From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Nov 2 17:39:32 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 13:39:32 -0400 Subject: Experiment hardcopies Message-ID: Has anybody found a way to print out hardcopy of experiment programs with E-Prime 2.0? E-Studio has never provided a printout function, but in versions 1.x I was able to make do by printing out scripts either from E-Run or from any text editor (since the .ebs files were just VisualBasic text files). But now E-Run does not reveal the script, and the .ebs2 files are encoded xml files so bringing them up in a text editor is useless. (Or am I just hopelessly old-fashioned for still wanting to see things on dead trees?) --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Nov 2 18:57:12 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:57:12 -0400 Subject: Experiment hardcopies In-Reply-To: <472b60d7.2ee1220a.7e65.5142SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Answering my own question... Turns out you can still copy script text from the Full tab of the Script view in E-Studio, then paste that into a text editor to make a printout (never explored that ability before). Clumsy, but it will have to do. (It's still highly disappointing that 2.0 does not allow for any editing of the full script, but that's a different topic.) At 11/2/2007 01:39 PM Friday, I wrote: >Has anybody found a way to print out hardcopy of experiment programs >with E-Prime 2.0? E-Studio has never provided a printout function, >but in versions 1.x I was able to make do by printing out scripts >either from E-Run or from any text editor (since the .ebs files were >just VisualBasic text files). But now E-Run does not reveal the >script, and the .ebs2 files are encoded xml files so bringing them up >in a text editor is useless. > >(Or am I just hopelessly old-fashioned for still wanting to see >things on dead trees?) > >--- >David McFarlane, Systems Designer >Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University >mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 >Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From finej at msu.edu Fri Nov 2 19:04:51 2007 From: finej at msu.edu (Jodene Fine) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:04:51 -0400 Subject: Experiment hardcopies In-Reply-To: <472b730b.35e3220a.594d.5ae0SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Dave, You are too kind. Seeing the script is not the same as working on the script, and I still see this as the major point. Even if you get the thing into an editor, you can't make any changes to it that would be implemented. PST needs to find a way to fix this. You're not old fashioned, by the way, and neither am I. Nothing wrong with wanting control of your code... Jodene -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David McFarlane Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 2:57 PM To: e-prime at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Experiment hardcopies Answering my own question... Turns out you can still copy script text from the Full tab of the Script view in E-Studio, then paste that into a text editor to make a printout (never explored that ability before). Clumsy, but it will have to do. (It's still highly disappointing that 2.0 does not allow for any editing of the full script, but that's a different topic.) At 11/2/2007 01:39 PM Friday, I wrote: >Has anybody found a way to print out hardcopy of experiment programs >with E-Prime 2.0? E-Studio has never provided a printout function, >but in versions 1.x I was able to make do by printing out scripts >either from E-Run or from any text editor (since the .ebs files were >just VisualBasic text files). But now E-Run does not reveal the >script, and the .ebs2 files are encoded xml files so bringing them up >in a text editor is useless. > >(Or am I just hopelessly old-fashioned for still wanting to see >things on dead trees?) > >--- >David McFarlane, Systems Designer >Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University >mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 >Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From c.wahlheim at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 00:26:25 2007 From: c.wahlheim at gmail.com (c.wahlheim (Jacoby Lab @ Wash U)) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:26:25 -0700 Subject: Random number generator Message-ID: Hi, I am fairly new to ePrime and brand new to this group. I am trying to program an experiment in which false feedback is given to incorrect responses on a recognition memory test. Specifically, I would like the false feedback "correct" to only be displayed 85% of the time that an incorrect response is produced (e.g., false alarm, miss). I was thinking that I could use a random number generator along with an "if" command to do this. Does anyone know how to write the inline code for a random number generator? Thanks, Chris --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From chunhuichen at 126.com Sun Nov 4 01:54:42 2007 From: chunhuichen at 126.com (chen) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 09:54:42 +0800 Subject: Random number generator In-Reply-To: <1194135985.991227.327670@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Syntax Random(min,max) Description Returns a Long value greater than or equal to min and less than or equal to max. Comments Both the min and max parameters are rounded to Long. A runtime error is generated if min is greater than max. Example 'This example uses the random number generator to generate ten 'lottery numbers. Const crlf = Chr$(13) + Chr$(10) Sub Main() Randomize 'Start with new random seed. For x = 1 To 10 y = Random(0,100) 'Generate numbers. message = message & y & crlf Next x MsgBox "Ten numbers for the lottery: " & crlf & message End Sub -- Chunhui Chen ______________ Beijing Normal University & University of California, Irvine 在2007-11-04，"c.wahlheim (Jacoby Lab @ Wash U)" 写道： Hi, I am fairly new to ePrime and brand new to this group. I am trying to program an experiment in which false feedback is given to incorrect responses on a recognition memory test. Specifically, I would like the false feedback "correct" to only be displayed 85% of the time that an incorrect response is produced (e.g., false alarm, miss). I was thinking that I could use a random number generator along with an "if" command to do this. Does anyone know how to write the inline code for a random number generator? Thanks, Chris --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chunhuichen at 126.com Sun Nov 4 03:28:22 2007 From: chunhuichen at 126.com (chen) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:28:22 +0800 Subject: how to call other exe file in Eprime? Message-ID: Hi, I used to write Visual Basic scripts and now I want to use Eprime. But i don't know how to call executive function in Eprime. Here is want I wrote in VB (1) declare function Public Declare Function ShellExecute Lib "shell32.dll" Alias _ "ShellExecuteA" _ (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal lpOperation As String, _ ByVal lpFile As String, _ ByVal lpParameters As String, _ ByVal lpDirectory As String, _ ByVal nShowCmd As Long) As Long (2) call executive file ShellExecute(NULL,"open","calc.exe",NULL,NULL,SW_SHOWNORMAL); Now I want to call an executive file in Eprime, How to do that? Besides, I have a USB device which can not only send a response signal but also generate a special number. It can be used as serial port device in VB, i can not only get the response but also get the number, How can i use it in Eprime? How can I control a serial port in Eprime? Thank you very much! -- Chunhui Chen ______________ Beijing Normal University & University of California, Irvine --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From die.carrie at gmail.com Mon Nov 5 15:03:48 2007 From: die.carrie at gmail.com (c.frosch@reading.ac.uk) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 07:03:48 -0800 Subject: feedback object - correct answer one of many In-Reply-To: <1193684197.648182.282270@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Matt, I'm really sorry to be coming back at you with this. I've inserted the bits of script as you suggested (I think), but I now don't know how to tell the 'Stimulus' object what the correct response is, i.e. how does it now to get its input from the pieces of script I have added. Thank you ever so much for all of your help! Caren --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Mon Nov 5 19:20:06 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:20:06 -0500 Subject: how to call other exe file in Eprime? In-Reply-To: <26792707.436681194146902308.JavaMail.coremail@bj126app56.1 26.com> Message-ID: At 11/3/2007 11:28 PM Saturday, Chunhui Chen wrote: >Hi, I used to write Visual Basic scripts and now I want to use >Eprime. But i don't know how to call executive function in Eprime. > >Here is want I wrote in VB >(1) declare function >Public Declare Function ShellExecute Lib "shell32.dll" Alias _ >"ShellExecuteA" _ >(ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal lpOperation As String, _ >ByVal lpFile As String, _ >ByVal lpParameters As String, _ >ByVal lpDirectory As String, _ >ByVal nShowCmd As Long) As Long >(2) call executive file >ShellExecute(NULL,"open","calc.exe",NULL,NULL,SW_SHOWNORMAL); Have you just tried this in E-Prime? This looks very much like what I did several years ago to get direct access to the Windows API in order to use some extra keyboard functions (that was before I learned that I could do the same thing by testing for key offsets ). The whole "Public Declare ..." stuff works just like in VB, of course you have to put your .dll file in the right place, etc. But I don't know anything about ShellExecute, perhaps that is where you're getting stuck. Is there some compelling reason that you need to call external executables instead of just making your whole experiment work in "the E-Prime" way? --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From chunhuichen at 126.com Tue Nov 6 03:12:26 2007 From: chunhuichen at 126.com (chen) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:12:26 +0800 Subject: how to call other exe file in Eprime? In-Reply-To: <472f6ce9.3ff8220a.772c.fffffd3aSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thank you! I copyed the declare syntax to user script window (without "public" before "declare") and in an inline object used the ShellExecute function. But it seem Eprime just skiped this function. No error, but just ignore this function. The same script works well in VB. Why I have to use external function is I have a special device, it not only used as response switch, but also used as a signal generator, I used VB script not only detact a key press but also receive a signal from the device. VB script fulfill this by calling an executive function. Since eprime is very good at timing, I want to write script using Eprime, but also need to use my old device. So I hope I can call that executive function in Eprime. "ShellExecute" is a dll file I used to call that executive function in VB, If you can help me to find some way to call an executive function, i do not need to use ShellExecute. Or can you give me an Eprime example of use external function? Thank you very much! -- Chunhui Chen ______________ Beijing Normal University & University of California, Irvine 在2007-11-06，"David McFarlane" 写道： At 11/3/2007 11:28 PM Saturday, Chunhui Chen wrote: >Hi, I used to write Visual Basic scripts and now I want to use >Eprime. But i don't know how to call executive function in Eprime. > >Here is want I wrote in VB >(1) declare function >Public Declare Function ShellExecute Lib "shell32.dll" Alias _ >"ShellExecuteA" _ >(ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal lpOperation As String, _ >ByVal lpFile As String, _ >ByVal lpParameters As String, _ >ByVal lpDirectory As String, _ >ByVal nShowCmd As Long) As Long >(2) call executive file >ShellExecute(NULL,"open","calc.exe",NULL,NULL,SW_SHOWNORMAL); Have you just tried this in E-Prime? This looks very much like what I did several years ago to get direct access to the Windows API in order to use some extra keyboard functions (that was before I learned that I could do the same thing by testing for key offsets ). The whole "Public Declare ..." stuff works just like in VB, of course you have to put your .dll file in the right place, etc. But I don't know anything about ShellExecute, perhaps that is where you're getting stuck. Is there some compelling reason that you need to call external executables instead of just making your whole experiment work in "the E-Prime" way? --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt.lenhart at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 14:11:14 2007 From: matt.lenhart at gmail.com (Matt Lenhart) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:11:14 -0000 Subject: how to call other exe file in Eprime? In-Reply-To: <29824861.842301194318746043.JavaMail.coremail@bj126app88.126.com> Message-ID: Hello, Please take a look at the new sample I added, ModalShellExecute.es. This method will work for some applications. The file suspends E- Prime, opens Notepad, and then resumes the experiment once Notepad is closed. You will simply need to replace Notepad with the application you desire. In general, many of our users have been able to use this sample to run various applications, but specific testing by PST for applications other than Notepad has not been performed. Keep in mind that additional programming may be required to allow the following sample to work with the external application you want to use. - Matt PST Technical Consultant http://pstnet.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Tue Nov 6 15:46:23 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:46:23 -0500 Subject: how to call other exe file in Eprime? In-Reply-To: <29824861.842301194318746043.JavaMail.coremail@bj126app88.1 26.com> Message-ID: Matt's response should help you to call an external .exe (thanks, Matt), however... At 11/5/2007 10:12 PM Monday, Chunhui Chen wrote: >I have a special device, it not only used as response switch, but >also used as a signal generator, I used VB script not only detact a >key press but also receive a signal from the device. VB script >fulfill this by calling an executive function. If you only need to read a digital signal from the device, why not just use E-Prime's built-in "ReadPort()" function? You had to use an external .exe in VB because VB does not provide any functions to read from or write to arbitrary I/O ports, but one of the virtues of E-Prime is that this ability is already built in with the added ReadPort() and WritePort methods. You might want to give that a try. --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From matt.lenhart at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 17:35:09 2007 From: matt.lenhart at gmail.com (Matt Lenhart) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:35:09 -0000 Subject: how to call other exe file in Eprime? In-Reply-To: <47308c54.3ff8220a.772c.ffffcedbSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: As for using a USB device, E-Prime does not directly support communications with the USB bus. However, E-Prime can call into DLL functions and can use the CreateObject API to attach to some COM objects. The best advice we can give you, if you choose to use the DLL- faciliated USB connection, is to refer to the Declare statement in E-Basic Help. Before attempting to do this, however, we stress that even if communication can be obtained, we worry about the accuracy of the timing for what you will receive. This would, however, at least allow you to communicate with the device without using an external application. If the device is recognized as a serial device in Windows, you can use E-Prime's built-in serial port communication functions. - Matt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From chunhuichen at 126.com Tue Nov 6 18:33:34 2007 From: chunhuichen at 126.com (chen) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 02:33:34 +0800 Subject: how to call other exe file in Eprime? In-Reply-To: <47308c54.3ff8220a.772c.ffffcedbSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Matt and David, Thank you! -- Chunhui Chen ______________ Beijing Normal University & University of California, Irvine 在2007-11-06，"David McFarlane" 写道： Matt's response should help you to call an external .exe (thanks, Matt), however... At 11/5/2007 10:12 PM Monday, Chunhui Chen wrote: >I have a special device, it not only used as response switch, but >also used as a signal generator, I used VB script not only detact a >key press but also receive a signal from the device. VB script >fulfill this by calling an executive function. If you only need to read a digital signal from the device, why not just use E-Prime's built-in "ReadPort()" function? You had to use an external .exe in VB because VB does not provide any functions to read from or write to arbitrary I/O ports, but one of the virtues of E-Prime is that this ability is already built in with the added ReadPort() and WritePort methods. You might want to give that a try. --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Tue Nov 6 22:19:36 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:19:36 -0500 Subject: Caching stimuli Message-ID: I understand the importance of caching video and audio stimuli for critical timing (see, e.g., Chapter 3 of the E-Prime User's Guide). However, I have failed to find any actual examples of how to do stimulus caching in E-Prime. Does anyone have an example? Thanks. --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From nkonstantinou at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 10:37:57 2007 From: nkonstantinou at gmail.com (Nikos Konstantinou) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:37:57 +0000 Subject: Trigger Rapid2 TMS stimulator Message-ID: Hi all, I would appreciate it if anybody has any helpful suggestions: 1. I am connecting a TMS Magstim Rapid2 stimulator with a pc that is running Eprime. Every time I press "save" or "run" on the Eprime software the stimulator is triggered! It is doing that with any Eprime scirpt! I don't want it to do that but instead I want the stimulator to be triggered at an output percentage value defined in Eprime, and at the specific time defined in Eprime. 2. I need to determine Phosphenes thresholds expressed as percentages of the TMS machine output. I am quoting the procedure from a recent paper: * "Phosphene thresholds were determined using a modified binary search paradigm (MOBS) that determines the upper and lower limits for the thresholds, expressed as percentages of the TMS machine output. The point midway between these limits was tested and the limits adjusted according to the subject's response. On each trial either the upper or lower limit of the range was updated depending on whether a phosphene was detected on the previous trial. If a phosphene was detected, the TMS machine value became the new upper limit. If a phosphene was not detected the TMS value was set as the lower limit. The new midpoint was then used as the test level on the next trial (For details of adjustments in cases of successive "seen" or "not seen" reports see Tyrell & Owens). The threshold was determined as being reached when the direction of the steps made by the test value had changed five times, or when the difference between the lower and upper limits was no more than 2% of the stimulator output."