From n490b at unb.ca Thu Sep 7 15:46:47 2006 From: n490b at unb.ca (Jones, Stephanie) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:46:47 -0300 Subject: Question Message-ID: Hello! I would like to know how to instruct Estudio to allow the use of the number key pad on the right side of the key board (as opposed to the number pad on the top of the key board)? When I try to enter a number using the keypad with number lock on, it doesn't display on the screen. Please note that I've inserted a text box so that Estudio will recognize that I want to be able to see the number that I type. It works for the number pad on the top of the key board. Thank you, Aren From leisha at decisionresearch.org Thu Sep 7 16:36:44 2006 From: leisha at decisionresearch.org (Leisha Wharfield) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:36:44 -0700 Subject: Question In-Reply-To: <1157644007.45003ee76f54d@webmail.unb.ca> Message-ID: Hi, Aren, It took me a while to find this, but I knew I had done it a while back for an experiment in which subjects were able to give a numeric response, but only from the keyboard, not from the number pad. I had to make sure that the number pad would not work when subjects tried to enter numbers with it. In the Structure window of E-Studio, the top item is your Experiment. Double-click on that and you get an experiment object properties window. Click the tab for Devices. Select the keyboard and click Edit. You'll see where you can turn NumLock on or off. I don't know which is the default, but maybe it's turned off now & you just need to switch it on there in the Experiment properties. Hope this helps. Leisha Wharfield Decision Research Eugene, Oregon, USA Jones, Stephanie wrote: >Hello! > I would like to know how to instruct Estudio to allow the use of the number key pad on >the right side of the key board (as opposed to the number pad on the top of the key >board)? > When I try to enter a number using the keypad with number lock on, it doesn't display >on the screen. Please note that I've inserted a text box so that Estudio will recognize >that I want to be able to see the number that I type. It works for the number pad on the >top of the key board. > >Thank you, > >Aren > > > > From n490b at unb.ca Thu Sep 7 19:02:33 2006 From: n490b at unb.ca (Jones, Stephanie) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:02:33 -0300 Subject: two images at once Message-ID: Hello! Can Estudio show two images at once? (more specifically, one on each of two computer monitors). And if so, how do I instruct it to do so? Thank you, Stephanie From wells at mail.utexas.edu Thu Sep 7 21:10:48 2006 From: wells at mail.utexas.edu (wells at mail.utexas.edu) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:10:48 -0500 Subject: Biopac markers and triggers Message-ID: How can I send markers and triggers to Biopac? That is, should there be an inline object that sends the marker or trigger? If so, what should be in it? Just to make sure I'm being clear... by "marker" I mean just sending a marker to Biopac to mark when something has happened. By "trigger" I mean letting Biopac know when to start and stop recording. Also, if it helps we're using Biopac systems MP150 with a STP100C interface. Thanks! - Tony Wells From t.o.chr at web.de Fri Sep 8 07:49:44 2006 From: t.o.chr at web.de (Theodor Christow) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:49:44 +0200 Subject: multiple responses before terminating Message-ID: Hello, within a Slide I have placed 8 Slidetexts. The task of the subjects is to clear each single Slidetext by pressing a specific key-number depending on the specific Slidetext that is to clear. It is important to let the subjects clear the 8 Slidetexts spontaneously in an oder they choose. There are to much possible orderings to create them all as different Slides. Can somebody give me an idea how to accomplish this random ordering without terminating the Slide until the last Slidetext was cleared? Many thanks, Theodor Christow From leisha at decisionresearch.org Fri Sep 8 20:02:17 2006 From: leisha at decisionresearch.org (Leisha Wharfield) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:02:17 -0700 Subject: multiple responses before terminating In-Reply-To: <114095596@web.de> Message-ID: Hi, Theodor, That would be fun to program. Other people I'm sure will give you a more elegant way to achieve this, but I would initially include all 8 Slidetexts on your slide. You start with all 8 Slidetexts showing, right? An in-line object after the slide would grab the Slide.RESP and save it to a string. You could determine how to redraw the slide by checking what's in the ResponseString & drawing the elements you need. If the ResponseString contained all 8 responses (i.e., 12345678 were included in ResponseString), you would terminate the slide. ElseIf, you could draw each of the eight elements whose number was not in ResponseString, so if 1 is not contained in the ResponseString, draw SlideText1, if 2 is not included in ResponseString, draw SlideText2, and so on. Redraw the slide, add another response to the string, & repeat until the slide is terminated because all 8 responses are included in the string. Leisha Wharfield Decision Research Eugene, Oregon, USA Theodor Christow wrote: >Hello, > >within a Slide I have placed 8 Slidetexts. The task of the subjects is to clear each single Slidetext by pressing a specific key-number depending on the specific Slidetext that is to clear. It is important to let the subjects clear the 8 Slidetexts spontaneously in an oder they choose. There are to much possible orderings to create them all as different Slides. Can somebody give me an idea how to accomplish this random ordering without terminating the Slide until the last Slidetext was cleared? > >Many thanks, > >Theodor Christow > > > > From pauls_postbus at hotmail.com Tue Sep 12 09:29:00 2006 From: pauls_postbus at hotmail.com (Paul Gr) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:29:00 +0200 Subject: Biopac markers and triggers In-Reply-To: <1157663448.45008ad8ddf1c@webmailapp1.cc.utexas.edu> Message-ID: hi tony, BioPac only supports recording of a set of digital input lines. The required digital signals can be generated by sending 8-bit values to the parallel printer port. Since BioPac records each bit as a separate channel, it is custom to use values that are a power of two to mark specific events. A related post is available at the list server: http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0501d&L=eprime&P=219 Automatically starting acquisition (i.e. triggering) is just a matter of connecting and activating the correct digital line. I think BioPac currently offers a special EPrime compatible cable, which can be connected between the printer port and the STP100. (Note sure if this cable supports the trigger line. You could connect the trigger input with one of the other digital inputs [d8..d15] though.) Note that the digital input channels are unrelated to the textual ‘Markers’ that are used in AcqKnowledge to mark events. You will require special offline software to translate the digital channels to biopac markers. (Although I don’t think those markers are very useful because AcqKnowledge doesn’t offer much functionality such as conditional epoching or averaging by using event markers.) best, Paul Groot Vrije Universiteit van Amsterdam >From: wells at mail.utexas.edu >To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org >Subject: Biopac markers and triggers >Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:10:48 -0500 > >How can I send markers and triggers to Biopac? That is, should there be an >inline object that sends the marker or trigger? If so, what should be in >it? > >Just to make sure I'm being clear... by "marker" I mean just sending a >marker to >Biopac to mark when something has happened. By "trigger" I mean letting >Biopac >know when to start and stop recording. > >Also, if it helps we're using Biopac systems MP150 with a STP100C >interface. >Thanks! > > - Tony Wells > > > > From listman at listserv.linguistlist.org Wed Sep 13 19:10:24 2006 From: listman at listserv.linguistlist.org (Listserv Administrator) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:10:24 -0400 Subject: multiple response logging Message-ID: >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:44:05 -0400 >From: "KP Thai" >Subject: multiple response logging Hi Mr. MacWhinney, My experiment includes showing an image for 30 seconds, and participants are to press 2 keys ("a" and "l"), one key at a time or both keys at the same time, during that time frame as they are viewing the image. I'm trying to log which key(s) is/are pressed (one or both), when the key(s) are pressed, the duration of each press, and the time delay between each key(s) press. Do you know how I can go about doing that in E-Prime? In another study, we used a similar paradigm where participants used continuous mouse clicks as they were viewing images on the computer screen. Is there a way to convert that paradigm to use with key presses? I've copied and pasted the inline script of the previous mouse click paradigm below if that helps. Dim ptMouse as point Dim StartTime as Double Dim EndTime as Double StartTime = Clock.Read EndTime = Clock.Read + 2600 Dim counter as integer counter = 1 Do While Clock.Read < EndTime Mouse.GetCursorPos ptMouse.x, ptMouse.y c.SetAttrib "XTracked" & counter, ptMouse.x c.SetAttrib "YTracked"& counter, ptmouse.y counter = counter + 1 Sleep 100 Loop Thanks very much, -KP From n490b at unb.ca Thu Sep 21 13:17:13 2006 From: n490b at unb.ca (Jones, Stephanie) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:17:13 -0300 Subject: Two images at once Message-ID: Hi everyone! HELP!!! I was wondering if anyone knows how to get EStudio to display two images at once, one on one computer monitor and the second image on a second computer monitor...? I'd appreciate any information! thanks, Stephanie Jones MA Candidate Experimental / Applied Psychology University of New Brunswick, Saint John From saultsj at missouri.edu Fri Sep 22 21:26:59 2006 From: saultsj at missouri.edu (J Scott Saults) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:26:59 -0500 Subject: No subject Message-ID: When I searched the E-Prime list archive, I didn't find any more recent post regarding E-Prime and Neuroscan. (Sorry if I've missed something on this topic, I'm new to the list.) Could I please get an update (from Peter Quain or anyone else on the list) regarding how well they work together? Peter, if you're still