From jae2924 at louisiana.edu  Fri Feb  3 18:38:45 2006
From: jae2924 at louisiana.edu (Epstein Jody)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:38:45 -0600
Subject: pause during trial session
Message-ID: <FRI.3.FEB.2006.123845.0600.JAE2924@LOUISIANA.EDU>

I am using a touch screen for my experiment, but will ocassionally need to pause the session in order to clean the touch screen. I would like to be able to simply touch a button on the keyboard to pause the session, then touch it again to continue where we left off.

So  far we have been able to set up a situation where the program goes to a solid red screen before each trial in the session. Currently it's necessary to touch the keyboard to get it to continue to the next trial each time. This is not good. When we tried to write code so that the program would simply check to see if there had been keyboard input, it caused the program to crash. We can no longer open that particular experiment as each time we tried it came up as "not responding." Any suggestions for code that would allow us to interrupt the session when we touch the keyboard, and only when we touch the keyboard?

Thanks!!!!
Jody

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From pauls_postbus at hotmail.com  Mon Feb  6 08:33:28 2006
From: pauls_postbus at hotmail.com (Paul Gr)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 09:33:28 +0100
Subject: pause during trial session
In-Reply-To: <20060203183245.M33784@louisiana.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.6.FEB.2006.093328.0100.PAULSPOSTBUS@HOTMAIL.COM>

Hello Jody,

You can use the GetUserBreakState() to check if ctrl+shft was pressed. (See 
EBasic for more info) The nice thing about this function is that it can be 
called at any point in your script.

best,
paul


>From: "Epstein Jody" <jae2924 at louisiana.edu>
>To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org
>Subject: pause during trial session
>Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:38:45 -0600
>
>I am using a touch screen for my experiment, but will ocassionally need to 
>pause the session in order to clean the touch screen. I would like to be 
>able to simply touch a button on the keyboard to pause the session, then 
>touch it again to continue where we left off.
>
>So  far we have been able to set up a situation where the program goes to a 
>solid red screen before each trial in the session. Currently it's necessary 
>to touch the keyboard to get it to continue to the next trial each time. 
>This is not good. When we tried to write code so that the program would 
>simply check to see if there had been keyboard input, it caused the program 
>to crash. We can no longer open that particular experiment as each time we 
>tried it came up as "not responding." Any suggestions for code that would 
>allow us to interrupt the session when we touch the keyboard, and only when 
>we touch the keyboard?
>
>Thanks!!!!
>Jody
>
>--
>
>


From eddie at ling.ed.ac.uk  Thu Feb 16 16:34:13 2006
From: eddie at ling.ed.ac.uk (Eddie Dubourg)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:34:13 -0000
Subject: Defined responses.
Message-ID: <THU.16.FEB.2006.163413.0000.EDDIE@LING.ED.AC.UK>

In e-prime it's trivial to force a response on single characters, and
equally trivial to allow unconstrained string input.

I've been trying to construct a script where specific 2-4 letter
combinations are allowed - ba ca bi pa cvg - but only the finite set (about
64) is allowed.

I was wondering if some kind soul could tell me yay or nay, so I can go to
my initial idea of string responses and data picking....

Many thanks,

Eddie Dubourg
C/TSO, LEL, PPLS, University of Edinburgh
, 


From fedshc at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 18 22:13:44 2006
From: fedshc at yahoo.com (Sau Hou Chang)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:13:44 -0800
Subject: randomization
Message-ID: <SAT.18.FEB.2006.141344.0800.FEDSHC@YAHOO.COM>

Hi,
>    I've some problems about randomization. Please
>share your experience and help me out. 
>    The stimuli are 5 words & their corresponding
>pictures. The procedure is:
>1. word in black. 
>2. either the previous word in red or the previous
>word in corresponding pictures.
>3. blank screen.
>
>    So, the whole procedure will show the 5 words in
>black 10 times, the 5 words in red 5 times, the 5
>words in corresponding pictures 5 times. 
>    My set up gives words in black 10 times, red 5
>times, and pictures 5 times. However, some of the
>words in red and some of the pictures are repeated.
It
>means some of the words are presented in red more
than
>one, but some are not presented. So are the pictures!
>    Even though I chose random selection, the
stimulus
>are chosen repeatedly. 
>    What should I do? 
>    Can anyone give me a thought?
>    Sau Hou
>

