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URL: From martin.lauterbach at sapo.pt Sun Mar 2 00:51:09 2008 From: martin.lauterbach at sapo.pt (lislog) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:51:09 -0800 Subject: jitter in rapid event related design Message-ID: Dear colleagues I want to program an e-prime paradigm for fMRI with varying stimulus onset time, in order to jitter the BOLD responses. I guess this has to be done with a InLine-object in the TrialProc- object. What are the comands that have to be written into the InLine-object? Or do you have other suggestions how to introduce into the TrialList-object a variablel stimulus onset time? best lislog --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From gaolion at gmail.com Sun Mar 2 11:35:43 2008 From: gaolion at gmail.com (lion gao) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:35:43 +0800 Subject: 4 new messages in 4 topics - digest In-Reply-To: <47ca8906.07182c0a.4aa7.ffffdf4fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: == 1 of 1 == Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 4:51 pm From: lislog Dear colleagues I want to program an e-prime paradigm for fMRI with varying stimulus onset time, in order to jitter the BOLD responses. I guess this has to be done with a InLine-object in the TrialProc- object. What are the comands that have to be written into the InLine-object? Or do you have other suggestions how to introduce into the TrialList-object a variablel stimulus onset time? best lislog ，，， easy work -- this can be done assort an attribution with different time as an onset time. use [attribute] in the duration time of your stimuli. 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I guess this has to > be done with a InLine-object in the TrialProc- object. What are the > comands that have to be written into the InLine-object? Or do you have > other suggestions how to introduce into the TrialList-object a > variablel stimulus onset time? > best lislog > > > > ============================================================================== > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com or visit http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com > > To change the way you get mail from this group, visit: > http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime/subscribe?hl=en > > To report abuse, send email explaining the problem to abuse at googlegroups.com > > ============================================================================== > Google Groups: http://groups.google.com?hl=en > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Sun Mar 2 14:51:38 2008 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 09:51:38 -0500 Subject: jitter in rapid event related design In-Reply-To: <203ac96c-2070-453a-8df9-a18b081db930@n58g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: you could certainly do this with an inline script, or you could do it just using the built-in objects. here's one way to do it: say you're using a TextDisplay item to display your stimulus, and it's the onset of the TextDisplay item which you would like to jitter. let's call that TextDisplay2, and immediately before it in the procedure time-line is TextDiplay1 (a blank screen or fixation cross). go to the duration/input tab in your TextDisplay1, and in the Duration field (also in the PreRelease field) type [jitter]. now TextDisplay1 is trying to determine its duration from a column by the name of "jitter" in some higher up List. so now we need to make that list, and that column within it. let's say your trial procedure is being called from/run from "List1". go to List1, and on the same row as you have your procedure being called, create a nested list, called "JitterList", or something. inside JitterList you need to add a column titled, "jitter", to supply a value for the duration field on your TextDisplay1. in this column put all the various durations you'd like. now set JitterList to select items at random. hope that works. ben On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:51 PM, lislog wrote: > > Dear colleagues > I want to program an e-prime paradigm for fMRI with varying stimulus > onset time, in order to jitter the BOLD responses. I guess this has to > be done with a InLine-object in the TrialProc- object. What are the > comands that have to be written into the InLine-object? Or do you have > other suggestions how to introduce into the TrialList-object a > variablel stimulus onset time? > best lislog > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From MeisanAng at gmail.com Tue Mar 4 07:58:34 2008 From: MeisanAng at gmail.com (meisan) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 23:58:34 -0800 Subject: Run-time error Message-ID: I tried to run the program after doing some modifications on several slides, but failed to do so. the error message is: Run-time Error (Line 2054) 10033: This key is already associated with an element of this collection I found the line where the error occurs, but failed to figure out what the problem is. For example: The script is: Block1Feedback.States.Item("Default").Objects.Add Block1Feedback_SlideText, "Text8" I checked the setting and property of the "text8", but found that it's the same as other texts in this slide. I tried to delete this particular text, and add in a new one. The problem remains unsolved. May I know what is the problem, and how to solve it? P.s. I used some slides instead of text displays to better align the texts. I have totally 11 texts in the slides. Most contents are the same in the slides I modified. And everytime after I deleted the error texts, I would find another text with the same error in the next run. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From debonimalorie at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 14:37:16 2008 From: debonimalorie at gmail.com (malo) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 06:37:16 -0800 Subject: moving instances with mouse Message-ID: Hello, I try to make an attractive test for children with E prime and I have a question: Is it possible that the participant moves stimuli with the mouse and place them at the good place. Concretely, there are two pictures in the left side of the screen and two pictures in the right side of the screen. Subject must use the mouse to select a picture in the right of the screen and place it next to a picture in the left of the screen. Thanks for your help malorie --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 14:58:32 2008 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:58:32 -0500 Subject: moving instances with mouse In-Reply-To: <8eb0bdb5-4f8c-4a76-bf1c-218517207f6a@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: i don't think you'll be able to animate this, like dragging and dropping an icon on your desktop, but look in the eprime help file for "HitTest". you could use this HitTest function to click on an item on the screen (an image file, or a TextBox) to select it, then move the mouse cursor to the other side of the screen, click where you want to place the selected item, and redraw the slide showing the object in its new location. hope that helps. HitTest is the key, i think. ben On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:37 AM, malo wrote: > > Hello, > > > I try to make an attractive test for children with E prime and I have > a question: > > Is it possible that the participant moves stimuli with the mouse and > place them at the good place. > Concretely, there are two pictures in the left side of the screen and > two pictures in the right side of the screen. Subject must use the > mouse to select a picture in the right of the screen and place it next > to a picture in the left of the screen. > > Thanks for your help > > > malorie > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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Thanks, Tony Andrews. