From baltimore.ben at gmail.com  Tue Apr  1 00:24:30 2008
From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:24:30 -0400
Subject: USB digital pad
In-Reply-To: <2e24b43b0803311648u3c65e1d6r807a6144385af025@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.31.MAR.2008.202430.0400.>

we use these things all the time.  for years we used the gravis game pad
pro, which are sadly no longer available.  now we use the logitech precision
controller.  both controllers require that you download and install a
separate driver to assign keyboard presses to the various buttons, or to
turn unwanted buttons off.  i miss the gravis controllers, or at least their
driver.  it was a little less finicky than the logitech driver, but both
work ok.

ben

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Miguel Jar <migueljar at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, I´m trying to connect a USB digital Pad (like playstation/xbox pads)
> as device in a very simply desing of Eprime, but I cannot make it to work.
> Am I wasting my time or there is any option to make it to run? We usually
> make experiments with children so it´s the perfect tool to work with them
> and I´ve see others programs that can use this kind of device.
>
> Thanks and sorry for my english :)
>
> --
> Miguel López
> Faculty of Psychology
> University of Malaga (Spain)
>
> >
>

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From CadeWarrenCNS at gmail.com  Tue Apr  1 05:12:42 2008
From: CadeWarrenCNS at gmail.com (acadw)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:12:42 -0700
Subject: Using an InLine script for PortOut on multiple ImageDisplays
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In case it wasn't clear, I am trying to avoid using 23 different
InLine scripts, one for each ImageDisplay, and instead place one
InLine at the beginning of the Procedure that uses a variable that can
refer to each ImageDisplay.

On Apr 1, 1:05 am, acadw <CadeWarren... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all, fairly new to E-Prime, though I know most of the basics. I am
> working on an experiment which uses the BART task (balloon analogue
> risk task), which shows a series of balloons that gradually inflate
> bigger and bigger until they explode. There are three types of
> balloons, one of which is set to always explode after one set number
> of expansions (let's say 10 expansions), while the other two are more
> random; for one of these balloons, there are 8 different points at
> which the balloon will explode (let's say the 11th-18th expansions),
> and the final type of balloon will explode at 8 different expansions
> (let's say the 2nd-9th). The actual numbers aren't important, I'm just
> trying to give an idea of the task. Basically, the participant is to
> choose a point at which to stop before the balloon explodes (the task
> measures impulsiveness and is used with drug abusers and such).
>
> The E-Prime is set up with a series of ImageDisplays that is to call
> each picture of a balloon from whatever random list member it pulls
> on. So, if it pulls the balloon with fixed expansion, it will show the
> first picture on ImageDisplay1, second on ImageDisplay2, etc., until
> the user selects a certain balloon size or the balloon explodes. There
> are up to 23 ImageDisplays in this experiment, I believe.
>
> I am converting these experiments from a previous set-up that used
> IFIS (we do not need IFIS, so those settings have been deleted), and I
> am setting it up for fMRI using InLine scripts to dictate that certain
> information to be sent to the TTL output files for each ImageDisplay
> using a kind of Port to transmit particular Attribute information (in
> this case, a fingerpad for the participant to select a certain balloon
> size).
>
> My question is: do I need to place an InLine script for each of these
> ImageDisplays to send its information to the output TTL files upon the
> participant's selection, or is there a way to create some kind of user-
> defined variable in place of the ImageDisplay's name in the InLine
> script? My InLine script looks like this:
>
> TargetImage.OnsetSignalEnabled = true
> TargetImage.OnsetSignalPort = 888
> TargetImage.OnsetSignalData = c.GetAttrib("PortOut")
> TargetImage.OffsetSignalEnabled = true
> TargetImage.OffsetSignalPort = 888
> TargetImage.OffsetSignalData = 0
>
> Basically, the TargetImage can only be one defined object, yet I need
> it to be a variable that can refer to each ImageDisplay we have. Any
> thoughts?
>
> AC
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From CadeWarrenCNS at gmail.com  Tue Apr  1 05:05:33 2008
From: CadeWarrenCNS at gmail.com (acadw)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:05:33 -0700
Subject: Using an InLine script for PortOut on multiple ImageDisplays
Message-ID: <MON.31.MAR.2008.220533.0700.>

Hi all, fairly new to E-Prime, though I know most of the basics. I am
working on an experiment which uses the BART task (balloon analogue
risk task), which shows a series of balloons that gradually inflate
bigger and bigger until they explode. There are three types of
balloons, one of which is set to always explode after one set number
of expansions (let's say 10 expansions), while the other two are more
random; for one of these balloons, there are 8 different points at
which the balloon will explode (let's say the 11th-18th expansions),
and the final type of balloon will explode at 8 different expansions
(let's say the 2nd-9th). The actual numbers aren't important, I'm just
trying to give an idea of the task. Basically, the participant is to
choose a point at which to stop before the balloon explodes (the task
measures impulsiveness and is used with drug abusers and such).

The E-Prime is set up with a series of ImageDisplays that is to call
each picture of a balloon from whatever random list member it pulls
on. So, if it pulls the balloon with fixed expansion, it will show the
first picture on ImageDisplay1, second on ImageDisplay2, etc., until
the user selects a certain balloon size or the balloon explodes. There
are up to 23 ImageDisplays in this experiment, I believe.

I am converting these experiments from a previous set-up that used
IFIS (we do not need IFIS, so those settings have been deleted), and I
am setting it up for fMRI using InLine scripts to dictate that certain
information to be sent to the TTL output files for each ImageDisplay
using a kind of Port to transmit particular Attribute information (in
this case, a fingerpad for the participant to select a certain balloon
size).

My question is: do I need to place an InLine script for each of these
ImageDisplays to send its information to the output TTL files upon the
participant's selection, or is there a way to create some kind of user-
defined variable in place of the ImageDisplay's name in the InLine
script? My InLine script looks like this:

TargetImage.OnsetSignalEnabled = true
TargetImage.OnsetSignalPort = 888
TargetImage.OnsetSignalData = c.GetAttrib("PortOut")
TargetImage.OffsetSignalEnabled = true
TargetImage.OffsetSignalPort = 888
TargetImage.OffsetSignalData = 0

Basically, the TargetImage can only be one defined object, yet I need
it to be a variable that can refer to each ImageDisplay we have. Any
thoughts?

AC
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From petra.schmid at unine.ch  Tue Apr  1 14:37:30 2008
From: petra.schmid at unine.ch (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schmid=2C_Petra=3A_Neuch=E2tel?=)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 07:37:30 -0700
Subject: Randomization
Message-ID: <TUE.1.APR.2008.073730.0700.>

Hi,

I have a randomization problem:

I have 96 pictures that will be presented in four blocks, block A, B,
C, and D. Each of the blocks will have a fixed stimuli set consisting
of 24 stimuli. Like that we will have 4 x  24 stimuli. Block A will
always be the first to be presented followed by the blocks B, C and
D.  Within a block, all 24 stimuli will be presented for the same
time. However, stimuli presentation time (either 100 ms, 2000 ms, 8000
ms or participants' decision) will be randomly assigned to the
different blocks so that all participants will have the same order of
blocks, but the presentation time for the different blocks will differ
between participants. How can I realize that in E-Prime?

Thank you very much for your answers!
Petra
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From cindygooch at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  2 03:18:43 2008
From: cindygooch at yahoo.com (javagirl)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:18:43 -0700
Subject: Back to beginning of block?
Message-ID: <TUE.1.APR.2008.201843.0700.>

Hi all.

I'm trying to make something like a "back" button, so the participant
can go back to the beginning of the current block if they feel they
made a mistake.  I've tried a few ways to do this involving
List.ResetCondtion and List.TerminateCondition but these commands do
not work the way I thought they would.  Any suggestions?

Thanks

Cindy
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From nsparanjape18 at gmail.com  Wed Apr  2 18:43:08 2008
From: nsparanjape18 at gmail.com (Neha)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:43:08 -0700
Subject: Changing x,y co-ordinates (Position) of images in a slide
Message-ID: <WED.2.APR.2008.114308.0700.>

Hi All,

I am developing an e-prime program in which I have a slide object on
which there are 2 images - say imageA and ImageB.The location of these
images on the slide is fixed.So every time the slideobject comes up
ImageA and ImageB would have the same position.

The same slideObject comes up twice in my program and what I need to
implement is that on consecutive slideObject runs the position of
images (ImageA and ImageB) should change.

Whats the best way to implement this?


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From baltimore.ben at gmail.com  Wed Apr  2 19:59:48 2008
From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:59:48 -0400
Subject: Changing x,y co-ordinates (Position) of images in a slide
In-Reply-To: <ce1a85a0-aa55-4d37-8704-e5ab5c546079@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <WED.2.APR.2008.155948.0400.>

in the list object from which the procedure runs that shows these images,
add a nested list on the same row as your procedure appears.  that means,
under the column titled "nested" scroll down to the appropriate row and type
the name of a new list.  let's call it "positions list".  open up positions
list.  create a new column in positions list called "position".  you may
need two columns, depending (one for x-axis, one for y-axis - "posX" and
"posY").  type all the various positions you'd like to use in this(these)
column(s).  then go to your ImageA, and open its preferences.  make the
ImageA object pull its position information from this nested list.  to do
this, type "[posX]" (without the quotation marks) in the X-axis slot, and
type "[posY]" in the Y-axis slot.  that's just one way to do it.  hope that
helps.
ben

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Neha <nsparanjape18 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi All,
>
> I am developing an e-prime program in which I have a slide object on
> which there are 2 images - say imageA and ImageB.The location of these
> images on the slide is fixed.So every time the slideobject comes up
> ImageA and ImageB would have the same position.
>
> The same slideObject comes up twice in my program and what I need to
> implement is that on consecutive slideObject runs the position of
> images (ImageA and ImageB) should change.
>
> Whats the best way to implement this?
>
>
> >
>

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From tiburona at gmail.com  Wed Apr  2 20:50:59 2008
From: tiburona at gmail.com (tiburona)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:50:59 -0700
Subject: Windows Vista
In-Reply-To: <47f147d1.1c99220a.7876.16a3SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <WED.2.APR.2008.135059.0700.>

Thank you lislog and David for telling us all about your experience
with Vista.

On Mar 31, 4:21 pm, David McFarlane <mcfar... at msu.edu> wrote:
> Katie,
>
> At 3/26/2008 06:02 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
>
> >Just to clarify, you would recommend running E-Prime on XP rather than
> >Vista, because it is buggy on Vista?  We are buying new machines and
> >deciding whether to get them loaded with XP or Vista.  It's apparently
> >no longer possible to get the sound card PST says it recommends (here:
> >http://www.pstnet.com/products/e-prime/#require) on an XP machine,
> >only with Vista.
>
> I was away on vacation, luckily others have already filled in, but
> FWIW...  I am reluctant to use the term "buggy" yet.  I only know
> that we get frequent "sound timed out" errors with EP2 under Vista,
> and PST has not yet addressed this problem.  Also, both Vista and EP2
> in general are new and untested, whereas both Win XP and EP1 have
> already proven fairly stable.
>
> As to the sound card, we have never paid any attention to the PST
> recommendations.  At least with EP1, any SoundBlaster-compatible card
> that we had Just Worked.  I expect the same with EP2.  As always, YMMV.
>
> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
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From EDavidse at chdr.nl  Mon Apr  7 08:33:37 2008
From: EDavidse at chdr.nl (Esther Davidse)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 10:33:37 +0200
Subject: Data file output
Message-ID: <MON.7.APR.2008.103337.0200.>

Dear support,

For several years we use e-prime version 1.1. In version 1.1 we were
able to change the scripts by writing directly in the .Ebs file. This
allowed us to automatically change the names of the produced output
files.
Recently we decided to switch from E-prime version 1.1 to E-prime
version 2.0. Especially new functions like video input are features that
might be very useful for us in the future.  
Unfortunately the .ebs files in version 2.0 are encrypted. This means
that we are no longer able to automatically change the names of the
output files. We already struggled to pull the trick by using E-studio
but it seems impossible.
 
We are held by the rules of 'Good Clinical Practice' (GCP).
According to this rules none of the collected data may be lost. It is
crucial for us that data files are saved like this: 

S0001O01M01StroopAPR01_1445.txt
and
S0001O01M01StroopAPR01_1445.ebs

S0001 = variable subject number
O01 = variable occasion number
M01 = variable measurement number
Stroop = name of test
APR01 = current date
1445 = start time of the test.

I really hope that you know a trick to accomplish such ting. Otherwise
I am afraid that the upgrade to version 2.0 is not useful for us.

Sincerely 
Esther Davidse 
Centre for Human Drug Research, Leiden 


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From paulj at psy.uq.edu.au  Mon Apr  7 20:48:20 2008
From: paulj at psy.uq.edu.au (Paul Jackson)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 06:48:20 +1000
Subject: Data file output
In-Reply-To: <47F9F881.17AE.0034.0@chdr.nl>
Message-ID: <TUE.8.APR.2008.064820.1000.>

I think the change to binary files in e-prime 2 was a big mistake. It
was done because some email client/server combinations were mangling the
text files. 

But on many occasions in the last few years I have had an e-prime file
become corrupted and have been able to fix it by messing with the plain
text. Or if it got too mangled you could at least get out some of the
code and paste it into a new project. Additionally binary files don't
work very well in version tracking systems such as CVS (I guess most
EPrime users don't use these anyway). Text files also allow you to
create manipulation scripts which alter the text and as a result change
the EPrime scripts functionality.

For me this is a major step backwards. I would like to see EPrime 2 have
any option to do text and/or binary versions (set the default in
options). Fixing one minor and rare problem which creates other problems
and/or losses in functionality doesn't make sense to me.

Paul

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  
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 Experimental Programmer
 School of Psychology
 University of Queensland
 
 E: paulj at psy.uq.edu.au
 P: 33656950
 W: www.psy.uq.edu.au/~paulj
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Esther Davidse
> Sent: Monday, 7 April 2008 6:34 PM
> To: e-prime at googlegroups.com
> Subject: Data file output
> 
> 
> Dear support,
> 
> For several years we use e-prime version 1.1. In version 1.1 we were
> able to change the scripts by writing directly in the .Ebs file. This
> allowed us to automatically change the names of the produced output
> files.
> Recently we decided to switch from E-prime version 1.1 to E-prime
> version 2.0. Especially new functions like video input are features
> that
> might be very useful for us in the future.
> Unfortunately the .ebs files in version 2.0 are encrypted. This means
> that we are no longer able to automatically change the names of the
> output files. We already struggled to pull the trick by using E-studio
> but it seems impossible.
> 
> We are held by the rules of 'Good Clinical Practice' (GCP).
> According to this rules none of the collected data may be lost. It is
> crucial for us that data files are saved like this:
> 
> S0001O01M01StroopAPR01_1445.txt
> and
> S0001O01M01StroopAPR01_1445.ebs
> 
> S0001 = variable subject number
> O01 = variable occasion number
> M01 = variable measurement number
> Stroop = name of test
> APR01 = current date
> 1445 = start time of the test.
> 
> I really hope that you know a trick to accomplish such ting. Otherwise
> I am afraid that the upgrade to version 2.0 is not useful for us.
> 
> Sincerely
> Esther Davidse
> Centre for Human Drug Research, Leiden
> 
> 
> 

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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu  Tue Apr  8 14:44:51 2008
From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:44:51 -0400
Subject: Image stretch no longer works
Message-ID: <TUE.8.APR.2008.104451.0400.>

In case anybody needs to know, I have just discovered that the 
ImageDisplay "Stretch" option no longer works in some releases of 
E-Prime 2 (e.g., 2.0.1.119).  Stretch does still work for SlideImage 
sub objects.  I have posted this on the PST Forum, I don't know when 
or if PST intends to fix this.

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder 


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From baltimore.ben at gmail.com  Tue Apr  8 14:46:41 2008
From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:46:41 -0400
Subject: Image stretch no longer works
In-Reply-To: <47fb84e4.2ee1220a.13eb.734bSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.8.APR.2008.104641.0400.>

thanks, david.

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:44 AM, David McFarlane <mcfarla9 at msu.edu> wrote:

>
> In case anybody needs to know, I have just discovered that the
> ImageDisplay "Stretch" option no longer works in some releases of
> E-Prime 2 (e.g., 2.0.1.119).  Stretch does still work for SlideImage
> sub objects.  I have posted this on the PST Forum, I don't know when
> or if PST intends to fix this.
>
> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
>
>
> >
>

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From gomez.julia at gmail.com  Tue Apr  8 15:36:49 2008
From: gomez.julia at gmail.com (Julia Gomez)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:36:49 +0100
Subject: visual search
Message-ID: <TUE.8.APR.2008.163649.0100.>

Hi all,

I am preparing a visual search experiment. Does anyone knows how to change
stimuli position (x, y coordintates) to be different from trial to trial?.
Also, I want to combine different set size of stimuli on the screen randomly
from one trial to the next.

Thanks in advance.

Julia

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From edgarmesquita at hotmail.com  Tue Apr  8 18:06:10 2008
From: edgarmesquita at hotmail.com (edgar mesquita)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:06:10 -0700
Subject: images randomized
Message-ID: <TUE.8.APR.2008.110610.0700.>

Hi there,

I´m trying to do the following experiment: I have 20 images that i
want to be presented randomly with limited time duration (this I know
how to do). The only kind of response (by the subject) that I want is
time based (I will be measuring time). I've read the manuals but
couldn't find anything of use. Can anyone help me
pleaaaaaaaaaaaase..I'd really appreciate it
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From valentinosz at gmail.com  Wed Apr  9 20:25:18 2008
From: valentinosz at gmail.com (Valentinos)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:25:18 -0700
Subject: images randomized
In-Reply-To: <50a89ba7-733c-4c38-856e-986f9b0b8f92@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <WED.9.APR.2008.132518.0700.>

Hello,

I am assuming that for each trial you want to present an image and
then the subject needs to press a button. Are you interested to see
how much time has elapsed from the point the image was presented to
the time the subject has pressed a button? There are many ways to do
this. Just give me some more details about what you want to do, lets
say I were a participant, what instructions would you give me?