testing, I would be happy to contribute. If not, I'm interested in outcomes, diagnosis, and prognosis (and still would be interested in your routines to test our system.) Thank you. Regards, J Scott Saults ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:03:45 +1000 Reply-To: Peter Quain Sender: Eprime List Comments: To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Comments: cc: "Rojas, Don" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed good diagnostics (I think...). Only place it can be is a) Nuamps or b) faulty USB drivers (fromScan) causing sample loss at the acquisition computer. We'd like some timing data from a few other systems (any Neuroscan amps, not just NuAmps) to check against our own. So if anybody is interested get in touch and I'll send along a test paradigm. Takes 20 mins to loop through 310 trials. Do a couple of runs, then send along the output files (*.edat from e-prime, *.ev2 from *.cnt) and I'll send back some diagnostic output. At 11:39 AM ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Fabrizio.Ferri at uv.es Sat Sep 30 13:03:20 2006 From: Fabrizio.Ferri at uv.es (Fabrizio Ferri Benedetti) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:03:20 +0200 Subject: How to send signals from E-Prime through the serial port (COM1, etc) Message-ID: Hi all (first post here)! I've discovered how to send signals through the serial port (not the parallel port). It comes in handy, as certain devices - such as the Neuronic EEG amplifier - use serial port as well as parallel port. What you need to do is the following: - In "Experiment Object Properties", under "Devices", add and leave checked both "Serial" and "Port" devices. - In "PortDevice Properties" window, change the address to &H03F8 (which is the hardware address of the COM1 port) - Use "WritePort &H03F8, 1" (or another number after the colon) to send signals through the COM1 port). I wonder if one could do the same with USB ports. Anyway, if you google for "Serial Port Monitor", "Sermon.exe" or "Parmon" you'll find several nifty applications that will help you to check the status of serial and parallel ports. Another easy way to check the ports output is to use DEBUG.EXE, an old app from the MS-DOS days. After executing the command, you can use this syntax: - o For example, with "o 3F8 1" you will send the "1" command from the COM1 port. And just to spice up this mail a little, let me recommend you a nice document about E-Prime tips and tricks, downloadable here: http://pissaro.soc.huji.ac.il/~leon/Lab/EPrimeTools/Eprime%20Tips%20and%20Tricks.doc Cheers! Fabrizio Ferri Benedetti University of Valencia http://www.uv.es/fafebe/ From n490b at unb.ca Thu Sep 7 15:46:47 2006 From: n490b at unb.ca (Jones, Stephanie) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:46:47 -0300 Subject: Question Message-ID: Hello! I would like to know how to instruct Estudio to allow the use of the number key pad on the right side of the key board (as opposed to the number pad on the top of the key board)? When I try to enter a number using the keypad with number lock on, it doesn't display on the screen. Please note that I've inserted a text box so that Estudio will recognize that I want to be able to see the number that I type. It works for the number pad on the top of the key board. Thank you, Aren From leisha at decisionresearch.org Thu Sep 7 16:36:44 2006 From: leisha at decisionresearch.org (Leisha Wharfield) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:36:44 -0700 Subject: Question In-Reply-To: <1157644007.45003ee76f54d@webmail.unb.ca> Message-ID: Hi, Aren, It took me a while to find this, but I knew I had done it a while back for an experiment in which subjects were able to give a numeric response, but only from the keyboard, not from the number pad. I had to make sure that the number pad would not work when subjects tried to enter numbers with it. In the Structure window of E-Studio, the top item is your Experiment. Double-click on that and you get an experiment object properties window. Click the tab for Devices. Select the keyboard and click Edit. You'll see where you can turn NumLock on or off. I don't know which is the default, but maybe it's turned off now & you just need to switch it on there in the Experiment properties. Hope this helps. Leisha Wharfield Decision Research Eugene, Oregon, USA Jones, Stephanie wrote: >Hello! > I would like to know how to instruct Estudio to allow the use of the number key pad on >the right side of the key board (as opposed to the number pad on the top of the key >board)? > When I try to enter a number using the keypad with number lock on, it doesn't display >on the screen. Please note that I've inserted a text box so that Estudio will recognize >that I want to be able to see the number that I type. It works for the number pad on the >top of the key board. > >Thank you, > >Aren > > > > From n490b at unb.ca Thu Sep 7 19:02:33 2006 From: n490b at unb.ca (Jones, Stephanie) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:02:33 -0300 Subject: two images at once Message-ID: Hello! Can Estudio show two images at once? (more specifically, one on each of two computer monitors). And if so, how do I instruct it to do so? Thank you, Stephanie From wells at mail.utexas.edu Thu Sep 7 21:10:48 