* In the past we have done what I descipe above on oder TMS stimulators. I uploaded a file called "TMStriggerHL" in case anyone wants to take a look. Cheers, Nikos --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ruthvan.holst at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 10:08:31 2007 From: ruthvan.holst at gmail.com (Ruth) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:08:31 -0000 Subject: Help with GoNoGo task Message-ID: Hello! I am pretty new with using e-prime and I have got some difficulties with making a trial the way I want it to. I hope someone can help me with this problem. I have a random block design GoNoGo task, created with nested lists. My task will have 4 different conditions with affective go stimuli and neutral nogo stimuli. For 3 conditions the trials will be like, seeing/ reacting to stimuli, fixation cross and than, when the whole list is run, going to the next condition. Now comes my difficulty: In 1 specific condition, I want my subjects to answer questions after they have reacted to all the go and nogo stimuli in that condition. How can I do this? I tried to make different procedures for my normal conditions and my special condition, but what happens is that subjects will just see one stimuli and than will be prompted with one question, instead of first completing all my gonogo stimuli and than answering all my questions at once. Because of my randomization I do not know when this special condition is shown, and I really need my subjects to fill in the questionnaire after that specific condition and not just after all conditions have been run. I really hope that someone can help me with this problem! Thanks in advance!! Ruth --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Nov 9 15:05:09 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:05:09 -0500 Subject: PackageCalls in E-Prime 2.0 Message-ID: Does any one understand the situation with PackageCalls in E-Prime 2.0 standard vs. Professional? Over on the PST User Forum, PST staff (Brandon) wrote, "Most scenarios where directly editing the E-Basic script will be able to be accomplished in E-Prime 2.0 Professional using Package files." Does this mean that Standard cannot use PackageCalls at all? Or does it mean that Standard can *use* PackageCalls, but only Professional will include a Package file editor? The second scenario is the only one that makes sense, but we need to know so that we know what versions we need to buy and install. In particular, if we build an E-Prime program in Professional using Package files that we made with the Package file editor, will we still be able to run the resulting E-Run file using E-Run Standard, or will that run only with E-Run Professional? For that matter, is there any difference at all between E-Run standard and Professional, or are all the differences just in E-Studio standard vs. Professional? Thanks for your help. --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From matt.lenhart at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 15:36:19 2007 From: matt.lenhart at gmail.com (Matt Lenhart) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 15:36:19 -0000 Subject: Trigger Rapid2 TMS stimulator In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Nikos, In regards to the first issue, this may occur if you have a hardware key that attaches to your parallel port. When saving or running (which automatically saves by default), E-Prime will check for the hardware key, and this may result in signals being sent to the parallel port, which may inadvertently trigger your equipment. - Matt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From nkonstantinou at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 16:14:07 2007 From: nkonstantinou at gmail.com (Nikos Konstantinou) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:14:07 +0000 Subject: Trigger Rapid2 TMS stimulator In-Reply-To: <1194622579.667625.116420@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Matt, Excellent point! Attaching a hardware key does not trigger the stimulator when saving or running. Thanks a lot N On Nov 9, 2007 3:36 PM, Matt Lenhart wrote: > > Hi Nikos, > > In regards to the first issue, this may occur if you have a hardware > key that attaches to your parallel port. When saving or running (which > automatically saves by default), E-Prime will check for the hardware > key, and this may result in signals being sent to the parallel port, > which may inadvertently trigger your equipment. > > > - Matt > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jenifan at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 15:37:15 2007 From: jenifan at gmail.com (Jeni) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:37:15 -0000 Subject: Help with response bar Message-ID: Hi everyone, I'm looking for a way to program in E-Basic a response scale that is vertically oriented and has a drag tab that can be dragged along the bar so the participant can give a "rating". Preferably, it would look like the volume controls in windows. Thanks for any feedback!!! :) -Jeni --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From puffpastryhangman at googlemail.com Mon Nov 12 16:25:33 2007 From: puffpastryhangman at googlemail.com (puffpastryhangman at googlemail.com) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:25:33 -0800 Subject: First time E Prime In-Reply-To: <1193324604.979120.228670@z9g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi, I'm currently trying to implement a similar experiment, I have already got E-prime playing my audio stimuli, but I don't know how to make it record responses to these (subjects will listen to mathematical equations being read and speak the answers), ideally I would like to set this up so that E-prime can also record a reaction time for the onset of the spoken answer. If anyone has any knowledge of implementing this kind of task I would greatly appreciate some help. Cheers, Richard On Oct 25, 3:03 pm, "matt.lenh... at gmail.com" wrote: > Hello, > > Peter's reply was very helpful. I thought I would add more formal > instructions for anyone interested: > > In any experiment in which you wish to present sound, the Sound Device > on the Experiment Object of your E-Prime experiment must be configured > for the same audio format as your sound files. Otherwise, a runtime > error will occur. > > Please check the audio formats of your wav files. You can do this by > opening the files in Windows Sound Recorder (in XP) and, under the > File menu, selecting Properties. You should choose a format that is > directly supported by E-Prime (8 bit or 16 bit; 11025 Hz, 22050Hz or > 44100Hz; stereo or mono), and all of your wav files that will be used > in this experiment should be saved in that format. Note that, > unfortunately, Windows Vista's Sound Recorder does not let you check/ > set these properties, so you would need to use a third party > application in this case. > > Then, open the Experiment Object (by double-clicking it in the > Structure window of your experiment), click on the Devices tab, and > select the Sound Device. If you click Edit, you will be able to see > the current configuration and make changes to match the audio format > of your wav file(s). Once the settings of your Sound Device and WAV > files match, please try to run your experiment again. > > Matt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From jeff.larsen at ttu.edu Mon Nov 12 17:18:36 2007 From: jeff.larsen at ttu.edu (Larsen, Jeff) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:18:36 -0600 Subject: Help with response bar In-Reply-To: <1194881835.451081.157350@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Jeni -- This might do the trick. It's from Eprime 1.0. -- Jeff ******************************************************* Jeff T. Larsen, PhD Department of Psychology Texas Tech University Phone: 806-742-3711 x234 Fax: 806-742-0818 Email: jeff.larsen at ttu.edu Webpage: http://webpages.acs.ttu.edu/jelarsen ******************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeni Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:37 AM To: E-Prime Subject: Help with response bar Hi everyone, I'm looking for a way to program in E-Basic a response scale that is vertically oriented and has a drag tab that can be dragged along the bar so the participant can give a "rating". Preferably, it would look like the volume controls in windows. Thanks for any feedback!!! :) -Jeni --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: VerticalVisualAnalog.es Type: application/octet-stream Size: 9755 bytes Desc: VerticalVisualAnalog.es URL: From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Mon Nov 12 19:10:58 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:10:58 -0500 Subject: First time E Prime In-Reply-To: <1194884733.984765.239180@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: >I have already got E-prime playing my audio stimuli, but I don't know how to >make it record responses to these What version of E-Prime are you using? Audio recording was just added in E-Prime 2.0 (the SoundIn object), it is not available in versions 1.x. Regards, -- David --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From E.Hartstra at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 11:15:42 2007 From: E.Hartstra at gmail.com (Egbert Hartstra) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:15:42 -0800 Subject: paired Stop Signal Task Message-ID: Dear E-Prime users, I am a relatively unexperienced programmer and I now have to program a stop signal paradigm in E-Prime. This is what I have so far: I have a list with all my stimuli, out of which a random selection will be made. Within this list, I have nested a signal list which contains 1s and 0s. Out of this signal list also, a random selection is made. The word, paired with the signal coding, will then enter an inline which specifies the trial type (Stop Trial or Go Trial). I also have the delay algorithm implemented (+50ms on a succesful trial, -50ms otherwise). My problem however is that a certain amount of the trials have to be presented twice (and only twice) and that these trials must also have a random signal code attached to them. My idea was to attach (throug another nested list) a repeat/no-repeat code to make sure that the word is presented twice whenever the repeat attribute reads 1 or something like that but I haven't been succesful so far. My question thus is: How do I make sure that I get a list of trials in which some (around 2/3)stimuli are repeated (after lag 1 or lag 5, should be equal amounts), all stimuli are selected randomly, and the experiment is made up out of 1/3, randomly assigned signal trials. To be clear: if a certain stimulus is repeated, it may, on the first occurance, have a signal coding and in the second occurance a no signal coding (or whatever kind of combination, this should be random). I hope this problem is solvable. In any case, thanks very much in advance. E. Hartstra. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From jenifan at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 19:37:55 2007 From: jenifan at gmail.com (Jeni) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:37:55 -0000 Subject: Help with response bar In-Reply-To: <56FAB47A25922149BB91D62B843E2E5B998908@CEBREN.net.ttu.edu> Message-ID: Thank you so much for responding. I will try this out. On Nov 12, 11:18 am, "Larsen, Jeff" wrote: > Hi Jeni -- > This might do the trick. It's from Eprime 1.0. > -- Jeff > > ******************************************************* > Jeff T. Larsen, PhD > Department of Psychology > Texas Tech University > Phone: 806-742-3711 x234 > Fax: 806-742-0818 > Email: jeff.lar... at ttu.edu > Webpage:http://webpages.acs.ttu.edu/jelarsen > ******************************************************* > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On > > Behalf Of Jeni > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:37 AM > To: E-Prime > Subject: Help with response bar > > Hi everyone, > > I'm looking for a way to program in E-Basic a response scale that is > vertically oriented and has a drag tab that can be dragged along the > bar so the participant can give a "rating". Preferably, it would look > like the volume controls in windows. > > Thanks for any feedback!!! :) > > -Jeni > > > > VerticalVisualAnalog.es > 12KDownload- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From giulia.bencini at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 20:42:49 2007 From: giulia.bencini at gmail.com (Giulia Bencini) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:42:49 -0500 Subject: some sound files chopped off before end and not others Message-ID: Hi, I am having problems with some sound files being chopped off at the end. Here's the context: On a slide trial a picture appears, along with an audio object (sentence describing the picture) - 2-3 seconds long) and a text box under the picture with the sentence in writing. Despite the fact that the sound buffer is set to one minute and a half and that the length specification is long enough for each sound file, some of the sentences are chopped off at the end. This occurs in 4/50 of our sentences. I am not sure if anyone can help with this. Thanks! Giulia Bencini Post-doctoral Rsearch Scientist Language Acquisition Research Center Hunter College 695 Park Avenue New York NY 10021 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From pquain at une.edu.au Tue Nov 13 23:18:38 2007 From: pquain at une.edu.au (Peter Quain) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:18:38 +1100 Subject: some sound files chopped off before end and not others In-Reply-To: Message-ID: same 4 each run? At 07:42 AM 14/11/2007, you wrote: >Hi, > >I am having problems with some sound files being chopped off at the >end. Here's the context: On a slide trial a picture appears, along >with an audio object (sentence describing the picture) - 2-3 seconds >long) and a text box under the picture with the sentence in writing. >Despite the fact that the sound buffer is set to one minute and a half >and that the length specification is long enough for each sound file, >some of the sentences are chopped off at the end. This occurs in 4/50 >of our sentences. I am not sure if anyone can help with this. > >Thanks! > > >Giulia Bencini >Post-doctoral Rsearch Scientist >Language Acquisition Research Center >Hunter College >695 Park Avenue >New York >NY 10021 > >> > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1126 - Release Date: >12/11/2007 12:56 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1128 - Release Date: 13/11/2007 11:09 AM --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From puffpastryhangman at googlemail.com Thu Nov 15 17:07:25 2007 From: puffpastryhangman at googlemail.com (puffpastryhangman at googlemail.com) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:07:25 -0800 Subject: First time E Prime In-Reply-To: <4738a553.35e3220a.594d.2808SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Ah, I'm still on E-prime 1.2x or something, thanks very much for the response. Do you know if this SoundIn object is present in E-prime 2.0 or just E-prime 2.0 professional? Cheers, Richard On Nov 12, 7:10 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > >I have already got E-prime playing my audio stimuli, but I don't know how to > >make it record responses to these > > What version of E-Prime are you using? Audio recording was just > added in E-Prime 2.0 (the SoundIn object), it is not available in versions 1.x. > > Regards, > -- David > > --- > David McFarlane, Systems Designer > Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University > mcfar... at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 > Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Thu Nov 15 17:57:50 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:57:50 -0500 Subject: some sound files chopped off before end and not others In-Reply-To: <20071113231842.VDCV1391.oaamta01sl.mx.bigpond.com@tardis.u ne.edu.au> Message-ID: At 11/13/2007 06:18 PM Tuesday, Peter Quain wrote: >same 4 each run? Yes, Giulia confirmed that it was the same four sound files each time. More importantly, the durations of those four files were longer than the duration of the Slide object, which was the source of the problem. Case solved. -- dkm --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 >At 07:42 AM 14/11/2007, Giulia Bencini wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I am having problems with some sound files being chopped off at the > >end. Here's the context: On a slide trial a picture appears, along > >with an audio object (sentence describing the picture) - 2-3 seconds > >long) and a text box under the picture with the sentence in writing. > >Despite the fact that the sound buffer is set to one minute and a half > >and that the length specification is long enough for each sound file, > >some of the sentences are chopped off at the end. This occurs in 4/50 > >of our sentences. I am not sure if anyone can help with this. > > > >Thanks! > > > > > >Giulia Bencini > >Post-doctoral Rsearch Scientist > >Language Acquisition Research Center > >Hunter College > >695 Park Avenue > >New York > >NY 10021 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Thu Nov 15 20:38:49 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:38:49 -0500 Subject: First time E Prime In-Reply-To: <7999f12a-692d-4c1a-bd2a-88978cddd759@p69g2000hsa.googlegro ups.com> Message-ID: Richard, >Ah, I'm still on E-prime 1.2x or something, thanks very much for the >response. Do you know if this SoundIn object is present in E-prime 2.0 >or just E-prime 2.0 professional? PST web page says that SoundIn is available with both Pro and non-Pro flavors of 2.0, see here: www.pstnet.com/products/e%2Dprime/. In case you are thinking of upgrading, you should know that the two flavors are not compatible -- non-Pro will not use programs made in Pro, and Pro might use non-Pro versions but only through some tortuous editing procedures (I will post a separate message about this to the list soon). PST will not tell you this, at least they did not tell us, we found out the hard way. When I spoke again to PST staff today, I learned that the non-Pro version is not a serious offering, it is only meant for those who really have absolutely no more money to spend, otherwise you are supposed to buy Professional. This could create havoc if you ever collaborate with others who do not use the same flavor of 2.0 as you. Fair warning. >On Nov 12, 7:10 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > > >I have already got E-prime playing my audio stimuli, but I don't > know how to > > >make it record responses to these > > > > What version of E-Prime are you using? Audio recording was just > > added in E-Prime 2.0 (the SoundIn object), it is not available in > versions 1.x. -- David --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Nov 16 15:02:30 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:02:30 -0500 Subject: E-Prime 2.0 price list Message-ID: Perhaps it's just me, but I had a devil of a time untangling the E-Prime 2.0 prices from the table at the PST web site (www.pstnet.com/products/e%2Dprime/#Pricing). So I spoke to PST staff, puzzled further over their web page, and rearranged the data in a form that made more sense to me. Here is what I came up with, in case it is of use to anyone else. (Tip: This may look better with a fixed-width font.) Full price: Up to 31 Dec 2007 non-Professional $695 Professional $795 After 31 Dec 2007 non-Professional $895 Professional $995 E-Prime 1.x purchases made before 1 Dec 2004 are "non-eligible", which is PST-ese for qualifying for some upgrade pricing but not the best, not to be confused with "full price": Up to 31 Dec 2007 non-Professional $395 Professional $495 After 31 Dec 2007 non-Professional $495 (still less than full price) Professional $595 (still less than full price) E-Prime 1.x purchases made between 1 Dec 2004 and 1 Oct 2007 are "eligible", which is PST-ese for qualifying for the best upgrade pricing: Up to 31 Dec 2007 Professional $295 After 31 Dec 2007 Professional $395 Up to 1 Apr 2008 non-Professional "Free" (see extended note below) After 1 Apr 2008 non-Professional $495 (i.e., same as "non-eligible", see above) Professional $595 (i.e., same as "non-eligible", see above) The "free" upgrade to non-Pro needs some explanation. You have two choices: (1) Pay shipping to send your 1.x hardware key back to PST, they will exchange it for a special key that allows you to run either 1.x or 2.0 non-Pro on one computer; (2) Pay $30 to have PST send you a new key to run 2.0 non-Pro -- you keep your old 1.x key, allowing you to run both 1.x and 2.0 non-Pro on one or two computers. That's it. Well, there are also quantity discounts for new (not upgrade) purchases, but this is complicated enough. I think most people who upgrade from 1.x to 2.0 non-Pro would pay the $30 for the extra key. But that is academic if most upgraders instead move right up to Professional. The "free" upgrade to non-Pro does make it seem that non-Pro is the expected upgrade path from 1.x. However, there are significant incompatibilies between programs made with Pro & non-Pro (I am still exploring the details on this for a later post), so you must buy the right version at the outset. Acording to PST staff I spoke with, the non-Pro version is only meant for those who really are down to their last dollar, otherwise everyone is just supposed to purchase Pro. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From taylor.newton at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 17:25:48 2007 From: taylor.newton at gmail.com (Taylor Newton) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:25:48 -0800 Subject: gone, baby, gone Message-ID: Hi, I just posted another question about port initialization, but this is a separate issue. I worked hours on a fairly complicated script yesterday saving it as I went along and running parts of it as they were completed. It crashed quite a bit as I worked, but when I finished everything seemed fine. I saved it on my desktop and on our department's server, but when I went back to it later, it was GONE in both places! The file name was still there in both places, but there was nothing behind it (0 bytes). Further, the E-run script was still there and I can still run the experiment from that. My questions are 1) what happened? and 2) is there a way to backwrite erun to estudio? I'm not that familiar with the syntax and need to make some detailed changes to the program. Any and all help is much appreciated! Taylor --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From taylor.newton at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 17:20:47 2007 From: taylor.newton at gmail.com (Taylor Newton) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:20:47 -0800 Subject: parallel port won't initialize to 0 Message-ID: Hi, I'm using a BioPac system with Eprime triggering events through the parallel port to digital channels D8-D15. Everything works great, but channel D15 is always on (equals 1). The same is true for digital channels D0-D7. I can't get 8 channels at one time to initialize to 0 so that I can get correct trigger numbers. Any ideas? Is this an eprime problem? This is the script I am using to initilize the port: WritePort &H378, 0 Dim StartTime1 as Single Dim TimerDuration1 as Single TimerDuration1 = .005 StartTime1 = Timer do WritePort &H0378, 99 Loop Until Timer > StartTime1 + TimerDuration1 WritePort &H0378,0 And then to send the triggers: WritePort &H378, 0 WritePort &H378, c.getattrib("Trigger") Any help is much appreciated! Taylor --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Nov 16 19:01:44 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:01:44 -0500 Subject: gone, baby, gone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Taylor, To answer only your second question... >2) is there a way to backwrite erun to estudio? No, there is no way to create an E-Studio (.es) file from an E-Run (.ebs) file. In case you wrote extensive inline script and still use version 1.x, you can at least copy & paste that script from your .ebs file into new inline objects in a fresh .es file -- tedious, but it's something. For that matter, if you can read the E-Basic code then you can uncover the complete structure of your experiment and the properties of all your objects, so you would have something to build on. Just so you know, even this will no longer be possible in version 2.0, as in 2.0 the .ebs files are no longer plain script text but are bin.base46 encoded xml. Regards, -- David --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Nov 16 20:38:25 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:38:25 -0500 Subject: E-Prime 2.0 Pro vs. non-Pro incompatibilities Message-ID: Jodene talked with Matt at PST and came away with the following: "1. Standard e-run will not run a script file compiled with eprime pro. "2. Pro will run a standard experiment only after it is converted to pro, which you do by opening a new experiment, selecting to make the new experiment 'standard' and then cutting/pasting the pro experiment into the standard experiment." I am afraid that this information set me on the wrong track in some posts elsewhere (I should know better than to trust PST to get their facts straight :)). I finally ran my own tests using one machine with Professional and another with non-Pro, and got much better results: - An .ebs2 (E-Run) file generated by non-Pro will run in E-Run Pro. - An .ebs2 file file generated by Pro will run in E-Run non-Pro, at least if it does not use any Pro features (I did not test any Pro features). - An .es2 (E-Studio) file made in non-Pro will open in E-Studio Pro. - An .es2 file made in Pro will *not* (repeat, *not*) open in E-Studio Pro. - Finally (pay attention here), an .es2 file made in non-Pro will open in E-Studio Pro, and if you change that file in Pro and save it, the resulting .es2 file will *still* open back in non-Pro (hooray!), at least if it does not use any Pro features (I did not test any Pro features). So the only problem comes with sharing .es2 files written in Pro with others who do not have Pro, even if those experiments do not use any Pro features. Everything else works as I would expect. I then confirmed the above with Matt (thanks). As Matt explained, 2.0 is still in rapid development (i.e., 2.0 is not stable), this behavior already differs from its behavior a week or so ago, and this behavior may change again at any moment. I hope this clarifies the situation somewhat and helps folks make upgrade and purchasing decisions. If you want some extra technical details, read on, otherwise stop here... In versions 1.x all the files were plain text files, and could be opened in any text editor for viewing, printing, and even editing. In 2.0, the .ebs2 files for both Pro and non-Pro are still text files in a sense, but it is all xml text. In particular, the generated .ebs2 script is no longer readable text but is bin.base64 encoded, presumably already compiled into executable form. Also, when I generated the same experiment in both Pro and non-Pro, I found that the xml headers were identical (except for the file date & time), and the bin.base64 data started out identical, but then soon diverged. I do not have the skills to explore that any further. The non-Pro .es2 files are also xml, although everything else is pretty much the same thing as in the 1.x .es files. However, .es2 files that are *originated* in Pro are completely binary without a shred of text (even the text of my Text objects does not appear as text in the .es2 Pro file). But .es2 files that originate in non-Pro, get opened in Pro, then saved again, preserve the xml structure of the original non-Pro .es2 (at least, as long as no Pro features are added). Once again, I stress this is all subject to change during the rapid development of 2.0. -- David --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From beamgau at gmx.de Sat Nov 17 10:37:09 2007 From: beamgau at gmx.de (beamgau) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:37:09 -0800 Subject: Experiments on Palm-Handheld-Computers Message-ID: Dear E-prime-group, at my new workplace, they are using palm-handheld-devices for basic diagnostics with several questionaires. Has anyone of you any experience with programming little experiments on palm-handhelds? at the moment, i would like to have something like the d2-attention- test... are there any web-ressources or tutorials? Thank you Felix --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From zajdeld at ohsu.edu Mon Nov 19 16:48:03 2007 From: zajdeld at ohsu.edu (Daniel Zajdel) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:48:03 -0800 Subject: Experiments on Palm-Handheld-Computers Message-ID: This is an important emerging area of potential. My group would essentially like to run eprime on Windows Mobile. We have a 24 hour ambulatory EEG device and are aiming to do cognitive testing complete with bluetooth synchronization to the EEG and it would be great to give versions of the same tasks we do in the lab. For the time being the solution is programming your own experiments in C or something. >>> beamgau at gmx.de 11/17/07 2:37 AM >>> Dear E-prime-group, at my new workplace, they are using palm-handheld-devices for basic diagnostics with several questionaires. Has anyone of you any experience with programming little experiments on palm-handhelds? at the moment, i would like to have something like the d2-attention- test... are there any web-ressources or tutorials? Thank you Felix --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From alex.marchant at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 17:47:34 2007 From: alex.marchant at gmail.com (alex.marchant at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:47:34 -0800 Subject: Incremental adjustments to participant's response Message-ID: Dear E-prime group, I believe a question like this was answered back before the group went onto google (I dimly remember something to do with adjusting the length of a line), but I've lost a lot of my past messages and so can't dig it out. I want to get participants to either... click on a circle and 'drag it' bigger or smaller, and then record the final 'resting' size of the circle or... make the circle incrementally bigger or smaller (preferably a pixel at a time) by pressing a button, and then logging the final size. At the moment I'm using E-prime to draw my stimuli. So something like... cnvs.Circle 640, 512, c.GetAttrib("TargetSize") Where the '640' and '512' are coordinates and the 'c.GetAttrib("TargetSize")' is the radius of the circle. Any help would be greatly appreciated on either or both (if you have the time!) questions. many thanks Alex Marchant MSc Goldsmiths, University of London --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From chunhuichen at 126.com Mon Nov 19 19:06:13 2007 From: chunhuichen at 126.com (chen) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 03:06:13 +0800 Subject: Incremental adjustments to participant's response In-Reply-To: <9ad16679-eaf4-4a0a-b370-f69ee3d89868@l22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi, I don't konow how to draw circles, but i had wrote a program to change the fontsize automaticlly, maybe similar to your second question. "make the circle incrementally bigger or smaller (preferably a pixel at a time) by pressing a button, and then logging the final size." below are codes showing what I had done in my program, I just type in, not debuged yet, just showing the main idea. dim again as long dim radius as long again=1 radius=10 while again cnvs.Circle 640, 512, radius ' in my original program, it's a textdisplay object ' presenting a word, if there is a response, the object ' will disappear, Which object can draw circle? if object.response="a" then again=0 ' press "a" then finish elseif object.response="b" then radius=radius+1 ' press "b" darw larger circle else radius=radius-1 ' press other key draw small circle endif wend -- Chunhui Chen ______________ Beijing Normal University & University of California, Irvine 在2007-11-20，"alex.marchant at gmail.com" 写道： Dear E-prime group, I believe a question like this was answered back before the group went onto google (I dimly remember something to do with adjusting the length of a line), but I've lost a lot of my past messages and so can't dig it out. I want to get participants to either... click on a circle and 'drag it' bigger or smaller, and then record the final 'resting' size of the circle or... make the circle incrementally bigger or smaller (preferably a pixel at a time) by pressing a button, and then logging the final size. At the moment I'm using E-prime to draw my stimuli. So something like... cnvs.Circle 640, 512, c.GetAttrib("TargetSize") Where the '640' and '512' are coordinates and the 'c.GetAttrib("TargetSize")' is the radius of the circle. Any help would be greatly appreciated on either or both (if you have the time!) questions. many thanks Alex Marchant MSc Goldsmiths, University of London --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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Alex On Nov 19, 2007 7:06 PM, chen wrote: > > Hi, I don't konow how to draw circles, but i had wrote a program to change > the fontsize automaticlly, maybe similar to your second question. > > "make the circle incrementally bigger or smaller (preferably a pixel > at a time) by pressing a button, and then logging the final size." > > below are codes showing what I had done in my program, I just type in, not > debuged yet, just showing the main idea. > dim again as long > dim radius as long > > again=1 > radius=10 > > while again > cnvs.Circle 640, 512, radius ' in my original program, it's a > textdisplay object > ' presenting a word, if there is a > response, the object > ' will disappear, Which object can draw > circle? > if object.response="a" then > again=0 ' press "a" then finish > elseif object.response="b" then > radius=radius+1 ' press "b" darw larger circle > else > radius=radius-1 ' press other key draw small circle > endif > wend > > > > -- > Chunhui Chen > ______________ > > Beijing Normal University > & > University of California, Irvine > > 在2007-11-20，"alex.marchant at gmail.com" 写道： > > Dear E-prime group, > > I believe a question like this was answered back before the group went > onto google (I dimly remember something to do with adjusting the > length of a line), but I've lost a lot of my past messages and so > can't dig it out. > > I want to get participants to either... > > click on a circle and 'drag it' bigger or smaller, and then record the > final 'resting' size of the circle > > or... > > make the circle incrementally bigger or smaller (preferably a pixel > at a time) by pressing a button, and then logging the final size. > > At the moment I'm using E-prime to draw my stimuli. So something > like... > cnvs.Circle 640, 512, c.GetAttrib("TargetSize") > > Where the '640' and '512' are coordinates and the > 'c.GetAttrib("TargetSize")' is the radius of the circle. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated on either or both (if you have > the time!) questions. > > many thanks > > Alex Marchant MSc > Goldsmiths, University of London > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anais.kreitmann at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 19:38:43 2007 From: anais.kreitmann at gmail.com (AnaKrann) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:38:43 -0800 Subject: E-Prime Pausing? Message-ID: Hi, I work for UMDNJ and are currently trying to use our E-prime version 1 on babies. Unfortunately, some of these oftentimes come in after having been woken from their peaceful slumber and prove to be quite irritated when they are finally awake for the task. We were wondering if there was any possible way to PAUSE a task in the event of a crabby infant so as to not have to start the task all over after each mini- fits. Any suggestions? Is it even possible? I appreciate any and all help and thank you all in advance. Take care, AnaKrann --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Tue Nov 20 21:03:44 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:03:44 -0500 Subject: E-Prime 2.0 price list In-Reply-To: <473db11b.1c99220a.0a13.1984SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: My apologies for this repost, but as I said originally I found the E-Prime 2.0 price list on the PST web site horribly confusing. As it turns out I transposed two of the prices under Full Price, and this made it look like Professional full price is only $100 more than non-Pro, whereas it is actually $200 more. Here is the entire (and I hope this time fully correct) price list again, in all its detail. (Tip: The following table may look better with a fixed-width font.) Full price: Up to 31 Dec 2007 non-Professional $695 Professional $895 After 31 Dec 2007 non-Professional $795 Professional $995 E-Prime 1.x purchases made before 1 Dec 2004 are "non-eligible", which is PST-speak for qualifying for some upgrade pricing but not the best, not to be confused with "full price": Up to 31 Dec 2007 non-Professional $395 Professional $495 After 31 Dec 2007 non-Professional $495 (still less than full price) Professional $595 (still less than full price) E-Prime 1.x purchases made between 1 Dec 2004 and 1 Oct 2007 are "eligible", which is PST-speak for qualifying for the best upgrade pricing (Gary Schrock at MSU informs me that "eligible" should be taken to mean "eligible for a 'free' upgrade"): Up to 31 Dec 2007 Professional $295 After 31 Dec 2007 Professional $395 Up to 1 Apr 2008 non-Professional "Free" (see extended note below) After 1 Apr 2008 non-Professional $495 (i.e., same as "non-eligible", see above) Professional $595 (i.e., same as "non-eligible", see above) The "free" upgrade to non-Pro needs some explanation. You have two choices: (1) Pay shipping to send your 1.x hardware key back to PST, they will exchange it for a special key that allows you to run either 1.x or 2.0 non-Pro on one computer; (2) Pay $30 to have PST send you a new key to run 2.0 non-Pro -- you keep your old 1.x key, allowing you to run both 1.x and 2.0 non-Pro on one or two computers. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Tue Nov 20 21:19:52 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:19:52 -0500 Subject: E-Prime Pausing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: AnaKrann, >We were wondering if there was any possible way to PAUSE a task in >the event of a crabby >infant so as to not have to start the task all over after each mini-fits. You might try the GetUserBreakState() and SetUserBreakState methods, look these up in the E-Basic online help file. Pressing Ctrl+Shift any time during the experiment will set the user break state. You then have to catch this with inline script at some appropriate place in your experiment. Your inline script can then pause the experiment until you perform some action, then return to the experiment. Make sure to reset the user break state before your experiment continues! Here is a crude script example: If GetUserBreakState() Then MsgBox "Take a break" ' Displays a message until the user clicks OK SetUserBreakState 0 ' Make sure to reset this! End If You might instead have your script jump to some other object in your experiment, or do a List.Terminate, or run a TextDisplay object to wait for a key press, etc., but I hope you get the idea. Let me know if you need any more help. -- dkm --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Wed Nov 21 14:50:04 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David K McFarlane) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:50:04 -0500 Subject: E-Prime 2.0 Pro vs. non-Pro incompatibilities In-Reply-To: <473dffd2.35e3220a.0149.4065SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On Friday 16 Nov 2008 I wrote: > - An .ebs2 (E-Run) file generated by non-Pro will run in E-Run Pro. > - An .ebs2 file file generated by Pro will run in E-Run non-Pro, at > least if it does not use any Pro features (I did not test any Pro features). > - An .es2 (E-Studio) file made in non-Pro will open in E-Studio Pro. > - An .es2 file made in Pro will *not* (repeat, *not*) open in E-Studio Pro. > - Finally (pay attention here), an .es2 file made in non-Pro will > open in E-Studio Pro, and if you change that file in Pro and save it, > the resulting .es2 file will *still* open back in non-Pro (hooray!), > at least if it does not use any Pro features (I did not test any Pro features). And Anthony McGuffie at Coventry University found that I mis-typed the fourth point. I left off the "non-" from in front the second "Pro", which does not make sense. The fourth point should read, - An .es2 file made in Pro will *not* (repeat, *not*) open in E-Studio non-Pro. My apologies, -- David McFarlane --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From yerangs at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 23:14:10 2007 From: yerangs at gmail.com (maggie) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:14:10 -0800 Subject: can not read the font in the script window. Message-ID: Somehow, the font in the script window as well as all the inline objects has gone smaller and thicker all of sudden. Do anyone have ideas why and how I can revert it back? With many thanks --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From yanhyu at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 20:04:56 2007 From: yanhyu at gmail.com (Yan Yu) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:04:56 -0500 Subject: feedback object - correct answer one of many In-Reply-To: <1194275028.120589.259510@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Dear E-primers, I need your expertise on my experiment. I need to present 8 pictures on one screen to let the participants to choose four from the eight, then present them with correct choices once they finish picking the all four pictures. Accuracy can only be counted if all four pictures are correct. I have a total of 100 sets of pictures to present without any repetition. Could any of you give me some idea how to handle it? Thanks a lot! Yan from New York --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 16:22:40 2007 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:22:40 -0800 Subject: has anyone used eprime on an Intel mac? Message-ID: in our lab we run some studies in matlab, and others in eprime. it just occured to me that we might be able to run both using a single computer, and cut down on clutter in the testing space, if we could put eprime on a windows partition