Valentinos Zachariou
Carnegie Mellon University
Department of Psychology

On Apr 8, 2:06 pm, edgar mesquita <edgarmesqu... at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I´m trying to do the following experiment: I have 20 images that i
> want to be presented randomly with limited time duration (this I know
> how to do). The only kind of response (by the subject) that I want is
> time based (I will be measuring time). I've read the manuals but
> couldn't find anything of use. Can anyone help me
> pleaaaaaaaaaaaase..I'd really appreciate it
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From baltimore.ben at gmail.com  Wed Apr  9 20:45:14 2008
From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:45:14 -0400
Subject: images randomized
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Message-ID: <WED.9.APR.2008.164514.0400.>

start a new eprime file.drag a list item to the top of your.  if you have 20
images, make sure there are 20 rows in your list.  now add a column to your
list.  instead of "Attribute1" call it something meaningful, like
"pictures".  on each of the 20 rows type the name of one of your picture
files.  be sure to include ".bmp" on the end of each filename.  also on
every row, under the "Procedure" column, type "ShowPicsProcedure" and when
it asks if you want to create this procedure say yes.  put that same
procedure on each row of the list.  set the list to Random (without
replacement).
now go to your ShowPicsProcedure timeline, and add an ImageDisplay object,
"ImageDisplay1".  in the properties for this object, select one of your
image files.  doesn't matter which image file you select, because we're
going to write a little code to switch the image each time a new trial runs.
 also in the properties for ImageDisplay1 allow it to accept keyboard
responses, and tell it to terminate when a response is received.  now drag
an Inline object, "Inline1" onto the procedure timeline above/before your
ImageDisplay1 object.  open up Inline1 and type:
ImageDisplay1.Filename = c.GetAttrib("pictures")
ImageDisplay1.Load

that should pretty much do it.


On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:06 PM, edgar mesquita <edgarmesquita at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Hi there,
>
> I´m trying to do the following experiment: I have 20 images that i
> want to be presented randomly with limited time duration (this I know
> how to do). The only kind of response (by the subject) that I want is
> time based (I will be measuring time). I've read the manuals but
> couldn't find anything of use. Can anyone help me
> pleaaaaaaaaaaaase..I'd really appreciate it
> >
>

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From valentinosz at gmail.com  Wed Apr  9 20:34:54 2008
From: valentinosz at gmail.com (Valentinos)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:34:54 -0700
Subject: visual search
In-Reply-To: <f3335a160804080836vf4bb701me0a8aa635a8b18fe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.9.APR.2008.133454.0700.>

Hello,

Step 1

Figure out the resolution you will be displaying the experiment at.

Step 2

Using a slide object, on the properties of the background, set the
Width and the Height to the resolution you will be displaying the
experiment at

Step 3

Add your stimuli, as text, image, whatever. Under their properties of
the stimulus object and on the frame tab (where it will say position
X, Y) put something like [positionX] for X and [PositionY] for Y.

Step 4 in your block list (the one that controls how the each trial
will be presented add to columns that are labeled positionX and
positionY. Whatever you put under those columns in terms of pixel
position (lets say the resolution is 1024x768 then the x,y coordinates
of the center will be 512,384). This way for each trial the X and Y
position of the stimulus in the slide object will be determined by
what you have in those two columns in the blocklist.

I hope this helps,

Valentinos Zachariou
Carnegie Mellon University
Department of Psychology

On Apr 8, 11:36 am, "Julia Gomez" <gomez.ju... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am preparing a visual search experiment. Does anyone knows how to change
> stimuli position (x, y coordintates) to be different from trial to trial?.
> Also, I want to combine different set size of stimuli on the screen randomly
> from one trial to the next.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Julia
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From josephjaywilliams at gmail.com  Thu Apr 10 03:39:54 2008
From: josephjaywilliams at gmail.com (Joseph Williams)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 20:39:54 -0700
Subject: Displaying a countdown timer for participants
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Message-ID: <WED.9.APR.2008.203954.0700.>

Hi Ben,

Thanks for the advice. I'm going to try to implement this soon, so I'll let
you know how it works out.

Joseph

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 6:51 AM, ben robinson <baltimore.ben at gmail.com>
wrote:

> you could try setting your slide's duration to zero (with a response
> window of however many seconds you need).
> then in an inline immediately after the slide is presented...
> Do
>    Select Case SlideX.TimeLimit - (Clock.Read - SlideX.OnsetTime)
>       Case 9995 to 10005
>          c.SetAttribAtSource "Remaining", 10
>       Case 8885 to 9005
>          c.SetAttribAtSource "Remaining", 9
>       Case...
>       Case 995 to 1005
>          c.SetAttribAtSource "Remaining", 1
>    End Select
> Loop While Clock.Read - SlideX.OnsetTime < SlideX.TimeLimit
>
> this is just a guess.  let me know if it works.
>
> ben
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Joseph Williams <
> josephjaywilliams at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, I'd like to be able to display how much time participants have left
> > to make a response- e.g. a textobject on a slide that appears when there are
> > 10 seconds left, and counts down from 10 to 0. Does anyone have any ideas on
> > how to implement this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joseph
> >
> >
>
> >
>

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From josephjaywilliams at gmail.com  Thu Apr 10 03:47:24 2008
From: josephjaywilliams at gmail.com (Joseph Williams)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 20:47:24 -0700
Subject: Script for cleaning up participants' typed responses
Message-ID: <WED.9.APR.2008.204724.0700.>

I've started running several experiments in which I record people's typed
responses: using a slide object, I show a text box on the slide, and "echo"
what they're typing into it. Now I'm trying to look at the responses, but
the problem is that E-prime gives me these responses as literal translations
of what's been typed: e.g.
{SHIFT}The{SPACE}object{SPACE}was{SPACE}of{SPACE}type{SPACE}{SHIFT}G{.}{DOWNARROW}

I'm not sure if this has been solved in E-prime 2.0, but I wanted to find
out if anyone had already written a script for cleaning up this kind of
response (that goes through and gets rid of the spaces,shifts,etc) or if
there was a better way to get this information out of the e-data file (or
even to change how I'm encoding it while the program is running).

Thanks,

Joseph

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From edgarmesquita at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 10 16:15:23 2008
From: edgarmesquita at hotmail.com (Edgar Mesquita)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:15:23 +0000
Subject: images randomized
In-Reply-To: <3345e4a50804091345l52055b44wb2c4b55bd061142d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.10.APR.2008.161523.0000.>


Hi,
Thanks a lot. It's perfect.
 
My best regards
 
Edgar


Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:45:14 -0400From: baltimore.ben at gmail.comTo: e-prime at googlegroups.comSubject: Re: images randomizedstart a new eprime file. 
drag a list item to the top of your.  if you have 20 images, make sure there are 20 rows in your list.  now add a column to your list.  instead of "Attribute1" call it something meaningful, like "pictures".  on each of the 20 rows type the name of one of your picture files.  be sure to include ".bmp" on the end of each filename.  also on every row, under the "Procedure" column, type "ShowPicsProcedure" and when it asks if you want to create this procedure say yes.  put that same procedure on each row of the list.  set the list to Random (without replacement).
now go to your ShowPicsProcedure timeline, and add an ImageDisplay object, "ImageDisplay1".  in the properties for this object, select one of your image files.  doesn't matter which image file you select, because we're going to write a little code to switch the image each time a new trial runs.  also in the properties for ImageDisplay1 allow it to accept keyboard responses, and tell it to terminate when a response is received.  now drag an Inline object, "Inline1" onto the procedure timeline above/before your ImageDisplay1 object.  open up Inline1 and type:
ImageDisplay1.Filename = c.GetAttrib("pictures")
ImageDisplay1.Load

that should pretty much do it.

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Hi there,I´m trying to do the following experiment: I have 20 images that iwant to be presented randomly with limited time duration (this I knowhow to do). The only kind of response (by the subject) that I want istime based (I will be measuring time). I've read the manuals butcouldn't find anything of use. Can anyone help mepleaaaaaaaaaaaase..I'd really appreciate it_________________________________________________________________
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From edgarmesquita at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 10 16:13:51 2008
From: edgarmesquita at hotmail.com (Edgar Mesquita)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:13:51 +0000
Subject: images randomized
In-Reply-To: <f66e6800-b196-4a5f-9a87-9316d1492ffc@a22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <THU.10.APR.2008.161351.0000.>


 Hi,
 
Yesterday I finally did it :) I didn't know how to put embbeded and to write the name.bmp in the list. Many Thanks for the response.
 
My best regards
 
Edgar
> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:25:18 -0700> Subject: Re: images randomized> From: valentinosz at gmail.com> To: e-prime at googlegroups.com> > > Hello,> > I am assuming that for each trial you want to present an image and> then the subject needs to press a button. Are you interested to see> how much time has elapsed from the point the image was presented to> the time the subject has pressed a button? There are many ways to do> this. Just give me some more details about what you want to do, lets> say I were a participant, what instructions would you give me?> > Valentinos Zachariou> Carnegie Mellon University> Department of Psychology> > On Apr 8, 2:06 pm, edgar mesquita <edgarmesqu... at hotmail.com> wrote:> > Hi there,> >> > I´m trying to do the following experiment: I have 20 images that i> > want to be presented randomly with limited time duration (this I know> > how to do). The only kind of response (by the subject) that I want is> > time based (I will be measuring time). I've read the manuals but> > couldn't find anything of use. Can anyone help me> > pleaaaaaaaaaaaase..I'd really appreciate it> _________________________________________________________________
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From BenKapp at gmail.com  Sat Apr 12 13:54:30 2008
From: BenKapp at gmail.com (BenKapp at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 06:54:30 -0700
Subject: Script for cleaning up participants' typed responses
In-Reply-To: <121d07f40804092047m5c92c936y5d804aa6404c143@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.12.APR.2008.065430.0700.>

Joseph,

I'm curious how you created the response box which echo's users input.

Thanks,
Ben

On Apr 9, 11:47 pm, "Joseph Williams" <josephjaywilli... at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I've started running several experiments in which I record people's typed
> responses: using a slide object, I show a text box on the slide, and "echo"
> what they're typing into it. Now I'm trying to look at the responses, but
> the problem is that E-prime gives me these responses as literal translations
> of what's been typed: e.g.
> {SHIFT}The{SPACE}object{SPACE}was{SPACE}of{SPACE}type{SPACE}{SHIFT}G{.}{DOWNARROW}
>
> I'm not sure if this has been solved in E-prime 2.0, but I wanted to find
> out if anyone had already written a script for cleaning up this kind of
> response (that goes through and gets rid of the spaces,shifts,etc) or if
> there was a better way to get this information out of the e-data file (or
> even to change how I'm encoding it while the program is running).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joseph
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From estellaliu at gmail.com  Sun Apr 13 22:15:39 2008
From: estellaliu at gmail.com (estella)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:15:39 -0700
Subject: Start running from a certain block
Message-ID: <SUN.13.APR.2008.151539.0700.>

Hello everyone!

I'm trying to configure my first eprime experiment script. I have 7
blocks in my experiment, and they are presented in fixed sequential
order to the participants. I'm hoping to make the script so that I can
manually tell eprime from which block to start the experiment (and
finish the rest of the blocks). Any suggestion as to which direction I
can try is greatly appreciated!
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From cblais at berkeley.edu  Mon Apr 14 04:50:34 2008
From: cblais at berkeley.edu (cblais at berkeley.edu)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:50:34 -0700
Subject: Start running from a certain block
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Message-ID: <SUN.13.APR.2008.215034.0700.>

1. Configure E-Prime to get a variable from the experimenter called "startblock".

2. Insert an InLine before each list (you'll need to have each block represented in its own list)
that says
if c.getAttrib("startblock") = 2 then
   goto StartBlock2
end if

3. Insert a Flag object called StartBlock1 between block 1 and block 2/

4. Repeat for each list.

I've done this before for an fMRI experiment. If you can't figure it out I can send you a copy of
the script.


> Hello everyone!
>
> I'm trying to configure my first eprime experiment script. I have 7
> blocks in my experiment, and they are presented in fixed sequential
> order to the participants. I'm hoping to make the script so that I can
> manually tell eprime from which block to start the experiment (and
> finish the rest of the blocks). Any suggestion as to which direction I
> can try is greatly appreciated!
> >
>



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From mplenhart at gmail.com  Wed Apr 16 17:10:01 2008
From: mplenhart at gmail.com (Matt Lenhart)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:10:01 -0700
Subject: Script for cleaning up participants' typed responses
In-Reply-To: <121d07f40804092047m5c92c936y5d804aa6404c143@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.16.APR.2008.101001.0700.>

Hi Joseph,

I have added a sample experiment to the Files section of this group
(TextString.es). This sample echoes subject responses and then "cleans
up" the special characters that are used by parsing the string. You
can look through the comments in the script to see how this parsing is
done. The sample only handles a few cases (e.g., Shift, period, etc).
However, you can modify the script to handle many different cases.

Please let me know if you have any questions after looking at the
sample.

Sincerely,
Matt Lenhart
PST Technical Consultant
http://pstnet.com
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From mplenhart at gmail.com  Wed Apr 16 17:31:13 2008
From: mplenhart at gmail.com (Matt Lenhart)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:31:13 -0700
Subject: Image stretch no longer works
In-Reply-To: <47fb84e4.2ee1220a.13eb.734bSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <WED.16.APR.2008.103113.0700.>

Hello,

Just as an update, we have entered this bug into our formal tracking
system, and it will be fixed (along with a few other bugs) in the next
public release of E-Prime 2.0, which should be available within the
next week (you will be able to download it from our web support site).

Sincerely,
Matt Lenhart
PST Technical Consultant
http://pstnet.com
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From mplenhart at gmail.com  Wed Apr 16 17:37:44 2008
From: mplenhart at gmail.com (Matt Lenhart)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:37:44 -0700
Subject: Displaying a countdown timer for participants
In-Reply-To: <121d07f40804092039u3588ee50ya78f906f0610604a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.16.APR.2008.103744.0700.>

Hello,

Ben's advice is very good and is the method we would recommend. I have
added our formal sample (CountDownClock.es) to the Files section of
this group for reference. If you have any questions, please let me
know.

Sincerely,
Matt Lenhart
PST Technical Consultant
http://pstnet.com
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From maheen.adamson at gmail.com  Sat Apr 19 03:21:59 2008
From: maheen.adamson at gmail.com (MMA)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:21:59 -0700
Subject: E prime 2.0 and windows x64
Message-ID: <FRI.18.APR.2008.202159.0700.>

Hello
new in this group. Quick question:
can I run Eprime 2.0 on a windows x64 machine? I am getting this error
after I have installed directx and microsoft framework for x64:
Run-time Error (Line 2488) 10051: An error occurred while attempting
to open the device

Device Name: Sound
Error: 0x00000385
Message: 'Unable to create the DirectX object: 0x88780078'

Please let me know. I have had major issues wiht runnin gon a m70
dell. I run an fmri expt with movies displayed randomly (each is about
45 sec long). expt is about 15 mins.

thank you
MMA
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From jan.p.zeller at mail.uni-oldenburg.de  Tue Apr 22 12:37:51 2008
From: jan.p.zeller at mail.uni-oldenburg.de (berserker-ulf)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:37:51 -0700
Subject: Sending triggers for targets and responses from E-prime
Message-ID: <TUE.22.APR.2008.053751.0700.>

Hi!

I’m new to E-prime, and I hope somebody can help me with this problem:
I tried to run an experiment where three different tones are used as
targets. Every time a tone is emitted, I want E-prime to send a
trigger to another computer. I used the following script, but it only
sends a trigger the first time the tone appears and not in the
following instances:

Dim someCode as integer
someCode = CInt (c.GetAttrib ("triggercode"))
Ton.OnsetSignalEnabled = True
Ton.OnsetSignalPort = &H378
Ton.OnsetSignalData = someCode
Ton.OffsetSignalEnabled = True
Ton.OffsetSignalPort = &H378
Ton.OffsetSignalData = someCode

My second question: How can I send triggers for responses (in this
experiment it’s mouse button clicks)?

Thanks!

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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu  Tue Apr 22 13:56:03 2008
From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:56:03 -0400
Subject: Sending triggers for targets and responses from E-prime
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I have never used the onset & offset signals, but I will hazard a 
guess that your offset signal must be different from your onset 
signal, otherwise the signal never changes once it is set.  Here is 
an example change in your code:

Dim trigOnCode as integer
Dim trigOffCode as integer
trigOnCode = CInt (c.GetAttrib ("TriggerOnCode"))
trigOffCode = CInt (c.GetAttrib ("triggerOffCode"))
Ton.OnsetSignalEnabled = True
Ton.OnsetSignalPort = &H378
Ton.OnsetSignalData = trigOnCode
Ton.OffsetSignalEnabled = True
Ton.OffsetSignalPort = &H378
Ton.OffsetSignalData = trigOffCode

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder


At 4/22/2008 08:37 AM Tuesday, you wrote:
>I tried to run an experiment where three different tones are used as
>targets. Every time a tone is emitted, I want E-prime to send a
>trigger to another computer. I used the following script, but it only
>sends a trigger the first time the tone appears and not in the
>following instances:
>
>Dim someCode as integer
>someCode = CInt (c.GetAttrib ("triggercode"))
>Ton.OnsetSignalEnabled = True
>Ton.OnsetSignalPort = &H378
>Ton.OnsetSignalData = someCode
>Ton.OffsetSignalEnabled = True
>Ton.OffsetSignalPort = &H378
>Ton.OffsetSignalData = someCode


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From raul.oyuela at gmail.com  Tue Apr 22 21:24:05 2008
From: raul.oyuela at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ra=FAl_Oyuela_Vargas?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:24:05 -0500
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=BFSRBOX?= doesn't have a USB cable?
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Message-ID: <TUE.22.APR.2008.162405.0500.>

Hi everybody: 

I have a problem with the serial box response and I hope you can help me.