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Wed Mar 5 16:38:37 2008 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David K McFarlane) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:38:37 -0500 Subject: E-Prime 2.0 cloning, feature comparison In-Reply-To: <4a0990b1-48b9-4061-884c-affe6dce076d@d62g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Tony, > Also, What are the extra features of the Pro version that are alluded > to? Are they really needed in a teaching environment where very little > interfacing is done and most of the time only a very few people > actually create experiments. This has been discussed at some length both on this list and at the PST Forum, you might try searching at http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/eprime.html or http://support.pstnet.com/forum , or try my little essay at http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic914-13-1.aspx . Short answer, in your case I believe the "standard" edition will do fine. Almost nobody needs the advanced features of Pro, however there are some incompatibilities between experiments saved as Pro vs. standard. So just to allow for the widest compatibility between collaborating researchers, I advise all researchers to use Pro, but then to make sure to start writing each new experiment with the standard (not Pro) template. But again, for basic classroom use I don't see any advantage to Pro. -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From debonimalorie at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 18:05:48 2008 From: debonimalorie at gmail.com (malo) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:05:48 -0800 Subject: moving instances with mouse In-Reply-To: <3345e4a50803050658r53bca481uecd09d259a18d841@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks I will try to do this. On 5 mar, 15:58, "ben robinson" wrote: > i don't think you'll be able to animate this, like dragging and dropping an > icon on your desktop, but look in the eprime help file for "HitTest". > > you could use this HitTest function to click on an item on the screen (an > image file, or a TextBox) to select it, then move the mouse cursor to the > other side of the screen, click where you want to place the selected item, > and redraw the slide showing the object in its new location. > > hope that helps.  HitTest is the key, i think. > > ben > > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:37 AM, malo wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I try to make an attractive test for children with E prime and I have > > a question: > > > Is it possible that the participant moves stimuli with the mouse and > > place them at the good place. > > Concretely, there are two pictures in the left side of the screen and > > two pictures in the right side of the screen. 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One way of doing it is something like this: Weight Digit1 Digit2 Digit3 Digit4 Digit5 Digit6 ProbeDigit 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:0] 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:1] 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:2] 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:3] 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:4] 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:5] 6 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:6] A problem with this solution is that it results in a huge list of rows, one for every possible compination. Although the experiment is working this way, I believe there is an easier and "smarter" way of doing this. Maybe using and InLine? Anybody can help? 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URL: From keidel at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 13:48:42 2008 From: keidel at gmail.com (James Keidel) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:48:42 +0000 Subject: Problem with huge list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hi NIkos yes, indeed there should be an easier way to do this with an inline. to get you started, basically your list only needs one row I think, with attributes in place of values as you have in your email. you then have a script which creates an array of integers, 0-9. you then call RandomizeArray and take the first 5 entries from the randomized version. half the time you set the probe digit to one of the digits from the first five, the other half you take the 6th entry in the randomized array and make that the probe. One drawback here is that there is no guarantee you won't have a duplicate trial in there, but if that is a concern you can generate all the trials before starting then run through them in a script to ensure there are no duplicates. I think it is extremely unlikely this would happen though. hope this helps you get started; feel free to email me if you get stuck at all. best JK On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Nikos Konstantinou wrote: > Dear E-prime group, > > I 'd appreciate any help on this issue: > > I created an experiment which has two tasks. Task 1: participants hear over > the headphones either two or six digits which they have to remember until > the end of the trial. At the end of the trial, they see a single probe digit > (visual this time) on the screen, which matches one of digits they heard at > the beggining of the trial 50% of the times. > > One way of doing it is something like this: > > Weight Digit1 Digit2 Digit3 Digit4 Digit5 Digit6 > ProbeDigit > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > [ProbeDigit:0] > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > [ProbeDigit:1] > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > [ProbeDigit:2] > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > [ProbeDigit:3] > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > [ProbeDigit:4] > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > [ProbeDigit:5] > 6 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > [ProbeDigit:6] > > A problem with this solution is that it results in a huge list of rows, one > for every possible compination. > Although the experiment is working this way, I believe there is an easier > and "smarter" way of doing this. Maybe using and InLine? > > Anybody can help? > > Thanks in advance, > > Nikos > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 14:44:59 2008 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 09:44:59 -0500 Subject: Problem with huge list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: if i understand correctly, your list object should really only need four rows: one row for a trial that presents two digits, neither of which is the probe one for a trial that presents two digits, one of which is the probe and one each for valid and invalid 6 digit trials. then you just need to nest a list or two into this main list... maybe have one nested list with all the possible number combinations for a 6 digit trial, and one with the possibilities for a 2 digit trial. obviously, the nested list with the 6 digit possibilities only needs to be nested on the two rows from which you're calling 6 digit trials, and the nested list of 2 digit possibilities only needs to be nested on the rows which are calling your 2 digit trials. set those nested lists to random w/o replacement, and set the weights on your 4 trial types within your main list such that you are sure to sample all the trial types from the nested lists. does that make sense? ben On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Nikos Konstantinou wrote: > Dear E-prime group, > > I 'd appreciate any help on this issue: > > I created an experiment which has two tasks. Task 1: participants hear > over the headphones either two or six digits which they have to remember > until the end of the trial. At the end of the trial, they see a single probe > digit (visual this time) on the screen, which matches one of digits they > heard at the beggining of the trial 50% of the times. > > One way of doing it is something like this: > > Weight Digit1 Digit2 Digit3 Digit4 Digit5 Digit6 > ProbeDigit > 1 > [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:0] > 1 > [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:1] > 1 > [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:2] > 1 > [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:3] > 1 > [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:4] > 1 > [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:5] > 6 > [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:6] > > A problem with this solution is that it results in a huge list of rows, > one for every possible compination. > Although the experiment is working this way, I believe there is an easier > and "smarter" way of doing this. Maybe using and InLine? > > Anybody can help? > Thanks in advance, > > Nikos > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nkonstantinou at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 