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From macw at cmu.edu  Mon Feb 20 16:46:56 2006
From: macw at cmu.edu (Brian MacWhinney)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:46:56 -0500
Subject: Embodiment, Ego-Space,
 and Action -- 34th Annual Carnegie Symposium on Cognition
Message-ID: <MON.20.FEB.2006.114656.0500.MACW@CMU.EDU>

"Embodiment, Ego-Space, and Action"

The 34th Annual Carnegie Symposium on Cognition will be held June 2-4, 2006,
at Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh.  As conference organizers, we
invite you to attend and also ask that you disseminate this announcement to
your colleagues. 

The presenters include Jack Loomis, Guenther Knoblich, Roberta Klatzky,
Dennis Proffitt, Giacomo Rizzolatti, Paul Cisek, Andrew Schwartz, Jody
Culham, Peter Strick, Carol Colby (discussant), Karen Adolph, Bennett
Bertenthal, and Susan Fitzpatrick (discussant).

To prevent viruses, this email posting does not include an attachment.
However, a PDF brochure is available from our website:
<http://www.psy.cmu.edu:16080/embodiment/>

We would like to encourage you to print out and post that PDF brochure and
to further circulate this message.

Please note that funding is available for junior scientists' travel and
lodging expenses associated with attending the symposium.  Interested
applicants should send a brief statement of interest, a curriculum vitae,
and one letter of recommendation by April 21, 2006 to Genevieve Placone
<gingerp at andrew.cmu.edu>.  We would appreciate it if you could distribute
this information to any interested individuals.

Thank you for your help in publicizing the symposium.

Sincerely, 

Roberta Klatzky 
Marlene Behrmann 
Brian MacWhinney 


From marful at usal.es  Tue Feb 21 11:36:58 2006
From: marful at usal.es (Sandra M)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:36:58 +0100
Subject: problems with the slide object
Message-ID: <TUE.21.FEB.2006.123658.0100.MARFUL@USAL.ES>

i am trying to run an experiment where subjects type some words using the
keyboard. I have used the slide object but when subjects try to delete
some item and press the "del" key, the program blocks, how could i solve
this problem? thanks a lot
sandra


From eddie at ling.ed.ac.uk  Wed Feb 22 12:35:01 2006
From: eddie at ling.ed.ac.uk (Eddie Dubourg)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:35:01 -0000
Subject: Mulitple lists single procedure
Message-ID: <WED.22.FEB.2006.123501.0000.EDDIE@LING.ED.AC.UK>

Is is possible to reference two lists in one procedure?

I have to have a list of 37 stimuli, and 14 controls.  A sound is played, a
response is given, three times, then a control sound is played.  I need the
program to do the 37 stimuli completely, then exit, playing the necessary
number of controls from a random list.

Creating the procedure with a loop that increments trial count, then when
trial count = 3 it jumps to a label which plays the control object, then an
Inline object resets the trial counter.

Now I tried creating a second list in Unreferenced E-objects, but it won't
read the attribute, and says it doesn't exist.  Is this structure possible?

Eddie Dubourg
C/TSO, LEL, PPLS, HSS, UoE


From leisha at decisionresearch.org  Wed Feb 22 17:50:46 2006
From: leisha at decisionresearch.org (Leisha Wharfield)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:50:46 -0800
Subject: Mulitple lists single procedure
In-Reply-To: <200602221230.k1MCUue10001@pisa.ling.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <WED.22.FEB.2006.095046.0800.LEISHA@DECISIONRESEARCH.ORG>

Hi, Eddie,

When I need to call out multiple lists I usually embed them in the 
master list, then call out the embedded lists from a dummy list later in 
the procedure. That way I can be sure that my items that need to be 
associated with each other always are--in other words, if a subject sees 
a scenario, then gets a distraction task, then is presented with memory 
items related to the scenario, the memory items are associated with 
their scenario in the master list.