First of all, the SRBOX doesn't have a USB cable... Nowadays all computers
onlu use USB.... So, for the SRBOX I had to buy an USB/Serial conversor.
Don't you have this cable available for news computers?

Another problem is, the SRBOX is not responding. I don´t know if the problem
is in the USB/Serial Conversor. The error message is:

Device name: SRBOX

Error: 0x00002329

Message: "unable to open the SRBOX".

I really need your help because the study can't continue without it.

Raúl Oyuela Vargas, M.Phil. 
Director Laboratorio de Psicología, PUJ 
Carrera 5 N. 39-00 Edificio Manuel Briceño 
Tel 3208320 Ext. 5713 
Fax 3208320 Ext. 5717

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From josephjaywilliams at gmail.com  Wed Apr 23 00:24:24 2008
From: josephjaywilliams at gmail.com (Joseph Williams)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:24:24 -0700
Subject: Playing multiple videos at once
Message-ID: <TUE.22.APR.2008.172424.0700.>

I haven't had a chance to use E-prime 2.0 yet, and I wanted to ask a
question about it: I know you can play movies in it, but is it possible to
play more than one movie at once? For example, to play four movies at once,
one in each corner of the screen? Also, I was curious if there is any
documentation available on what the limits on playing movies are: how long
they can be, what size, what particular formats.

Thanks,

Joseph

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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu  Wed Apr 23 00:30:06 2008
From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David K McFarlane)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:30:06 -0400
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?=EF=BF=BDSRBOX?= doesn't have a USB cable?
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Raúl, 

My first guess is that the COM setting (COM1, COM2, etc.) on your USB to 
serial converter does not match the COM setting of your E-Prime experiment.  
First, check the COM setting of your converter -- I can't tell you how to do 
that, but your IT staff should be able to help you there.  Your converter 
should have come with software to let you change its settings.  Set it to 
use COM1 if you can, otherwise use anything from COM2 to COM4 (E-Prime 
cannot see anything above COM4). 

Then, in your E-Prime experiment program, open the Experiment properties 
(e.g., double-click on the Experiment object).  Go to the Devices tab (I'm 
doing this from memory, so I hope I get this right or someone else corrects 
me).  Open the SRBox object (I assume your experiment has one, otherwise you 
will have to add it).  Note the setting for COM port.  Make sure that it is 
set to the same port as your USB to serial converter.  Note that the E-Prime 
uses COM1 by default, so if you can set your converter to COM1 it should 
already work with E-Prime.  If you do need to change the SRBox COM setting 
to match your converter, note that you will have to do this for *each* 
experiment program, as this setting is stored separately for each program.  
Finally, if you move the experiment between computers you might have to 
change the SRBox COM setting to match each computer.  As you can see, life 
gets a lot easier if you can make sure that your SRBox can plug into 
something that is already assigned as COM1! 

Oh, you might also have to check other settings on your USB to serial 
converter, e.g., baud rate, stop bits, data bits, etc. 

BTW, if it were me, if at all possible I would install a real serial port 
adapter into a free slot instead of using a USB to serial converter.  The 
converter may work fine, but I just feel better with a real card.  Just my 
unsolicited $0.02. 

 -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder 


> I have a problem with the serial box response and I hope you can help me. 
> 
> First of all, the SRBOX doesn't have a USB cable... Nowadays all computers
> onlu use USB.... So, for the SRBOX I had to buy an USB/Serial conversor.
> Don't you have this cable available for news computers? 
> 
> Another problem is, the SRBOX is not responding. I don´t know if the problem
> is in the USB/Serial Conversor. The error message is: 
> 
> Device name: SRBOX 
> 
> Error: 0x00002329 
> 
> Message: "unable to open the SRBOX". 
> 
> I really need your help because the study can't continue without it. 
> 
> Raúl Oyuela Vargas, M.Phil. 
> Director Laboratorio de Psicología, PUJ 
> Carrera 5 N. 39-00 Edificio Manuel Briceño 
> Tel 3208320 Ext. 5713 
> Fax 3208320 Ext. 5717



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From gomez.julia at gmail.com  Thu Apr 24 00:12:16 2008
From: gomez.julia at gmail.com (Julia Gomez)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:12:16 +0100
Subject: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response
Message-ID: <THU.24.APR.2008.011216.0100.>

Hi everyone,

Could anyone help with the following script? I am doing a interrupted visual
search task. I am presenting a screen with the stimuli array for the search
task followed by another screen with a blank screen. Once a trial has
started I would like this trial to repeat (i.e stimuli array and white
screen over and over) until a maximum of 16 times or  until the participant
responds. I created the following script but is giving me an error. I am not
familiar writing scripts in eprime.

Dim count as string

count=0

While count<17 ' *I need to repeat a trial up to 16 times or until response*
   If StimuliArray.RESP = " " Then ' *I am not sure how to tell eprime if
there is no response. *
       Goto ShowStimAgain ' *this is a label that I inserted after the
fixation cross*
   End If
count = count +1
End

Any help would be very appreciated.

Thanks

Julia Gómez

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From keidel at gmail.com  Thu Apr 24 01:10:30 2008
From: keidel at gmail.com (James Keidel)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:10:30 +0100
Subject: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response
In-Reply-To: <f3335a160804231712n6ec32876v41157ec63a2b3d5b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.24.APR.2008.021030.0100.>

hey

I'm not sure exactly how to fix the whole script, but for sure you
need to declare the counter as an integer, not a string.  you can't
increment a string that way.  also, eprime likes variable references
to have a type signifier, so you want to say count% = count% + 1  bc %
means integer.  in addition, although it is rather inelegant, you
could just have a single TrialProc with 16 alternating stim arrays and
blanks, where each one had a max duration but the stim arrays also
accepted input and had an end action which jumped to your label.

JK

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Julia Gomez <gomez.julia at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Could anyone help with the following script? I am doing a interrupted visual
> search task. I am presenting a screen with the stimuli array for the search
> task followed by another screen with a blank screen. Once a trial has
> started I would like this trial to repeat (i.e stimuli array and white
> screen over and over) until a maximum of 16 times or  until the participant
> responds. I created the following script but is giving me an error. I am not
> familiar writing scripts in eprime.
>
> Dim count as string
>
> count=0
>
> While count<17 ' I need to repeat a trial up to 16 times or until response
>    If StimuliArray.RESP = " " Then ' I am not sure how to tell eprime if
> there is no response.
>        Goto ShowStimAgain ' this is a label that I inserted after the
> fixation cross
>    End If
> count = count +1
> End
>
> Any help would be very appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Julia Gómez
>
>  >
>

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From MSpape at FSW.leidenuniv.nl  Thu Apr 24 01:27:00 2008
From: MSpape at FSW.leidenuniv.nl (Michiel Spape)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:27:00 +0200
Subject: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response
Message-ID: <THU.24.APR.2008.032700.0200.>

Hi Julia,
 
How about this? A bit late, so maybe I'm making a couple of errors myself, but I hope it helps.
 
Dim count as string  ' this should be in the user script, else the count is reset
 
count=0 ' this should be at the start of the trial, else it starts at 0 every time

'after the StimuliArray... I suppose this is a textDisplay or something?:
if (StimuliArray.Resp = "") AND (count < 17) then   'if no response is given and the number of that happened (count) is smaller than 17
   count = count + 1   'then continue counting
   goto ShowStimAgain   'and go back AFTER counting (otherwise it never counts because it went to the label before that)
   end if  'and to end a while statement, I think e-prime expects you to use WEnd; 
 
Cheers,
 
Michiel Spapé
 
 

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Aan: e-prime at googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response


Hi everyone,

Could anyone help with the following script? I am doing a interrupted visual search task. I am presenting a screen with the stimuli array for the search task followed by another screen with a blank screen. Once a trial has started I would like this trial to repeat (i.e stimuli array and white screen over and over) until a maximum of 16 times or  until the participant responds. I created the following script but is giving me an error. I am not familiar writing scripts in eprime.

Dim count as string 
 
count=0 

While count<17 ' I need to repeat a trial up to 16 times or until response
   If StimuliArray.RESP = " " Then ' I am not sure how to tell eprime if there is no response. 
       Goto ShowStimAgain ' this is a label that I inserted after the fixation cross
   End If 
count = count +1 
End 

Any help would be very appreciated. 

Thanks

Julia Gómez




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From MSpape at FSW.leidenuniv.nl  Thu Apr 24 07:16:12 2008
From: MSpape at FSW.leidenuniv.nl (Michiel Spape)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:16:12 +0200
Subject: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response
Message-ID: <THU.24.APR.2008.091612.0200.>

Oh yes, there's something I forgot! Though I never use type signifiers, certainly not if the variable is already declared as an integer (instead of, say, a variant).
Cheers,
Mich
 
So:

Dim count as integer  ' this should be in the user script, else the count is reset
 
count=0 ' this should be at the start of the trial, else it starts at 0 every time


'after the StimuliArray... I suppose this is a textDisplay or something?:

if (StimuliArray.Resp = "") AND (count < 17) then   'if no response is given and the number of that happened (count) is smaller than 17

   count = count + 1   'then continue counting

   goto ShowStimAgain   'and go back AFTER counting (otherwise it never counts because it went to the label before that)

   end if  'and to end a while statement, I think e-prime expects you to use WEnd; 

 

 
________________________________

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Verzonden: do 24-4-2008 3:10
Aan: e-prime at googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response




hey

I'm not sure exactly how to fix the whole script, but for sure you
need to declare the counter as an integer, not a string.  you can't
increment a string that way.  also, eprime likes variable references
to have a type signifier, so you want to say count% = count% + 1  bc %
means integer.  

 


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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu  Thu Apr 24 19:00:03 2008
From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:00:03 -0400
Subject: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response
In-Reply-To: <f3335a160804231712n6ec32876v41157ec63a2b3d5b@mail.gmail.co m>
Message-ID: <THU.24.APR.2008.150003.0400.>

Julia,

And here's another way to do it, without using a 
counter, and making use of functionality built in to E-Prime objects.

First, I assume that your search task, with 
stimulus array and blank screen, is in a 
Proc.  Let's call that PresentationProc.

Now, put PresentationProc in a list object, let's 
call that PresentationList.  So PresentationList 
has just one row with your PresentationProc in 
it, and your structure looks something like this:

PresentationList
     PresentationProc
         StimArray
         BlankScreen
         TrialFinishScript

Now comes the fun.  To make PresentationProc 
repeat, say, 16 times, you can do one of two 
things in the PresentationList:  (1) Give your 
PresentationProc row a weight of 16 (most users 
will find this the more natural way), or  (2) in 
the properties page of the PresentationList, go 
to the Reset/Exit tab and set it to exit after 16 cycles (my preferred method).

OK, now your trial will last for 16 
presentations.  How to get it to stop after a 
response?  You just need one line of script in TrialFinishScript, e.g.,

If Not(StimArray.InputMasks.IsPending()) Then PresentationList.Terminate

That's it.  The .Terminate will make the list exit early.

Now, a bit more to the lesson.  There are several 
ways for script to detect a response.  Here are 
four tests that return True if a response has occured to Stim:
- If Not(Stim.InputMasks.IsPending()) Then ...
- If Stim.RT <> 0 Then ...
- If Stim.RTTime <> 0 Then ...
- If Stim.RESP <> "" Then ...

Note that .IsPending() returns False if either it 
has received a response or the response time 
limit has passed, so it only works while waiting 
for a response (i.e., it will not work afterwards 
to tell whether or not a response was received 
earlier).  Other than that, which test you use is largely a matter of taste.

For more information on these, please see the 
List Object and InputMask Object topics in the E-Basic online help.

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder


At 4/23/2008 08:12 PM Wednesday, Julia Gomez wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
>Could anyone help with the following script? I 
>am doing a interrupted visual search task. I am 
>presenting a screen with the stimuli array for 
>the search task followed by another screen with 
>a blank screen. Once a trial has started I would 
>like this trial to repeat (i.e stimuli array and 
>white screen over and over) until a maximum of 
>16 times or  until the participant responds. I 
>created the following script but is giving me an 
>error. I am not familiar writing scripts in eprime.
>
>Dim count as string
>
>count=0
>
>While count<17 ' I need to repeat a trial up to 16 times or until response
>    If StimuliArray.RESP = " " Then ' I am not 
> sure how to tell eprime if there is no response.
>        Goto ShowStimAgain ' this is a label 
> that I inserted after the fixation cross
>    End If
>count = count +1
>End
>
>Any help would be very appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>Julia Gómez


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From matilda78 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 25 20:33:07 2008
From: matilda78 at gmail.com (Stefania)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:33:07 -0700
Subject: nested to nested...
Message-ID: <FRI.25.APR.2008.133307.0700.>

Hi folks,
I was wandering if it is possible to refer to a nested list from
another nested list (yeah I know... it is a kludge, I am working on a
script which is supposed to be elegant but it takes time...). So,
stimuli are picked up from an attribute [Letter] that is located on a
nested list "TargetList". Some levels of the "Letter" attribute are
referring to another attribute [LetterR] that is located on the nested
list "RandomLetterList". A run-time error occurred: Factor Error-989.
Cannot resolve [LetterR] in this context...
Any suggestion would be appreciated.

Best,
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From carlf4567 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 25 20:53:29 2008
From: carlf4567 at gmail.com (CarlF)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:53:29 -0700
Subject: Displaying a countdown timer for participants
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Hi Matt -

Thanks for making the very helpful example available for download.

I do have a further question.

If the countdown timer in CountDownClock.es were not text, but
rather were a series of images to be presented through the services
of a SlideImage object, can I do a Load before the Draw inside the
countdown loop, without the Load of the next image glitching the
display of the image that was Draw(n) in the previous iteration
of the loop?

Suppose I put a first Load outside the loop, and then have the in-loop
order of operations be to Draw, and then to Load the next image.
Does this give me fairly fine grained control of when images
are displayed?  Is there any time auditing info that will reliably
tell
me when the most recent Draw of any SlideStim child object occurred,
so that I can track time stolen by the o/s?

Lastly, assuming that Draw and Load are atomic in the way that
I'm hoping: Suppose that I'm drawing a succession of large images
to a screen region--for purposes of discussion, let's say its a
pre-animated full-screen countdown timer running at 30 frames
a second--that may not reliably roll off of disk fast enough.  Is
there a way I can buffer these images outside the countdown
loop, and then Load them from the in-memory buffer to the
SlideImage object, so that they are available well before I get
back around to the Draw operation?

Thanks so much for your help.

Cheers,

Carl F.


On Apr 16, 12:37 pm, Matt Lenhart <mplenh... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Ben's advice is very good and is the method we would recommend. I have
> added our formal sample (CountDownClock.es) to the Files section of
> this group for reference. If you have any questions, please let me
> know.
>
> Sincerely,
> Matt Lenhart
> PST Technical Consultanthttp://pstnet.com
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From yuvharpaz at gmail.com  Sun Apr 27 19:08:34 2008
From: yuvharpaz at gmail.com (uv)
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:08:34 -0700
Subject: getting started with script
Message-ID: <SUN.27.APR.2008.120834.0700.>

hi there
I have built quite a few experiments using the e-prime studio, and I
have some basic understanding in writing script (with matlab at
least). is there a file available with basic information regarding how
to define integers, how to jump backward or forward in the experiment
procedure etc?
thanks
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From gomez.julia at gmail.com  Sun Apr 27 19:53:38 2008
From: gomez.julia at gmail.com (Julia Gomez)
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:53:38 +0100
Subject: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response
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Dear all,

Thank you very much for you help! I have the eprime programe almost done!
(thanks to your advices!).

I came across with a couple of more problems:

(1) Measuring RT from the first display.

As I as previously explained, I present a visual array of stimuli followed
by a blank screen upto 16 times or until response (stimArray+Blank,
stimArray+Blank, and so on). The RT measure I get is just from the last
stimArray+Blank ( the one you respond to, instead of being from the first
one). I would like to have a measure of the RT from the first display until
response (whether is one or 16 displays). Is there a way to do this?

(2) Set one stimuli from the distractor list to be target for just that
session.

I have a set of targets in a list and the distractors in a separate nested
lists. For the baseline condition, I would be ideal if I could call randomly
one of the distractors and set it to be one of the targets (for only that
session and in the following session it will become again a distractor, and,
of course, in that session is never seen as a distractor).