on our mac. any thoughts? has anyone tried this? ben --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From yanhyu at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 18:01:26 2007 From: yanhyu at gmail.com (Yan Yu) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:01:26 -0500 Subject: multiple choises and feedback Message-ID: Dear E-primers, I need your expertise on my experiment. I need to present 8 pictures on one screen to let the participants to choose four from the eight, then present them with correct choices once they finish picking all four pictures. Accuracy can only be counted if all four pictures are correct. I have a total of 100 sets of pictures to present without any repetition. I can use silde object to present 8 pictures, but have no idea how to collect all four choices for one trial, and how to present the correct choices after their choice. Any response is greatly appreciately Thanks a lot! Yan The Graduate Center, City University of New York --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yanhyu at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 18:42:59 2007 From: yanhyu at gmail.com (Yan Yu) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:42:59 -0500 Subject: multiple choises and feedback In-Reply-To: <13647788.6381196102372908.JavaMail.coremail@bj126app55.126.com> Message-ID: Thanks very much! Yan On 11/26/07, chen wrote: > > > Maybe you should try other programming software such as matlab or Visual > Basic > > > > -- > Chunhui Chen > ______________ > > Beijing Normal University > & > University of California, Irvine > > 在2007-11-27，"Yan Yu" 写道： > > Dear E-primers, > > I need your expertise on my experiment. > I need to present 8 pictures on one screen to let the participants to > choose four from the eight, then present them with correct choices > once they finish picking all four pictures. Accuracy can only be > counted if all four pictures are correct. I have a total of 100 sets > of pictures to present without any repetition. > > I can use silde object to present 8 pictures, but have no idea how to > collect all four choices for one trial, and how to present the correct > choices after their choice. > > Any response is greatly appreciately > > Thanks a lot! > > Yan > The Graduate Center, City University of New York > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chunhuichen at 126.com Mon Nov 26 18:39:32 2007 From: chunhuichen at 126.com (chen) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:39:32 +0800 Subject: multiple choises and feedback In-Reply-To: <54ff1cf0711261001v57493464leae99f69d994cafb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Maybe you should try other programming software such as matlab or Visual Basic -- Chunhui Chen ______________ Beijing Normal University & University of California, Irvine 在2007-11-27，"Yan Yu" 写道： Dear E-primers, I need your expertise on my experiment. I need to present 8 pictures on one screen to let the participants to choose four from the eight, then present them with correct choices once they finish picking all four pictures. Accuracy can only be counted if all four pictures are correct. I have a total of 100 sets of pictures to present without any repetition. I can use silde object to present 8 pictures, but have no idea how to collect all four choices for one trial, and how to present the correct choices after their choice. 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URL: From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 19:53:43 2007 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:53:43 -0500 Subject: multiple choises and feedback In-Reply-To: <54ff1cf0711261001v57493464leae99f69d994cafb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: this can easily be done in eprime. here's a first step: in the user tab of your Script window paste the following: Dim theState as SlideState Dim ptMouse as Point Dim strHit as String in your procedure you will need 4 items: a Label object - "Label1" then your Slide object - "Slide1" then an Inline object to analyze responses - "InLine1" then a Feedback object - "Feedback1" on Slide1 you will present 8 images - "Image1", "Image2", ..., "Image8" also on Slide1 you will need a Text box for people to click when they've finished choosing their four images - "Text1" make Text1 read something like "Click here when finished." set your Slide1 duration to infinite, enable your mouse, and set Slide1 to terminate after any mouse response. in your InLine1 you'll use the built-in "StrHit" function. it will look like this... Set theState = Slide1.States("Default") Mouse.GetCursorPos ptMouse.x, ptMouse.y strHit = theState.HitTest(ptMouse.x, ptMouse.y) Select Case strHit Case "Image1" 'if Image1 is a correct choice, you'll need to keep track of this somehow. maybe Dim countCorrect as Integer in your User tab, then increment it every time a correct image is selected. Goto Label1 Case "Image2" 'find out if Image2 is a correct image, and increment the appropriate counter, or whatever is necessary. Goto Label1 ... Case "Image8" 'find out if Image8 is a correct image, and increment the appropriate counter, or whatever is necessary. Goto Label1 Case "Text1" 'check your counter to make sure the participant has clicked on at least 4 images (if that's how many you want them to select) 'If clickedCounter < 4 Then 'MsgBox("Please select 4 images before continuing.") 'Goto Label1 'End If Case Else Goto Label1 End Select this inline will prevent the script from proceeding to the Feedback object until all four images have been selected. it will keep looping back to Label1 until at least 4 images have been selected. then you just need to figure out how you plan to give the feedback. hope that helps. ben robinson On Nov 26, 2007 1:01 PM, Yan Yu wrote: > Dear E-primers, > > I need your expertise on my experiment. > I need to present 8 pictures on one screen to let the participants to > choose four from the eight, then present them with correct choices > once they finish picking all four pictures. Accuracy can only be > counted if all four pictures are correct. I have a total of 100 sets > of pictures to present without any repetition. > > I can use silde object to present 8 pictures, but have no idea how to > collect all four choices for one trial, and how to present the correct > choices after their choice. > > Any response is greatly appreciately > > Thanks a lot! > > Yan > The Graduate Center, City University of New York > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anais.kreitmann at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 20:26:21 2007 From: anais.kreitmann at gmail.com (AnaKrann) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:26:21 -0800 Subject: E-Prime Pausing? In-Reply-To: <47434f8c.2ee1220a.45ce.ffff89e7SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thanks so very much for your response. I will definitely try this and see if it works. Don't be surprised if you hear back from me with more questions. Thanks again very much for your advice. Take care, AnnKrann On Nov 20, 4:19 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > AnaKrann, > > >We were wondering if there was any possible way to PAUSE a task in > >the event of a crabby > >infant so as to not have to start the task all over after each mini-fits. > > You might try the GetUserBreakState() and SetUserBreakState methods, > look these up in the E-Basic online help file. Pressing Ctrl+Shift > any time during the experiment will set the user break state. You > then have to catch this with inline script at some appropriate place > in your experiment. Your inline script can then pause the experiment > until you perform some action, then return to the experiment. Make > sure to reset the user break state before your experiment continues! > > Here is a crude script example: > > If GetUserBreakState() Then > MsgBox "Take a break" ' Displays a message until the user clicks OK > SetUserBreakState 0 ' Make sure to reset this! > End If > > You might instead have your script jump to some other object in your > experiment, or do a List.Terminate, or run a TextDisplay object to > wait for a key press, etc., but I hope you get the idea. Let me know > if you need any more help. > > -- dkm > > --- > David McFarlane, Systems Designer > Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University > mcfar... at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 > Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Mon Nov 26 21:31:24 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:31:24 -0500 Subject: has anyone used eprime on an Intel mac? In-Reply-To: <2faba58d-5cbd-4a4e-9cc2-52bd34d62c10@s36g2000prg.googlegro ups.com> Message-ID: Ben, >in our lab we run some studies in matlab, and others in eprime. it >just occured to me that we might be able to run both using a single >computer, and cut down on clutter in the testing space, if we could >put eprime on a windows partition on our mac. >any thoughts? has anyone tried this? I have not tried this. But I do wonder if you plan to dual-boot between Mac OS and Windows, or run Windows in a virtual machine within the Mac OS. I would be very reluctant to trust millisecond timing within a virtual environment, but maybe that is not important for your experiment. Alternatively, doesn't Matlab also run under Windows? --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From cblais at berkeley.edu Mon Nov 26 21:48:43 2007 From: cblais at berkeley.edu (Chris Blais) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:48:43 -0800 Subject: has anyone used eprime on an Intel mac? In-Reply-To: <474b3b43.2ee1220a.45ce.fffff0e7SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Ben-- This is the setup we use at the UCSF neuroscience imaging center. I think it's using boot camp on a MacPro. I haven't run into any problems using it. Best, Chris -------------------- Chris Blais Ph.D. Post-Doctoral Researcher Helen Wills Neuroscience Institute University of California at Berkeley 132 Barker Hall MC 3190 Berkeley, CA, 94720 cblais at berkeley.edu phone: 510-643-6402 > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of David McFarlane > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 1:31 PM > To: e-prime at googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: has anyone used eprime on an Intel mac? > > > Ben, > > >in our lab we run some studies in matlab, and others in eprime. it > >just occured to me that we might be able to run both using a single > >computer, and cut down on clutter in the testing space, if we could > >put eprime on a windows partition on our mac. > >any thoughts? has anyone tried this? > > I have not tried this. But I do wonder if you plan to dual-boot > between Mac OS and Windows, or run Windows in a virtual machine > within the Mac OS. I would be very reluctant to trust millisecond > timing within a virtual environment, but maybe that is not important > for your experiment. > > Alternatively, doesn't Matlab also run under Windows? > > > > --- > David McFarlane, Systems Designer > Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University > mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 > Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 21:49:40 2007 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:49:40 -0500 Subject: has anyone used eprime on an Intel mac? In-Reply-To: <474b3b43.2ee1220a.45ce.fffff0e7SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: thanks, david. yes, matlab runs on pcs, but the lab we're currently cooperating with runs all their matlab scripts on macs, and always has, and we'd like to be consistent with their practices. i would definitely be using two drives or two drive partitions to attempt this, not running windows virtually. i can't wait to see if it works! ben On Nov 26, 2007 4:31 PM, David McFarlane wrote: > > Ben, > > >in our lab we run some studies in matlab, and others in eprime. it > >just occured to me that we might be able to run both using a single > >computer, and cut down on clutter in the testing space, if we could > >put eprime on a windows partition on our mac. > >any thoughts? has anyone tried this? > > I have not tried this. But I do wonder if you plan to dual-boot > between Mac OS and Windows, or run Windows in a virtual machine > within the Mac OS. I would be very reluctant to trust millisecond > timing within a virtual environment, but maybe that is not important > for your experiment. > > Alternatively, doesn't Matlab also run under Windows? > > > > --- > David McFarlane, Systems Designer > Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University > mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 > Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josephjaywilliams at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 05:52:55 2007 From: josephjaywilliams at gmail.com (Joseph Williams) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:52:55 -0800 Subject: has anyone used eprime on an Intel mac? In-Reply-To: <121d07f40711262150na17e96p6267c69d2404cc51@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Ben, > > Yes, I've done it several times and I'm currently running experiments with > it. It works fine using boot camp, although it will probably be a bit of a > pain to set it up. Boot camp beta isn't freely available anymore (unless you > have the new Leopard version of Mac OS), and be prepared for things like > your Mac keyboard suddenly not working in the middle of installation! One > point to note is that you might have to install some drivers on your > computer (which are available at PST's support site for E-prime) to get the > computer to recognize the HASP USB key. > > Joseph > > > On Nov 26, 2007 8:22 AM, ben wrote: > > > > > in our lab we run some studies in matlab, and others in eprime. it > > just occured to me that we might be able to run both using a single > > computer, and cut down on clutter in the testing space, if we could > > put eprime on a windows partition on our mac. > > any thoughts? has anyone tried this? > > > > ben > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From BrainLangRes at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 13:44:03 2007 From: BrainLangRes at gmail.com (lang) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 05:44:03 -0800 Subject: Auditory n back paradigm Message-ID: Hello all, Does anyone know how to change the n-back paradigm posted at the E- prime site to an auditory n back paradigm? Many thanks --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From depechemoder at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 22:12:19 2007 From: depechemoder at gmail.com (depechecircle) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:12:19 -0800 Subject: feedback after 10 trials Message-ID: Hello! I have 2 questions. 1. Is it possible for a subject to receive feedback only after 10 trials rather than after every trial? If so, how do I do this? 2. Is there a procedure in E-Prime that would make it so that the subject would only be able to proceed to the next list after he/she correctly did the experimental task 10 times in a row? Any help would be appreciated! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 01:01:58 2007 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:01:58 -0500 Subject: feedback after 10 trials In-Reply-To: <42128394-2c1b-4689-b6a9-76fcd62e1093@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: there are any number of ways to do both these things. 1. make a list with two rows. the first row should contain the procedure for your trial. set the weight to 10. the second row will contain the procedure for your feedback. set the weight to 1. this way it will run your trial 10 times before running the feedback procedure. within the trial proc keep track of correct responses using an inline after the stimulus that says 'If stimulus.ACC = 1 Then countcorrect = countcorrect + 1'. you'll need to have declared countcorrect as an Integer in your script window. 2. make one list with lots and lots of trials in it (set weight to... 200). put an inline after your stimulus: last10trials(9) = last10trials(8) last10trials(8) = last10trials(7) last10trials(7) = last10trials(6) last10trials(6) = last10trials(5) last10trials(5) = last10trials(4) last10trials(4) = last10trials(3) last10trials(3) = last10trials(2) last10trials(2) = last10trials(1) last10trials(1) = last10trials(0) last10trials(0) = stimuls.ACC Dim i as Integer Dim sumoflast10 as Integer For i = 0 to 9 sumoflast10 = sumoflast10 + last10trials(i) Next i If sumoflast10 = 10 Then End 'this will terminate the currently running list End If for this to work, of course, you'll need to have 'Dim last10trials(9) as Integer' in your user panel in your script window. good luck. ben On Nov 29, 2007 5:12 PM, depechecircle wrote: > > Hello! > > I have 2 questions. > > 1. Is it possible for a subject to receive feedback only after 10 > trials rather than after every trial? If so, how do I do this? > > 2. Is there a procedure in E-Prime that would make it so that the > subject would only be able to proceed to the next list after he/she > correctly did the experimental task 10 times in a row? > > Any help would be appreciated! > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mumtazfernandez at googlemail.com Fri Nov 30 17:36:38 2007 From: mumtazfernandez at googlemail.com (mumtazfernandez at googlemail.com) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:36:38 -0800 Subject: HELP! UPLOADING IMAGES Message-ID: I'm a third year student trying to start my dissertation but I have to get familiar with e-prime as soon as. At the moment im having problems as my experiment involves showing my participants pictures puzzles but i dont know how to upload my picture puzzles onto e-prime. I read somewhere that you have to convert the files from gif to bitmap but its still not allowing me to upload the pictures. It keeps telling me file not found.... HELP!!!! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mpberner at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 18:44:53 2007 From: mpberner at gmail.com (Michael Berner) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:44:53 +0100 Subject: HELP! UPLOADING IMAGES In-Reply-To: <02652767-ca42-4951-9bb8-9fb57caf9f1f@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Mumtaz, I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "uploading onto E-Prime", but as far as I know: - E-Prime indeed accepts only bitmap files - these bitmap files have to be in the same folder as the experiment (i.e., the .es or .ebs file(s)) in the course of which the pictures are to be shown - when referencing the files in E-Studio, be sure to spell out the full filename including the file extension .bmp (e.g., puzzle0152.bmp instead of putting only puzzle0152) That's really all I can say without more specific information about the problem you're experiencing. best of luck -- michael On Nov 30, 2007 6:36 PM, mumtazfernandez at googlemail.com wrote: > > I'm a third year student trying to start my dissertation but I have to > get familiar with e-prime as soon as. At the moment im having problems > as my experiment involves showing my participants pictures puzzles but > i dont know how to upload my picture puzzles onto e-prime. I read > somewhere that you have to convert the files from gif to bitmap but > its still not allowing me to upload the pictures. It keeps telling me > file not found.... HELP!!!! > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Nov 30 19:38:55 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:38:55 -0500 Subject: HELP! UPLOADING IMAGES In-Reply-To: Message-ID: To expand on Michael's advice, > - these bitmap files have to be in the same folder as the experiment >(i.e., the .es or .ebs file(s)) in the course of which the pictures >are to be shown You can actually put the image files and other stimulus files into other folders as long as you know how to provide the full path name in E-Prime. But that can be tricky, so best follow Michael's advice for now and keep everything in the same folder as the experiment files. -- David --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mumtazfernandez at googlemail.com Fri Nov 30 19:56:17 2007 From: mumtazfernandez at googlemail.com (Mumtaz Fernandez) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:56:17 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Sorry if my post confused you basically my experiment involves participants having to complete 100 picture puzzles. After the fixation point the picture puzzle will be shown to the participant and after a short time they will be asked if they know the answer. If they do then i'll record the answer and they'll move onto the next puzzle. If they do not they'll be asked if they would like a hint which will then be presented to them in words. Im going to try what you've said about the images having to be bitmap but do you think it would take me long to produce since i need to use 100 puzzles? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From astegner53706 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 30 20:40:48 2007 From: astegner53706 at yahoo.com (Aaron) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:40:48 -0800 Subject: Trackball Response Device Message-ID: Hello all. I'm writing for suggestions on how to incorporate a trackball response unit (Current Designs, Model #HH-TRK-1) into my E-Prime protocol. I am testing in an MR environment and so a standard trackball mouse will not work. I have written other scripts which successfully employed other Current Designs response units, in particular a 4-button press, by simply adding port and serial devices. The present protocol is an adjusted version of the VisualAnalogScale.es script published on the PST site (Canvas Proc). I thought by changing the port setting to have the device emulate a mouse that I would have an easy solution. Not so. The cursor does not respond to movement of the trackball, but E-Prime does register the button presses from the trackball unit. What am I missing? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Aaron --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Nov 2 17:39:32 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 13:39:32 -0400 Subject: Experiment hardcopies Message-ID: Has anybody found a way to print out hardcopy of experiment programs with E-Prime 2.0? E-Studio has never provided a printout function, but in versions 1.x I was able to make do by printing out scripts either from E-Run or from any text editor (since the .ebs files were just VisualBasic text files). But now E-Run does not reveal the script, and the .ebs2 files are encoded xml files so bringing them up in a text editor is useless. (Or am I just hopelessly old-fashioned for still wanting to see things on dead trees?) --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Nov 2 18:57:12 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:57:12 -0400 Subject: Experiment hardcopies In-Reply-To: <472b60d7.2ee1220a.7e65.5142SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Answering my own question... Turns out you can still copy script text from the Full tab of the Script view in E-Studio, then paste that into a text editor to make a printout (never explored that ability before). Clumsy, but it will have to do. (It's still highly disappointing that 2.0 does not allow for any editing of the full script, but that's a different topic.) At 11/2/2007 01:39 PM Friday, I wrote: >Has anybody found a way to print out hardcopy of experiment programs >with E-Prime 2.0? E-Studio has never provided a printout function, >but in versions 1.x I was able to make do by printing out scripts >either from E-Run or from any text editor (since the .ebs files were >just VisualBasic text files). But now E-Run does not reveal the >script, and the .ebs2 files are encoded xml files so bringing them up >in a text editor is useless. > >(Or am I just hopelessly old-fashioned for still wanting to see >things on dead trees?) > >--- >David McFarlane, Systems Designer >Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University >mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 >Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From finej at msu.edu Fri Nov 2 19:04:51 2007 From: finej at msu.edu (Jodene Fine) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:04:51 -0400 Subject: Experiment hardcopies In-Reply-To: <472b730b.35e3220a.594d.5ae0SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Dave, You are too kind. Seeing the script is not the same as working on the script, and I still see this as the major point. Even if you get the thing into an editor, you can't make any changes to it that would be implemented. PST needs to find a way to fix this. You're not old fashioned, by the way, and neither am I. Nothing wrong with wanting control of your code... Jodene -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David McFarlane Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 2:57 PM To: e-prime at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Experiment hardcopies Answering my own question... Turns out you can still copy script text from the Full tab of the Script view in E-Studio, then paste that into a text editor to make a printout (never explored that ability before). Clumsy, but it will have to do. (It's still highly disappointing that 2.0 does not allow for any editing of the full script, but that's a different topic.) At 11/2/2007 01:39 PM Friday, I wrote: >Has anybody found a way to print out hardcopy of experiment programs >with E-Prime 2.0? E-Studio has never provided a printout function, >but in versions 1.x I was able to make do by printing out scripts >either from E-Run or from any text editor (since the .ebs files were >just VisualBasic text files). But now E-Run does not reveal the >script, and the .ebs2 files are encoded xml files so bringing them up >in a text editor is useless. > >(Or am I just hopelessly old-fashioned for still wanting to see >things on dead trees?) > >--- >David McFarlane, Systems Designer >Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University >mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 >Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From c.wahlheim at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 00:26:25 2007 From: c.wahlheim at gmail.com (c.wahlheim (Jacoby Lab @ Wash U)) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:26:25 -0700 Subject: Random number generator Message-ID: Hi, I am fairly new to ePrime and brand new to this group. I am trying to program an experiment in which false feedback is given to incorrect responses on a recognition memory test. Specifically, I would like the false feedback "correct" to only be displayed 85% of the time that an incorrect response is produced (e.g., false alarm, miss). I was thinking that I could use a random number generator along with an "if" command to do this. Does anyone know how to write the inline code for a random number generator? Thanks, Chris --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From chunhuichen at 126.com Sun Nov 4 01:54:42 2007 From: chunhuichen at 126.com (chen) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 09:54:42 +0800 Subject: Random number generator In-Reply-To: <1194135985.991227.327670@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Syntax Random(min,max) Description Returns a Long value greater than or equal to min and less than or equal to max. Comments Both the min and max parameters are rounded to Long. A runtime error is generated if min is greater than max. Example 'This example uses the random number generator to generate ten 'lottery numbers. Const crlf = Chr$(13) + Chr$(10) Sub Main() Randomize 'Start with new random seed. For x = 1 To 10 y = Random(0,100) 'Generate numbers. message = message & y & crlf Next x MsgBox "Ten numbers for the lottery: " & crlf & message End Sub -- Chunhui Chen ______________ Beijing Normal University & University of California, Irvine ?2007-11-04?"c.wahlheim (Jacoby Lab @ Wash U)" ??? Hi, I am fairly new to ePrime and brand new to this group. I am trying to program an experiment in which false feedback is given to incorrect responses on a recognition memory test. Specifically, I would like the false feedback "correct" to only be displayed 85% of the time that an incorrect response is produced (e.g., false alarm, miss). I was thinking that I could use a random number generator along with an "if" command to do this. Does anyone know how to write the inline code for a random number generator? Thanks, Chris --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chunhuichen at 126.com Sun Nov 4 03:28:22 2007 From: chunhuichen at 126.com (chen) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:28:22 +0800 Subject: how to call other exe file in Eprime? Message-ID: Hi, I used to write Visual Basic scripts and now I want to use Eprime. But i don't know how to call executive function in Eprime. Here is want I wrote in VB (1) declare function Public Declare Function ShellExecute Lib "shell32.dll" Alias _ "ShellExecuteA" _ (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal lpOperation As String, _ ByVal lpFile As String, _ ByVal lpParameters As String, _ ByVal lpDirectory As String, _ ByVal nShowCmd As Long) As Long (2) call executive file ShellExecute(NULL,"open","calc.exe",NULL,NULL,SW_SHOWNORMAL); Now I want to call an executive file in Eprime, How to do that? Besides, I have a USB device which can not only send a response signal but also generate a special number. It can be used as serial port device in VB, i can not only get the response but also get the number, How can i use it in Eprime? How can I control a serial port in Eprime? Thank you very much! -- Chunhui Chen ______________ Beijing Normal University & University of California, Irvine --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From die.carrie at gmail.com Mon Nov 5 15:03:48 2007 From: die.carrie at gmail.com (c.frosch@reading.ac.uk) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 07:03:48 -0800 Subject: feedback object - correct answer one of many In-Reply-To: <1193684197.648182.282270@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Matt, I'm really sorry to be coming back at you with this. I've inserted the bits of script as you suggested (I think), but I now don't know how to tell the 'Stimulus' object what the correct response is, i.e. how does it now to get its input from the pieces of script I have added. Thank you ever so much for all of your help! Caren --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Mon Nov 5 19:20:06 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:20:06 -0500 Subject: how to call other exe file in Eprime? In-Reply-To: <26792707.436681194146902308.JavaMail.coremail@bj126app56.1 26.com> Message-ID: At 11/3/2007 11:28 PM Saturday, Chunhui Chen wrote: >Hi, I used to write Visual Basic scripts and now I want to use >Eprime. But i don't know how to call executive function in Eprime. > >Here is want I wrote in VB >(1) declare function >Public Declare Function ShellExecute Lib "shell32.dll" Alias _ >"ShellExecuteA" _ >(ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal lpOperation As String, _ >ByVal lpFile As String, _ >ByVal lpParameters As String, _ >ByVal lpDirectory As String, _ >ByVal nShowCmd As Long) As Long >(2) call executive file >ShellExecute(NULL,"open","calc.exe",NULL,NULL,SW_SHOWNORMAL); Have you just tried this in E-Prime? This looks very much like what I did several years ago to get direct access to the Windows API in order to use some extra keyboard functions (that was before I learned that I could do the same thing by testing for key offsets ). The whole "Public Declare ..." stuff works just like in VB, of course you have to put your .dll file in the right place, etc. But I don't know anything about ShellExecute, perhaps that is where you're getting stuck. Is there some compelling reason that you need to call external executables instead of just making your whole experiment work in "the E-Prime" way? --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From chunhuichen at 126.com Tue Nov 6 03:12:26 2007 From: chunhuichen at 126.com (chen) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:12:26 +0800 Subject: how to call other exe file in Eprime? In-Reply-To: <472f6ce9.3ff8220a.772c.fffffd3aSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thank you! I copyed the declare syntax to user script window (without "public" before "declare") and in an inline object used the ShellExecute function. But it seem Eprime just skiped this function. No error, but just ignore this function. The same script works well in VB. Why I have to use external function is I have a special device, it not only used as response switch, but also used as a signal generator, I used VB script not only detact a key press but also receive a signal from the device. VB script fulfill this by calling an executive function. Since eprime is very good at timing, I want to write script using Eprime, but also need to use my old device. So I hope I can call that executive function in Eprime. "ShellExecute" is a dll file I used to call that executive function in VB, If you can help me to find some way to call an executive function, i do not need to use ShellExecute. Or can you give me an Eprime example of use external function? Thank you very much! -- Chunhui Chen ______________ Beijing Normal University & University of California, Irvine ?2007-11-06?"David McFarlane" ??? At 11/3/2007 11:28 PM Saturday, Chunhui Chen wrote: >Hi, I used to write Visual Basic scripts and now I want to use >Eprime. But i don't know how to call executive function in Eprime. > >Here is want I wrote in VB >(1) declare function >Public Declare Function ShellExecute Lib "shell32.dll" Alias _ >"ShellExecuteA" _ >(ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal lpOperation As String, _ >ByVal lpFile As String, _ >ByVal lpParameters As String, _ >ByVal lpDirectory As String, _ >ByVal nShowCmd As Long) As Long >(2) call executive file >ShellExecute(NULL,"open","calc.exe",NULL,NULL,SW_SHOWNORMAL); Have you just tried this in E-Prime? This looks very much like what I did several years ago to get direct access to the Windows API in order to use some extra keyboard functions (that was before I learned that I could do the same thing by testing for key offsets ). The whole "Public Declare ..." stuff works just like in VB, of course you have to put your .dll file in the right place, etc. But I don't know anything about ShellExecute, perhaps that is where you're getting stuck. Is there some compelling reason that you need to call external executables instead of just making your whole experiment work in "the E-Prime" way? --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt.lenhart at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 14:11:14 2007 From: matt.lenhart at gmail.com (Matt Lenhart) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:11:14 -0000 Subject: how to call other exe file in Eprime? In-Reply-To: <29824861.842301194318746043.JavaMail.coremail@bj126app88.126.com> Message-ID: Hello, Please take a look at the new sample I added, ModalShellExecute.es. This method will work for some applications. The file suspends E- Prime, opens Notepad, and then resumes the experiment once Notepad is closed. You will simply need to replace Notepad with the application you desire. In general, many of our users have been able to use this sample to run various applications, but specific testing by PST for applications other than Notepad has not been performed. Keep in mind that additional programming may be required to allow the following sample to work with the external application you want to use. - Matt PST Technical Consultant http://pstnet.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Tue Nov 6 15:46:23 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:46:23 -0500 Subject: how to call other exe file in Eprime? In-Reply-To: <29824861.842301194318746043.JavaMail.coremail@bj126app88.1 26.com> Message-ID: Matt's response should help you to call an external .exe (thanks, Matt), however... At 11/5/2007 10:12 PM Monday, Chunhui Chen wrote: >I have a special device, it not only used as response switch, but >also used as a signal generator, I used VB script not only detact a >key press but also receive a signal from the device. VB script >fulfill this by calling an executive function. If you only need to read a digital signal from the device, why not just use E-Prime's built-in "ReadPort()" function? You had to use an external .exe in VB because VB does not provide any functions to read from or write to arbitrary I/O ports, but one of the virtues of E-Prime is that this ability is already built in with the added ReadPort() and WritePort methods. You might want to give that a try. --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From matt.lenhart at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 17:35:09 2007 From: matt.lenhart at gmail.com (Matt Lenhart) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:35:09 -0000 Subject: how to call other exe file in Eprime? In-Reply-To: <47308c54.3ff8220a.772c.ffffcedbSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: As for using a USB device, E-Prime does not directly support communications with the USB bus. However, E-Prime can call into DLL functions and can use the CreateObject API to attach to some COM objects. The best advice we can give you, if you choose to use the DLL- faciliated USB connection, is to refer to the Declare statement in E-Basic Help. Before attempting to do this, however, we stress that even if communication can be obtained, we worry about the accuracy of the timing for what you will receive. This would, however, at least allow you to communicate with the device without using an external application. If the device is recognized as a serial device in Windows, you can use E-Prime's built-in serial port communication functions. - Matt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From chunhuichen at 126.com Tue Nov 6 18:33:34 2007 From: chunhuichen at 126.com (chen) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 02:33:34 +0800 Subject: how to call other exe file in Eprime? In-Reply-To: <47308c54.3ff8220a.772c.ffffcedbSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Matt and David, Thank you! -- Chunhui Chen ______________ Beijing Normal University & University of California, Irvine ?2007-11-06?"David McFarlane" ??? Matt's response should help you to call an external .exe (thanks, Matt), however... At 11/5/2007 10:12 PM Monday, Chunhui Chen wrote: >I have a special device, it not only used as response switch, but >also used as a signal generator, I used VB script not only detact a >key press but also receive a signal from the device. VB script >fulfill this by calling an executive function. If you only need to read a digital signal from the device, why not just use E-Prime's built-in "ReadPort()" function? You had to use an external .exe in VB because VB does not provide any functions to read from or write to arbitrary I/O ports, but one of the virtues of E-Prime is that this ability is already built in with the added ReadPort() and WritePort methods. You might want to give that a try. --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Tue Nov 6 22:19:36 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:19:36 -0500 Subject: Caching stimuli Message-ID: I understand the importance of caching video and audio stimuli for critical timing (see, e.g., Chapter 3 of the E-Prime User's Guide). However, I have failed to find any actual examples of how to do stimulus caching in E-Prime. Does anyone have an example? Thanks. --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From nkonstantinou at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 10:37:57 2007 From: nkonstantinou at gmail.com (Nikos Konstantinou) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:37:57 +0000 Subject: Trigger Rapid2 TMS stimulator Message-ID: Hi all, I would appreciate it if anybody has any helpful suggestions: 1. I am connecting a TMS Magstim Rapid2 stimulator with a pc that is running Eprime. Every time I press "save" or "run" on the Eprime software the stimulator is triggered! It is doing that with any Eprime scirpt! I don't want it to do that but instead I want the stimulator to be triggered at an output percentage value defined in Eprime, and at the specific time defined in Eprime. 2. I need to determine Phosphenes thresholds expressed as percentages of the TMS machine output. I am quoting the procedure from a recent paper: * "Phosphene thresholds were determined using a modified binary search paradigm (MOBS) that determines the upper and lower limits for the thresholds, expressed as percentages of the TMS machine output. The point midway between these limits was tested and the limits adjusted according to the subject's response. On each trial either the upper or lower limit of the range was updated depending on whether a phosphene was detected on the previous trial. If a phosphene was detected, the TMS machine value became the new upper limit. If a phosphene was not detected the TMS value was set as the lower limit. The new midpoint was then used as the test level on the next trial (For details of adjustments in cases of successive "seen" or "not seen" reports see Tyrell & Owens). The threshold was determined as being reached when the direction of the steps made by the test value had changed five times, or when the difference between the lower and upper limits was no more than 2% of the stimulator output."