15:11:02 2008 From: nkonstantinou at gmail.com (Nikos Konstantinou) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:11:02 +0000 Subject: Problem with huge list In-Reply-To: <1d773a4d0803060548udbac3d0kb9d620cbb5553a11@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi James, Thanks for the quick reply. I will try to do that using the User Guide. I will let you know. Thanks a lot! Cheers, N On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:48 PM, James Keidel wrote: > > hi NIkos > > yes, indeed there should be an easier way to do this with an inline. > to get you started, basically your list only needs one row I think, > with attributes in place of values as you have in your email. > > you then have a script which creates an array of integers, 0-9. you > then call RandomizeArray and take the first 5 entries from the > randomized version. half the time you set the probe digit to one of > the digits from the first five, the other half you take the 6th entry > in the randomized array and make that the probe. One drawback here is > that there is no guarantee you won't have a duplicate trial in there, > but if that is a concern you can generate all the trials before > starting then run through them in a script to ensure there are no > duplicates. I think it is extremely unlikely this would happen > though. > > hope this helps you get started; feel free to email me if you get stuck at > all. > > best > > JK > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Nikos Konstantinou > wrote: > > Dear E-prime group, > > > > I 'd appreciate any help on this issue: > > > > I created an experiment which has two tasks. Task 1: participants hear > over > > the headphones either two or six digits which they have to remember > until > > the end of the trial. At the end of the trial, they see a single probe > digit > > (visual this time) on the screen, which matches one of digits they heard > at > > the beggining of the trial 50% of the times. > > > > One way of doing it is something like this: > > > > Weight Digit1 Digit2 Digit3 Digit4 Digit5 Digit6 > > ProbeDigit > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:0] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:1] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:2] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:3] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:4] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:5] > > 6 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:6] > > > > A problem with this solution is that it results in a huge list of rows, > one > > for every possible compination. > > Although the experiment is working this way, I believe there is an > easier > > and "smarter" way of doing this. Maybe using and InLine? > > > > Anybody can help? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Nikos > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nkonstantinou at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 15:25:27 2008 From: nkonstantinou at gmail.com (Nikos Konstantinou) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:25:27 +0000 Subject: Problem with huge list In-Reply-To: <1d773a4d0803060548udbac3d0kb9d620cbb5553a11@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If this is the script to create and randomize an array: Dim Probe (9) As Integer Probe(0) = 0 Probe(1) = 1 Probe(2) = 2 Probe(3) = 3 Probe(4) = 4 Probe(5) = 5 Probe(6) = 6 Probe(7) = 7 Probe(8) = 8 Probe(9) = 9 RandomizeArray Probe how do you " set the probe digit to one of the digits from the first five, the other half you take the 6th entry in the randomized array and make that the probe" ? Could you provide an example? I appreciate your response! Best N On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:48 PM, James Keidel wrote: > > hi NIkos > > yes, indeed there should be an easier way to do this with an inline. > to get you started, basically your list only needs one row I think, > with attributes in place of values as you have in your email. > > you then have a script which creates an array of integers, 0-9. you > then call RandomizeArray and take the first 5 entries from the > randomized version. half the time you set the probe digit to one of > the digits from the first five, the other half you take the 6th entry > in the randomized array and make that the probe. One drawback here is > that there is no guarantee you won't have a duplicate trial in there, > but if that is a concern you can generate all the trials before > starting then run through them in a script to ensure there are no > duplicates. I think it is extremely unlikely this would happen > though. > > hope this helps you get started; feel free to email me if you get stuck at > all. > > best > > JK > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Nikos Konstantinou > wrote: > > Dear E-prime group, > > > > I 'd appreciate any help on this issue: > > > > I created an experiment which has two tasks. Task 1: participants hear > over > > the headphones either two or six digits which they have to remember > until > > the end of the trial. At the end of the trial, they see a single probe > digit > > (visual this time) on the screen, which matches one of digits they heard > at > > the beggining of the trial 50% of the times. > > > > One way of doing it is something like this: > > > > Weight Digit1 Digit2 Digit3 Digit4 Digit5 Digit6 > > ProbeDigit > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:0] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:1] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:2] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:3] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:4] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:5] > > 6 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:6] > > > > A problem with this solution is that it results in a huge list of rows, > one > > for every possible compination. > > Although the experiment is working this way, I believe there is an > easier > > and "smarter" way of doing this. Maybe using and InLine? > > > > Anybody can help? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Nikos > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keidel at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 18:18:23 2008 From: keidel at gmail.com (James Keidel) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 18:18:23 +0000 Subject: Problem with huge list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: this will have to be done in pseudocode because I have totally forgotten eprime syntax and am not on a win machine at the moment: Dim Probe (9) As Integer for i from 0 to 9 Digits(i) = i end for for i from 1 to numberOfRows RandomizeArray Digits for i from 0 to 4 List1.setAtrrib(row num, digit_i%, Digits(i%)) endfor ' now if it is a trial where the target is in the nums presented if (something) List1.setAtrrib(row num, , Digits(i% + 1)) else pick a random # from 0-4, assign it to some int r% List1.setAtrrib(row num, , Digits(%r)) end if end for hope that helps look in the e-basic manual for the syntax for setting an attribute in a list. oh, and also, you should add the rows to your list in the script as well-- do that with a for loop from 2 to the number of Rows (since row 1 already exists) then fill up those rows with the above script and you're off. the way to add rows will also be on the e-basic manual page for the List Object. JK > > how do you " set the probe digit to one of the digits from the first five, > the other half you take the 6th entry in the randomized array and make that > the probe" ? > > Could you provide an example? > > I appreciate your response! > > Best > > N > > > > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:48 PM, James Keidel wrote: > > > > > > hi NIkos > > > > yes, indeed there should be an easier way to do this with an inline. > > to get you started, basically your list only needs one row I think, > > with attributes in place of values as you have in your email. > > > > you then have a script which creates an array of integers, 0-9. you > > then call RandomizeArray and take the first 5 entries from the > > randomized version. half the time you set the probe digit to one of > > the digits from the first five, the other half you take the 6th entry > > in the randomized array and make that the probe. One drawback here is > > that there is no guarantee you won't have a duplicate