Any help is very appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Julia


2008/4/24 David McFarlane <mcfarla9 at msu.edu>:

>
> Julia,
>
> And here's another way to do it, without using a
> counter, and making use of functionality built in to E-Prime objects.
>
> First, I assume that your search task, with
> stimulus array and blank screen, is in a
> Proc.  Let's call that PresentationProc.
>
> Now, put PresentationProc in a list object, let's
> call that PresentationList.  So PresentationList
> has just one row with your PresentationProc in
> it, and your structure looks something like this:
>
> PresentationList
>     PresentationProc
>         StimArray
>         BlankScreen
>         TrialFinishScript
>
> Now comes the fun.  To make PresentationProc
> repeat, say, 16 times, you can do one of two
> things in the PresentationList:  (1) Give your
> PresentationProc row a weight of 16 (most users
> will find this the more natural way), or  (2) in
> the properties page of the PresentationList, go
> to the Reset/Exit tab and set it to exit after 16 cycles (my preferred
> method).
>
> OK, now your trial will last for 16
> presentations.  How to get it to stop after a
> response?  You just need one line of script in TrialFinishScript, e.g.,
>
> If Not(StimArray.InputMasks.IsPending()) Then PresentationList.Terminate
>
> That's it.  The .Terminate will make the list exit early.
>
> Now, a bit more to the lesson.  There are several
> ways for script to detect a response.  Here are
> four tests that return True if a response has occured to Stim:
> - If Not(Stim.InputMasks.IsPending()) Then ...
> - If Stim.RT <> 0 Then ...
> - If Stim.RTTime <> 0 Then ...
> - If Stim.RESP <> "" Then ...
>
> Note that .IsPending() returns False if either it
> has received a response or the response time
> limit has passed, so it only works while waiting
> for a response (i.e., it will not work afterwards
> to tell whether or not a response was received
> earlier).  Other than that, which test you use is largely a matter of
> taste.
>
> For more information on these, please see the
> List Object and InputMask Object topics in the E-Basic online help.
>
> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
>
>
> At 4/23/2008 08:12 PM Wednesday, Julia Gomez wrote:
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >Could anyone help with the following script? I
> >am doing a interrupted visual search task. I am
> >presenting a screen with the stimuli array for
> >the search task followed by another screen with
> >a blank screen. Once a trial has started I would
> >like this trial to repeat (i.e stimuli array and
> >white screen over and over) until a maximum of
> >16 times or  until the participant responds. I
> >created the following script but is giving me an
> >error. I am not familiar writing scripts in eprime.
> >
> >Dim count as string
> >
> >count=0
> >
> >While count<17 ' I need to repeat a trial up to 16 times or until
> response
> >    If StimuliArray.RESP = " " Then ' I am not
> > sure how to tell eprime if there is no response.
> >        Goto ShowStimAgain ' this is a label
> > that I inserted after the fixation cross
> >    End If
> >count = count +1
> >End
> >
> >Any help would be very appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Julia Gómez
>
>
> >
>

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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu  Mon Apr 28 18:40:07 2008
From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:40:07 -0400
Subject: getting started with script
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At 4/27/2008 03:08 PM Sunday, you wrote:
>I have built quite a few experiments using the e-prime studio, and I
>have some basic understanding in writing script (with matlab at
>least). is there a file available with basic information regarding how
>to define integers, how to jump backward or forward in the experiment
>procedure etc?

So far as I know, you have exactly two resources:  (1) Chapter 4 of 
the E-Prime User's Guide (printed or .pdf)  (2) The online E-Basic help.

I don't know how useful the User's Guide is for this, I already knew 
a lot of programming principles before I started on E-Prime and I 
have mostly puzzled things out myself, but now that I've taken a 
glance at Chapter 4 I can see it might have saved me some work.  (I 
would be curious to get others' takes.)

I have found the online E-Basic help to be much more useful (in 
E-Studio, go to Help > E-Basic Help).  Even so, be warned that the 
online help is still incomplete (e.g., 
http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic1241-12-1.aspx ), and in some 
cases just plain wrong (e.g., 
http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic1197-5-1.aspx ).

Finally, E-Basic is really a dialect of Microsoft Visual Basic, so 
you might gain something from VB manuals.  Unfortunately, most of the 
VB manuals I find are geared toward explaining how to design GUI 
elements rather than how to write code, so I cannot recommend one, if 
someone else knows a good VB reference I would be glad to know it.

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder


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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu  Mon Apr 28 18:51:52 2008
From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:51:52 -0400
Subject: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response
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Message-ID: <MON.28.APR.2008.145152.0400.>

Julia,

>(1) Measuring RT from the first display.
>
>As I as previously explained, I present a visual array of stimuli 
>followed by a blank screen upto 16 times or until response 
>(stimArray+Blank, stimArray+Blank, and so on). The RT measure I get 
>is just from the last stimArray+Blank ( the one you respond to, 
>instead of being from the first one). I would like to have a measure 
>of the RT from the first display until response (whether is one or 
>16 displays). Is there a way to do this?

There are several ways to do this.  Here is one, for example.  You 
will have to add some script to the start and end of your 
PresentationList, so the structure might now look like this:

RTStartScript
PresentationList
     PresentationProc
         StimArray
         BlankScreen
         TrialFinishScript
RTFinishScript

RTStartScript contains script like this:
Dim TrialT0 as Long
TrialT0 = Clock.Read

RTFinishScript contains script like this:
StimArray.RT = StimArray.RTTime - TrialT0

This assumes that you want to allow a response only during the 
presentation of each StimArray.  If you want to allow a response any 
time during the PresentationList loop, there are other techniques, 
which I could explain if asked.

Once again, for more information you can look at the Clock Object and 
InputMask Object topics in the online E-Basic help.


I do not have an answer for your second request, I will leave that to 
others more talented than me.

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder


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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu  Mon Apr 28 19:06:50 2008
From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:06:50 -0400
Subject: nested to nested...
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Stefania,

>I was wandering if it is possible to refer to a nested list from
>another nested list (yeah I know... it is a kludge, I am working on a
>script which is supposed to be elegant but it takes time...). So,
>stimuli are picked up from an attribute [Letter] that is located on a
>nested list "TargetList". Some levels of the "Letter" attribute are
>referring to another attribute [LetterR] that is located on the nested
>list "RandomLetterList". A run-time error occurred: Factor Error-989.
>Cannot resolve [LetterR] in this context...

Just for fun, using EP1 I made a quick demo with nested lists in 
nested lists, i.e.,
List1
     List2
         List3
             List4

and an attribute in each list for display.  No problem.  So it can be 
done, don't know what causes your Factor Error-989.  I would first 
look to make sure that there is no collision of the same attribute 
names from multiple lists, or circular chain of attribute 
references.  Then again, I just purposely introduced a circular 
reference, and that produced the error, "Factor Error:  Circular 
attribute reference: ... references itself in this context. 
...  Error Number:-992", so I guess that's not your problem.

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder


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From scampbell at casl.umd.edu  Mon Apr 28 19:54:44 2008
From: scampbell at casl.umd.edu (Susan G. Campbell)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:54:44 -0400
Subject: getting started with script
Message-ID: <MON.28.APR.2008.155444.0400.>

I don't remember how good the manual is, though the E-Basic Help from within the program is useful, especially if you have a question that's specific to E-Prime, not to VBA (on which E-Basic is based) in general.   

I also found the O'Reilly book on VBA very useful when I was doing more E-Prime programming than I do now; the one I have is called VB & VBA in a Nutshell: The Language.  It's from 1998, but I don't think E-Basic has changed very much since then.  

For instance, I used that book when I needed to know how to specify colors that don't have names in E-Prime, since it could tell me how VBA represents colors (and the E-Basic Help was silent on the issue, as far as I could tell).  I imagine any book on VBA would do -- I just liked that one because it's got an alphabetical listing of the various components of the language; I wasn't interested in a tutorial, just a reference.

Hope this helps,
Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: e-prime at googlegroups.com on behalf of David McFarlane
Sent: Mon 4/28/2008 2:40 PM
To: e-prime at googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with script
 

At 4/27/2008 03:08 PM Sunday, you wrote:
>I have built quite a few experiments using the e-prime studio, and I
>have some basic understanding in writing script (with matlab at
>least). is there a file available with basic information regarding how
>to define integers, how to jump backward or forward in the experiment
>procedure etc?

So far as I know, you have exactly two resources:  (1) Chapter 4 of 
the E-Prime User's Guide (printed or .pdf)  (2) The online E-Basic help.

I don't know how useful the User's Guide is for this, I already knew 
a lot of programming principles before I started on E-Prime and I 
have mostly puzzled things out myself, but now that I've taken a 
glance at Chapter 4 I can see it might have saved me some work.  (I 
would be curious to get others' takes.)

I have found the online E-Basic help to be much more useful (in 
E-Studio, go to Help > E-Basic Help).  Even so, be warned that the 
online help is still incomplete (e.g., 
http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic1241-12-1.aspx ), and in some 
cases just plain wrong (e.g., 
http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic1197-5-1.aspx ).

Finally, E-Basic is really a dialect of Microsoft Visual Basic, so 
you might gain something from VB manuals.  Unfortunately, most of the 
VB manuals I find are geared toward explaining how to design GUI 
elements rather than how to write code, so I cannot recommend one, if 
someone else knows a good VB reference I would be glad to know it.

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From: MSpape at FSW.leidenuniv.nl (Michiel Spape)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:38:17 +0200
Subject: getting started with script
Message-ID: <TUE.29.APR.2008.013817.0200.>

Hi all,
There's also my little tutorial-style coursebook: http://herr.tegendemuur.nl/binding/AnEPrimer.pdf . I can't claim it's incredibly accurate, and you have to be able to cope with a number of bad jokes, needless anecdotes, and fanaticism for conflict/control experiments, but it tends to do the trick for my students as well as some colleagues. By the end of summer, it should be fully corrected, and be based on E-Prime2 style as well as contain a number of useful appendices on SR-Box, Tobi-Eyetracking and the like.
Cheers,
 
Michiel Spapé

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Van: e-prime at googlegroups.com namens Susan G. Campbell
Verzonden: ma 28-4-2008 21:54
Aan: e-prime at googlegroups.com; e-prime at googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: getting started with script



I don't remember how good the manual is, though the E-Basic Help from within the program is useful, especially if you have a question that's specific to E-Prime, not to VBA (on which E-Basic is based) in general.  

I also found the O'Reilly book on VBA very useful when I was doing more E-Prime programming than I do now; the one I have is called VB & VBA in a Nutshell: The Language.  It's from 1998, but I don't think E-Basic has changed very much since then. 

For instance, I used that book when I needed to know how to specify colors that don't have names in E-Prime, since it could tell me how VBA represents colors (and the E-Basic Help was silent on the issue, as far as I could tell).  I imagine any book on VBA would do -- I just liked that one because it's got an alphabetical listing of the various components of the language; I wasn't interested in a tutorial, just a reference.

Hope this helps,
Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: e-prime at googlegroups.com on behalf of David McFarlane
Sent: Mon 4/28/2008 2:40 PM
To: e-prime at googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with script


At 4/27/2008 03:08 PM Sunday, you wrote:
>I have built quite a few experiments using the e-prime studio, and I
>have some basic understanding in writing script (with matlab at
>least). is there a file available with basic information regarding how
>to define integers, how to jump backward or forward in the experiment
>procedure etc?

So far as I know, you have exactly two resources:  (1) Chapter 4 of
the E-Prime User's Guide (printed or .pdf)  (2) The online E-Basic help.

I don't know how useful the User's Guide is for this, I already knew
a lot of programming principles before I started on E-Prime and I
have mostly puzzled things out myself, but now that I've taken a
glance at Chapter 4 I can see it might have saved me some work.  (I
would be curious to get others' takes.)

I have found the online E-Basic help to be much more useful (in
E-Studio, go to Help > E-Basic Help).  Even so, be warned that the
online help is still incomplete (e.g.,
http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic1241-12-1.aspx ), and in some
cases just plain wrong (e.g.,
http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic1197-5-1.aspx ).

Finally, E-Basic is really a dialect of Microsoft Visual Basic, so
you might gain something from VB manuals.  Unfortunately, most of the
VB manuals I find are geared toward explaining how to design GUI
elements rather than how to write code, so I cannot recommend one, if
someone else knows a good VB reference I would be glad to know it.

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder










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From tomtom02 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 29 20:09:13 2008
From: tomtom02 at gmail.com (darth levator)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:09:13 -0700
Subject: null response question
In-Reply-To: <002f01c88315$a740c1d0$f5c24570$@edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.29.APR.2008.130913.0700.>

Hi Chris,
I noticed you were helping Maxfield with programming E-prime to make
no response the correct response. Just to make sure I have this right:
If you leave "Correct Response" blank, it will recognize that no
response is correct and any other key press will be considered
incorrect? Also, the same goes if I'm loading the correct response
from a column in text file? That is, I just leave the cell blank?
Thanks
Tom in Nashville

On Mar 10, 8:17 pm, "Chris Blais" <cbl... at berkeley.edu> wrote:
> Are you sure you left it blank and not " "? I've done it before and it's worked
> fine. I can send you the script if you'd like.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of Maxfield
> > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:09 PM
> > To: E-Prime
> > Subject: nullresponsequestion
>
> > I'm running a go/nogo task, and would like Eprime to score accuracy
> > (ACC) as it usually does.  Things are working just fine for my "go"
> > trials.  However, I'm running into a problem on "nogo" trials.  Since
> >noresponseis logged (nobutton press), I have included zeros in my
> > "correctresponse" column, but Eprime scores these as error trials.
> > I've also tried leaving the "correct answer" cells blank for "nogo"
> > trials, but the outcome is the same.  Any advice on how I can get
> > Eprime to treat correct "nogo" trials (null responses) as correct?
>
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Nathan from Tampa
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From AndyB1976 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 30 11:08:31 2008
From: AndyB1976 at gmail.com (Andrew Brand)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:08:31 -0700
Subject: Using E-Prime on an Intel Mac using Boot Camp
Message-ID: <WED.30.APR.2008.040831.0700.>

Has anyone use E-prime on a Intel Mac using Boot Camp?
If so then what have been your experiences? Were you able to use the
PST SRBox via a USB to Serial Adapter? And did you by any chance check
the accuracy of your RT data by using the BlackBox Toolkit?


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From baltimore.ben at gmail.com  Wed Apr 30 11:28:21 2008
From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:28:21 -0400
Subject: Using E-Prime on an Intel Mac using Boot Camp
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i'm using it now.  so long as you're booting up on the pc side of your
hardrive, i wouldn't expect any timing issues that you wouldn't see on a
normal pc, but i haven't used the blackbox toolkit to test it.
on another computer i'm using parallels to virtually run XP, and eprime, but
i don't expect this machine to keep good time - this is only used for
experiment design, not for data collection.

ben

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Andrew Brand <AndyB1976 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Has anyone use E-prime on a Intel Mac using Boot Camp?
> If so then what have been your experiences? Were you able to use the
> PST SRBox via a USB to Serial Adapter? And did you by any chance check
> the accuracy of your RT data by using the BlackBox Toolkit?
>
>
> >
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From annh_22 at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 30 14:14:45 2008
From: annh_22 at yahoo.com (ms)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:14:45 -0700
Subject: Feedback after each trial of two stimuli (dual-task)
Message-ID: <WED.30.APR.2008.071445.0700.>

I would appreciate it if you could help me with the following as what
I am trying to do does not seem to work:
Participants will see a pair of shapes (a circle followed by a square,
and vice versa). Each shape will be presented for a few ms. The square
is the target and can be either blue or green. Participants' task is
to press a Blue or Green button on a buttonbox when the square is blue
or green respectively. I will have 16 trials, so I want 4 with the
circle presented first and the blue square second, 4 with the circle
presented first and the green square second, 4 with the blue square
first and the circle second, and 4 with the green square first and the
circle second.
What I find difficult to do is give participants FEEDBACK after each
trial. If to get feedback I can only specify one input image, how can
feedback be calculated when there are 2 images in this dual task???
I would appreciate any help as I am stuck...
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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu  Wed Apr 30 14:59:28 2008
From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David K McFarlane)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:59:28 -0400
Subject: Feedback after each trial of two stimuli (dual-task)
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ms writes: 


> What I find difficult to do is give participants FEEDBACK after each
> trial. If to get feedback I can only specify one input image, how can
> feedback be calculated when there are 2 images in this dual task???
 

Let me see if I understand this -- On each trial you present two stimuli, 
and get a response for each stimulus.  Then you want to give feedback about 
whether both responses were correct. 


If that is the case, then you will have to use some inline script, and use 
either your own custom slide or somehow modify the standard feedback object. 
I cannot be any more specific than that, I just wanted to point you in a 
direction.  Unless somebody else comes up with something better. 


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From MSpape at FSW.leidenuniv.nl  Wed Apr 30 18:23:56 2008
From: MSpape at FSW.leidenuniv.nl (Michiel Spape)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:23:56 +0200
Subject: Feedback after each trial of two stimuli (dual-task)
Message-ID: <WED.30.APR.2008.202356.0200.>

Hi,
 
If your trialprocedure is something like:
imageDisplay1
imageDisplay2
feedbackDisplay1
 
make it something like:
imageDisplay1
imageDisplay2
inline1
textDisplay1  <-- leave the text blank
 
where inline1 says something like:
if (imageDisplay1.ACC = 1) AND (imageDisplay2.ACC = 1) then textDisplay1.Text = "Well done.\n\nPress space to continue."
 
That should work (I'm not at my desk, though). The two \n's above are translated to newlines.
Cheers,
 
Michiel M. Spapé
Cognitive Psychology Unit
Leiden University

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Van: e-prime at googlegroups.com namens ms
Verzonden: wo 30-4-2008 16:14
Aan: E-Prime
Onderwerp: Feedback after each trial of two stimuli (dual-task)




I would appreciate it if you could help me with the following as what
I am trying to do does not seem to work:
Participants will see a pair of shapes (a circle followed by a square,
and vice versa). Each shape will be presented for a few ms. The square
is the target and can be either blue or green. Participants' task is
to press a Blue or Green button on a buttonbox when the square is blue
or green respectively. I will have 16 trials, so I want 4 with the
circle presented first and the blue square second, 4 with the circle
presented first and the green square second, 4 with the blue square
first and the circle second, and 4 with the green square first and the
circle second.
What I find difficult to do is give participants FEEDBACK after each
trial. If to get feedback I can only specify one input image, how can
feedback be calculated when there are 2 images in this dual task???
I would appreciate any help as I am stuck...