* In the past we have done what I descipe above on oder TMS stimulators. I uploaded a file called "TMStriggerHL" in case anyone wants to take a look. Cheers, Nikos --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ruthvan.holst at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 10:08:31 2007 From: ruthvan.holst at gmail.com (Ruth) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:08:31 -0000 Subject: Help with GoNoGo task Message-ID: Hello! I am pretty new with using e-prime and I have got some difficulties with making a trial the way I want it to. I hope someone can help me with this problem. I have a random block design GoNoGo task, created with nested lists. My task will have 4 different conditions with affective go stimuli and neutral nogo stimuli. For 3 conditions the trials will be like, seeing/ reacting to stimuli, fixation cross and than, when the whole list is run, going to the next condition. Now comes my difficulty: In 1 specific condition, I want my subjects to answer questions after they have reacted to all the go and nogo stimuli in that condition. How can I do this? I tried to make different procedures for my normal conditions and my special condition, but what happens is that subjects will just see one stimuli and than will be prompted with one question, instead of first completing all my gonogo stimuli and than answering all my questions at once. Because of my randomization I do not know when this special condition is shown, and I really need my subjects to fill in the questionnaire after that specific condition and not just after all conditions have been run. I really hope that someone can help me with this problem! Thanks in advance!! Ruth --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Nov 9 15:05:09 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:05:09 -0500 Subject: PackageCalls in E-Prime 2.0 Message-ID: Does any one understand the situation with PackageCalls in E-Prime 2.0 standard vs. Professional? Over on the PST User Forum, PST staff (Brandon) wrote, "Most scenarios where directly editing the E-Basic script will be able to be accomplished in E-Prime 2.0 Professional using Package files." Does this mean that Standard cannot use PackageCalls at all? Or does it mean that Standard can *use* PackageCalls, but only Professional will include a Package file editor? The second scenario is the only one that makes sense, but we need to know so that we know what versions we need to buy and install. In particular, if we build an E-Prime program in Professional using Package files that we made with the Package file editor, will we still be able to run the resulting E-Run file using E-Run Standard, or will that run only with E-Run Professional? For that matter, is there any difference at all between E-Run standard and Professional, or are all the differences just in E-Studio standard vs. Professional? Thanks for your help. --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From matt.lenhart at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 15:36:19 2007 From: matt.lenhart at gmail.com (Matt Lenhart) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 15:36:19 -0000 Subject: Trigger Rapid2 TMS stimulator In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Nikos, In regards to the first issue, this may occur if you have a hardware key that attaches to your parallel port. When saving or running (which automatically saves by default), E-Prime will check for the hardware key, and this may result in signals being sent to the parallel port, which may inadvertently trigger your equipment. - Matt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From nkonstantinou at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 16:14:07 2007 From: nkonstantinou at gmail.com (Nikos Konstantinou) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:14:07 +0000 Subject: Trigger Rapid2 TMS stimulator In-Reply-To: <1194622579.667625.116420@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Matt, Excellent point! Attaching a hardware key does not trigger the stimulator when saving or running. Thanks a lot N On Nov 9, 2007 3:36 PM, Matt Lenhart wrote: > > Hi Nikos, > > In regards to the first issue, this may occur if you have a hardware > key that attaches to your parallel port. 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URL: From jenifan at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 15:37:15 2007 From: jenifan at gmail.com (Jeni) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:37:15 -0000 Subject: Help with response bar Message-ID: Hi everyone, I'm looking for a way to program in E-Basic a response scale that is vertically oriented and has a drag tab that can be dragged along the bar so the participant can give a "rating". Preferably, it would look like the volume controls in windows. Thanks for any feedback!!! :) -Jeni --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From puffpastryhangman at googlemail.com Mon Nov 12 16:25:33 2007 From: puffpastryhangman at googlemail.com (puffpastryhangman at googlemail.com) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:25:33 -0800 Subject: First time E Prime In-Reply-To: <1193324604.979120.228670@z9g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi, I'm currently trying to implement a similar experiment, I have already got E-prime playing my audio stimuli, but I don't know how to make it record responses to these (subjects will listen to mathematical equations being read and speak the answers), ideally I would like to set this up so that E-prime can also record a reaction time for the onset of the spoken answer. If anyone has any knowledge of implementing this kind of task I would greatly appreciate some help. Cheers, Richard On Oct 25, 3:03 pm, "matt.lenh... at gmail.com" wrote: > Hello, > > Peter's reply was very helpful. I thought I would add more formal > instructions for anyone interested: > > In any experiment in which you wish to present sound, the Sound Device > on the Experiment Object of your E-Prime experiment must be configured > for the same audio format as your sound files. Otherwise, a runtime > error will occur. > > Please check the audio formats of your wav files. You can do this by > opening the files in Windows Sound Recorder (in XP) and, under the > File menu, selecting Properties. You should choose a format that is > directly supported by E-Prime (8 bit or 16 bit; 11025 Hz, 22050Hz or > 44100Hz; stereo or mono), and all of your wav files that will be used > in this experiment should be saved in that format. Note that, > unfortunately, Windows Vista's Sound Recorder does not let you check/ > set these properties, so you would need to use a third party > application in this case. > > Then, open the Experiment Object (by double-clicking it in the > Structure window of your experiment), click on the Devices tab, and > select the Sound Device. If you click Edit, you will be able to see > the current configuration and make changes to match the audio format > of your wav file(s). Once the settings of your Sound Device and WAV > files match, please try to run your experiment again. > > Matt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From jeff.larsen at ttu.edu Mon Nov 12 17:18:36 2007 From: jeff.larsen at ttu.edu (Larsen, Jeff) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:18:36 -0600 Subject: Help with response bar In-Reply-To: <1194881835.451081.157350@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Jeni -- This might do the trick. It's from Eprime 1.0. -- Jeff ******************************************************* Jeff T. Larsen, PhD Department of Psychology Texas Tech University Phone: 806-742-3711 x234 Fax: 806-742-0818 Email: jeff.larsen at ttu.edu Webpage: http://webpages.acs.ttu.edu/jelarsen ******************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeni Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:37 AM To: E-Prime Subject: Help with response bar Hi everyone, I'm looking for a way to program in E-Basic a response scale that is vertically oriented and has a drag tab that can be dragged along the bar so the participant can give a "rating". Preferably, it would look like the volume controls in windows. Thanks for any feedback!!! :) -Jeni --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: VerticalVisualAnalog.es Type: application/octet-stream Size: 9755 bytes Desc: VerticalVisualAnalog.es URL: From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Mon Nov 12 19:10:58 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:10:58 -0500 Subject: First time E Prime In-Reply-To: <1194884733.984765.239180@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: >I have already got E-prime playing my audio stimuli, but I don't know how to >make it record responses to these What version of E-Prime are you using? Audio recording was just added in E-Prime 2.0 (the SoundIn object), it is not available in versions 1.x. Regards, -- David --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From E.Hartstra at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 11:15:42 2007 From: E.Hartstra at gmail.com (Egbert Hartstra) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:15:42 -0800 Subject: paired Stop Signal Task Message-ID: Dear E-Prime users, I am a relatively unexperienced programmer and I now have to program a stop signal paradigm in E-Prime. This is what I have so far: I have a list with all my stimuli, out of which a random selection will be made. Within this list, I have nested a signal list which contains 1s and 0s. Out of this signal list also, a random selection is made. The word, paired with the signal coding, will then enter an inline which specifies the trial type (Stop Trial or Go Trial). I also have the delay algorithm implemented (+50ms on a succesful trial, -50ms otherwise). My problem however is that a certain amount of the trials have to be presented twice (and only twice) and that these trials must also have a random signal code attached to them. My idea was to attach (throug another nested list) a repeat/no-repeat code to make sure that the word is presented twice whenever the repeat attribute reads 1 or something like that but I haven't been succesful so far. My question thus is: How do I make sure that I get a list of trials in which some (around 2/3)stimuli are repeated (after lag 1 or lag 5, should be equal amounts), all stimuli are selected randomly, and the experiment is made up out of 1/3, randomly assigned signal trials. To be clear: if a certain stimulus is repeated, it may, on the first occurance, have a signal coding and in the second occurance a no signal coding (or whatever kind of combination, this should be random). I hope this problem is solvable. In any case, thanks very much in advance. E. Hartstra. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From jenifan at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 19:37:55 2007 From: jenifan at gmail.com (Jeni) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:37:55 -0000 Subject: Help with response bar In-Reply-To: <56FAB47A25922149BB91D62B843E2E5B998908@CEBREN.net.ttu.edu> Message-ID: Thank you so much for responding. I will try this out. On Nov 12, 11:18 am, "Larsen, Jeff" wrote: > Hi Jeni -- > This might do the trick. It's from Eprime 1.0. > -- Jeff > > ******************************************************* > Jeff T. Larsen, PhD > Department of Psychology > Texas Tech University > Phone: 806-742-3711 x234 > Fax: 806-742-0818 > Email: jeff.lar... at ttu.edu > Webpage:http://webpages.acs.ttu.edu/jelarsen > ******************************************************* > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On > > Behalf Of Jeni > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:37 AM > To: E-Prime > Subject: Help with response bar > > Hi everyone, > > I'm looking for a way to program in E-Basic a response scale that is > vertically oriented and has a drag tab that can be dragged along the > bar so the participant can give a "rating". Preferably, it would look > like the volume controls in windows. > > Thanks for any feedback!!! :) > > -Jeni > > > > VerticalVisualAnalog.es > 12KDownload- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From giulia.bencini at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 20:42:49 2007 From: giulia.bencini at gmail.com (Giulia Bencini) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:42:49 -0500 Subject: some sound files chopped off before end and not others Message-ID: Hi, I am having problems with some sound files being chopped off at the end. Here's the context: On a slide trial a picture appears, along with an audio object (sentence describing the picture) - 2-3 seconds long) and a text box under the picture with the sentence in writing. Despite the fact that the sound buffer is set to one minute and a half and that the length specification is long enough for each sound file, some of the sentences are chopped off at the end. This occurs in 4/50 of our sentences. I am not sure if anyone can help with this. Thanks! Giulia Bencini Post-doctoral Rsearch Scientist Language Acquisition Research Center Hunter College 695 Park Avenue New York NY 10021 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From pquain at une.edu.au Tue Nov 13 23:18:38 2007 From: pquain at une.edu.au (Peter Quain) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:18:38 +1100 Subject: some sound files chopped off before end and not others In-Reply-To: Message-ID: same 4 each run? At 07:42 AM 14/11/2007, you wrote: >Hi, > >I am having problems with some sound files being chopped off at the >end. Here's the context: On a slide trial a picture appears, along >with an audio object (sentence describing the picture) - 2-3 seconds >long) and a text box under the picture with the sentence in writing. >Despite the fact that the sound buffer is set to one minute and a half >and that the length specification is long enough for each sound file, >some of the sentences are chopped off at the end. This occurs in 4/50 >of our sentences. I am not sure if anyone can help with this. > >Thanks! > > >Giulia Bencini >Post-doctoral Rsearch Scientist >Language Acquisition Research Center >Hunter College >695 Park Avenue >New York >NY 10021 > >> > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1126 - Release Date: >12/11/2007 12:56 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1128 - Release Date: 13/11/2007 11:09 AM --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From puffpastryhangman at googlemail.com Thu Nov 15 17:07:25 2007 From: puffpastryhangman at googlemail.com (puffpastryhangman at googlemail.com) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:07:25 -0800 Subject: First time E Prime In-Reply-To: <4738a553.35e3220a.594d.2808SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Ah, I'm still on E-prime 1.2x or something, thanks very much for the response. Do you know if this SoundIn object is present in E-prime 2.0 or just E-prime 2.0 professional? Cheers, Richard On Nov 12, 7:10 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > >I have already got E-prime playing my audio stimuli, but I don't know how to > >make it record responses to these > > What version of E-Prime are you using? Audio recording was just > added in E-Prime 2.0 (the SoundIn object), it is not available in versions 1.x. > > Regards, > -- David > > --- > David McFarlane, Systems Designer > Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University > mcfar... at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 > Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Thu Nov 15 17:57:50 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:57:50 -0500 Subject: some sound files chopped off before end and not others In-Reply-To: <20071113231842.VDCV1391.oaamta01sl.mx.bigpond.com@tardis.u ne.edu.au> Message-ID: At 11/13/2007 06:18 PM Tuesday, Peter Quain wrote: >same 4 each run? Yes, Giulia confirmed that it was the same four sound files each time. More importantly, the durations of those four files were longer than the duration of the Slide object, which was the source of the problem. Case solved. -- dkm --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 >At 07:42 AM 14/11/2007, Giulia Bencini wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I am having problems with some sound files being chopped off at the > >end. Here's the context: On a slide trial a picture appears, along > >with an audio object (sentence describing the picture) - 2-3 seconds > >long) and a text box under the picture with the sentence in writing. > >Despite the fact that the sound buffer is set to one minute and a half > >and that the length specification is long enough for each sound file, > >some of the sentences are chopped off at the end. This occurs in 4/50 > >of our sentences. I am not sure if anyone can help with this. > > > >Thanks! > > > > > >Giulia Bencini > >Post-doctoral Rsearch Scientist > >Language Acquisition Research Center > >Hunter College > >695 Park Avenue > >New York > >NY 10021 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Thu Nov 15 20:38:49 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:38:49 -0500 Subject: First time E Prime In-Reply-To: <7999f12a-692d-4c1a-bd2a-88978cddd759@p69g2000hsa.googlegro ups.com> Message-ID: Richard, >Ah, I'm still on E-prime 1.2x or something, thanks very much for the >response. Do you know if this SoundIn object is present in E-prime 2.0 >or just E-prime 2.0 professional? PST web page says that SoundIn is available with both Pro and non-Pro flavors of 2.0, see here: www.pstnet.com/products/e%2Dprime/. In case you are thinking of upgrading, you should know that the two flavors are not compatible -- non-Pro will not use programs made in Pro, and Pro might use non-Pro versions but only through some tortuous editing procedures (I will post a separate message about this to the list soon). PST will not tell you this, at least they did not tell us, we found out the hard way. When I spoke again to PST staff today, I learned that the non-Pro version is not a serious offering, it is only meant for those who really have absolutely no more money to spend, otherwise you are supposed to buy Professional. This could create havoc if you ever collaborate with others who do not use the same flavor of 2.0 as you. Fair warning. >On Nov 12, 7:10 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > > >I have already got E-prime playing my audio stimuli, but I don't > know how to > > >make it record responses to these > > > > What version of E-Prime are you using? Audio recording was just > > added in E-Prime 2.0 (the SoundIn object), it is not available in > versions 1.x. -- David --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Nov 16 15:02:30 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:02:30 -0500 Subject: E-Prime 2.0 price list Message-ID: Perhaps it's just me, but I had a devil of a time untangling the E-Prime 2.0 prices from the table at the PST web site (www.pstnet.com/products/e%2Dprime/#Pricing). So I spoke to PST staff, puzzled further over their web page, and rearranged the data in a form that made more sense to me. Here is what I came up with, in case it is of use to anyone else. (Tip: This may look better with a fixed-width font.) Full price: Up to 31 Dec 2007 non-Professional $695 Professional $795 After 31 Dec 2007 non-Professional $895 Professional $995 E-Prime 1.x purchases made before 1 Dec 2004 are "non-eligible", which is PST-ese for qualifying for some upgrade pricing but not the best, not to be confused with "full price": Up to 31 Dec 2007 non-Professional $395 Professional $495 After 31 Dec 2007 non-Professional $495 (still less than full price) Professional $595 (still less than full price) E-Prime 1.x purchases made between 1 Dec 2004 and 1 Oct 2007 are "eligible", which is PST-ese for qualifying for the best upgrade pricing: Up to 31 Dec 2007 Professional $295 After 31 Dec 2007 Professional $395 Up to 1 Apr 2008 non-Professional "Free" (see extended note below) After 1 Apr 2008 non-Professional $495 (i.e., same as "non-eligible", see above) Professional $595 (i.e., same as "non-eligible", see above) The "free" upgrade to non-Pro needs some explanation. You have two choices: (1) Pay shipping to send your 1.x hardware key back to PST, they will exchange it for a special key that allows you to run either 1.x or 2.0 non-Pro on one computer; (2) Pay $30 to have PST send you a new key to run 2.0 non-Pro -- you keep your old 1.x key, allowing you to run both 1.x and 2.0 non-Pro on one or two computers. That's it. Well, there are also quantity discounts for new (not upgrade) purchases, but this is complicated enough. I think most people who upgrade from 1.x to 2.0 non-Pro would pay the $30 for the extra key. But that is academic if most upgraders instead move right up to Professional. The "free" upgrade to non-Pro does make it seem that non-Pro is the expected upgrade path from 1.x. However, there are significant incompatibilies between programs made with Pro & non-Pro (I am still exploring the details on this for a later post), so you must buy the right version at the outset. Acording to PST staff I spoke with, the non-Pro version is only meant for those who really are down to their last dollar, otherwise everyone is just supposed to purchase Pro. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From taylor.newton at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 17:25:48 2007 From: taylor.newton at gmail.com (Taylor Newton) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:25:48 -0800 Subject: gone, baby, gone Message-ID: Hi, I just posted another question about port initialization, but this is a separate issue. I worked hours on a fairly complicated script yesterday saving it as I went along and running parts of it as they were completed. It crashed quite a bit as I worked, but when I finished everything seemed fine. I saved it on my desktop and on our department's server, but when I went back to it later, it was GONE in both places! The file name was still there in both places, but there was nothing behind it (0 bytes). Further, the E-run script was still there and I can still run the experiment from that. My questions are 1) what happened? and 2) is there a way to backwrite erun to estudio? I'm not that familiar with the syntax and need to make some detailed changes to the program. Any and all help is much appreciated! Taylor --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From taylor.newton at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 17:20:47 2007 From: taylor.newton at gmail.com (Taylor Newton) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:20:47 -0800 Subject: parallel port won't initialize to 0 Message-ID: Hi, I'm using a BioPac system with Eprime triggering events through the parallel port to digital channels D8-D15. Everything works great, but channel D15 is always on (equals 1). The same is true for digital channels D0-D7. I can't get 8 channels at one time to initialize to 0 so that I can get correct trigger numbers. Any ideas? Is this an eprime problem? This is the script I am using to initilize the port: WritePort &H378, 0 Dim StartTime1 as Single Dim TimerDuration1 as Single TimerDuration1 = .005 StartTime1 = Timer do WritePort &H0378, 99 Loop Until Timer > StartTime1 + TimerDuration1 WritePort &H0378,0 And then to send the triggers: WritePort &H378, 0 WritePort &H378, c.getattrib("Trigger") Any help is much appreciated! Taylor --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Nov 16 19:01:44 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:01:44 -0500 Subject: gone, baby, gone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Taylor, To answer only your second question... >2) is there a way to backwrite erun to estudio? No, there is no way to create an E-Studio (.es) file from an E-Run (.ebs) file. In case you wrote extensive inline script and still use version 1.x, you can at least copy & paste that script from your .ebs file into new inline objects in a fresh .es file -- tedious, but it's something. For that matter, if you can read the E-Basic code then you can uncover the complete structure of your experiment and the properties of all your objects, so you would have something to build on. Just so you know, even this will no longer be possible in version 2.0, as in 2.0 the .ebs files are no longer plain script text but are bin.base46 encoded xml. Regards, -- David --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Nov 16 20:38:25 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:38:25 -0500 Subject: E-Prime 2.0 Pro vs. non-Pro incompatibilities Message-ID: Jodene talked with Matt at PST and came away with the following: "1. Standard e-run will not run a script file compiled with eprime pro. "2. Pro will run a standard experiment only after it is converted to pro, which you do by opening a new experiment, selecting to make the new experiment 'standard' and then cutting/pasting the pro experiment into the standard experiment." I am afraid that this information set me on the wrong track in some posts elsewhere (I should know better than to trust PST to get their facts straight :)). I finally ran my own tests using one machine with Professional and another with non-Pro, and got much better results: - An .ebs2 (E-Run) file generated by non-Pro will run in E-Run Pro. - An .ebs2 file file generated by Pro will run in E-Run non-Pro, at least if it does not use any Pro features (I did not test any Pro features). - An .es2 (E-Studio) file made in non-Pro will open in E-Studio Pro. - An .es2 file made in Pro will *not* (repeat, *not*) open in E-Studio Pro. - Finally (pay attention here), an .es2 file made in non-Pro will open in E-Studio Pro, and if you change that file in Pro and save it, the resulting .es2 file will *still* open back in non-Pro (hooray!), at least if it does not use any Pro features (I did not test any Pro features). So the only problem comes with sharing .es2 files written in Pro with others who do not have Pro, even if those experiments do not use any Pro features. Everything else works as I would expect. I then confirmed the above with Matt (thanks). As Matt explained, 2.0 is still in rapid development (i.e., 2.0 is not stable), this behavior already differs from its behavior a week or so ago, and this behavior may change again at any moment. I hope this clarifies the situation somewhat and helps folks make upgrade and purchasing decisions. If you want some extra technical details, read on, otherwise stop here... In versions 1.x all the files were plain text files, and could be opened in any text editor for viewing, printing, and even editing. In 2.0, the .ebs2 files for both Pro and non-Pro are still text files in a sense, but it is all xml text. In particular, the generated .ebs2 script is no longer readable text but is bin.base64 encoded, presumably already compiled into executable form. Also, when I generated the same experiment in both Pro and non-Pro, I found that the xml headers were identical (except for the file date & time), and the bin.base64 data started out identical, but then soon diverged. I do not have the skills to explore that any further. The non-Pro .es2 files are also xml, although everything else is pretty much the same thing as in the 1.x .es files. However, .es2 files that are *originated* in Pro are completely binary without a shred of text (even the text of my Text objects does not appear as text in the .es2 Pro file). But .es2 files that originate in non-Pro, get opened in Pro, then saved again, preserve the xml structure of the original non-Pro .es2 (at least, as long as no Pro features are added). Once again, I stress this is all subject to change during the rapid development of 2.0. -- David --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From beamgau at gmx.de Sat Nov 17 10:37:09 2007 From: beamgau at gmx.de (beamgau) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:37:09 -0800 Subject: Experiments on Palm-Handheld-Computers Message-ID: Dear E-prime-group, at my new workplace, they are using palm-handheld-devices for basic diagnostics with several questionaires. Has anyone of you any experience with programming little experiments on palm-handhelds? at the moment, i would like to have something like the d2-attention- test... are there any web-ressources or tutorials? Thank you Felix --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From zajdeld at ohsu.edu Mon Nov 19 16:48:03 2007 From: zajdeld at ohsu.edu (Daniel Zajdel) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:48:03 -0800 Subject: Experiments on Palm-Handheld-Computers Message-ID: This is an important emerging area of potential. My group would essentially like to run eprime on Windows Mobile. We have a 24 hour ambulatory EEG device and are aiming to do cognitive testing complete with bluetooth synchronization to the EEG and it would be great to give versions of the same tasks we do in the lab. For the time being the solution is programming your own experiments in C or something. >>> beamgau at gmx.de 11/17/07 2:37 AM >>> Dear E-prime-group, at my new workplace, they are using palm-handheld-devices for basic diagnostics with several questionaires. Has anyone of you any experience with programming little experiments on palm-handhelds? at the moment, i would like to have something like the d2-attention- test... are there any web-ressources or tutorials? Thank you Felix --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From alex.marchant at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 17:47:34 2007 From: alex.marchant at gmail.com (alex.marchant at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:47:34 -0800 Subject: Incremental adjustments to participant's response Message-ID: Dear E-prime group, I believe a question like this was answered back before the group went onto google (I dimly remember something to do with adjusting the length of a line), but I've lost a lot of my past messages and so can't dig it out. I want to get participants to either... click on a circle and 'drag it' bigger or smaller, and then record the final 'resting' size of the circle or... make the circle incrementally bigger or smaller (preferably a pixel at a time) by pressing a button, and then logging the final size. At the moment I'm using E-prime to draw my stimuli. So something like... cnvs.Circle 640, 512, c.GetAttrib("TargetSize") Where the '640' and '512' are coordinates and the 'c.GetAttrib("TargetSize")' is the radius of the circle. Any help would be greatly appreciated on either or both (if you have the time!) questions. many thanks Alex Marchant MSc Goldsmiths, University of London --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From chunhuichen at 126.com Mon Nov 19 19:06:13 2007 From: chunhuichen at 126.com (chen) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 03:06:13 +0800 Subject: Incremental adjustments to participant's response In-Reply-To: <9ad16679-eaf4-4a0a-b370-f69ee3d89868@l22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi, I don't konow how to draw circles, but i had wrote a program to change the fontsize automaticlly, maybe similar to your second question. "make the circle incrementally bigger or smaller (preferably a pixel at a time) by pressing a button, and then logging the final size." below are codes showing what I had done in my program, I just type in, not debuged yet, just showing the main idea. dim again as long dim radius as long again=1 radius=10 while again cnvs.Circle 640, 512, radius ' in my original program, it's a textdisplay object ' presenting a word, if there is a response, the object ' will disappear, Which object can draw circle? if object.response="a" then again=0 ' press "a" then finish elseif object.response="b" then radius=radius+1 ' press "b" darw larger circle else radius=radius-1 ' press other key draw small circle endif wend -- Chunhui Chen ______________ Beijing Normal University & University of California, Irvine ?2007-11-20?"alex.marchant at gmail.com" ??? Dear E-prime group, I believe a question like this was answered back before the group went onto google (I dimly remember something to do with adjusting the length of a line), but I've lost a lot of my past messages and so can't dig it out. I want to get participants to either... click on a circle and 'drag it' bigger or smaller, and then record the final 'resting' size of the circle or... make the circle incrementally bigger or smaller (preferably a pixel at a time) by pressing a button, and then logging the final size. At the moment I'm using E-prime to draw my stimuli. So something like... cnvs.Circle 640, 512, c.GetAttrib("TargetSize") Where the '640' and '512' are coordinates and the 'c.GetAttrib("TargetSize")' is the radius of the circle. Any help would be greatly appreciated on either or both (if you have the time!) questions. many thanks Alex Marchant MSc Goldsmiths, University of London --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alex.marchant at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 09:26:34 2007 From: alex.marchant at gmail.com (Alex Marchant) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:26:34 +0000 Subject: Incremental adjustments to participant's response In-Reply-To: <24925561.652801195499173007.JavaMail.coremail@bj126app78.126.com> Message-ID: thanks Chunhui for your speedy reply. I'll give it a go. Alex On Nov 19, 2007 7:06 PM, chen wrote: > > Hi, I don't konow how to draw circles, but i had wrote a program to change > the fontsize automaticlly, maybe similar to your second question. > > "make the circle incrementally bigger or smaller (preferably a pixel > at a time) by pressing a button, and then logging the final size." > > below are codes showing what I had done in my program, I just type in, not > debuged yet, just showing the main idea. > dim again as long > dim radius as long > > again=1 > radius=10 > > while again > cnvs.Circle 640, 512, radius ' in my original program, it's a > textdisplay object > ' presenting a word, if there is a > response, the object > ' will disappear, Which object can draw > circle? > if object.response="a" then > again=0 ' press "a" then finish > elseif object.response="b" then > radius=radius+1 ' press "b" darw larger circle > else > radius=radius-1 ' press other key draw small circle > endif > wend > > > > -- > Chunhui Chen > ______________ > > Beijing Normal University > & > University of California, Irvine > > ?2007-11-20?"alex.marchant at gmail.com" ??? > > Dear E-prime group, > > I believe a question like this was answered back before the group went > onto google (I dimly remember something to do with adjusting the > length of a line), but I've lost a lot of my past messages and so > can't dig it out. > > I want to get participants to either... > > click on a circle and 'drag it' bigger or smaller, and then record the > final 'resting' size of the circle > > or... > > make the circle incrementally bigger or smaller (preferably a pixel > at a time) by pressing a button, and then logging the final size. > > At the moment I'm using E-prime to draw my stimuli. So something > like... > cnvs.Circle 640, 512, c.GetAttrib("TargetSize") > > Where the '640' and '512' are coordinates and the > 'c.GetAttrib("TargetSize")' is the radius of the circle. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated on either or both (if you have > the time!) questions. > > many thanks > > Alex Marchant MSc > Goldsmiths, University of London > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anais.kreitmann at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 19:38:43 2007 From: anais.kreitmann at gmail.com (AnaKrann) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:38:43 -0800 Subject: E-Prime Pausing? Message-ID: Hi, I work for UMDNJ and are currently trying to use our E-prime version 1 on babies. Unfortunately, some of these oftentimes come in after having been woken from their peaceful slumber and prove to be quite irritated when they are finally awake for the task. We were wondering if there was any possible way to PAUSE a task in the event of a crabby infant so as to not have to start the task all over after each mini- fits. Any suggestions? Is it even possible? I appreciate any and all help and thank you all in advance. Take care, AnaKrann --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Tue Nov 20 21:03:44 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:03:44 -0500 Subject: E-Prime 2.0 price list In-Reply-To: <473db11b.1c99220a.0a13.1984SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: My apologies for this repost, but as I said originally I found the E-Prime 2.0 price list on the PST web site horribly confusing. As it turns out I transposed two of the prices under Full Price, and this made it look like Professional full price is only $100 more than non-Pro, whereas it is actually $200 more. Here is the entire (and I hope this time fully correct) price list again, in all its detail. (Tip: The following table may look better with a fixed-width font.) Full price: Up to 31 Dec 2007 non-Professional $695 Professional $895 After 31 Dec 2007 non-Professional $795 Professional $995 E-Prime 1.x purchases made before 1 Dec 2004 are "non-eligible", which is PST-speak for qualifying for some upgrade pricing but not the best, not to be confused with "full price": Up to 31 Dec 2007 non-Professional $395 Professional $495 After 31 Dec 2007 non-Professional $495 (still less than full price) Professional $595 (still less than full price) E-Prime 1.x purchases made between 1 Dec 2004 and 1 Oct 2007 are "eligible", which is PST-speak for qualifying for the best upgrade pricing (Gary Schrock at MSU informs me that "eligible" should be taken to mean "eligible for a 'free' upgrade"): Up to 31 Dec 2007 Professional $295 After 31 Dec 2007 Professional $395 Up to 1 Apr 2008 non-Professional "Free" (see extended note below) After 1 Apr 2008 non-Professional $495 (i.e., same as "non-eligible", see above) Professional $595 (i.e., same as "non-eligible", see above) The "free" upgrade to non-Pro needs some explanation. You have two choices: (1) Pay shipping to send your 1.x hardware key back to PST, they will exchange it for a special key that allows you to run either 1.x or 2.0 non-Pro on one computer; (2) Pay $30 to have PST send you a new key to run 2.0 non-Pro -- you keep your old 1.x key, allowing you to run both 1.x and 2.0 non-Pro on one or two computers. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Tue Nov 20 21:19:52 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:19:52 -0500 Subject: E-Prime Pausing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: AnaKrann, >We were wondering if there was any possible way to PAUSE a task in >the event of a crabby >infant so as to not have to start the task all over after each mini-fits. You might try the GetUserBreakState() and SetUserBreakState methods, look these up in the E-Basic online help file. Pressing Ctrl+Shift any time during the experiment will set the user break state. You then have to catch this with inline script at some appropriate place in your experiment. Your inline script can then pause the experiment until you perform some action, then return to the experiment. Make sure to reset the user break state before your experiment continues! Here is a crude script example: If GetUserBreakState() Then MsgBox "Take a break" ' Displays a message until the user clicks OK SetUserBreakState 0 ' Make sure to reset this! End If You might instead have your script jump to some other object in your experiment, or do a List.Terminate, or run a TextDisplay object to wait for a key press, etc., but I hope you get the idea. Let me know if you need any more help. -- dkm --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Wed Nov 21 14:50:04 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David K McFarlane) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:50:04 -0500 Subject: E-Prime 2.0 Pro vs. non-Pro incompatibilities In-Reply-To: <473dffd2.35e3220a.0149.4065SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On Friday 16 Nov 2008 I wrote: > - An .ebs2 (E-Run) file generated by non-Pro will run in E-Run Pro. > - An .ebs2 file file generated by Pro will run in E-Run non-Pro, at > least if it does not use any Pro features (I did not test any Pro features). > - An .es2 (E-Studio) file made in non-Pro will open in E-Studio Pro. > - An .es2 file made in Pro will *not* (repeat, *not*) open in E-Studio Pro. > - Finally (pay attention here), an .es2 file made in non-Pro will > open in E-Studio Pro, and if you change that file in Pro and save it, > the resulting .es2 file will *still* open back in non-Pro (hooray!), > at least if it does not use any Pro features (I did not test any Pro features). And Anthony McGuffie at Coventry University found that I mis-typed the fourth point. I left off the "non-" from in front the second "Pro", which does not make sense. The fourth point should read, - An .es2 file made in Pro will *not* (repeat, *not*) open in E-Studio non-Pro. My apologies, -- David McFarlane --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From yerangs at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 23:14:10 2007 From: yerangs at gmail.com (maggie) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:14:10 -0800 Subject: can not read the font in the script window. Message-ID: Somehow, the font in the script window as well as all the inline objects has gone smaller and thicker all of sudden. Do anyone have ideas why and how I can revert it back? With many thanks --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From yanhyu at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 20:04:56 2007 From: yanhyu at gmail.com (Yan Yu) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:04:56 -0500 Subject: feedback object - correct answer one of many In-Reply-To: <1194275028.120589.259510@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Dear E-primers, I need your expertise on my experiment. I need to present 8 pictures on one screen to let the participants to choose four from the eight, then present them with correct choices once they finish picking the all four pictures. Accuracy can only be counted if all four pictures are correct. I have a total of 100 sets of pictures to present without any repetition. Could any of you give me some idea how to handle it? Thanks a lot! Yan from New York --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 16:22:40 2007 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:22:40 -0800 Subject: has anyone used eprime on an Intel mac? Message-ID: in our lab we run some studies in matlab, and others in eprime. it just occured to me that we might be able to run both using a single computer, and cut down on clutter in the testing space, if we could put eprime on a windows partition on our mac. any thoughts? has anyone tried this? ben --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From yanhyu at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 18:01:26 2007 From: yanhyu at gmail.com (Yan Yu) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:01:26 -0500 Subject: multiple choises and feedback Message-ID: Dear E-primers, I need your expertise on my experiment. I need to present 8 pictures on one screen to let the participants to choose four from the eight, then present them with correct choices once they finish picking all four pictures. Accuracy can only be counted if all four pictures are correct. I have a total of 100 sets of pictures to present without any repetition. I can use silde object to present 8 pictures, but have no idea how to collect all four choices for one trial, and how to present the correct choices after their choice. Any response is greatly appreciately Thanks a lot! Yan The Graduate Center, City University of New York --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yanhyu at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 18:42:59 2007 From: yanhyu at gmail.com (Yan Yu) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:42:59 -0500 Subject: multiple choises and feedback In-Reply-To: <13647788.6381196102372908.JavaMail.coremail@bj126app55.126.com> Message-ID: Thanks very much! Yan On 11/26/07, chen wrote: > > > Maybe you should try other programming software such as matlab or Visual > Basic > > > > -- > Chunhui Chen > ______________ > > Beijing Normal University > & > University of California, Irvine > > ?2007-11-27?"Yan Yu" ??? > > Dear E-primers, > > I need your expertise on my experiment. > I need to present 8 pictures on one screen to let the participants to > choose four from the eight, then present them with correct choices > once they finish picking all four pictures. Accuracy can only be > counted if all four pictures are correct. I have a total of 100 sets > of pictures to present without any repetition. > > I can use silde object to present 8 pictures, but have no idea how to > collect all four choices for one trial, and how to present the correct > choices after their choice. > > Any response is greatly appreciately > > Thanks a lot! > > Yan > The Graduate Center, City University of New York > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 19:53:43 2007 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:53:43 -0500 Subject: multiple choises and feedback In-Reply-To: <54ff1cf0711261001v57493464leae99f69d994cafb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: this can easily be done in eprime. here's a first step: in the user tab of your Script window paste the following: Dim theState as SlideState Dim ptMouse as Point Dim strHit as String in your procedure you will need 4 items: a Label object - "Label1" then your Slide object - "Slide1" then an Inline object to analyze responses - "InLine1" then a Feedback object - "Feedback1" on Slide1 you will present 8 images - "Image1", "Image2", ..., "Image8" also on Slide1 you will need a Text box for people to click when they've finished choosing their four images - "Text1" make Text1 read something like "Click here when finished." set your Slide1 duration to infinite, enable your mouse, and set Slide1 to terminate after any mouse response. in your InLine1 you'll use the built-in "StrHit" function. it will look like this... Set theState = Slide1.States("Default") Mouse.GetCursorPos ptMouse.x, ptMouse.y strHit = theState.HitTest(ptMouse.x, ptMouse.y) Select Case strHit Case "Image1" 'if Image1 is a correct choice, you'll need to keep track of this somehow. maybe Dim countCorrect as Integer in your User tab, then increment it every time a correct image is selected. Goto Label1 Case "Image2" 'find out if Image2 is a correct image, and increment the appropriate counter, or whatever is necessary. Goto Label1 ... Case "Image8" 'find out if Image8 is a correct image, and increment the appropriate counter, or whatever is necessary. Goto Label1 Case "Text1" 'check your counter to make sure the participant has clicked on at least 4 images (if that's how many you want them to select) 'If clickedCounter < 4 Then 'MsgBox("Please select 4 images before continuing.") 'Goto Label1 'End If Case Else Goto Label1 End Select this inline will prevent the script from proceeding to the Feedback object until all four images have been selected. it will keep looping back to Label1 until at least 4 images have been selected. then you just need to figure out how you plan to give the feedback. hope that helps. ben robinson On Nov 26, 2007 1:01 PM, Yan Yu wrote: > Dear E-primers, > > I need your expertise on my experiment. > I need to present 8 pictures on one screen to let the participants to > choose four from the eight, then present them with correct choices > once they finish picking all four pictures. Accuracy can only be > counted if all four pictures are correct. I have a total of 100 sets > of pictures to present without any repetition. > > I can use silde object to present 8 pictures, but have no idea how to > collect all four choices for one trial, and how to present the correct > choices after their choice. > > Any response is greatly appreciately > > Thanks a lot! > > Yan > The Graduate Center, City University of New York > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anais.kreitmann at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 20:26:21 2007 From: anais.kreitmann at gmail.com (AnaKrann) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:26:21 -0800 Subject: E-Prime Pausing? In-Reply-To: <47434f8c.2ee1220a.45ce.ffff89e7SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thanks so very much for your response. I will definitely try this and see if it works. Don't be surprised if you hear back from me with more questions. Thanks again very much for your advice. Take care, AnnKrann On Nov 20, 4:19 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > AnaKrann, > > >We were wondering if there was any possible way to PAUSE a task in > >the event of a crabby > >infant so as to not have to start the task all over after each mini-fits. > > You might try the GetUserBreakState() and SetUserBreakState methods, > look these up in the E-Basic online help file. Pressing Ctrl+Shift > any time during the experiment will set the user break state. You > then have to catch this with inline script at some appropriate place > in your experiment. Your inline script can then pause the experiment > until you perform some action, then return to the experiment. Make > sure to reset the user break state before your experiment continues! > > Here is a crude script example: > > If GetUserBreakState() Then > MsgBox "Take a break" ' Displays a message until the user clicks OK > SetUserBreakState 0 ' Make sure to reset this! > End If > > You might instead have your script jump to some other object in your > experiment, or do a List.Terminate, or run a TextDisplay object to > wait for a key press, etc., but I hope you get the idea. Let me know > if you need any more help. > > -- dkm > > --- > David McFarlane, Systems Designer > Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University > mcfar... at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 > Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Mon Nov 26 21:31:24 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:31:24 -0500 Subject: has anyone used eprime on an Intel mac? In-Reply-To: <2faba58d-5cbd-4a4e-9cc2-52bd34d62c10@s36g2000prg.googlegro ups.com> Message-ID: Ben, >in our lab we run some studies in matlab, and others in eprime. it >just occured to me that we might be able to run both using a single >computer, and cut down on clutter in the testing space, if we could >put eprime on a windows partition on our mac. >any thoughts? has anyone tried this? I have not tried this. But I do wonder if you plan to dual-boot between Mac OS and Windows, or run Windows in a virtual machine within the Mac OS. I would be very reluctant to trust millisecond timing within a virtual environment, but maybe that is not important for your experiment. Alternatively, doesn't Matlab also run under Windows? --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From cblais at berkeley.edu Mon Nov 26 21:48:43 2007 From: cblais at berkeley.edu (Chris Blais) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:48:43 -0800 Subject: has anyone used eprime on an Intel mac? In-Reply-To: <474b3b43.2ee1220a.45ce.fffff0e7SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Ben-- This is the setup we use at the UCSF neuroscience imaging center. I think it's using boot camp on a MacPro. I haven't run into any problems using it. Best, Chris -------------------- Chris Blais Ph.D. Post-Doctoral Researcher Helen Wills Neuroscience Institute University of California at Berkeley 132 Barker Hall MC 3190 Berkeley, CA, 94720 cblais at berkeley.edu phone: 510-643-6402 > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of David McFarlane > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 1:31 PM > To: e-prime at googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: has anyone used eprime on an Intel mac? > > > Ben, > > >in our lab we run some studies in matlab, and others in eprime. it > >just occured to me that we might be able to run both using a single > >computer, and cut down on clutter in the testing space, if we could > >put eprime on a windows partition on our mac. > >any thoughts? has anyone tried this? > > I have not tried this. But I do wonder if you plan to dual-boot > between Mac OS and Windows, or run Windows in a virtual machine > within the Mac OS. I would be very reluctant to trust millisecond > timing within a virtual environment, but maybe that is not important > for your experiment. > > Alternatively, doesn't Matlab also run under Windows? > > > > --- > David McFarlane, Systems Designer > Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University > mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 > Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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In-Reply-To: <474b3b43.2ee1220a.45ce.fffff0e7SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: thanks, david. yes, matlab runs on pcs, but the lab we're currently cooperating with runs all their matlab scripts on macs, and always has, and we'd like to be consistent with their practices. i would definitely be using two drives or two drive partitions to attempt this, not running windows virtually. i can't wait to see if it works! ben On Nov 26, 2007 4:31 PM, David McFarlane wrote: > > Ben, > > >in our lab we run some studies in matlab, and others in eprime. it > >just occured to me that we might be able to run both using a single > >computer, and cut down on clutter in the testing space, if we could > >put eprime on a windows partition on our mac. > >any thoughts? has anyone tried this? > > I have not tried this. But I do wonder if you plan to dual-boot > between Mac OS and Windows, or run Windows in a virtual machine > within the Mac OS. I would be very reluctant to trust millisecond > timing within a virtual environment, but maybe that is not important > for your experiment. > > Alternatively, doesn't Matlab also run under Windows? > > > > --- > David McFarlane, Systems Designer > Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University > mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 > Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josephjaywilliams at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 05:52:55 2007 From: josephjaywilliams at gmail.com (Joseph Williams) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:52:55 -0800 Subject: has anyone used eprime on an Intel mac? In-Reply-To: <121d07f40711262150na17e96p6267c69d2404cc51@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Ben, > > Yes, I've done it several times and I'm currently running experiments with > it. It works fine using boot camp, although it will probably be a bit of a > pain to set it up. Boot camp beta isn't freely available anymore (unless you > have the new Leopard version of Mac OS), and be prepared for things like > your Mac keyboard suddenly not working in the middle of installation! One > point to note is that you might have to install some drivers on your > computer (which are available at PST's support site for E-prime) to get the > computer to recognize the HASP USB key. > > Joseph > > > On Nov 26, 2007 8:22 AM, ben wrote: > > > > > in our lab we run some studies in matlab, and others in eprime. it > > just occured to me that we might be able to run both using a single > > computer, and cut down on clutter in the testing space, if we could > > put eprime on a windows partition on our mac. > > any thoughts? has anyone tried this? > > > > ben > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From depechemoder at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 22:12:19 2007 From: depechemoder at gmail.com (depechecircle) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:12:19 -0800 Subject: feedback after 10 trials Message-ID: Hello! I have 2 questions. 1. Is it possible for a subject to receive feedback only after 10 trials rather than after every trial? If so, how do I do this? 2. Is there a procedure in E-Prime that would make it so that the subject would only be able to proceed to the next list after he/she correctly did the experimental task 10 times in a row? Any help would be appreciated! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 01:01:58 2007 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:01:58 -0500 Subject: feedback after 10 trials In-Reply-To: <42128394-2c1b-4689-b6a9-76fcd62e1093@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: there are any number of ways to do both these things. 1. make a list with two rows. the first row should contain the procedure for your trial. set the weight to 10. the second row will contain the procedure for your feedback. set the weight to 1. this way it will run your trial 10 times before running the feedback procedure. within the trial proc keep track of correct responses using an inline after the stimulus that says 'If stimulus.ACC = 1 Then countcorrect = countcorrect + 1'. you'll need to have declared countcorrect as an Integer in your script window. 2. make one list with lots and lots of trials in it (set weight to... 200). put an inline after your stimulus: last10trials(9) = last10trials(8) last10trials(8) = last10trials(7) last10trials(7) = last10trials(6) last10trials(6) = last10trials(5) last10trials(5) = last10trials(4) last10trials(4) = last10trials(3) last10trials(3) = last10trials(2) last10trials(2) = last10trials(1) last10trials(1) = last10trials(0) last10trials(0) = stimuls.ACC Dim i as Integer Dim sumoflast10 as Integer For i = 0 to 9 sumoflast10 = sumoflast10 + last10trials(i) Next i If sumoflast10 = 10 Then End 'this will terminate the currently running list End If for this to work, of course, you'll need to have 'Dim last10trials(9) as Integer' in your user panel in your script window. good luck. ben On Nov 29, 2007 5:12 PM, depechecircle wrote: > > Hello! > > I have 2 questions. > > 1. Is it possible for a subject to receive feedback only after 10 > trials rather than after every trial? If so, how do I do this? > > 2. Is there a procedure in E-Prime that would make it so that the > subject would only be able to proceed to the next list after he/she > correctly did the experimental task 10 times in a row? > > Any help would be appreciated! > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mumtazfernandez at googlemail.com Fri Nov 30 17:36:38 2007 From: mumtazfernandez at googlemail.com (mumtazfernandez at googlemail.com) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:36:38 -0800 Subject: HELP! UPLOADING IMAGES Message-ID: I'm a third year student trying to start my dissertation but I have to get familiar with e-prime as soon as. At the moment im having problems as my experiment involves showing my participants pictures puzzles but i dont know how to upload my picture puzzles onto e-prime. I read somewhere that you have to convert the files from gif to bitmap but its still not allowing me to upload the pictures. It keeps telling me file not found.... HELP!!!! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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UPLOADING IMAGES In-Reply-To: <02652767-ca42-4951-9bb8-9fb57caf9f1f@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Mumtaz, I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "uploading onto E-Prime", but as far as I know: - E-Prime indeed accepts only bitmap files - these bitmap files have to be in the same folder as the experiment (i.e., the .es or .ebs file(s)) in the course of which the pictures are to be shown - when referencing the files in E-Studio, be sure to spell out the full filename including the file extension .bmp (e.g., puzzle0152.bmp instead of putting only puzzle0152) That's really all I can say without more specific information about the problem you're experiencing. best of luck -- michael On Nov 30, 2007 6:36 PM, mumtazfernandez at googlemail.com wrote: > > I'm a third year student trying to start my dissertation but I have to > get familiar with e-prime as soon as. At the moment im having problems > as my experiment involves showing my participants pictures puzzles but > i dont know how to upload my picture puzzles onto e-prime. I read > somewhere that you have to convert the files from gif to bitmap but > its still not allowing me to upload the pictures. It keeps telling me > file not found.... HELP!!!! > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Nov 30 19:38:55 2007 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:38:55 -0500 Subject: HELP! UPLOADING IMAGES In-Reply-To: Message-ID: To expand on Michael's advice, > - these bitmap files have to be in the same folder as the experiment >(i.e., the .es or .ebs file(s)) in the course of which the pictures >are to be shown You can actually put the image files and other stimulus files into other folders as long as you know how to provide the full path name in E-Prime. But that can be tricky, so best follow Michael's advice for now and keep everything in the same folder as the experiment files. -- David --- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu www.msu.edu/~mcfarla9 Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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I am testing in an MR environment and so a standard trackball mouse will not work. I have written other scripts which successfully employed other Current Designs response units, in particular a 4-button press, by simply adding port and serial devices. The present protocol is an adjusted version of the VisualAnalogScale.es script published on the PST site (Canvas Proc). I thought by changing the port setting to have the device emulate a mouse that I would have an easy solution. Not so. The cursor does not respond to movement of the trackball, but E-Prime does register the button presses from the trackball unit. What am I missing? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Aaron --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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