trial in there, > > but if that is a concern you can generate all the trials before > > starting then run through them in a script to ensure there are no > > duplicates. I think it is extremely unlikely this would happen > > though. > > > > hope this helps you get started; feel free to email me if you get stuck at > all. > > > > best > > > > JK > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Nikos Konstantinou > > wrote: > > > Dear E-prime group, > > > > > > I 'd appreciate any help on this issue: > > > > > > I created an experiment which has two tasks. Task 1: participants hear > over > > > the headphones either two or six digits which they have to remember > until > > > the end of the trial. At the end of the trial, they see a single probe > digit > > > (visual this time) on the screen, which matches one of digits they heard > at > > > the beggining of the trial 50% of the times. > > > > > > One way of doing it is something like this: > > > > > > Weight Digit1 Digit2 Digit3 Digit4 Digit5 Digit6 > > > ProbeDigit > > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > > [ProbeDigit:0] > > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > > [ProbeDigit:1] > > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > > [ProbeDigit:2] > > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > > [ProbeDigit:3] > > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > > [ProbeDigit:4] > > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > > [ProbeDigit:5] > > > 6 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > > [ProbeDigit:6] > > > > > > A problem with this solution is that it results in a huge list of rows, > one > > > for every possible compination. > > > Although the experiment is working this way, I believe there is an > easier > > > and "smarter" way of doing this. Maybe using and InLine? > > > > > > Anybody can help? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Nikos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From tony.andrews at gmail.com Fri Mar 7 10:09:17 2008 From: tony.andrews at gmail.com (Andrews, A.S.) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 02:09:17 -0800 Subject: E-Prime 2.0 cloning, feature comparison In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you for your replies and links, David. I think the standard version on a site licence may be suitable but being able to ghost images would be a huge time saver for us, and it is still not yet clear if this is possible. Regards, Tony. On Mar 5, 4:38 pm, "David K McFarlane" wrote: > Tony, > > > Also, What are the extra features of the Pro version that are alluded > > to? Are they really needed in a teaching environment where very little > > interfacing is done and most of the time only a very few people > > actually create experiments. > > This has been discussed at some length both on this list and at the PST > Forum, you might try searching athttp://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/eprime.htmlorhttp://support.pstnet.com/forum, or try my little essay athttp://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic914-13-1.aspx. > > Short answer, in your case I believe the "standard" edition will do fine.   > Almost nobody needs the advanced features of Pro, however there are some > incompatibilities between experiments saved as Pro vs. standard.  So just to > allow for the widest compatibility between collaborating researchers, I > advise all researchers to use Pro, but then to make sure to start writing > each new experiment with the standard (not Pro) template.  But again, for > basic classroom use I don't see any advantage to Pro. > >  -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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On the "Echo"-tab, you add a Display, for which you can edit the settings (font etc.) as well. Good luck! Helen. On 3/7/08, Marco wrote: > > Dear list, > > I have a specific question regarding the use of e-prime. Is it possible to > let participants type in the response (a whole word, or sentence), and to > present the next stimulus once the participant presses the ENTER button? > Further, is it possible to show the participant what he/she is typing, on > the screen (while typing)? Thanks in advance! > > Marco van de Ven > > > > -- "I had a beautiful signature in those days, intricate, oriental, illegible, with a mighty slashing underscore, a signature more complex than that of the great Hackmuth." --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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For example: Block1Feedback.States.Item("Default").Objects.Add Block1Feedback_SlideText, "Text8" E.G., I have problem with "Text8" in the slide named Block1Feedback, as indicated by the script. So I changed the name of one of the text 8, and the problem solved. I think probably this occured because I like to copy the sub-objects directly from other slides which have the same sub-objects to avoid typing the same words/contents again. Thank you very much. :) 2008/3/4, David McFarlane <mcfarla9 at msu.edu>: [Replying off list...] Just a wild guess, it looks like somehow E-Prime thinks you are trying to create two slide sub-objects with the same name. E-Studio should catch that before you get to run-time, but that's my best guess for the error. If it were me, I would first make a backup of the existing .es file. Then I would completely rebuild the offending slide object from scratch, and delete the old one, and see if that makes any difference. Good luck. -- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University At 3/4/2008 02:58 AM Tuesday, you wrote: >I tried to run the program after doing some modifications on several >slides, but failed to do so. >the error message is: > >Run-time Error (Line 2054) >10033: This key is already associated with an element of this >collection > >I found the line where the error occurs, but failed to figure out what >the problem is. > >For example: >The script is: >Block1Feedback.States.Item("Default").Objects.Add >Block1Feedback_SlideText, "Text8" > >I checked the setting and property of the "text8", but found that it's >the same as other texts in this slide. I tried to delete this >particular text, and add in a new one. The problem remains unsolved. >May I know what is the problem, and how to solve it? > >P.s. I used some slides instead of text displays to better align the >texts. >I have totally 11 texts in the slides. Most contents are the same in >the slides I modified. And everytime after I deleted the error texts, >I would find another text with the same error in the next run. -- Best Regards, ¬x¬ü¬À Ang Mei San --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From valentinosz at gmail.com Fri Mar 7 18:03:42 2008 From: valentinosz at gmail.com (Valentinos) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:03:42 -0800 Subject: RT to moving the mouse/Joystick cursor away from a fixation point Message-ID: Hello, I am trying to run an experiment that involves the following: I have two slide objects. The first slide object has a fixation point in the center and 8 images arranged around that fixation point in a circle. During this slide participants are asked to put the joystick/ mouse cursor on top of the fixation point and wait. The second slide is the Stimulus slide. The second slide is exactly the same as the previous one, but one of those 8 images in the circle has now been replaced by a movie object (e-prime 2). To the participant it appears that one of the images from the previous slide has just started moving. Once the participants see that they are required to move the cursor away from fixation and onto one specific area of the movie. The experiment runs fine but I am having difficulty making e-prime record the reaction time from the beginning of the second slide (the stimulus) to when the participant moves the joystick/mouse away from the center fixation point. This is different from the RT to pressing a button on the movie, which is easily done by e-prime. The main problem lies that the code that controls the RT to moving the mouse/joystick is placed in an in-line object after the stimulus, which implies that it will not run until after the stimulus object. At the same time I cannot use the Duration=0 trick to run the In-line at the same time as the stimulus, because then the stimulus object (slide 2) will not appear at all. Does anyone know how to get the coordinates of the position of the cursor from an inline object referring to the joystick/ mouse motions in a slide object while it is running and without pressing any buttons. At this moment I can get the coordinates of the cursor but only after a response was made, ie the subject has pressed a button which makes sense since once a response is made the inline runs and it just gets the last known coordinates of the mouse/joystick from the slide object once the response was made. 