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From baltimore.ben at gmail.com  Tue Apr  1 00:24:30 2008
From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:24:30 -0400
Subject: USB digital pad
In-Reply-To: <2e24b43b0803311648u3c65e1d6r807a6144385af025@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.31.MAR.2008.202430.0400.>

we use these things all the time.  for years we used the gravis game pad
pro, which are sadly no longer available.  now we use the logitech precision
controller.  both controllers require that you download and install a
separate driver to assign keyboard presses to the various buttons, or to
turn unwanted buttons off.  i miss the gravis controllers, or at least their
driver.  it was a little less finicky than the logitech driver, but both
work ok.

ben

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Miguel Jar <migueljar at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, I?m trying to connect a USB digital Pad (like playstation/xbox pads)
> as device in a very simply desing of Eprime, but I cannot make it to work.
> Am I wasting my time or there is any option to make it to run? We usually
> make experiments with children so it?s the perfect tool to work with them
> and I?ve see others programs that can use this kind of device.
>
> Thanks and sorry for my english :)
>
> --
> Miguel L?pez
> Faculty of Psychology
> University of Malaga (Spain)
>
> >
>

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From CadeWarrenCNS at gmail.com  Tue Apr  1 05:12:42 2008
From: CadeWarrenCNS at gmail.com (acadw)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:12:42 -0700
Subject: Using an InLine script for PortOut on multiple ImageDisplays
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In case it wasn't clear, I am trying to avoid using 23 different
InLine scripts, one for each ImageDisplay, and instead place one
InLine at the beginning of the Procedure that uses a variable that can
refer to each ImageDisplay.

On Apr 1, 1:05?am, acadw <CadeWarren... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all, fairly new to E-Prime, though I know most of the basics. I am
> working on an experiment which uses the BART task (balloon analogue
> risk task), which shows a series of balloons that gradually inflate
> bigger and bigger until they explode. There are three types of
> balloons, one of which is set to always explode after one set number
> of expansions (let's say 10 expansions), while the other two are more
> random; for one of these balloons, there are 8 different points at
> which the balloon will explode (let's say the 11th-18th expansions),
> and the final type of balloon will explode at 8 different expansions
> (let's say the 2nd-9th). The actual numbers aren't important, I'm just
> trying to give an idea of the task. Basically, the participant is to
> choose a point at which to stop before the balloon explodes (the task
> measures impulsiveness and is used with drug abusers and such).
>
> The E-Prime is set up with a series of ImageDisplays that is to call
> each picture of a balloon from whatever random list member it pulls
> on. So, if it pulls the balloon with fixed expansion, it will show the
> first picture on ImageDisplay1, second on ImageDisplay2, etc., until
> the user selects a certain balloon size or the balloon explodes. There
> are up to 23 ImageDisplays in this experiment, I believe.
>
> I am converting these experiments from a previous set-up that used
> IFIS (we do not need IFIS, so those settings have been deleted), and I
> am setting it up for fMRI using InLine scripts to dictate that certain
> information to be sent to the TTL output files for each ImageDisplay
> using a kind of Port to transmit particular Attribute information (in
> this case, a fingerpad for the participant to select a certain balloon
> size).
>
> My question is: do I need to place an InLine script for each of these
> ImageDisplays to send its information to the output TTL files upon the
> participant's selection, or is there a way to create some kind of user-
> defined variable in place of the ImageDisplay's name in the InLine
> script? My InLine script looks like this:
>
> TargetImage.OnsetSignalEnabled = true
> TargetImage.OnsetSignalPort = 888
> TargetImage.OnsetSignalData = c.GetAttrib("PortOut")
> TargetImage.OffsetSignalEnabled = true
> TargetImage.OffsetSignalPort = 888
> TargetImage.OffsetSignalData = 0
>
> Basically, the TargetImage can only be one defined object, yet I need
> it to be a variable that can refer to each ImageDisplay we have. Any
> thoughts?
>
> AC
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From: CadeWarrenCNS at gmail.com (acadw)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:05:33 -0700
Subject: Using an InLine script for PortOut on multiple ImageDisplays
Message-ID: <MON.31.MAR.2008.220533.0700.>

Hi all, fairly new to E-Prime, though I know most of the basics. I am
working on an experiment which uses the BART task (balloon analogue
risk task), which shows a series of balloons that gradually inflate
bigger and bigger until they explode. There are three types of
balloons, one of which is set to always explode after one set number
of expansions (let's say 10 expansions), while the other two are more
random; for one of these balloons, there are 8 different points at
which the balloon will explode (let's say the 11th-18th expansions),
and the final type of balloon will explode at 8 different expansions
(let's say the 2nd-9th). The actual numbers aren't important, I'm just
trying to give an idea of the task. Basically, the participant is to
choose a point at which to stop before the balloon explodes (the task
measures impulsiveness and is used with drug abusers and such).

The E-Prime is set up with a series of ImageDisplays that is to call
each picture of a balloon from whatever random list member it pulls
on. So, if it pulls the balloon with fixed expansion, it will show the
first picture on ImageDisplay1, second on ImageDisplay2, etc., until
the user selects a certain balloon size or the balloon explodes. There
are up to 23 ImageDisplays in this experiment, I believe.

I am converting these experiments from a previous set-up that used
IFIS (we do not need IFIS, so those settings have been deleted), and I
am setting it up for fMRI using InLine scripts to dictate that certain
information to be sent to the TTL output files for each ImageDisplay
using a kind of Port to transmit particular Attribute information (in
this case, a fingerpad for the participant to select a certain balloon
size).

My question is: do I need to place an InLine script for each of these
ImageDisplays to send its information to the output TTL files upon the
participant's selection, or is there a way to create some kind of user-
defined variable in place of the ImageDisplay's name in the InLine
script? My InLine script looks like this:

TargetImage.OnsetSignalEnabled = true
TargetImage.OnsetSignalPort = 888
TargetImage.OnsetSignalData = c.GetAttrib("PortOut")
TargetImage.OffsetSignalEnabled = true
TargetImage.OffsetSignalPort = 888
TargetImage.OffsetSignalData = 0

Basically, the TargetImage can only be one defined object, yet I need
it to be a variable that can refer to each ImageDisplay we have. Any
thoughts?

AC
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From petra.schmid at unine.ch  Tue Apr  1 14:37:30 2008
From: petra.schmid at unine.ch (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schmid=2C_Petra=3A_Neuch=E2tel?=)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 07:37:30 -0700
Subject: Randomization
Message-ID: <TUE.1.APR.2008.073730.0700.>

Hi,

I have a randomization problem:

I have 96 pictures that will be presented in four blocks, block A, B,
C, and D. Each of the blocks will have a fixed stimuli set consisting
of 24 stimuli. Like that we will have 4 x  24 stimuli. Block A will
always be the first to be presented followed by the blocks B, C and
D.  Within a block, all 24 stimuli will be presented for the same
time. However, stimuli presentation time (either 100 ms, 2000 ms, 8000
ms or participants' decision) will be randomly assigned to the
different blocks so that all participants will have the same order of
blocks, but the presentation time for the different blocks will differ
between participants. How can I realize that in E-Prime?

Thank you very much for your answers!
Petra
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From cindygooch at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  2 03:18:43 2008
From: cindygooch at yahoo.com (javagirl)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:18:43 -0700
Subject: Back to beginning of block?
Message-ID: <TUE.1.APR.2008.201843.0700.>

Hi all.

I'm trying to make something like a "back" button, so the participant
can go back to the beginning of the current block if they feel they
made a mistake.  I've tried a few ways to do this involving
List.ResetCondtion and List.TerminateCondition but these commands do
not work the way I thought they would.  Any suggestions?

Thanks

Cindy
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From nsparanjape18 at gmail.com  Wed Apr  2 18:43:08 2008
From: nsparanjape18 at gmail.com (Neha)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:43:08 -0700
Subject: Changing x,y co-ordinates (Position) of images in a slide
Message-ID: <WED.2.APR.2008.114308.0700.>

Hi All,

I am developing an e-prime program in which I have a slide object on
which there are 2 images - say imageA and ImageB.The location of these
images on the slide is fixed.So every time the slideobject comes up
ImageA and ImageB would have the same position.

The same slideObject comes up twice in my program and what I need to
implement is that on consecutive slideObject runs the position of
images (ImageA and ImageB) should change.

Whats the best way to implement this?


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From baltimore.ben at gmail.com  Wed Apr  2 19:59:48 2008
From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:59:48 -0400
Subject: Changing x,y co-ordinates (Position) of images in a slide
In-Reply-To: <ce1a85a0-aa55-4d37-8704-e5ab5c546079@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <WED.2.APR.2008.155948.0400.>

in the list object from which the procedure runs that shows these images,
add a nested list on the same row as your procedure appears.  that means,
under the column titled "nested" scroll down to the appropriate row and type
the name of a new list.  let's call it "positions list".  open up positions
list.  create a new column in positions list called "position".  you may
need two columns, depending (one for x-axis, one for y-axis - "posX" and
"posY").  type all the various positions you'd like to use in this(these)
column(s).  then go to your ImageA, and open its preferences.  make the
ImageA object pull its position information from this nested list.  to do
this, type "[posX]" (without the quotation marks) in the X-axis slot, and
type "[posY]" in the Y-axis slot.  that's just one way to do it.  hope that
helps.
ben

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Neha <nsparanjape18 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi All,
>
> I am developing an e-prime program in which I have a slide object on
> which there are 2 images - say imageA and ImageB.The location of these
> images on the slide is fixed.So every time the slideobject comes up
> ImageA and ImageB would have the same position.
>
> The same slideObject comes up twice in my program and what I need to
> implement is that on consecutive slideObject runs the position of
> images (ImageA and ImageB) should change.
>
> Whats the best way to implement this?
>
>
> >
>

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From tiburona at gmail.com  Wed Apr  2 20:50:59 2008
From: tiburona at gmail.com (tiburona)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:50:59 -0700
Subject: Windows Vista
In-Reply-To: <47f147d1.1c99220a.7876.16a3SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <WED.2.APR.2008.135059.0700.>

Thank you lislog and David for telling us all about your experience
with Vista.

On Mar 31, 4:21 pm, David McFarlane <mcfar... at msu.edu> wrote:
> Katie,
>
> At 3/26/2008 06:02 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
>
> >Just to clarify, you would recommend running E-Prime on XP rather than
> >Vista, because it is buggy on Vista?  We are buying new machines and
> >deciding whether to get them loaded with XP or Vista.  It's apparently
> >no longer possible to get the sound card PST says it recommends (here:
> >http://www.pstnet.com/products/e-prime/#require) on an XP machine,
> >only with Vista.
>
> I was away on vacation, luckily others have already filled in, but
> FWIW...  I am reluctant to use the term "buggy" yet.  I only know
> that we get frequent "sound timed out" errors with EP2 under Vista,
> and PST has not yet addressed this problem.  Also, both Vista and EP2
> in general are new and untested, whereas both Win XP and EP1 have
> already proven fairly stable.
>
> As to the sound card, we have never paid any attention to the PST
> recommendations.  At least with EP1, any SoundBlaster-compatible card
> that we had Just Worked.  I expect the same with EP2.  As always, YMMV.
>
> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
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From EDavidse at chdr.nl  Mon Apr  7 08:33:37 2008
From: EDavidse at chdr.nl (Esther Davidse)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 10:33:37 +0200
Subject: Data file output
Message-ID: <MON.7.APR.2008.103337.0200.>

Dear support,

For several years we use e-prime version 1.1. In version 1.1 we were
able to change the scripts by writing directly in the .Ebs file. This
allowed us to automatically change the names of the produced output
files.
Recently we decided to switch from E-prime version 1.1 to E-prime
version 2.0. Especially new functions like video input are features that
might be very useful for us in the future.  
Unfortunately the .ebs files in version 2.0 are encrypted. This means
that we are no longer able to automatically change the names of the
output files. We already struggled to pull the trick by using E-studio
but it seems impossible.
 
We are held by the rules of 'Good Clinical Practice' (GCP).
According to this rules none of the collected data may be lost. It is
crucial for us that data files are saved like this: 

S0001O01M01StroopAPR01_1445.txt
and
S0001O01M01StroopAPR01_1445.ebs

S0001 = variable subject number
O01 = variable occasion number
M01 = variable measurement number
Stroop = name of test
APR01 = current date
1445 = start time of the test.

I really hope that you know a trick to accomplish such ting. Otherwise
I am afraid that the upgrade to version 2.0 is not useful for us.

Sincerely 
Esther Davidse 
Centre for Human Drug Research, Leiden 


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From paulj at psy.uq.edu.au  Mon Apr  7 20:48:20 2008
From: paulj at psy.uq.edu.au (Paul Jackson)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 06:48:20 +1000
Subject: Data file output
In-Reply-To: <47F9F881.17AE.0034.0@chdr.nl>
Message-ID: <TUE.8.APR.2008.064820.1000.>

I think the change to binary files in e-prime 2 was a big mistake. It
was done because some email client/server combinations were mangling the
text files. 

But on many occasions in the last few years I have had an e-prime file
become corrupted and have been able to fix it by messing with the plain
text. Or if it got too mangled you could at least get out some of the
code and paste it into a new project. Additionally binary files don't
work very well in version tracking systems such as CVS (I guess most
EPrime users don't use these anyway). Text files also allow you to
create manipulation scripts which alter the text and as a result change
the EPrime scripts functionality.

For me this is a major step backwards. I would like to see EPrime 2 have
any option to do text and/or binary versions (set the default in
options). Fixing one minor and rare problem which creates other problems
and/or losses in functionality doesn't make sense to me.

Paul

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  
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 Experimental Programmer
 School of Psychology
 University of Queensland
 
 E: paulj at psy.uq.edu.au
 P: 33656950
 W: www.psy.uq.edu.au/~paulj
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Esther Davidse
> Sent: Monday, 7 April 2008 6:34 PM
> To: e-prime at googlegroups.com
> Subject: Data file output
> 
> 
> Dear support,
> 
> For several years we use e-prime version 1.1. In version 1.1 we were
> able to change the scripts by writing directly in the .Ebs file. This
> allowed us to automatically change the names of the produced output
> files.
> Recently we decided to switch from E-prime version 1.1 to E-prime
> version 2.0. Especially new functions like video input are features
> that
> might be very useful for us in the future.
> Unfortunately the .ebs files in version 2.0 are encrypted. This means
> that we are no longer able to automatically change the names of the
> output files. We already struggled to pull the trick by using E-studio
> but it seems impossible.
> 
> We are held by the rules of 'Good Clinical Practice' (GCP).
> According to this rules none of the collected data may be lost. It is
> crucial for us that data files are saved like this:
> 
> S0001O01M01StroopAPR01_1445.txt
> and
> S0001O01M01StroopAPR01_1445.ebs
> 
> S0001 = variable subject number
> O01 = variable occasion number
> M01 = variable measurement number
> Stroop = name of test
> APR01 = current date
> 1445 = start time of the test.
> 
> I really hope that you know a trick to accomplish such ting. Otherwise
> I am afraid that the upgrade to version 2.0 is not useful for us.
> 
> Sincerely
> Esther Davidse
> Centre for Human Drug Research, Leiden
> 
> 
> 

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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu  Tue Apr  8 14:44:51 2008
From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:44:51 -0400
Subject: Image stretch no longer works
Message-ID: <TUE.8.APR.2008.104451.0400.>

In case anybody needs to know, I have just discovered that the 
ImageDisplay "Stretch" option no longer works in some releases of 
E-Prime 2 (e.g., 2.0.1.119).  Stretch does still work for SlideImage 
sub objects.  I have posted this on the PST Forum, I don't know when 
or if PST intends to fix this.

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder 


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From baltimore.ben at gmail.com  Tue Apr  8 14:46:41 2008
From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:46:41 -0400
Subject: Image stretch no longer works
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Message-ID: <TUE.8.APR.2008.104641.0400.>

thanks, david.

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:44 AM, David McFarlane <mcfarla9 at msu.edu> wrote:

>
> In case anybody needs to know, I have just discovered that the
> ImageDisplay "Stretch" option no longer works in some releases of
> E-Prime 2 (e.g., 2.0.1.119).  Stretch does still work for SlideImage
> sub objects.  I have posted this on the PST Forum, I don't know when
> or if PST intends to fix this.
>
> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
>
>
> >
>

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From gomez.julia at gmail.com  Tue Apr  8 15:36:49 2008
From: gomez.julia at gmail.com (Julia Gomez)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:36:49 +0100
Subject: visual search
Message-ID: <TUE.8.APR.2008.163649.0100.>

Hi all,

I am preparing a visual search experiment. Does anyone knows how to change
stimuli position (x, y coordintates) to be different from trial to trial?.
Also, I want to combine different set size of stimuli on the screen randomly
from one trial to the next.

Thanks in advance.

Julia

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From edgarmesquita at hotmail.com  Tue Apr  8 18:06:10 2008
From: edgarmesquita at hotmail.com (edgar mesquita)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:06:10 -0700
Subject: images randomized
Message-ID: <TUE.8.APR.2008.110610.0700.>

Hi there,

I?m trying to do the following experiment: I have 20 images that i
want to be presented randomly with limited time duration (this I know
how to do). The only kind of response (by the subject) that I want is
time based (I will be measuring time). I've read the manuals but
couldn't find anything of use. Can anyone help me
pleaaaaaaaaaaaase..I'd really appreciate it
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From valentinosz at gmail.com  Wed Apr  9 20:25:18 2008
From: valentinosz at gmail.com (Valentinos)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:25:18 -0700
Subject: images randomized
In-Reply-To: <50a89ba7-733c-4c38-856e-986f9b0b8f92@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <WED.9.APR.2008.132518.0700.>

Hello,

I am assuming that for each trial you want to present an image and
then the subject needs to press a button. Are you interested to see
how much time has elapsed from the point the image was presented to
the time the subject has pressed a button? There are many ways to do
this. Just give me some more details about what you want to do, lets
say I were a participant, what instructions would you give me?

