Stimulus1] cannot be resolved" then you can narrow it down. '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ' Label - Label1 BEGIN '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Label1: If Err.Number = ebInputAccepted Then Err.Clear Resume Label1Resume ElseIf Err.Number <> 0 Then 'NOTE: If you receive a runtime error here, it ' is because a runtime error other than ebInputAccepted ' was thrown (ebInputAccepted for catching input masks that jump). 'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up ' your own error handler, which will also need to take ' into account for any input masks that jump. ' 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the message Err.Raise Err.Number, Err.Source, Err.Description End If Label1Resume: '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ' Label - Label1 END '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' On Error GoTo 0 2) Use the Label object in E-Prime 1.2 (soon to be released) which generates the code above in the Label. 3) Remove your label and reference to the label in the text/slide object. This will tempoarily not permit your intended execution of the paradigm to occur, but w/o the error handlers being in there, the outside error will be handled by the default error handler and more verbose information and where it is occurring can be obtained. 4) Attach your experiment to a Web Support ticket in E-Prime Web Support and one of the tech consultants will be happy to assist. Another item that must be mentioned is that error handlers whether done through the Label object or in custom InLine are set from the time the "On Error" call is executed until the next time an "On Error" is executed again or the procedure ends. This means that if a runtime error occurs AFTER your label it will jump BACKWARDS. This can be remedied by placing On Error GoTo 0 in an InLine just after your label or by setting up another Label object and setting its name in the Duration/Input tab of an object that appears after the original label. -Brandon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brandon S. Cernicky Senior Software Engineer Psychology Software Tools >> Hello all >> >> I keep getting an error when trying to run my programme and I don't know why >> it is occurring and what I need to do about it. >> >> In summary, in my paradigm participants see a series of increasingly intense >> facial emotion pictures 0, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% and so on). >> Participants have to press a response key as soon as they've decided what >> emotion is emerging. >> It works fine, apart from when participants don't make a response for that >> trial/series. >> Then I get this error message...... >> Run-time Error (Line 830) >> 11016: Application-defined or object-defined error >> >> And the script box highlights.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 12:33:52 2006 From: brandon_cernicky at yahoo.com (Brandon Cernicky) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 05:33:52 -0700 Subject: Just Run In-Reply-To: <44401.78052@mail.talkbank.org> Message-ID: Hi Ray, Others have replied showing what the command line switches are for E-Run. To assist with this, go to the E-Prime web support site in the downloads/misc area and download "E-Shortcut" which helps with creating these shortcuts and reduces the problems with long path names and quotes strings in the shortcut. -Brandon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brandon S. Cernicky Senior Software Engineer Psychology Software Tools >> Is there a way to just run an experiment? >> I mean instead of clicking the E-run file and then Build and then Run? >> What I'd like is something to click on and the experiment would then >> just start. Is there a command line way to that? If so, maybe we could >> make a shortcut to that or something? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Ray __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From uni at robertdoerr.de Fri Apr 7 13:06:44 2006 From: uni at robertdoerr.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Robert_D=F6rr?=) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:06:44 +0200 Subject: Just Run In-Reply-To: <6728E9270FDF8D44A41AF135DBB553E8065315DF@sumac.cfs.le.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hello Ray, You can use Tony's hint and make it default for all .ebs-files and their shortcuts. The following explanation could be a little bit fuzzy, because I am using a german Windows XP. So the labels of the menu items and buttons differ from my translation. First open an explorer window and look at the 'Extras' menu. There should be an entry labeled 'Folder options' or something like that (the bottom entry). By clicking, a new window apears where you can choose the 'File types' (???) tab. Find the ebs type, select it and click 'Advanced'. There you can edit the properties of the open action in the form "C:\Program Files\PST\E-Prime\Program\E-Run.exe" /m /a "%1" (just add /m /a without quotes). That's