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URL: From nmaxfiel at cas.usf.edu Mon Mar 10 21:08:33 2008 From: nmaxfiel at cas.usf.edu (Maxfield) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:08:33 -0700 Subject: null response question Message-ID: I'm running a go/nogo task, and would like Eprime to score accuracy (ACC) as it usually does. Things are working just fine for my "go" trials. However, I'm running into a problem on "nogo" trials. Since no response is logged (no button press), I have included zeros in my "correct response" column, but Eprime scores these as error trials. I've also tried leaving the "correct answer" cells blank for "nogo" trials, but the outcome is the same. Any advice on how I can get Eprime to treat correct "nogo" trials (null responses) as correct? Thanks in advance, Nathan from Tampa --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From cblais at berkeley.edu Tue Mar 11 01:17:15 2008 From: cblais at berkeley.edu (Chris Blais) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:17:15 -0700 Subject: null response question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Are you sure you left it blank and not " "? I've done it before and it's worked fine. I can send you the script if you'd like. > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Maxfield > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:09 PM > To: E-Prime > Subject: null response question > > > I'm running a go/nogo task, and would like Eprime to score accuracy > (ACC) as it usually does. Things are working just fine for my "go" > trials. However, I'm running into a problem on "nogo" trials. Since > no response is logged (no button press), I have included zeros in my > "correct response" column, but Eprime scores these as error trials. > I've also tried leaving the "correct answer" cells blank for "nogo" > trials, but the outcome is the same. Any advice on how I can get > Eprime to treat correct "nogo" trials (null responses) as correct? > > Thanks in advance, > Nathan from Tampa > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From elmar2009 at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 21:16:27 2008 From: elmar2009 at gmail.com (elmar2009 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:16:27 -0400 Subject: "Null" question Message-ID: Hello, I am trying to get my E-prime data ready for data analysis but right now I am confused. When I merge my data and go to E-data aid, many variable columns say "NULL". These happen to be all the demographic questions. In these questions we asked such questions as press "1" if you are a male and "2" if female; press "1" if you are White, "2" if you are Black, etc. I've noted that the .edad file also has "Null" in those columns. I went back and looked at the text files. There are responses to those questions for the students meaning students did press a key to answer those questions. What am I doing wrong? Why do I keep getting "Null" instead of the actual responses? If anyone has any suggestions, i would much appreciate them. Thanks, Francine --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From cblais at berkeley.edu Tue Mar 11 21:31:08 2008 From: cblais at berkeley.edu (Chris Blais) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:31:08 -0700 Subject: "Null" question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Did you setup an inline like: if you pressed 1 then c.setAttrib "sex", "male" elseif you pressed 2 then c.setAttrib "sex", "female" end if Note: c.setAttrib is the important part. Also, did you look for that info on the trial for which it was asked (probably near the beginning)? They may not fill the column like "subject" or "session". > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of elmar2009 at gmail.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:16 PM > To: e-prime at googlegroups.com > Subject: "Null" question > > > Hello, > > I am trying to get my E-prime data ready for data analysis but right > now I am confused. When I merge my data and go to E-data aid, many > variable columns say "NULL". These happen to be all the demographic > questions. In these questions we asked such questions as press "1" if > you are a male and "2" if female; press "1" if you are White, "2" if > you are Black, etc. I've noted that the .edad file also has "Null" in > those columns. I went back and looked at the text files. There are > responses to those questions for the students meaning students did > press a key to answer those questions. > > What am I doing wrong? Why do I keep getting "Null" instead of the > actual responses? > > If anyone has any suggestions, i would much appreciate them. > > Thanks, > Francine > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From debonimalorie at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 14:43:50 2008 From: debonimalorie at gmail.com (malo) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:43:50 -0700 Subject: in line command Message-ID: Hello, I'm trying to write an in line object but it doesn't work Here is the part of in line that must be wrong: in fact I want to implement a button for replacing the object at the initial place (goto RedoTrial) and another "end" button to go to the record the response and go to the next trial. If strHit = "EndObject" Then c.SetAttrib "OverallRT", Clock.Read - lnStartTime Goto EndInput End If Else If strHit = "Image3" Then Goto RedoTrial End If Can you help me? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From hftibboel at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 14:54:51 2008 From: hftibboel at gmail.com (Helen Tibboel) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:54:51 +0100 Subject: in line command In-Reply-To: <26d0e020-5e1f-4fb3-94f7-884ff91eb7c7@m34g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hello, I think the problem is that you write "End if" just before "Else". If you want to use "If.. then.. else"-statements, it should probably look something like this: If strHit = "EndObject" Then c.SetAttrib "OverallRT", Clock.Read - lnStartTime Goto EndInput ElseIf strHit = "Image3" Then Goto RedoTrial End If I hope this helps. Kind regards, Helen. On 3/12/08, malo wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I'm trying to write an in line object but it doesn't work > Here is the part of in line that must be wrong: in fact I want to > implement a button for replacing the object at the initial place (goto > RedoTrial) and another "end" button to go to the record the response > and go to the next trial. > > If strHit = "EndObject" Then > c.SetAttrib "OverallRT", Clock.Read - lnStartTime > Goto EndInput > End If > > Else > > If strHit = "Image3" Then > Goto RedoTrial > End If > > > Can you help me? > > > > -- "I had a beautiful signature in those days, intricate, oriental, illegible, with a mighty slashing underscore, a signature more complex than that of the great Hackmuth." --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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If you > want to use "If.. then.. else"-statements, it should probably look something > like this: > > If strHit = "EndObject" Then >    c.SetAttrib "OverallRT", Clock.Read - lnStartTime >    Goto EndInput > ElseIf strHit = "Image3" Then >    Goto RedoTrial > End If > > I hope this helps. > Kind regards, > Helen. > > On 3/12/08, malo wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > I'm trying to write an in line object but it doesn't work > > Here is the part of in line that must be wrong: in fact I want to > > implement a button for replacing the object at the initial place (goto > > RedoTrial) and another "end" button to go to the record the response > > and go to the next trial. > > > If strHit = "EndObject" Then > > c.SetAttrib "OverallRT", Clock.Read - lnStartTime > > Goto EndInput > > End If > > > Else > > > If strHit = "Image3" Then > > Goto RedoTrial > > End If > > > Can you help me? > > -- > "I had a beautiful signature in those days, intricate, oriental, illegible, > with a mighty slashing underscore, a signature more complex than that of the > great Hackmuth."- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - > > - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From debonimalorie at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 15:12:44 2008 From: debonimalorie at gmail.com (malo) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:12:44 -0700 Subject: in line command In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In fact the command for replacing object at their initial place works but when I click on the endOject the following message appear: Run-time Error (Line 616) 91: Object variable or With block variable not set And the refered line is here: If Err.Number = ebInputAccepted Then Err.Clear Resume EndReleaseResume ElseIf Err.Number <> 0 Then 'NOTE: If you receive a runtime error here, it ' is because a runtime error other than ebInputAccepted ' was thrown (ebInputAccepted for catching input masks that jump). 'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up ' your own error handler, which will also need to take ' into account for any input masks that jump. ' 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the message Err.Raise Err.Number End If EndReleaseResume: '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ' Label - EndRelease END Thanks for your help On 12 mar, 16:04, malo wrote: > I have just tried but I doesn't work > > On 12 mar, 15:54, "Helen Tibboel" wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > I think the problem is that you write "End if" just before "Else". If you > > want to use "If.. then.. else"-statements, it should probably look something > > like this: > > > If strHit = "EndObject" Then > >    c.SetAttrib "OverallRT", Clock.Read - lnStartTime > >    Goto EndInput > > ElseIf strHit = "Image3" Then > >    Goto RedoTrial > > End If > > > I hope this helps. > > Kind regards, > > Helen. > > > On 3/12/08, malo wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm trying to write an in line object but it doesn't work > > > Here is the part of in line that must be wrong: in fact I want to > > > implement a button for replacing the object at the initial place (goto > > > RedoTrial) and another "end" button to go to the record the response > > > and go to the next trial. > > > > If strHit = "EndObject" Then > > > c.SetAttrib "OverallRT", Clock.Read - lnStartTime > > > Goto EndInput > > > End If > > > > Else > > > > If strHit = "Image3" Then > > > Goto RedoTrial > > > End If > > > > Can you help me? > > > -- > > "I had a beautiful signature in those days, intricate, oriental, illegible, > > with a mighty slashing underscore, a signature more complex than that of the > > great Hackmuth."- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - > > > - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - > > - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From debonimalorie at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 13:24:53 2008 From: debonimalorie at gmail.com (malo) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:24:53 -0700 Subject: problem in recording accuracy in a drag and drop task Message-ID: hello, I'm trying to do a test with drag and drop features but I don't know how to make an inline which will record accuracy. There are two pictures on the left of the screen ("topface"and "bottomface") and two "drappictures" on the right part of the screen ("Stim1" and "Stim2"). The subject must move the two "drappictures" next to the corresponding pictures on the left of the screen (in fact in a goal rectangle placed next to each of the left pictures). So, if the pairs of pictures are similar, accuracy will be 1. Can you help me to make the inline? I think the problem is in this part but I'm not sure: 'Each "Drag" object is named "Drag" followed by the corresponding picture. 'This Mid function will return only the picture portion of the name '(i.e., "[Stim1]",or "[Stim2]"). c.SetAttrib "Goal1Response", Mid(strDrag, 5, Len(strDrag) - 4) If c.GetAttrib("Goal1Response") = c.GetAttrib("topface") Then boolGoal1 = True End If ElseIf nCountGoal = 2 Then c.SetAttrib "Goal2Response", Mid(strDrag, 5, Len(strDrag) - 4) If c.GetAttrib("Goal2Response") = c.GetAttrib("bottomface") Then boolGoal2 = True Thanks Malorie --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up ' your own error handler, which will also need to take ' into account for any input masks that jump. ' 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the message Err.Raise Err.Number End If EndReleaseResume: After the stimulus, I have an inline (dohittest), a collect release object, an inline (moveobject), a label (endrelease), an inline (jump back), a label (EndInput) and an in line (check accuracy) Could you give me an idea of the problem? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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Do Select Case SlideX.TimeLimit - (Clock.Read - SlideX.OnsetTime) Case 9995 to 10005 c.SetAttribAtSource "Remaining", 10 Case 8885 to 9005 c.SetAttribAtSource "Remaining", 9 Case... Case 995 to 1005 c.SetAttribAtSource "Remaining", 1 End Select Loop While Clock.Read - SlideX.OnsetTime < SlideX.TimeLimit this is just a guess. let me know if it works. ben On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Joseph Williams < josephjaywilliams at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, I'd like to be able to display how much time participants have left to > make a response- e.g. a textobject on a slide that appears when there are > 10 seconds left, and counts down from 10 to 0. Does anyone have any ideas on > how to implement this? > > Thanks, > > Joseph > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:24 AM, malo wrote: > > Hi all, > > > When I run my script, I have the following message: > > Run-time Error (Line 618) > 91: Object variable or With block variable not set > > and it is referred to this line: > If Err.Number = ebInputAccepted Then > Err.Clear > Resume EndReleaseResume > ElseIf Err.Number <> 0 Then > 'NOTE: If you receive a runtime error here, it > ' is because a runtime error other than ebInputAccepted > ' was thrown (ebInputAccepted for catching input masks that > jump). > 'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that > ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up > ' your own error handler, which will also need to take > ' into account for any input masks that jump. > ' > 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the > message > Err.Raise Err.Number > End If > > EndReleaseResume: > > After the stimulus, I have an inline (dohittest), a collect release > object, an inline (moveobject), a label (endrelease), an inline (jump > back), a label (EndInput) and an in line (check accuracy) > > Could you give me an idea of the problem? > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From margalhos at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 19:03:20 2008 From: margalhos at gmail.com (Jivago) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:03:20 -0700 Subject: Windows Vista Message-ID: I would like to ask the Forum if the E-prime works fine with Windows Vista. Will only the E-Prime 2.0 or 2.0 Pro will work with Windows Vista or other older E-Prime versions, like 1.1 will work as well also? Thanks in advance, Pedro --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Tue Mar 18 19:26:07 2008 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:26:07 -0400 Subject: Windows Vista In-Reply-To: <9d464f61-71bf-440e-8f38-3382fb048bd9@d4g2000prg.googlegrou ps.com> Message-ID: Pedro, >I would like to ask the Forum if the E-prime works fine with Windows Vista. >Will only the E-Prime 2.0 or 2.0 Pro will work with Windows Vista or >other older E-Prime versions, like 1.1 will work as well also? Thanks for asking. I have run both EP2, "standard" and Pro, and EP1.2 under Vista. This is on a deveopment system, I'm not sure that I would recommend Vista for running experiments. EP2 under Vista gives us frequent "sound timed out" errors even in the middle of experiment runs, don't know if the problem is EP2 or Vista (PST has not responded to our request yet). The one problem I had running EP1.2 under Vista was the SRBox driver, but once I installed the SRBox driver from EP2 it also worked with EP1.2. Also, RefreshClockTest shows significant errors on my machine, but I don't know if that's a problem with Vista or just that I have never tuned my machine for EP. So EP2 standard/Pro & EP1.2 under Vista are good enough for my development system, and we will have to hear from others about using this setup for running experiments. David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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Can anyone offer some advice? I assume I will need to write some code but I don't know where to begin. Thank you!! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From DLindenbach at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 23:29:11 2008 From: DLindenbach at gmail.com (DLindenbach at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:29:11 -0700 Subject: Error 10: Data file did not convert Message-ID: Hello, Everytime I run a particular program, I get an error after the session procedure is done. The system says "the datafile did not convert" "error occured reading text file - unexpected end of file... Error Number: 10". The line given is the line after the last line in the e- prime text file. It seems to be an error converting the text file to an EDAT file. Any suggestions? Thanks --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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Error Number: 10". The line given is the line after the last line in the e- prime text file. It seems to be an error converting the text file to an EDAT file. Any suggestions? Thanks ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DLindenbach at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 05:36:30 2008 From: DLindenbach at gmail.com (DLindenbach at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:36:30 -0700 Subject: Error 10: Data file did not convert In-Reply-To: <560710.56583.qm@web31814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks for your reply Richard, but I don't have the e-dataaid file open. Other e-prime scripts work, but not this one. I'm terribly vexed. Cheers On Mar 19, 7:04 pm, Richard Anderson wrote: > I believe you will get this error if you have the data file open (in e-dataaid) while trying to run the experiment. > > - Richard Anderson > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "DLindenb... at gmail.com" > To: E-Prime > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:29:11 PM > Subject: Error 10: Data file did not convert > > Hello, > Everytime I run a particular program, I get an error after the session > procedure is done. The system says "the datafile did not convert" > "error occured reading text file - unexpected end of file... Error > Number: 10". The line given is the line after the last line in the e- > prime text file. It seems to be an error converting the text file to > an EDAT file. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 11:47:20 2008 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:47:20 -0400 Subject: Error 10: Data file did not convert In-Reply-To: <9b9b4eb9-023e-415f-8883-bfc1226982bd@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: are you running the script from the e-run file, or from the e-studio file? maybe your e-run file got corrupted, and the last line got deleted somehow... all i can think of. if you're running from the e-run file, check some other e-run files to see if, maybe, they all have something specific at the end of the file, that this uncooperative file of yours might be missing. On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:36 AM, wrote: > > Thanks for your reply Richard, but I don't have the e-dataaid file > open. Other e-prime scripts work, but not this one. I'm terribly > vexed. > > Cheers > > On Mar 19, 7:04 pm, Richard Anderson wrote: > > I believe you will get this error if you have the data file open (in > e-dataaid) while trying to run the experiment. > > > > - Richard Anderson > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: "DLindenb... at gmail.com" > > To: E-Prime > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:29:11 PM > > Subject: Error 10: Data file did not convert > > > > Hello, > > Everytime I run a particular program, I get an error after the session > > procedure is done. The system says "the datafile did not convert" > > "error occured reading text file - unexpected end of file... Error > > Number: 10". The line given is the line after the last line in the e- > > prime text file. It seems to be an error converting the text file to > > an EDAT file. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tiburona at gmail.com Wed Mar 26 22:02:45 2008 From: tiburona at gmail.com (tiburona) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:02:45 -0700 Subject: Windows Vista In-Reply-To: <47e01758.24f8720a.4e53.6348SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: David, Just to clarify, you would recommend running E-Prime on XP rather than Vista, because it is buggy on Vista? We are buying new machines and deciding whether to get them loaded with XP or Vista. It's apparently no longer possible to get the sound card PST says it recommends (here: http://www.pstnet.com/products/e-prime/#require) on an XP machine, only with Vista. Thank you, Katie On Mar 18, 3:26 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > Pedro, > > >I would like to ask the Forum if the E-prime works fine with WindowsVista. > >Will only the E-Prime 2.0 or 2.0 Pro will work with WindowsVistaor > >other older E-Prime versions, like 1.1 will work as well also? > > Thanks for asking. I have run both EP2, "standard" and Pro, and > EP1.2 underVista. This is on a deveopment system, I'm not sure that > I would recommendVistafor running experiments. EP2 underVista > gives us frequent "sound timed out" errors even in the middle of > experiment runs, don't know if the problem is EP2 orVista(PST has > not responded to our request yet). The one problem I had running > EP1.2 underVistawas the SRBox driver, but once I installed the > SRBox driver from EP2 it also worked with EP1.2. Also, > RefreshClockTest shows significant errors on my machine, but I don't > know if that's a problem withVistaor just that I have never tuned > my machine for EP. > > So EP2 standard/Pro & EP1.2 underVistaare good enough for my > development system, and we will have to hear from others about using > this setup for running experiments. > > David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From pquain at une.edu.au Wed Mar 26 22:11:38 2008 From: pquain at une.edu.au (Peter Quain) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:11:38 +1100 Subject: Windows Vista In-Reply-To: <63dcd8ae-04a0-4a76-b6a5-35886eb6c67b@8g2000hse.googlegroup s.com> Message-ID: don't touch Vista. it will take them years to debug, even a bit. ? Audigy sound cards have XP drivers ... I have 1 in my XP machine. http://au.creative.com/support/downloads/ At 09:02 AM 27/03/2008, you wrote: >David, > >Just to clarify, you would recommend running E-Prime on XP rather than >Vista, because it is buggy on Vista? We are buying new machines and >deciding whether to get them loaded with XP or Vista. It's apparently >no longer possible to get the sound card PST says it recommends (here: >http://www.pstnet.com/products/e-prime/#require) on an XP machine, >only with Vista. > >Thank you, >Katie > >On Mar 18, 3:26 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > > Pedro, > > > > >I would like to ask the Forum if the E-prime works fine with WindowsVista. > > >Will only the E-Prime 2.0 or 2.0 Pro will work with WindowsVistaor > > >other older E-Prime versions, like 1.1 will work as well also? > > > > Thanks for asking. I have run both EP2, "standard" and Pro, and > > EP1.2 underVista. This is on a deveopment system, I'm not sure that > > I would recommendVistafor running experiments. EP2 underVista > > gives us frequent "sound timed out" errors even in the middle of > > experiment runs, don't know if the problem is EP2 orVista(PST has > > not responded to our request yet). The one problem I had running > > EP1.2 underVistawas the SRBox driver, but once I installed the > > SRBox driver from EP2 it also worked with EP1.2. Also, > > RefreshClockTest shows significant errors on my machine, but I don't > > know if that's a problem withVistaor just that I have never tuned > > my machine for EP. > > > > So EP2 standard/Pro & EP1.2 underVistaare good enough for my > > development system, and we will have to hear from