2006 From: wells at mail.utexas.edu (wells at mail.utexas.edu) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:10:48 -0500 Subject: Biopac markers and triggers Message-ID: How can I send markers and triggers to Biopac? That is, should there be an inline object that sends the marker or trigger? If so, what should be in it? Just to make sure I'm being clear... by "marker" I mean just sending a marker to Biopac to mark when something has happened. By "trigger" I mean letting Biopac know when to start and stop recording. Also, if it helps we're using Biopac systems MP150 with a STP100C interface. Thanks! - Tony Wells From t.o.chr at web.de Fri Sep 8 07:49:44 2006 From: t.o.chr at web.de (Theodor Christow) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:49:44 +0200 Subject: multiple responses before terminating Message-ID: Hello, within a Slide I have placed 8 Slidetexts. The task of the subjects is to clear each single Slidetext by pressing a specific key-number depending on the specific Slidetext that is to clear. It is important to let the subjects clear the 8 Slidetexts spontaneously in an oder they choose. There are to much possible orderings to create them all as different Slides. Can somebody give me an idea how to accomplish this random ordering without terminating the Slide until the last Slidetext was cleared? Many thanks, Theodor Christow From leisha at decisionresearch.org Fri Sep 8 20:02:17 2006 From: leisha at decisionresearch.org (Leisha Wharfield) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:02:17 -0700 Subject: multiple responses before terminating In-Reply-To: <114095596@web.de> Message-ID: Hi, Theodor, That would be fun to program. Other people I'm sure will give you a more elegant way to achieve this, but I would initially include all 8 Slidetexts on your slide. You start with all 8 Slidetexts showing, right? An in-line object after the slide would grab the Slide.RESP and save it to a string. You could determine how to redraw the slide by checking what's in the ResponseString & drawing the elements you need. If the ResponseString contained all 8 responses (i.e., 12345678 were included in ResponseString), you would terminate the slide. ElseIf, you could draw each of the eight elements whose number was not in ResponseString, so if 1 is not contained in the ResponseString, draw SlideText1, if 2 is not included in ResponseString, draw SlideText2, and so on. Redraw the slide, add another response to the string, & repeat until the slide is terminated because all 8 responses are included in the string. Leisha Wharfield Decision Research Eugene, Oregon, USA Theodor Christow wrote: >Hello, > >within a Slide I have placed 8 Slidetexts. The task of the subjects is to clear each single Slidetext by pressing a specific key-number depending on the specific Slidetext that is to clear. It is important to let the subjects clear the 8 Slidetexts spontaneously in an oder they choose. There are to much possible orderings to create them all as different Slides. Can somebody give me an idea how to accomplish this random ordering without terminating the Slide until the last Slidetext was cleared? > >Many thanks, > >Theodor Christow > > > > From pauls_postbus at hotmail.com Tue Sep 12 09:29:00 2006 From: pauls_postbus at hotmail.com (Paul Gr) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:29:00 +0200 Subject: Biopac markers and triggers In-Reply-To: <1157663448.45008ad8ddf1c@webmailapp1.cc.utexas.edu> Message-ID: hi tony, BioPac only supports recording of a set of digital input lines. The required digital signals can be generated by sending 8-bit values to the parallel printer port. Since BioPac records each bit as a separate channel, it is custom to use values that are a power of two to mark specific events. A related post is available at the list server: http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0501d&L=eprime&P=219 Automatically starting acquisition (i.e. triggering) is just a matter of connecting and activating the correct digital line. I think BioPac currently offers a special EPrime compatible cable, which can be connected between the printer port and the STP100. (Note sure if this cable supports the trigger line. You could connect the trigger input with one of the other digital inputs [d8..d15] though.) Note that the digital input channels are unrelated to the textual ?Markers? that are used in AcqKnowledge to mark events. You will require special offline software to translate the digital channels to biopac markers. (Although I don?t think those markers are very useful because AcqKnowledge doesn?t offer much functionality such as conditional epoching or averaging by using event markers.) best, Paul Groot Vrije Universiteit van Amsterdam >From: wells at mail.utexas.edu >To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org >Subject: Biopac markers and triggers >Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:10:48 -0500 > >How can I send markers and triggers to Biopac? That is, should there be an >inline object that sends the marker or trigger? If so, what should be in >it? > >Just to make sure I'm being clear... by "marker" I mean just sending a >marker to >Biopac to mark when something has happened. By "trigger" I mean letting >Biopac >know when to start