all. One step more is to create a new action (in my case called Run) and make it the default action. So you can double click to run the experiment and right click and selecting Open to open it. Best regards Robert Andrews, A.S. wrote: >Ray > >You need to create a desktop shortcut to E-Run and then edit the >properties so the Target line is in the form: > >"C:\Program Files\PST\E-Prime\Program\E-Run.exe" /m /a "path and >filename of .ebs script" > >Note all the quotes and spaces should be included. The /m switch means >run E-Run minimized (the user will never even see it if you don't crash >out of the experiment) and the /a means auto-run the specified script. > >HTH. > > >Regards, > >Tony. >-----Original Message----- >From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On >Behalf Of Sudevan, Padmanabhan >Sent: 05 April 2006 04:00 >To: rayv at uoregon.edu; eprime at mail.talkbank.org >Subject: RE: Just Run > > >Hello Ray, > >The way I have set things up in my lab is as follows: Once the >experiment is developed and ready to run, I simply copy the script ( >.ebs ) file to an appropriate folder on each of my four lab machines. >Then I create a shortcut using the procedure outlined in the E-Prime >User's Guide. This creates an icon that can be placed in a directory for >experiments, or even on the desktop of each machine if you wish. Once a >shortcut is set up, for future experiemtns, all you have to do is make a >copy, rename it for the new experiment, then change the Target and Start >In fields to incorporate the name of the new experiment. > >I hope this makes sense. > >P Sudevan > > >-----Original Message----- >From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org on behalf of Ray Vukcevich >Sent: Tue 4/4/2006 5:22 PM >To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org >Subject: Just Run > >Is there a way to just run an experiment? >I mean instead of clicking the E-run file and then Build and then Run? >What I'd like is something to click on and the experiment would then >just start. Is there a command line way to that? If so, maybe we could >make a shortcut to that or something? > >Thanks. > >Ray > >-- >Ray Vukcevich >University of Oregon > From mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk Wed Apr 12 15:22:10 2006 From: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk (Mariana Silva) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:22:10 +0100 Subject: E-prime and dual screen Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone know how to make the E-prime experiment run on the secondary screen when you use dual screen configuration? Thank you in advance. Mariana --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mariana M. Silva Research Fellow UCL Interaction Centre Room 4.05, Remax House 31/32 Alfred Place London WC1E 7DP UK Tel: +44 (0) 20 7679 5204 Fax: +44 (0)20 7679 5295 e-mail: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk From dhair at wfubmc.edu Wed Apr 12 15:36:07 2006 From: dhair at wfubmc.edu (David Hairston) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:36:07 -0400 Subject: E-prime and dual screen Message-ID: Yes, it is actually quite easy. The key is that the experiment will run on whichever monitor is designated as the "primary" within Windows. You can change this in the Display settings. We like to keep the E-Editor window with debugger open on the Secondary window, and use it to read output/results from the experiment. Really nice when you realize the subject is doing everything wrong, etc. -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf Of Mariana Silva Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:22 AM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: E-prime and dual screen Hi, Does anyone know how to make the E-prime experiment run on the secondary screen when you use dual screen configuration? Thank you in advance. Mariana ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------- Mariana M. Silva Research Fellow UCL Interaction Centre Room 4.05, Remax House 31/32 Alfred Place London WC1E 7DP UK Tel: +44 (0) 20 7679 5204 Fax: +44 (0)20 7679 5295 e-mail: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk From mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk Wed Apr 12 15:48:03 2006 From: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk (Mariana Silva) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:48:03 +0100 Subject: E-prime and dual screen Message-ID: Hi David, Thank you for your suggestion. I did change the monitors before. The problem is that I need the primary screen for another application. I assume E-prime will never work on the secondary screen, i.e. there is not a possible set of instructions to make it do that. Is this the case? Mariana ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hairston" To: "Mariana Silva" ; Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 4:36 PM Subject: RE: E-prime and dual screen Yes, it is actually quite easy. The key is that the experiment will run on whichever monitor