Valentinos Zachariou
Carnegie Mellon University
Department of Psychology

On Apr 8, 2:06 pm, edgar mesquita <edgarmesqu... at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I?m trying to do the following experiment: I have 20 images that i
> want to be presented randomly with limited time duration (this I know
> how to do). The only kind of response (by the subject) that I want is
> time based (I will be measuring time). I've read the manuals but
> couldn't find anything of use. Can anyone help me
> pleaaaaaaaaaaaase..I'd really appreciate it
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From baltimore.ben at gmail.com  Wed Apr  9 20:45:14 2008
From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:45:14 -0400
Subject: images randomized
In-Reply-To: <50a89ba7-733c-4c38-856e-986f9b0b8f92@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <WED.9.APR.2008.164514.0400.>

start a new eprime file.drag a list item to the top of your.  if you have 20
images, make sure there are 20 rows in your list.  now add a column to your
list.  instead of "Attribute1" call it something meaningful, like
"pictures".  on each of the 20 rows type the name of one of your picture
files.  be sure to include ".bmp" on the end of each filename.  also on
every row, under the "Procedure" column, type "ShowPicsProcedure" and when
it asks if you want to create this procedure say yes.  put that same
procedure on each row of the list.  set the list to Random (without
replacement).
now go to your ShowPicsProcedure timeline, and add an ImageDisplay object,
"ImageDisplay1".  in the properties for this object, select one of your
image files.  doesn't matter which image file you select, because we're
going to write a little code to switch the image each time a new trial runs.
 also in the properties for ImageDisplay1 allow it to accept keyboard
responses, and tell it to terminate when a response is received.  now drag
an Inline object, "Inline1" onto the procedure timeline above/before your
ImageDisplay1 object.  open up Inline1 and type:
ImageDisplay1.Filename = c.GetAttrib("pictures")
ImageDisplay1.Load

that should pretty much do it.


On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:06 PM, edgar mesquita <edgarmesquita at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Hi there,
>
> I?m trying to do the following experiment: I have 20 images that i
> want to be presented randomly with limited time duration (this I know
> how to do). The only kind of response (by the subject) that I want is
> time based (I will be measuring time). I've read the manuals but
> couldn't find anything of use. Can anyone help me
> pleaaaaaaaaaaaase..I'd really appreciate it
> >
>

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From valentinosz at gmail.com  Wed Apr  9 20:34:54 2008
From: valentinosz at gmail.com (Valentinos)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:34:54 -0700
Subject: visual search
In-Reply-To: <f3335a160804080836vf4bb701me0a8aa635a8b18fe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.9.APR.2008.133454.0700.>

Hello,

Step 1

Figure out the resolution you will be displaying the experiment at.

Step 2

Using a slide object, on the properties of the background, set the
Width and the Height to the resolution you will be displaying the
experiment at

Step 3

Add your stimuli, as text, image, whatever. Under their properties of
the stimulus object and on the frame tab (where it will say position
X, Y) put something like [positionX] for X and [PositionY] for Y.

Step 4 in your block list (the one that controls how the each trial
will be presented add to columns that are labeled positionX and
positionY. Whatever you put under those columns in terms of pixel
position (lets say the resolution is 1024x768 then the x,y coordinates
of the center will be 512,384). This way for each trial the X and Y
position of the stimulus in the slide object will be determined by
what you have in those two columns in the blocklist.

I hope this helps,

Valentinos Zachariou
Carnegie Mellon University
Department of Psychology

On Apr 8, 11:36 am, "Julia Gomez" <gomez.ju... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am preparing a visual search experiment. Does anyone knows how to change
> stimuli position (x, y coordintates) to be different from trial to trial?.
> Also, I want to combine different set size of stimuli on the screen randomly
> from one trial to the next.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Julia
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From josephjaywilliams at gmail.com  Thu Apr 10 03:39:54 2008
From: josephjaywilliams at gmail.com (Joseph Williams)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 20:39:54 -0700
Subject: Displaying a countdown timer for participants
In-Reply-To: <3345e4a50803180651k42aa062dv6b7b0a6fd61dbb7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.9.APR.2008.203954.0700.>

Hi Ben,

Thanks for the advice. I'm going to try to implement this soon, so I'll let
you know how it works out.

Joseph

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 6:51 AM, ben robinson <baltimore.ben at gmail.com>
wrote:

> you could try setting your slide's duration to zero (with a response
> window of however many seconds you need).
> then in an inline immediately after the slide is presented...
> Do
>    Select Case SlideX.TimeLimit - (Clock.Read - SlideX.OnsetTime)
>       Case 9995 to 10005
>          c.SetAttribAtSource "Remaining", 10
>       Case 8885 to 9005
>          c.SetAttribAtSource "Remaining", 9
>       Case...
>       Case 995 to 1005
>          c.SetAttribAtSource "Remaining", 1
>    End Select
> Loop While Clock.Read - SlideX.OnsetTime < SlideX.TimeLimit
>
> this is just a guess.  let me know if it works.
>
> ben
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Joseph Williams <
> josephjaywilliams at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, I'd like to be able to display how much time participants have left
> > to make a response- e.g. a textobject on a slide that appears when there are
> > 10 seconds left, and counts down from 10 to 0. Does anyone have any ideas on
> > how to implement this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joseph
> >
> >
>
> >
>

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From josephjaywilliams at gmail.com  Thu Apr 10 03:47:24 2008
From: josephjaywilliams at gmail.com (Joseph Williams)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 20:47:24 -0700
Subject: Script for cleaning up participants' typed responses
Message-ID: <WED.9.APR.2008.204724.0700.>

I've started running several experiments in which I record people's typed
responses: using a slide object, I show a text box on the slide, and "echo"
what they're typing into it. Now I'm trying to look at the responses, but
the problem is that E-prime gives me these responses as literal translations
of what's been typed: e.g.
{SHIFT}The{SPACE}object{SPACE}was{SPACE}of{SPACE}type{SPACE}{SHIFT}G{.}{DOWNARROW}

I'm not sure if this has been solved in E-prime 2.0, but I wanted to find
out if anyone had already written a script for cleaning up this kind of
response (that goes through and gets rid of the spaces,shifts,etc) or if
there was a better way to get this information out of the e-data file (or
even to change how I'm encoding it while the program is running).

Thanks,

Joseph

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From edgarmesquita at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 10 16:15:23 2008
From: edgarmesquita at hotmail.com (Edgar Mesquita)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:15:23 +0000
Subject: images randomized
In-Reply-To: <3345e4a50804091345l52055b44wb2c4b55bd061142d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.10.APR.2008.161523.0000.>


Hi,
Thanks a lot. It's perfect.
 
My best regards
 
Edgar


Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:45:14 -0400From: baltimore.ben at gmail.comTo: e-prime at googlegroups.comSubject: Re: images randomizedstart a new eprime file. 
drag a list item to the top of your.  if you have 20 images, make sure there are 20 rows in your list.  now add a column to your list.  instead of "Attribute1" call it something meaningful, like "pictures".  on each of the 20 rows type the name of one of your picture files.  be sure to include ".bmp" on the end of each filename.  also on every row, under the "Procedure" column, type "ShowPicsProcedure" and when it asks if you want to create this procedure say yes.  put that same procedure on each row of the list.  set the list to Random (without replacement).
now go to your ShowPicsProcedure timeline, and add an ImageDisplay object, "ImageDisplay1".  in the properties for this object, select one of your image files.  doesn't matter which image file you select, because we're going to write a little code to switch the image each time a new trial runs.  also in the properties for ImageDisplay1 allow it to accept keyboard responses, and tell it to terminate when a response is received.  now drag an Inline object, "Inline1" onto the procedure timeline above/before your ImageDisplay1 object.  open up Inline1 and type:
ImageDisplay1.Filename = c.GetAttrib("pictures")
ImageDisplay1.Load

that should pretty much do it.

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:06 PM, edgar mesquita <edgarmesquita at hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi there,I?m trying to do the following experiment: I have 20 images that iwant to be presented randomly with limited time duration (this I knowhow to do). The only kind of response (by the subject) that I want istime based (I will be measuring time). I've read the manuals butcouldn't find anything of use. Can anyone help mepleaaaaaaaaaaaase..I'd really appreciate it_________________________________________________________________
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From edgarmesquita at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 10 16:13:51 2008
From: edgarmesquita at hotmail.com (Edgar Mesquita)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:13:51 +0000
Subject: images randomized
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 Hi,
 
Yesterday I finally did it :) I didn't know how to put embbeded and to write the name.bmp in the list. Many Thanks for the response.
 
My best regards
 
Edgar
> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:25:18 -0700> Subject: Re: images randomized> From: valentinosz at gmail.com> To: e-prime at googlegroups.com> > > Hello,> > I am assuming that for each trial you want to present an image and> then the subject needs to press a button. Are you interested to see> how much time has elapsed from the point the image was presented to> the time the subject has pressed a button? There are many ways to do> this. Just give me some more details about what you want to do, lets> say I were a participant, what instructions would you give me?> > Valentinos Zachariou> Carnegie Mellon University> Department of Psychology> > On Apr 8, 2:06 pm, edgar mesquita <edgarmesqu... at hotmail.com> wrote:> > Hi there,> >> > I?m trying to do the following experiment: I have 20 images that i> > want to be presented randomly with limited time duration (this I know> > how to do). The only kind of response (by the subject) that I want is> > time based (I will be measuring time). I've read the manuals but> > couldn't find anything of use. Can anyone help me> > pleaaaaaaaaaaaase..I'd really appreciate it> _________________________________________________________________
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From BenKapp at gmail.com  Sat Apr 12 13:54:30 2008
From: BenKapp at gmail.com (BenKapp at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 06:54:30 -0700
Subject: Script for cleaning up participants' typed responses
In-Reply-To: <121d07f40804092047m5c92c936y5d804aa6404c143@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.12.APR.2008.065430.0700.>

Joseph,

I'm curious how you created the response box which echo's users input.

Thanks,
Ben

On Apr 9, 11:47 pm, "Joseph Williams" <josephjaywilli... at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I've started running several experiments in which I record people's typed
> responses: using a slide object, I show a text box on the slide, and "echo"
> what they're typing into it. Now I'm trying to look at the responses, but
> the problem is that E-prime gives me these responses as literal translations
> of what's been typed: e.g.
> {SHIFT}The{SPACE}object{SPACE}was{SPACE}of{SPACE}type{SPACE}{SHIFT}G{.}{DOWNARROW}
>
> I'm not sure if this has been solved in E-prime 2.0, but I wanted to find
> out if anyone had already written a script for cleaning up this kind of
> response (that goes through and gets rid of the spaces,shifts,etc) or if
> there was a better way to get this information out of the e-data file (or
> even to change how I'm encoding it while the program is running).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joseph
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From estellaliu at gmail.com  Sun Apr 13 22:15:39 2008
From: estellaliu at gmail.com (estella)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:15:39 -0700
Subject: Start running from a certain block
Message-ID: <SUN.13.APR.2008.151539.0700.>

Hello everyone!

I'm trying to configure my first eprime experiment script. I have 7
blocks in my experiment, and they are presented in fixed sequential
order to the participants. I'm hoping to make the script so that I can
manually tell eprime from which block to start the experiment (and
finish the rest of the blocks). Any suggestion as to which direction I
can try is greatly appreciated!
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From cblais at berkeley.edu  Mon Apr 14 04:50:34 2008
From: cblais at berkeley.edu (cblais at berkeley.edu)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:50:34 -0700
Subject: Start running from a certain block
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Message-ID: <SUN.13.APR.2008.215034.0700.>

1. Configure E-Prime to get a variable from the experimenter called "startblock".

2. Insert an InLine before each list (you'll need to have each block represented in its own list)
that says
if c.getAttrib("startblock") = 2 then
   goto StartBlock2
end if

3. Insert a Flag object called StartBlock1 between block 1 and block 2/

4. Repeat for each list.

I've done this before for an fMRI experiment. If you can't figure it out I can send you a copy of
the script.


> Hello everyone!
>
> I'm trying to configure my first eprime experiment script. I have 7
> blocks in my experiment, and they are presented in fixed sequential
> order to the participants. I'm hoping to make the script so that I can
> manually tell eprime from which block to start the experiment (and
> finish the rest of the blocks). Any suggestion as to which direction I
> can try is greatly appreciated!
> >
>



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From mplenhart at gmail.com  Wed Apr 16 17:10:01 2008
From: mplenhart at gmail.com (Matt Lenhart)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:10:01 -0700
Subject: Script for cleaning up participants' typed responses
In-Reply-To: <121d07f40804092047m5c92c936y5d804aa6404c143@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.16.APR.2008.101001.0700.>

Hi Joseph,

I have added a sample experiment to the Files section of this group
(TextString.es). This sample echoes subject responses and then "cleans
up" the special characters that are used by parsing the string. You
can look through the comments in the script to see how this parsing is
done. The sample only handles a few cases (e.g., Shift, period, etc).
However, you can modify the script to handle many different cases.

Please let me know if you have any questions after looking at the
sample.

Sincerely,
Matt Lenhart
PST Technical Consultant
http://pstnet.com
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From mplenhart at gmail.com  Wed Apr 16 17:31:13 2008
From: mplenhart at gmail.com (Matt Lenhart)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:31:13 -0700
Subject: Image stretch no longer works
In-Reply-To: <47fb84e4.2ee1220a.13eb.734bSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <WED.16.APR.2008.103113.0700.>

Hello,

Just as an update, we have entered this bug into our formal tracking
system, and it will be fixed (along with a few other bugs) in the next
public release of E-Prime 2.0, which should be available within the
next week (you will be able to download it from our web support site).

Sincerely,
Matt Lenhart
PST Technical Consultant
http://pstnet.com
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From mplenhart at gmail.com  Wed Apr 16 17:37:44 2008
From: mplenhart at gmail.com (Matt Lenhart)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:37:44 -0700
Subject: Displaying a countdown timer for participants
In-Reply-To: <121d07f40804092039u3588ee50ya78f906f0610604a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.16.APR.2008.103744.0700.>

Hello,

Ben's advice is very good and is the method we would recommend. I have
added our formal sample (CountDownClock.es) to the Files section of
this group for reference. If you have any questions, please let me
know.

Sincerely,
Matt Lenhart
PST Technical Consultant
http://pstnet.com
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From maheen.adamson at gmail.com  Sat Apr 19 03:21:59 2008
From: maheen.adamson at gmail.com (MMA)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:21:59 -0700
Subject: E prime 2.0 and windows x64
Message-ID: <FRI.18.APR.2008.202159.0700.>

Hello
new in this group. Quick question:
can I run Eprime 2.0 on a windows x64 machine? I am getting this error
after I have installed directx and microsoft framework for x64:
Run-time Error (Line 2488) 10051: An error occurred while attempting
to open the device

Device Name: Sound
Error: 0x00000385
Message: 'Unable to create the DirectX object: 0x88780078'

Please let me know. I have had major issues wiht runnin gon a m70
dell. I run an fmri expt with movies displayed randomly (each is about
45 sec long). expt is about 15 mins.

thank you
MMA
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From jan.p.zeller at mail.uni-oldenburg.de  Tue Apr 22 12:37:51 2008
From: jan.p.zeller at mail.uni-oldenburg.de (berserker-ulf)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:37:51 -0700
Subject: Sending triggers for targets and responses from E-prime
Message-ID: <TUE.22.APR.2008.053751.0700.>

Hi!

I?m new to E-prime, and I hope somebody can help me with this problem:
I tried to run an experiment where three different tones are used as
targets. Every time a tone is emitted, I want E-prime to send a
trigger to another computer. I used the following script, but it only
sends a trigger the first time the tone appears and not in the
following instances:

Dim someCode as integer
someCode = CInt (c.GetAttrib ("triggercode"))
Ton.OnsetSignalEnabled = True
Ton.OnsetSignalPort = &H378
Ton.OnsetSignalData = someCode
Ton.OffsetSignalEnabled = True
Ton.OffsetSignalPort = &H378
Ton.OffsetSignalData = someCode

My second question: How can I send triggers for responses (in this
experiment it?s mouse button clicks)?

Thanks!

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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu  Tue Apr 22 13:56:03 2008
From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:56:03 -0400
Subject: Sending triggers for targets and responses from E-prime
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Message-ID: <TUE.22.APR.2008.095603.0400.>

I have never used the onset & offset signals, but I will hazard a 
guess that your offset signal must be different from your onset 
signal, otherwise the signal never changes once it is set.  Here is 
an example change in your code:

Dim trigOnCode as integer
Dim trigOffCode as integer
trigOnCode = CInt (c.GetAttrib ("TriggerOnCode"))
trigOffCode = CInt (c.GetAttrib ("triggerOffCode"))
Ton.OnsetSignalEnabled = True
Ton.OnsetSignalPort = &H378
Ton.OnsetSignalData = trigOnCode
Ton.OffsetSignalEnabled = True
Ton.OffsetSignalPort = &H378
Ton.OffsetSignalData = trigOffCode

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder


At 4/22/2008 08:37 AM Tuesday, you wrote:
>I tried to run an experiment where three different tones are used as
>targets. Every time a tone is emitted, I want E-prime to send a
>trigger to another computer. I used the following script, but it only
>sends a trigger the first time the tone appears and not in the
>following instances:
>
>Dim someCode as integer
>someCode = CInt (c.GetAttrib ("triggercode"))
>Ton.OnsetSignalEnabled = True
>Ton.OnsetSignalPort = &H378
>Ton.OnsetSignalData = someCode
>Ton.OffsetSignalEnabled = True
>Ton.OffsetSignalPort = &H378
>Ton.OffsetSignalData = someCode


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From raul.oyuela at gmail.com  Tue Apr 22 21:24:05 2008
From: raul.oyuela at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ra=FAl_Oyuela_Vargas?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:24:05 -0500
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=BFSRBOX?= doesn't have a USB cable?
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Message-ID: <TUE.22.APR.2008.162405.0500.>

Hi everybody: 

I have a problem with the serial box response and I hope you can help me.