If you want to pull randomly from the same list of control objects for 
every item in your master list, I think I would do it this way (I'm sure 
other people will chime in if there's another more efficient way. Also 
I'm not looking at any of my experiment files right now, I'm writing 
this from memory, so please excuse me if I miss any details):

You'll have a slide that presents a control object, right? Call the 
variable CO; embed it on the slide using brackets: [CO]. You need random 
items from a list called ControlList, say. Create a column in your 
master list called ControlItem. The source of the ControlItem for each 
line in your list is ControlList. Within ControlList is the object that 
you need, under the column CO (or whatever you choose to call it, but 
make sure you have a column in the ControlList that matches the 
attribute name you assigned to your control objects and have embedded in 
your slide).

When you need the control object, eprime sees that CO item in the 
ControlItem list that's associated with your master list. This is one 
way to get your unreferenced E-objects recognized in the procedure, so 
that their attributes exist--create a connection to the control-object 
list via the master list.

Can you reference two lists in one procedure? Yes, you can reference 
many lists in one procedure.

Good luck,

Leisha Wharfield
Decision Research
Eugene, Oregon, USA

Eddie Dubourg wrote:

>Is is possible to reference two lists in one procedure?
>
>I have to have a list of 37 stimuli, and 14 controls.  A sound is played, a
>response is given, three times, then a control sound is played.  I need the
>program to do the 37 stimuli completely, then exit, playing the necessary
>number of controls from a random list.
>
>Creating the procedure with a loop that increments trial count, then when
>trial count = 3 it jumps to a label which plays the control object, then an
>Inline object resets the trial counter.
>
>Now I tried creating a second list in Unreferenced E-objects, but it won't
>read the attribute, and says it doesn't exist.  Is this structure possible?
>
>Eddie Dubourg
>C/TSO, LEL, PPLS, HSS, UoE
>
>
>
>  
>


From jae2924 at louisiana.edu  Fri Feb  3 18:38:45 2006
From: jae2924 at louisiana.edu (Epstein Jody)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:38:45 -0600
Subject: pause during trial session
Message-ID: <FRI.3.FEB.2006.123845.0600.JAE2924@LOUISIANA.EDU>

I am using a touch screen for my experiment, but will ocassionally need to pause the session in order to clean the touch screen. I would like to be able to simply touch a button on the keyboard to pause the session, then touch it again to continue where we left off.

So? far we have been able to set up a situation where the program goes to a solid red screen before each trial in the session. Currently it's necessary to touch the keyboard to get it to continue to the next trial each time. This is not good. When we tried to write code so that the program would simply check to see if there had been keyboard input, it caused the program to crash. We can no longer open that particular experiment as each time we tried it came up as "not responding." Any suggestions for code that would allow us to interrupt the session when we touch the keyboard, and only when we touch the keyboard?

Thanks!!!!
Jody

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From pauls_postbus at hotmail.com  Mon Feb  6 08:33:28 2006
From: pauls_postbus at hotmail.com (Paul Gr)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 09:33:28 +0100
Subject: pause during trial session
In-Reply-To: <20060203183245.M33784@louisiana.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.6.FEB.2006.093328.0100.PAULSPOSTBUS@HOTMAIL.COM>

Hello Jody,

You can use the GetUserBreakState() to check if ctrl+shft was pressed. (See 
EBasic for more info) The nice thing about this function is that it can be 
called at any point in your script.

best,
paul


>From: "Epstein Jody" <jae2924 at louisiana.edu>
>To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org
>Subject: pause during trial session
>Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:38:45 -0600
>
>I am using a touch screen for my experiment, but will ocassionally need to 
>pause the session in order to clean the touch screen. I would like to be 
>able to simply touch a button on the keyboard to pause the session, then 
>touch it again to continue where we left off.
>
>So? far we have been able to set up a situation where the program goes to a 
>solid red screen before each trial in the session. Currently it's necessary 
>to touch the keyboard to get it to continue to the next trial each time. 
>This is not good. When we tried to write code so that the program would 
>simply check to see if there had been keyboard input, it caused the program 
>to crash. We can no longer open that particular experiment as each time we 
>tried it came up as "not responding." Any suggestions for code that would 
>allow us to interrupt the session when we touch the keyboard, and only when 
>we touch the keyboard?
>
>Thanks!!!!
>Jody
>
>--
>
>