is designated as the "primary" within Windows. You can change this in the Display settings. We like to keep the E-Editor window with debugger open on the Secondary window, and use it to read output/results from the experiment. Really nice when you realize the subject is doing everything wrong, etc. -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf Of Mariana Silva Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:22 AM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: E-prime and dual screen Hi, Does anyone know how to make the E-prime experiment run on the secondary screen when you use dual screen configuration? Thank you in advance. Mariana ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------- Mariana M. Silva Research Fellow UCL Interaction Centre Room 4.05, Remax House 31/32 Alfred Place London WC1E 7DP UK Tel: +44 (0) 20 7679 5204 Fax: +44 (0)20 7679 5295 e-mail: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk From dhair at wfubmc.edu Wed Apr 12 15:54:09 2006 From: dhair at wfubmc.edu (David Hairston) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:54:09 -0400 Subject: E-prime and dual screen Message-ID: There are some video cards and drivers that will allow you to play around with this. For example, we have used NVIDIA drivers' w/ a dual-head card to re-position certain windows. You can "train" it to open different programs, dialog boxes, and in some cases even certain "classes" to open on a specific monitor. Unfortunately I have not had luck getting this utility to work on the experimental window in E-prime, however. It seems to run "below" these drivers. However maybe somebody else has had better luck... and I have not tried recently w/ the latest drivers. -----Original Message----- From: Mariana Silva [mailto:mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:48 AM To: David Hairston; eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: Re: E-prime and dual screen Hi David, Thank you for your suggestion. I did change the monitors before. The problem is that I need the primary screen for another application. I assume E-prime will never work on the secondary screen, i.e. there is not a possible set of instructions to make it do that. Is this the case? Mariana ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hairston" To: "Mariana Silva" ; Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 4:36 PM Subject: RE: E-prime and dual screen Yes, it is actually quite easy. The key is that the experiment will run on whichever monitor is designated as the "primary" within Windows. You can change this in the Display settings. We like to keep the E-Editor window with debugger open on the Secondary window, and use it to read output/results from the experiment. Really nice when you realize the subject is doing everything wrong, etc. -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf Of Mariana Silva Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:22 AM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: E-prime and dual screen Hi, Does anyone know how to make the E-prime experiment run on the secondary screen when you use dual screen configuration? Thank you in advance. Mariana ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------- Mariana M. Silva Research Fellow UCL Interaction Centre Room 4.05, Remax House 31/32 Alfred Place London WC1E 7DP UK Tel: +44 (0) 20 7679 5204 Fax: +44 (0)20 7679 5295 e-mail: mariana.silva at ucl.ac.uk From golcud at mail.rockefeller.edu Thu Apr 13 14:25:35 2006 From: golcud at mail.rockefeller.edu (golcud at mail.rockefeller.edu) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:25:35 -0400 Subject: how to change experiment path according to response Message-ID: Hi. I have two slide objects in my experiment, and I am trying to make the second one appear only when the first one receives a specific response, and not when a different response is given. Any suggestions about how to achieve this most efficiently? Doruk From dcassenti at arl.army.mil Thu Apr 13 16:16:15 2006 From: dcassenti at arl.army.mil (Cassenti, Daniel (Govt, ARL/HRED)) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:16:15 -0400 Subject: how to change experiment path according to response Message-ID: Hi Doruk, Use an InLine object and a Label. It should look like this in your procedure: Slide1 InLine1 Slide2 Label1 Then put into InLine1: If Slide1.RESP <> "CorrectResponseString" then Goto Label1 End if So, in English: If the CorrectResponseString is not chosen as the response to Slide1, go to Label1, which is after Slide2 and therefore skips it. You don't need anything else because if there's no goto command then it will just move onto Slide2 on its own. Also if E-Prime runs into a label while enacting a procedure it will just skip it. Good Luck! Dan -----Original Message----- From: eprime at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:eprime at mail.talkbank.org] On Behalf Of golcud at mail.rockefeller.edu Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:26 AM