First of all, the SRBOX doesn't have a USB cable... Nowadays all computers
onlu use USB.... So, for the SRBOX I had to buy an USB/Serial conversor.
Don't you have this cable available for news computers?

Another problem is, the SRBOX is not responding. I don?t know if the problem
is in the USB/Serial Conversor. The error message is:

Device name: SRBOX

Error: 0x00002329

Message: "unable to open the SRBOX".

I really need your help because the study can't continue without it.

Ra?l Oyuela Vargas, M.Phil. 
Director Laboratorio de Psicolog?a, PUJ 
Carrera 5 N. 39-00 Edificio Manuel Brice?o 
Tel 3208320 Ext. 5713 
Fax 3208320 Ext. 5717

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From josephjaywilliams at gmail.com  Wed Apr 23 00:24:24 2008
From: josephjaywilliams at gmail.com (Joseph Williams)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:24:24 -0700
Subject: Playing multiple videos at once
Message-ID: <TUE.22.APR.2008.172424.0700.>

I haven't had a chance to use E-prime 2.0 yet, and I wanted to ask a
question about it: I know you can play movies in it, but is it possible to
play more than one movie at once? For example, to play four movies at once,
one in each corner of the screen? Also, I was curious if there is any
documentation available on what the limits on playing movies are: how long
they can be, what size, what particular formats.

Thanks,

Joseph

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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu  Wed Apr 23 00:30:06 2008
From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David K McFarlane)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:30:06 -0400
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?=EF=BF=BDSRBOX?= doesn't have a USB cable?
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Ra?l, 

My first guess is that the COM setting (COM1, COM2, etc.) on your USB to 
serial converter does not match the COM setting of your E-Prime experiment.  
First, check the COM setting of your converter -- I can't tell you how to do 
that, but your IT staff should be able to help you there.  Your converter 
should have come with software to let you change its settings.  Set it to 
use COM1 if you can, otherwise use anything from COM2 to COM4 (E-Prime 
cannot see anything above COM4). 

Then, in your E-Prime experiment program, open the Experiment properties 
(e.g., double-click on the Experiment object).  Go to the Devices tab (I'm 
doing this from memory, so I hope I get this right or someone else corrects 
me).  Open the SRBox object (I assume your experiment has one, otherwise you 
will have to add it).  Note the setting for COM port.  Make sure that it is 
set to the same port as your USB to serial converter.  Note that the E-Prime 
uses COM1 by default, so if you can set your converter to COM1 it should 
already work with E-Prime.  If you do need to change the SRBox COM setting 
to match your converter, note that you will have to do this for *each* 
experiment program, as this setting is stored separately for each program.  
Finally, if you move the experiment between computers you might have to 
change the SRBox COM setting to match each computer.  As you can see, life 
gets a lot easier if you can make sure that your SRBox can plug into 
something that is already assigned as COM1! 

Oh, you might also have to check other settings on your USB to serial 
converter, e.g., baud rate, stop bits, data bits, etc. 

BTW, if it were me, if at all possible I would install a real serial port 
adapter into a free slot instead of using a USB to serial converter.  The 
converter may work fine, but I just feel better with a real card.  Just my 
unsolicited $0.02. 

 -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder 


> I have a problem with the serial box response and I hope you can help me. 
> 
> First of all, the SRBOX doesn't have a USB cable... Nowadays all computers
> onlu use USB.... So, for the SRBOX I had to buy an USB/Serial conversor.
> Don't you have this cable available for news computers? 
> 
> Another problem is, the SRBOX is not responding. I don?t know if the problem
> is in the USB/Serial Conversor. The error message is: 
> 
> Device name: SRBOX 
> 
> Error: 0x00002329 
> 
> Message: "unable to open the SRBOX". 
> 
> I really need your help because the study can't continue without it. 
> 
> Ra?l Oyuela Vargas, M.Phil. 
> Director Laboratorio de Psicolog?a, PUJ 
> Carrera 5 N. 39-00 Edificio Manuel Brice?o 
> Tel 3208320 Ext. 5713 
> Fax 3208320 Ext. 5717



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From gomez.julia at gmail.com  Thu Apr 24 00:12:16 2008
From: gomez.julia at gmail.com (Julia Gomez)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:12:16 +0100
Subject: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response
Message-ID: <THU.24.APR.2008.011216.0100.>

Hi everyone,

Could anyone help with the following script? I am doing a interrupted visual
search task. I am presenting a screen with the stimuli array for the search
task followed by another screen with a blank screen. Once a trial has
started I would like this trial to repeat (i.e stimuli array and white
screen over and over) until a maximum of 16 times or  until the participant
responds. I created the following script but is giving me an error. I am not
familiar writing scripts in eprime.

Dim count as string

count=0

While count<17 ' *I need to repeat a trial up to 16 times or until response*
   If StimuliArray.RESP = " " Then ' *I am not sure how to tell eprime if
there is no response. *
       Goto ShowStimAgain ' *this is a label that I inserted after the
fixation cross*
   End If
count = count +1
End

Any help would be very appreciated.

Thanks

Julia G?mez

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From keidel at gmail.com  Thu Apr 24 01:10:30 2008
From: keidel at gmail.com (James Keidel)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:10:30 +0100
Subject: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response
In-Reply-To: <f3335a160804231712n6ec32876v41157ec63a2b3d5b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.24.APR.2008.021030.0100.>

hey

I'm not sure exactly how to fix the whole script, but for sure you
need to declare the counter as an integer, not a string.  you can't
increment a string that way.  also, eprime likes variable references
to have a type signifier, so you want to say count% = count% + 1  bc %
means integer.  in addition, although it is rather inelegant, you
could just have a single TrialProc with 16 alternating stim arrays and
blanks, where each one had a max duration but the stim arrays also
accepted input and had an end action which jumped to your label.

JK

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Julia Gomez <gomez.julia at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Could anyone help with the following script? I am doing a interrupted visual
> search task. I am presenting a screen with the stimuli array for the search
> task followed by another screen with a blank screen. Once a trial has
> started I would like this trial to repeat (i.e stimuli array and white
> screen over and over) until a maximum of 16 times or  until the participant
> responds. I created the following script but is giving me an error. I am not
> familiar writing scripts in eprime.
>
> Dim count as string
>
> count=0
>
> While count<17 ' I need to repeat a trial up to 16 times or until response
>    If StimuliArray.RESP = " " Then ' I am not sure how to tell eprime if
> there is no response.
>        Goto ShowStimAgain ' this is a label that I inserted after the
> fixation cross
>    End If
> count = count +1
> End
>
> Any help would be very appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Julia G?mez
>
>  >
>

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From MSpape at FSW.leidenuniv.nl  Thu Apr 24 01:27:00 2008
From: MSpape at FSW.leidenuniv.nl (Michiel Spape)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:27:00 +0200
Subject: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response
Message-ID: <THU.24.APR.2008.032700.0200.>

Hi Julia,
 
How about this? A bit late, so maybe I'm making a couple of errors myself, but I hope it helps.
 
Dim count as string  ' this should be in the user script, else the count is reset
 
count=0 ' this should be at the start of the trial, else it starts at 0 every time

'after the StimuliArray... I suppose this is a textDisplay or something?:
if (StimuliArray.Resp = "") AND (count < 17) then   'if no response is given and the number of that happened (count) is smaller than 17
   count = count + 1   'then continue counting
   goto ShowStimAgain   'and go back AFTER counting (otherwise it never counts because it went to the label before that)
   end if  'and to end a while statement, I think e-prime expects you to use WEnd; 
 
Cheers,
 
Michiel Spap?
 
 

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Aan: e-prime at googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response


Hi everyone,

Could anyone help with the following script? I am doing a interrupted visual search task. I am presenting a screen with the stimuli array for the search task followed by another screen with a blank screen. Once a trial has started I would like this trial to repeat (i.e stimuli array and white screen over and over) until a maximum of 16 times or  until the participant responds. I created the following script but is giving me an error. I am not familiar writing scripts in eprime.

Dim count as string 
 
count=0 

While count<17 ' I need to repeat a trial up to 16 times or until response
   If StimuliArray.RESP = " " Then ' I am not sure how to tell eprime if there is no response. 
       Goto ShowStimAgain ' this is a label that I inserted after the fixation cross
   End If 
count = count +1 
End 

Any help would be very appreciated. 

Thanks

Julia G?mez




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From MSpape at FSW.leidenuniv.nl  Thu Apr 24 07:16:12 2008
From: MSpape at FSW.leidenuniv.nl (Michiel Spape)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:16:12 +0200
Subject: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response
Message-ID: <THU.24.APR.2008.091612.0200.>

Oh yes, there's something I forgot! Though I never use type signifiers, certainly not if the variable is already declared as an integer (instead of, say, a variant).
Cheers,
Mich
 
So:

Dim count as integer  ' this should be in the user script, else the count is reset
 
count=0 ' this should be at the start of the trial, else it starts at 0 every time


'after the StimuliArray... I suppose this is a textDisplay or something?:

if (StimuliArray.Resp = "") AND (count < 17) then   'if no response is given and the number of that happened (count) is smaller than 17

   count = count + 1   'then continue counting

   goto ShowStimAgain   'and go back AFTER counting (otherwise it never counts because it went to the label before that)

   end if  'and to end a while statement, I think e-prime expects you to use WEnd; 

 

 
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Verzonden: do 24-4-2008 3:10
Aan: e-prime at googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response




hey

I'm not sure exactly how to fix the whole script, but for sure you
need to declare the counter as an integer, not a string.  you can't
increment a string that way.  also, eprime likes variable references
to have a type signifier, so you want to say count% = count% + 1  bc %
means integer.  

 


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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu  Thu Apr 24 19:00:03 2008
From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:00:03 -0400
Subject: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response
In-Reply-To: <f3335a160804231712n6ec32876v41157ec63a2b3d5b@mail.gmail.co m>
Message-ID: <THU.24.APR.2008.150003.0400.>

Julia,

And here's another way to do it, without using a 
counter, and making use of functionality built in to E-Prime objects.

First, I assume that your search task, with 
stimulus array and blank screen, is in a 
Proc.  Let's call that PresentationProc.

Now, put PresentationProc in a list object, let's 
call that PresentationList.  So PresentationList 
has just one row with your PresentationProc in 
it, and your structure looks something like this:

PresentationList
     PresentationProc
         StimArray
         BlankScreen
         TrialFinishScript

Now comes the fun.  To make PresentationProc 
repeat, say, 16 times, you can do one of two 
things in the PresentationList:  (1) Give your 
PresentationProc row a weight of 16 (most users 
will find this the more natural way), or  (2) in 
the properties page of the PresentationList, go 
to the Reset/Exit tab and set it to exit after 16 cycles (my preferred method).

OK, now your trial will last for 16 
presentations.  How to get it to stop after a 
response?  You just need one line of script in TrialFinishScript, e.g.,

If Not(StimArray.InputMasks.IsPending()) Then PresentationList.Terminate

That's it.  The .Terminate will make the list exit early.

Now, a bit more to the lesson.  There are several 
ways for script to detect a response.  Here are 
four tests that return True if a response has occured to Stim:
- If Not(Stim.InputMasks.IsPending()) Then ...
- If Stim.RT <> 0 Then ...
- If Stim.RTTime <> 0 Then ...
- If Stim.RESP <> "" Then ...

Note that .IsPending() returns False if either it 
has received a response or the response time 
limit has passed, so it only works while waiting 
for a response (i.e., it will not work afterwards 
to tell whether or not a response was received 
earlier).  Other than that, which test you use is largely a matter of taste.

For more information on these, please see the 
List Object and InputMask Object topics in the E-Basic online help.

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder


At 4/23/2008 08:12 PM Wednesday, Julia Gomez wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
>Could anyone help with the following script? I 
>am doing a interrupted visual search task. I am 
>presenting a screen with the stimuli array for 
>the search task followed by another screen with 
>a blank screen. Once a trial has started I would 
>like this trial to repeat (i.e stimuli array and 
>white screen over and over) until a maximum of 
>16 times or  until the participant responds. I 
>created the following script but is giving me an 
>error. I am not familiar writing scripts in eprime.
>
>Dim count as string
>
>count=0
>
>While count<17 ' I need to repeat a trial up to 16 times or until response
>    If StimuliArray.RESP = " " Then ' I am not 
> sure how to tell eprime if there is no response.
>        Goto ShowStimAgain ' this is a label 
> that I inserted after the fixation cross
>    End If
>count = count +1
>End
>
>Any help would be very appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>Julia G?mez


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From matilda78 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 25 20:33:07 2008
From: matilda78 at gmail.com (Stefania)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:33:07 -0700
Subject: nested to nested...
Message-ID: <FRI.25.APR.2008.133307.0700.>

Hi folks,
I was wandering if it is possible to refer to a nested list from
another nested list (yeah I know... it is a kludge, I am working on a
script which is supposed to be elegant but it takes time...). So,
stimuli are picked up from an attribute [Letter] that is located on a
nested list "TargetList". Some levels of the "Letter" attribute are
referring to another attribute [LetterR] that is located on the nested
list "RandomLetterList". A run-time error occurred: Factor Error-989.
Cannot resolve [LetterR] in this context...
Any suggestion would be appreciated.

Best,
Stefania


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From carlf4567 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 25 20:53:29 2008
From: carlf4567 at gmail.com (CarlF)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:53:29 -0700
Subject: Displaying a countdown timer for participants
In-Reply-To: <17becff4-f878-4796-ba2a-8c23908a2fdf@24g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.25.APR.2008.135329.0700.>

Hi Matt -

Thanks for making the very helpful example available for download.

I do have a further question.

If the countdown timer in CountDownClock.es were not text, but
rather were a series of images to be presented through the services
of a SlideImage object, can I do a Load before the Draw inside the
countdown loop, without the Load of the next image glitching the
display of the image that was Draw(n) in the previous iteration
of the loop?

Suppose I put a first Load outside the loop, and then have the in-loop
order of operations be to Draw, and then to Load the next image.
Does this give me fairly fine grained control of when images
are displayed?  Is there any time auditing info that will reliably
tell
me when the most recent Draw of any SlideStim child object occurred,
so that I can track time stolen by the o/s?

Lastly, assuming that Draw and Load are atomic in the way that
I'm hoping: Suppose that I'm drawing a succession of large images
to a screen region--for purposes of discussion, let's say its a
pre-animated full-screen countdown timer running at 30 frames
a second--that may not reliably roll off of disk fast enough.  Is
there a way I can buffer these images outside the countdown
loop, and then Load them from the in-memory buffer to the
SlideImage object, so that they are available well before I get
back around to the Draw operation?

Thanks so much for your help.

Cheers,

Carl F.


On Apr 16, 12:37 pm, Matt Lenhart <mplenh... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Ben's advice is very good and is the method we would recommend. I have
> added our formal sample (CountDownClock.es) to the Files section of
> this group for reference. If you have any questions, please let me
> know.
>
> Sincerely,
> Matt Lenhart
> PST Technical Consultanthttp://pstnet.com
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From yuvharpaz at gmail.com  Sun Apr 27 19:08:34 2008
From: yuvharpaz at gmail.com (uv)
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:08:34 -0700
Subject: getting started with script
Message-ID: <SUN.27.APR.2008.120834.0700.>

hi there
I have built quite a few experiments using the e-prime studio, and I
have some basic understanding in writing script (with matlab at
least). is there a file available with basic information regarding how
to define integers, how to jump backward or forward in the experiment
procedure etc?
thanks
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From gomez.julia at gmail.com  Sun Apr 27 19:53:38 2008
From: gomez.julia at gmail.com (Julia Gomez)
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:53:38 +0100
Subject: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response
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Dear all,

Thank you very much for you help! I have the eprime programe almost done!
(thanks to your advices!).

I came across with a couple of more problems:

(1) Measuring RT from the first display.

As I as previously explained, I present a visual array of stimuli followed
by a blank screen upto 16 times or until response (stimArray+Blank,
stimArray+Blank, and so on). The RT measure I get is just from the last
stimArray+Blank ( the one you respond to, instead of being from the first
one). I would like to have a measure of the RT from the first display until
response (whether is one or 16 displays). Is there a way to do this?

(2) Set one stimuli from the distractor list to be target for just that
session.

I have a set of targets in a list and the distractors in a separate nested
lists. For the baseline condition, I would be ideal if I could call randomly
one of the distractors and set it to be one of the targets (for only that
session and in the following session it will become again a distractor, and,
of course, in that session is never seen as a distractor).