From eddie at ling.ed.ac.uk  Thu Feb 16 16:34:13 2006
From: eddie at ling.ed.ac.uk (Eddie Dubourg)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:34:13 -0000
Subject: Defined responses.
Message-ID: <THU.16.FEB.2006.163413.0000.EDDIE@LING.ED.AC.UK>

In e-prime it's trivial to force a response on single characters, and
equally trivial to allow unconstrained string input.

I've been trying to construct a script where specific 2-4 letter
combinations are allowed - ba ca bi pa cvg - but only the finite set (about
64) is allowed.

I was wondering if some kind soul could tell me yay or nay, so I can go to
my initial idea of string responses and data picking....

Many thanks,

Eddie Dubourg
C/TSO, LEL, PPLS, University of Edinburgh
, 


From fedshc at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 18 22:13:44 2006
From: fedshc at yahoo.com (Sau Hou Chang)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:13:44 -0800
Subject: randomization
Message-ID: <SAT.18.FEB.2006.141344.0800.FEDSHC@YAHOO.COM>

Hi,
>    I've some problems about randomization. Please
>share your experience and help me out. 
>    The stimuli are 5 words & their corresponding
>pictures. The procedure is:
>1. word in black. 
>2. either the previous word in red or the previous
>word in corresponding pictures.
>3. blank screen.
>
>    So, the whole procedure will show the 5 words in
>black 10 times, the 5 words in red 5 times, the 5
>words in corresponding pictures 5 times. 
>    My set up gives words in black 10 times, red 5
>times, and pictures 5 times. However, some of the
>words in red and some of the pictures are repeated.
It
>means some of the words are presented in red more
than
>one, but some are not presented. So are the pictures!
>    Even though I chose random selection, the
stimulus
>are chosen repeatedly. 
>    What should I do? 
>    Can anyone give me a thought?
>    Sau Hou
>

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From macw at cmu.edu  Mon Feb 20 16:46:56 2006
From: macw at cmu.edu (Brian MacWhinney)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:46:56 -0500
Subject: Embodiment, Ego-Space,
 and Action -- 34th Annual Carnegie Symposium on Cognition
Message-ID: <MON.20.FEB.2006.114656.0500.MACW@CMU.EDU>

"Embodiment, Ego-Space, and Action"

The 34th Annual Carnegie Symposium on Cognition will be held June 2-4, 2006,
at Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh.  As conference organizers, we
invite you to attend and also ask that you disseminate this announcement to
your colleagues. 

The presenters include Jack Loomis, Guenther Knoblich, Roberta Klatzky,
Dennis Proffitt, Giacomo Rizzolatti, Paul Cisek, Andrew Schwartz, Jody
Culham, Peter Strick, Carol Colby (discussant), Karen Adolph, Bennett
Bertenthal, and Susan Fitzpatrick (discussant).

To prevent viruses, this email posting does not include an attachment.
However, a PDF brochure is available from our website:
<http://www.psy.cmu.edu:16080/embodiment/>

We would like to encourage you to print out and post that PDF brochure and
to further circulate this message.

Please note that funding is available for junior scientists' travel and
lodging expenses associated with attending the symposium.  Interested
applicants should send a brief statement of interest, a curriculum vitae,
and one letter of recommendation by April 21, 2006 to Genevieve Placone
<gingerp at andrew.cmu.edu>.  We would appreciate it if you could distribute
this information to any interested individuals.

Thank you for your help in publicizing the symposium.