To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Subject: how to change experiment path according to response Hi. I have two slide objects in my experiment, and I am trying to make the second one appear only when the first one receives a specific response, and not when a different response is given. Any suggestions about how to achieve this most efficiently? Doruk From macw at cmu.edu Thu Apr 13 20:34:00 2006 From: macw at cmu.edu (Brian MacWhinney) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:34:00 -0400 Subject: CMU Symposium Message-ID: "Embodiment, Ego-Space, and Action" The 34th Annual Carnegie Symposium on Cognition will be held June 2-4, 2006, at Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh. As conference organizers, we invite you to attend and also ask that you disseminate this announcement to your colleagues. Further details are available from our website: Please note that funding is available for junior scientists' travel and lodging expenses associated with attending the symposium. Interested applicants should send a brief statement of interest, a curriculum vitae, and one letter of recommendation by April 21, 2006 to Genevieve Placone . We would appreciate it if you could distribute this information to any interested individuals. Thank you for your help in publicizing the symposium. Sincerely, Roberta Klatzky Marlene Behrmann Brian MacWhinney -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From macw at cmu.edu Sat Apr 15 02:07:56 2006 From: macw at cmu.edu (Brian MacWhinney) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:07:56 -0400 Subject: multiple procedures, nested lists, and complex stimuli Message-ID: Dear E-Prime, I am posting this message for Alberto Pacios of University of La Laguna, Spain, who is having some trouble posting from his hotmail account. Please feel free to reply either to the list or to albertopacios at hotmail.com. Here is Alberto's message: ******************************************************************* Hi, everyone: We're trying to make an experiment in which we present a series of complex stimuli, and then we ask a series of questions for each one of them. Then we continue with the next series of complex stimuli, and again we ask another series of questions. And again, and again? Each "complex stimuli" is composed of a picture that stays visible while 2 phrases appear and disappear, one after the other. Also, each one of those "complex stimuli" has two particular questions associated to it (which we'll ask when we get through the end of that "series" of complex stimuli). Therefore, I think it was necessary to give one row of the table to each "complex stimuli" (Pic - phrase 1 - phrase 2 - question 1 - question 2), so that the reference connection between the attributes wouldn't be lost. In 2.6.6.2 of the User Guide, there is a way to delay the 'TEST' sub- procedure until after the 'PRESENTATION' sub-procedure has finished running the list of samples (without losing that connection): You make one supra-ordinated list object listing two sub-procedures in an attribute column, and you bracket-reference that attribute name as the procedure of the list of stimuli. You build the sub-procedures in the unreferenced E-objects briefcase, and voila, one sub-procedure runs the list of stimuli, and then the second sub-procedure runs its own way the same list of stimuli. But I don't want it to run ALL the list of stimuli. Each cycle "presentation/test" must cover a SUB-group of the big list of -"complex"- stimuli. I have tried a lot of ways to create nested lists to break the big list of stimuli into various sub-lists, yet I don't happen to find the exact combination of nested lists and the 2.6.6.2 trick. Even so, I suppose this may be a common and probably basic need for most E-Prime users, and maybe you have a simple way to put me on track with this problem. I would very gladly receive any help.. Thank you a lot. Alberto Pacios University of La Laguna, Spain From antonio.pellicano at unipd.it Thu Apr 20 14:52:13 2006 From: antonio.pellicano at unipd.it (antonio.pellicano at unipd.it) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:52:13 +0200 Subject: touch-screen Experiment In-Reply-To: <54001.42882@mail.talkbank.org> Message-ID: dear All, I'm hardly trying to write a dual-choice-reaction-task using a touch-screen as a response device. The exeriment must collect Reaction Times and Movement Times from each trial. A single trial consist of a home box-square and two lateral target box-squares drown on the monitor display. Subects have to discriminate between two stimuli by releasing the index finger from the home box and touch the left or right target box. Releasig time will be the RT, while the interval between the release of the home box and the touch of the target box will be the MT. Is there anyone who is familiar with similar experimental designs? Is there anyone of you who interfaced a touch-screen device as a response device to E-Prime? Than you very much in advance A. Pellicano