Any help is very appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Julia


2008/4/24 David McFarlane <mcfarla9 at msu.edu>:

>
> Julia,
>
> And here's another way to do it, without using a
> counter, and making use of functionality built in to E-Prime objects.
>
> First, I assume that your search task, with
> stimulus array and blank screen, is in a
> Proc.  Let's call that PresentationProc.
>
> Now, put PresentationProc in a list object, let's
> call that PresentationList.  So PresentationList
> has just one row with your PresentationProc in
> it, and your structure looks something like this:
>
> PresentationList
>     PresentationProc
>         StimArray
>         BlankScreen
>         TrialFinishScript
>
> Now comes the fun.  To make PresentationProc
> repeat, say, 16 times, you can do one of two
> things in the PresentationList:  (1) Give your
> PresentationProc row a weight of 16 (most users
> will find this the more natural way), or  (2) in
> the properties page of the PresentationList, go
> to the Reset/Exit tab and set it to exit after 16 cycles (my preferred
> method).
>
> OK, now your trial will last for 16
> presentations.  How to get it to stop after a
> response?  You just need one line of script in TrialFinishScript, e.g.,
>
> If Not(StimArray.InputMasks.IsPending()) Then PresentationList.Terminate
>
> That's it.  The .Terminate will make the list exit early.
>
> Now, a bit more to the lesson.  There are several
> ways for script to detect a response.  Here are
> four tests that return True if a response has occured to Stim:
> - If Not(Stim.InputMasks.IsPending()) Then ...
> - If Stim.RT <> 0 Then ...
> - If Stim.RTTime <> 0 Then ...
> - If Stim.RESP <> "" Then ...
>
> Note that .IsPending() returns False if either it
> has received a response or the response time
> limit has passed, so it only works while waiting
> for a response (i.e., it will not work afterwards
> to tell whether or not a response was received
> earlier).  Other than that, which test you use is largely a matter of
> taste.
>
> For more information on these, please see the
> List Object and InputMask Object topics in the E-Basic online help.
>
> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
>
>
> At 4/23/2008 08:12 PM Wednesday, Julia Gomez wrote:
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >Could anyone help with the following script? I
> >am doing a interrupted visual search task. I am
> >presenting a screen with the stimuli array for
> >the search task followed by another screen with
> >a blank screen. Once a trial has started I would
> >like this trial to repeat (i.e stimuli array and
> >white screen over and over) until a maximum of
> >16 times or  until the participant responds. I
> >created the following script but is giving me an
> >error. I am not familiar writing scripts in eprime.
> >
> >Dim count as string
> >
> >count=0
> >
> >While count<17 ' I need to repeat a trial up to 16 times or until
> response
> >    If StimuliArray.RESP = " " Then ' I am not
> > sure how to tell eprime if there is no response.
> >        Goto ShowStimAgain ' this is a label
> > that I inserted after the fixation cross
> >    End If
> >count = count +1
> >End
> >
> >Any help would be very appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Julia G?mez
>
>
> >
>

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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu  Mon Apr 28 18:40:07 2008
From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:40:07 -0400
Subject: getting started with script
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At 4/27/2008 03:08 PM Sunday, you wrote:
>I have built quite a few experiments using the e-prime studio, and I
>have some basic understanding in writing script (with matlab at
>least). is there a file available with basic information regarding how
>to define integers, how to jump backward or forward in the experiment
>procedure etc?

So far as I know, you have exactly two resources:  (1) Chapter 4 of 
the E-Prime User's Guide (printed or .pdf)  (2) The online E-Basic help.

I don't know how useful the User's Guide is for this, I already knew 
a lot of programming principles before I started on E-Prime and I 
have mostly puzzled things out myself, but now that I've taken a 
glance at Chapter 4 I can see it might have saved me some work.  (I 
would be curious to get others' takes.)

I have found the online E-Basic help to be much more useful (in 
E-Studio, go to Help > E-Basic Help).  Even so, be warned that the 
online help is still incomplete (e.g., 
http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic1241-12-1.aspx ), and in some 
cases just plain wrong (e.g., 
http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic1197-5-1.aspx ).

Finally, E-Basic is really a dialect of Microsoft Visual Basic, so 
you might gain something from VB manuals.  Unfortunately, most of the 
VB manuals I find are geared toward explaining how to design GUI 
elements rather than how to write code, so I cannot recommend one, if 
someone else knows a good VB reference I would be glad to know it.

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder


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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu  Mon Apr 28 18:51:52 2008
From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:51:52 -0400
Subject: Script for redoing a trial up to 16 times or untill response
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Message-ID: <MON.28.APR.2008.145152.0400.>

Julia,

>(1) Measuring RT from the first display.
>
>As I as previously explained, I present a visual array of stimuli 
>followed by a blank screen upto 16 times or until response 
>(stimArray+Blank, stimArray+Blank, and so on). The RT measure I get 
>is just from the last stimArray+Blank ( the one you respond to, 
>instead of being from the first one). I would like to have a measure 
>of the RT from the first display until response (whether is one or 
>16 displays). Is there a way to do this?

There are several ways to do this.  Here is one, for example.  You 
will have to add some script to the start and end of your 
PresentationList, so the structure might now look like this:

RTStartScript
PresentationList
     PresentationProc
         StimArray
         BlankScreen
         TrialFinishScript
RTFinishScript

RTStartScript contains script like this:
Dim TrialT0 as Long
TrialT0 = Clock.Read

RTFinishScript contains script like this:
StimArray.RT = StimArray.RTTime - TrialT0

This assumes that you want to allow a response only during the 
presentation of each StimArray.  If you want to allow a response any 
time during the PresentationList loop, there are other techniques, 
which I could explain if asked.

Once again, for more information you can look at the Clock Object and 
InputMask Object topics in the online E-Basic help.


I do not have an answer for your second request, I will leave that to 
others more talented than me.

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder


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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu  Mon Apr 28 19:06:50 2008
From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:06:50 -0400
Subject: nested to nested...
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Stefania,

>I was wandering if it is possible to refer to a nested list from
>another nested list (yeah I know... it is a kludge, I am working on a
>script which is supposed to be elegant but it takes time...). So,
>stimuli are picked up from an attribute [Letter] that is located on a
>nested list "TargetList". Some levels of the "Letter" attribute are
>referring to another attribute [LetterR] that is located on the nested
>list "RandomLetterList". A run-time error occurred: Factor Error-989.
>Cannot resolve [LetterR] in this context...

Just for fun, using EP1 I made a quick demo with nested lists in 
nested lists, i.e.,
List1
     List2
         List3
             List4

and an attribute in each list for display.  No problem.  So it can be 
done, don't know what causes your Factor Error-989.  I would first 
look to make sure that there is no collision of the same attribute 
names from multiple lists, or circular chain of attribute 
references.  Then again, I just purposely introduced a circular 
reference, and that produced the error, "Factor Error:  Circular 
attribute reference: ... references itself in this context. 
...  Error Number:-992", so I guess that's not your problem.

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From scampbell at casl.umd.edu  Mon Apr 28 19:54:44 2008
From: scampbell at casl.umd.edu (Susan G. Campbell)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:54:44 -0400
Subject: getting started with script
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I don't remember how good the manual is, though the E-Basic Help from within the program is useful, especially if you have a question that's specific to E-Prime, not to VBA (on which E-Basic is based) in general.   

I also found the O'Reilly book on VBA very useful when I was doing more E-Prime programming than I do now; the one I have is called VB & VBA in a Nutshell: The Language.  It's from 1998, but I don't think E-Basic has changed very much since then.  

For instance, I used that book when I needed to know how to specify colors that don't have names in E-Prime, since it could tell me how VBA represents colors (and the E-Basic Help was silent on the issue, as far as I could tell).  I imagine any book on VBA would do -- I just liked that one because it's got an alphabetical listing of the various components of the language; I wasn't interested in a tutorial, just a reference.

Hope this helps,
Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: e-prime at googlegroups.com on behalf of David McFarlane
Sent: Mon 4/28/2008 2:40 PM
To: e-prime at googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with script
 

At 4/27/2008 03:08 PM Sunday, you wrote:
>I have built quite a few experiments using the e-prime studio, and I
>have some basic understanding in writing script (with matlab at
>least). is there a file available with basic information regarding how
>to define integers, how to jump backward or forward in the experiment
>procedure etc?

So far as I know, you have exactly two resources:  (1) Chapter 4 of 
the E-Prime User's Guide (printed or .pdf)  (2) The online E-Basic help.

I don't know how useful the User's Guide is for this, I already knew 
a lot of programming principles before I started on E-Prime and I 
have mostly puzzled things out myself, but now that I've taken a 
glance at Chapter 4 I can see it might have saved me some work.  (I 
would be curious to get others' takes.)

I have found the online E-Basic help to be much more useful (in 
E-Studio, go to Help > E-Basic Help).  Even so, be warned that the 
online help is still incomplete (e.g., 
http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic1241-12-1.aspx ), and in some 
cases just plain wrong (e.g., 
http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic1197-5-1.aspx ).

Finally, E-Basic is really a dialect of Microsoft Visual Basic, so 
you might gain something from VB manuals.  Unfortunately, most of the 
VB manuals I find are geared toward explaining how to design GUI 
elements rather than how to write code, so I cannot recommend one, if 
someone else knows a good VB reference I would be glad to know it.

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder





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From: MSpape at FSW.leidenuniv.nl (Michiel Spape)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:38:17 +0200
Subject: getting started with script
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Hi all,
There's also my little tutorial-style coursebook: http://herr.tegendemuur.nl/binding/AnEPrimer.pdf . I can't claim it's incredibly accurate, and you have to be able to cope with a number of bad jokes, needless anecdotes, and fanaticism for conflict/control experiments, but it tends to do the trick for my students as well as some colleagues. By the end of summer, it should be fully corrected, and be based on E-Prime2 style as well as contain a number of useful appendices on SR-Box, Tobi-Eyetracking and the like.
Cheers,
 
Michiel Spap?

________________________________

Van: e-prime at googlegroups.com namens Susan G. Campbell
Verzonden: ma 28-4-2008 21:54
Aan: e-prime at googlegroups.com; e-prime at googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: getting started with script



I don't remember how good the manual is, though the E-Basic Help from within the program is useful, especially if you have a question that's specific to E-Prime, not to VBA (on which E-Basic is based) in general.  

I also found the O'Reilly book on VBA very useful when I was doing more E-Prime programming than I do now; the one I have is called VB & VBA in a Nutshell: The Language.  It's from 1998, but I don't think E-Basic has changed very much since then. 

For instance, I used that book when I needed to know how to specify colors that don't have names in E-Prime, since it could tell me how VBA represents colors (and the E-Basic Help was silent on the issue, as far as I could tell).  I imagine any book on VBA would do -- I just liked that one because it's got an alphabetical listing of the various components of the language; I wasn't interested in a tutorial, just a reference.

Hope this helps,
Susan


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To: e-prime at googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with script


At 4/27/2008 03:08 PM Sunday, you wrote:
>I have built quite a few experiments using the e-prime studio, and I
>have some basic understanding in writing script (with matlab at
>least). is there a file available with basic information regarding how
>to define integers, how to jump backward or forward in the experiment
>procedure etc?

So far as I know, you have exactly two resources:  (1) Chapter 4 of
the E-Prime User's Guide (printed or .pdf)  (2) The online E-Basic help.

I don't know how useful the User's Guide is for this, I already knew
a lot of programming principles before I started on E-Prime and I
have mostly puzzled things out myself, but now that I've taken a
glance at Chapter 4 I can see it might have saved me some work.  (I
would be curious to get others' takes.)

I have found the online E-Basic help to be much more useful (in
E-Studio, go to Help > E-Basic Help).  Even so, be warned that the
online help is still incomplete (e.g.,
http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic1241-12-1.aspx ), and in some
cases just plain wrong (e.g.,
http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic1197-5-1.aspx ).

Finally, E-Basic is really a dialect of Microsoft Visual Basic, so
you might gain something from VB manuals.  Unfortunately, most of the
VB manuals I find are geared toward explaining how to design GUI
elements rather than how to write code, so I cannot recommend one, if
someone else knows a good VB reference I would be glad to know it.

-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder










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From tomtom02 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 29 20:09:13 2008
From: tomtom02 at gmail.com (darth levator)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:09:13 -0700
Subject: null response question
In-Reply-To: <002f01c88315$a740c1d0$f5c24570$@edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.29.APR.2008.130913.0700.>

Hi Chris,
I noticed you were helping Maxfield with programming E-prime to make
no response the correct response. Just to make sure I have this right:
If you leave "Correct Response" blank, it will recognize that no
response is correct and any other key press will be considered
incorrect? Also, the same goes if I'm loading the correct response
from a column in text file? That is, I just leave the cell blank?
Thanks
Tom in Nashville

On Mar 10, 8:17 pm, "Chris Blais" <cbl... at berkeley.edu> wrote:
> Are you sure you left it blank and not " "? I've done it before and it's worked
> fine. I can send you the script if you'd like.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of Maxfield
> > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:09 PM
> > To: E-Prime
> > Subject: nullresponsequestion
>
> > I'm running a go/nogo task, and would like Eprime to score accuracy
> > (ACC) as it usually does.  Things are working just fine for my "go"
> > trials.  However, I'm running into a problem on "nogo" trials.  Since
> >noresponseis logged (nobutton press), I have included zeros in my
> > "correctresponse" column, but Eprime scores these as error trials.
> > I've also tried leaving the "correct answer" cells blank for "nogo"
> > trials, but the outcome is the same.  Any advice on how I can get
> > Eprime to treat correct "nogo" trials (null responses) as correct?
>
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Nathan from Tampa
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From AndyB1976 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 30 11:08:31 2008
From: AndyB1976 at gmail.com (Andrew Brand)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:08:31 -0700
Subject: Using E-Prime on an Intel Mac using Boot Camp
Message-ID: <WED.30.APR.2008.040831.0700.>

Has anyone use E-prime on a Intel Mac using Boot Camp?
If so then what have been your experiences? Were you able to use the
PST SRBox via a USB to Serial Adapter? And did you by any chance check
the accuracy of your RT data by using the BlackBox Toolkit?


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From baltimore.ben at gmail.com  Wed Apr 30 11:28:21 2008
From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:28:21 -0400
Subject: Using E-Prime on an Intel Mac using Boot Camp
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Message-ID: <WED.30.APR.2008.072821.0400.>

i'm using it now.  so long as you're booting up on the pc side of your
hardrive, i wouldn't expect any timing issues that you wouldn't see on a
normal pc, but i haven't used the blackbox toolkit to test it.
on another computer i'm using parallels to virtually run XP, and eprime, but
i don't expect this machine to keep good time - this is only used for
experiment design, not for data collection.

ben

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Andrew Brand <AndyB1976 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Has anyone use E-prime on a Intel Mac using Boot Camp?
> If so then what have been your experiences? Were you able to use the
> PST SRBox via a USB to Serial Adapter? And did you by any chance check
> the accuracy of your RT data by using the BlackBox Toolkit?
>
>
> >
>

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From annh_22 at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 30 14:14:45 2008
From: annh_22 at yahoo.com (ms)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:14:45 -0700
Subject: Feedback after each trial of two stimuli (dual-task)
Message-ID: <WED.30.APR.2008.071445.0700.>

I would appreciate it if you could help me with the following as what
I am trying to do does not seem to work:
Participants will see a pair of shapes (a circle followed by a square,
and vice versa). Each shape will be presented for a few ms. The square
is the target and can be either blue or green. Participants' task is
to press a Blue or Green button on a buttonbox when the square is blue
or green respectively. I will have 16 trials, so I want 4 with the
circle presented first and the blue square second, 4 with the circle
presented first and the green square second, 4 with the blue square
first and the circle second, and 4 with the green square first and the
circle second.
What I find difficult to do is give participants FEEDBACK after each
trial. If to get feedback I can only specify one input image, how can
feedback be calculated when there are 2 images in this dual task???
I would appreciate any help as I am stuck...
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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu  Wed Apr 30 14:59:28 2008
From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David K McFarlane)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:59:28 -0400
Subject: Feedback after each trial of two stimuli (dual-task)
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Message-ID: <WED.30.APR.2008.105928.0400.>

ms writes: 


> What I find difficult to do is give participants FEEDBACK after each
> trial. If to get feedback I can only specify one input image, how can
> feedback be calculated when there are 2 images in this dual task???
 

Let me see if I understand this -- On each trial you present two stimuli, 
and get a response for each stimulus.  Then you want to give feedback about 
whether both responses were correct. 


If that is the case, then you will have to use some inline script, and use 
either your own custom slide or somehow modify the standard feedback object. 
I cannot be any more specific than that, I just wanted to point you in a 
direction.  Unless somebody else comes up with something better. 


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From MSpape at FSW.leidenuniv.nl  Wed Apr 30 18:23:56 2008
From: MSpape at FSW.leidenuniv.nl (Michiel Spape)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:23:56 +0200
Subject: Feedback after each trial of two stimuli (dual-task)
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Hi,
 
If your trialprocedure is something like:
imageDisplay1
imageDisplay2
feedbackDisplay1
 
make it something like:
imageDisplay1
imageDisplay2
inline1
textDisplay1  <-- leave the text blank
 
where inline1 says something like:
if (imageDisplay1.ACC = 1) AND (imageDisplay2.ACC = 1) then textDisplay1.Text = "Well done.\n\nPress space to continue."
 
That should work (I'm not at my desk, though). The two \n's above are translated to newlines.
Cheers,
 
Michiel M. Spap?
Cognitive Psychology Unit
Leiden University

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Van: e-prime at googlegroups.com namens ms
Verzonden: wo 30-4-2008 16:14
Aan: E-Prime
Onderwerp: Feedback after each trial of two stimuli (dual-task)




I would appreciate it if you could help me with the following as what
I am trying to do does not seem to work:
Participants will see a pair of shapes (a circle followed by a square,
and vice versa). Each shape will be presented for a few ms. The square
is the target and can be either blue or green. Participants' task is
to press a Blue or Green button on a buttonbox when the square is blue
or green respectively. I will have 16 trials, so I want 4 with the
circle presented first and the blue square second, 4 with the circle
presented first and the green square second, 4 with the blue square
first and the circle second, and 4 with the green square first and the
circle second.
What I find difficult to do is give participants FEEDBACK after each
trial. If to get feedback I can only specify one input image, how can
feedback be calculated when there are 2 images in this dual task???
I would appreciate any help as I am stuck...




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