Sincerely, 

Roberta Klatzky 
Marlene Behrmann 
Brian MacWhinney 


From marful at usal.es  Tue Feb 21 11:36:58 2006
From: marful at usal.es (Sandra M)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:36:58 +0100
Subject: problems with the slide object
Message-ID: <TUE.21.FEB.2006.123658.0100.MARFUL@USAL.ES>

i am trying to run an experiment where subjects type some words using the
keyboard. I have used the slide object but when subjects try to delete
some item and press the "del" key, the program blocks, how could i solve
this problem? thanks a lot
sandra


From eddie at ling.ed.ac.uk  Wed Feb 22 12:35:01 2006
From: eddie at ling.ed.ac.uk (Eddie Dubourg)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:35:01 -0000
Subject: Mulitple lists single procedure
Message-ID: <WED.22.FEB.2006.123501.0000.EDDIE@LING.ED.AC.UK>

Is is possible to reference two lists in one procedure?

I have to have a list of 37 stimuli, and 14 controls.  A sound is played, a
response is given, three times, then a control sound is played.  I need the
program to do the 37 stimuli completely, then exit, playing the necessary
number of controls from a random list.

Creating the procedure with a loop that increments trial count, then when
trial count = 3 it jumps to a label which plays the control object, then an
Inline object resets the trial counter.

Now I tried creating a second list in Unreferenced E-objects, but it won't
read the attribute, and says it doesn't exist.  Is this structure possible?

Eddie Dubourg
C/TSO, LEL, PPLS, HSS, UoE


From leisha at decisionresearch.org  Wed Feb 22 17:50:46 2006
From: leisha at decisionresearch.org (Leisha Wharfield)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:50:46 -0800
Subject: Mulitple lists single procedure
In-Reply-To: <200602221230.k1MCUue10001@pisa.ling.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <WED.22.FEB.2006.095046.0800.LEISHA@DECISIONRESEARCH.ORG>

Hi, Eddie,

When I need to call out multiple lists I usually embed them in the 
master list, then call out the embedded lists from a dummy list later in 
the procedure. That way I can be sure that my items that need to be 
associated with each other always are--in other words, if a subject sees 
a scenario, then gets a distraction task, then is presented with memory 
items related to the scenario, the memory items are associated with 
their scenario in the master list.

If you want to pull randomly from the same list of control objects for 
every item in your master list, I think I would do it this way (I'm sure 
other people will chime in if there's another more efficient way. Also 
I'm not looking at any of my experiment files right now, I'm writing 
this from memory, so please excuse me if I miss any details):

You'll have a slide that presents a control object, right? Call the 
variable CO; embed it on the slide using brackets: [CO]. You need random 
items from a list called ControlList, say. Create a column in your 
master list called ControlItem. The source of the ControlItem for each 
line in your list is ControlList. Within ControlList is the object that 
you need, under the column CO (or whatever you choose to call it, but 
make sure you have a column in the ControlList that matches the 
attribute name you assigned to your control objects and have embedded in 
your slide).

When you need the control object, eprime sees that CO item in the 
ControlItem list that's associated with your master list. This is one 
way to get your unreferenced E-objects recognized in the procedure, so 
that their attributes exist--create a connection to the control-object 
list via the master list.

Can you reference two lists in one procedure? Yes, you can reference 
many lists in one procedure.

Good luck,

Leisha Wharfield
Decision Research
Eugene, Oregon, USA

Eddie Dubourg wrote:

>Is is possible to reference two lists in one procedure?
>
>I have to have a list of 37 stimuli, and 14 controls.  A sound is played, a
>response is given, three times, then a control sound is played.  I need the
>program to do the 37 stimuli completely, then exit, playing the necessary
>number of controls from a random list.
>
>Creating the procedure with a loop that increments trial count, then when
>trial count = 3 it jumps to a label which plays the control object, then an
>Inline object resets the trial counter.
>
>Now I tried creating a second list in Unreferenced E-objects, but it won't
>read the attribute, and says it doesn't exist.  Is this structure possible?
>
>Eddie Dubourg
>C/TSO, LEL, PPLS, HSS, UoE
>
>
>
>  
>