and stop recording. > >Also, if it helps we're using Biopac systems MP150 with a STP100C >interface. >Thanks! > > - Tony Wells > > > > From listman at listserv.linguistlist.org Wed Sep 13 19:10:24 2006 From: listman at listserv.linguistlist.org (Listserv Administrator) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:10:24 -0400 Subject: multiple response logging Message-ID: >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:44:05 -0400 >From: "KP Thai" >Subject: multiple response logging Hi Mr. MacWhinney, My experiment includes showing an image for 30 seconds, and participants are to press 2 keys ("a" and "l"), one key at a time or both keys at the same time, during that time frame as they are viewing the image. I'm trying to log which key(s) is/are pressed (one or both), when the key(s) are pressed, the duration of each press, and the time delay between each key(s) press. Do you know how I can go about doing that in E-Prime? In another study, we used a similar paradigm where participants used continuous mouse clicks as they were viewing images on the computer screen. Is there a way to convert that paradigm to use with key presses? I've copied and pasted the inline script of the previous mouse click paradigm below if that helps. Dim ptMouse as point Dim StartTime as Double Dim EndTime as Double StartTime = Clock.Read EndTime = Clock.Read + 2600 Dim counter as integer counter = 1 Do While Clock.Read < EndTime Mouse.GetCursorPos ptMouse.x, ptMouse.y c.SetAttrib "XTracked" & counter, ptMouse.x c.SetAttrib "YTracked"& counter, ptmouse.y counter = counter + 1 Sleep 100 Loop Thanks very much, -KP From n490b at unb.ca Thu Sep 21 13:17:13 2006 From: n490b at unb.ca (Jones, Stephanie) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:17:13 -0300 Subject: Two images at once Message-ID: Hi everyone! HELP!!! I was wondering if anyone knows how to get EStudio to display two images at once, one on one computer monitor and the second image on a second computer monitor...? I'd appreciate any information! thanks, Stephanie Jones MA Candidate Experimental / Applied Psychology University of New Brunswick, Saint John From saultsj at missouri.edu Fri Sep 22 21:26:59 2006 From: saultsj at missouri.edu (J Scott Saults) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:26:59 -0500 Subject: No subject Message-ID: When I searched the E-Prime list archive, I didn't find any more recent post regarding E-Prime and Neuroscan. (Sorry if I've missed something on this topic, I'm new to the list.) Could I please get an update (from Peter Quain or anyone else on the list) regarding how well they work together? Peter, if you're still testing, I would be happy to contribute. If not, I'm interested in outcomes, diagnosis, and prognosis (and still would be interested in your routines to test our system.) Thank you. Regards, J Scott Saults ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:03:45 +1000 Reply-To: Peter Quain Sender: Eprime List Comments: To: eprime at mail.talkbank.org Comments: cc: "Rojas, Don" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed good diagnostics (I think...). Only place it can be is a) Nuamps or b) faulty USB drivers (fromScan) causing sample loss at the acquisition computer. We'd like some timing data from a few other systems (any Neuroscan amps, not just NuAmps) to check against our own. So if anybody is interested get in touch and I'll send along a test paradigm. Takes 20 mins to loop through 310 trials. Do a couple of runs, then send along the output files (*.edat from e-prime, *.ev2 from *.cnt) and I'll send back some diagnostic output. At 11:39 AM ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Fabrizio.Ferri at uv.es Sat Sep 30 13:03:20 2006 From: Fabrizio.Ferri at uv.es (Fabrizio Ferri Benedetti) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:03:20 +0200 Subject: How to send signals from E-Prime through the serial port (COM1, etc) Message-ID: Hi all (first post here)! I've discovered how to send signals through the serial port (not the parallel port). It comes in handy, as certain devices - such as the Neuronic EEG amplifier - use serial port as well as parallel port. What you need to do is the following: - In "Experiment Object Properties", under "Devices", add and leave checked both "Serial" and "Port" devices. - In "PortDevice Properties" window, change the address to &H03F8 (which is the hardware address of the COM1 port) - Use "WritePort &H03F8, 1" (or another number after the colon) to send signals through the COM1 port). I wonder if one could do the same with USB ports. Anyway, if you google for "Serial Port Monitor", "Sermon.exe" or "Parmon" you'll find several nifty applications that will help you to check the status of serial and parallel ports. Another easy way to check the ports output is to use DEBUG.EXE, an old app from the MS-DOS days. After executing the command, you can use this syntax: - o For example, with "o 3F8 1" you will send the "1" command from the COM1 port. And just to spice up this mail a little, let me recommend you a nice document about E-Prime tips and tricks, downloadable here: http://pissaro.soc.huji.ac.il/~leon/Lab/EPrimeTools/Eprime%20Tips%20and%20Tricks.doc Cheers! Fabrizio Ferri Benedetti University of Valencia http://www.uv.es/fafebe/