others about using > > this setup for running experiments. > > > > David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder >> > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1345 - Release Date: >26/03/2008 6:50 PM > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1345 - Release Date: >26/03/2008 6:50 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1345 - Release Date: 26/03/2008 6:50 PM --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From gregstuarthooper at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 02:44:29 2008 From: gregstuarthooper at gmail.com (gregh) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:44:29 -0700 Subject: concurrent stimuli Message-ID: Hi, I am new to ePrime and would like to know if will be possible to implement the following: I can currently present a continuous stream of sound files - randomised for 4, 6, or 8 sec presentation. At the same time I also want to present a random character every 500ms. There is no need for the timing of this to be tightly coupled to the sound. I see this as two parallel activities with their own individual timing but ePrime seems to be designed to run a single serial stream. Will it be possible to program this in ePrime? thanks for any help, Greg --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From cindygooch at yahoo.com Thu Mar 27 13:18:16 2008 From: cindygooch at yahoo.com (javagirl) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:18:16 -0700 Subject: SoundOut object is sporadic Message-ID: Hi List, new to E-Prime here. I have a program with a block that presents a SoundOut object every trial, same file every time. Some trials it gives the sound, others it doesn't. I have a previous block that presents the same file every trial with no problem. Any ideas on what I could be doing wrong? I can't see a difference between the properties on the two SoundOut objects. Cindy --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From tiburona at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 14:18:00 2008 From: tiburona at gmail.com (tiburona) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:18:00 -0700 Subject: Windows Vista In-Reply-To: <20080326221148.WNPG10679.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@tardis.une.edu.au> Message-ID: Thanks for your reply, Peter. The problem is that Dell, at least on their website, was refusing to let me order an Audigy card with XP, but giving me a little error that said I had to choose Vista if I wanted that sound card. I suppose it's conceivable if I called Dell they could fix me up. Do you have any experience running E-Prime on a Vista machine, or have you heard stories? Do you know of specific problems they ran into, and what version of E-prime they were using? Thanks again, everyone, for all your help. On Mar 26, 6:11 pm, Peter Quain wrote: > don't touchVista. it will take them years to debug, even a bit. > > ? Audigy sound cards have XP drivers ... I have 1 in my XP machine. > > http://au.creative.com/support/downloads/ > > At 09:02 AM 27/03/2008, you wrote: > > > > >David, > > >Just to clarify, you would recommend running E-Prime on XP rather than > >Vista, because it is buggy onVista? We are buying new machines and > >deciding whether to get them loaded with XP orVista. It's apparently > >no longer possible to get the sound card PST says it recommends (here: > >http://www.pstnet.com/products/e-prime/#require) on an XP machine, > >only withVista. > > >Thank you, > >Katie > > >On Mar 18, 3:26 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > > > Pedro, > > > > >I would like to ask the Forum if the E-prime works fine with WindowsVista. > > > >Will only the E-Prime 2.0 or 2.0 Pro will work with WindowsVistaor > > > >other older E-Prime versions, like 1.1 will work as well also? > > > > Thanks for asking. I have run both EP2, "standard" and Pro, and > > > EP1.2 underVista. This is on a deveopment system, I'm not sure that > > > I would recommendVistafor running experiments. EP2 underVista > > > gives us frequent "sound timed out" errors even in the middle of > > > experiment runs, don't know if the problem is EP2 orVista(PST has > > > not responded to our request yet). The one problem I had running > > > EP1.2 underVistawas the SRBox driver, but once I installed the > > > SRBox driver from EP2 it also worked with EP1.2. Also, > > > RefreshClockTest shows significant errors on my machine, but I don't > > > know if that's a problem withVistaor just that I have never tuned > > > my machine for EP. > > > > So EP2 standard/Pro & EP1.2 underVistaare good enough for my > > > development system, and we will have to hear from others about using > > > this setup for running experiments. > > > > David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG. > >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1345 - Release Date: > >26/03/2008 6:50 PM > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG. > >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1345 - Release Date: > >26/03/2008 6:50 PM > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1345 - Release Date: 26/03/2008 6:50 PM --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From DLindenbach at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 17:01:39 2008 From: DLindenbach at gmail.com (DLindenbach at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:01:39 -0700 Subject: Error 10: Data file did not convert In-Reply-To: <3345e4a50803200447m186b4d88vecb7dff89541180b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I found out the problem from e-prime user support. While blocks within the session procedure were set to log data, I apparently had set the session procedure to [b]not[/b] log data, which caused the error. Cheers On Mar 20, 4:47 am, "ben robinson" wrote: > are you running the script from the e-run file, or from the e-studio file? > maybe your e-run file got corrupted, and the last line got deleted > somehow... all i can think of. if you're running from the e-run file, check > some other e-run files to see if, maybe, they all have something specific at > the end of the file, that this uncooperative file of yours might be missing. > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:36 AM, wrote: > > > Thanks for your reply Richard, but I don't have the e-dataaid file > > open. Other e-prime scripts work, but not this one. I'm terribly > > vexed. > > > Cheers > > > On Mar 19, 7:04 pm, Richard Anderson wrote: > > > I believe you will get this error if you have the data file open (in > > e-dataaid) while trying to run the experiment. > > > > - Richard Anderson > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: "DLindenb... at gmail.com" > > > To: E-Prime > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:29:11 PM > > > Subject: Error 10: Data file did not convert > > > > Hello, > > > Everytime I run a particular program, I get an error after the session > > > procedure is done. The system says "the datafile did not convert" > > > "error occured reading text file - unexpected end of file... Error > > > Number: 10". The line given is the line after the last line in the e- > > > prime text file. It seems to be an error converting the text file to > > > an EDAT file. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > >http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From martin.lauterbach at sapo.pt Sun Mar 30 11:34:55 2008 From: martin.lauterbach at sapo.pt (lislog) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 04:34:55 -0700 Subject: Windows Vista In-Reply-To: <9d464f61-71bf-440e-8f38-3382fb048bd9@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Pedro, I had also problems with e-prime 2.0 running on Windows Vista. The slide onset time varies a lot and timeOut errors appears frequently. The support of e-primes thinks that Vista is not the cause for that problem, but I daught. The suggestions to solve the problem did not work. I attach my correspondency with the e-prime support. The same file runs perfectly on Windows XP. I decided to install Windows XP on my new machine, in order to avoid incompatibility problems. All best Martin (lislog) Dear collegues, the experiment attached creates allways the following run time error: the operation to load the sound timed out, error-999, Line 325: Slide1_SoundBuffer.Load. The buffer size is set to 5000 ms and the buffer mode is "streaming". Setting the buffer size higher (e.g.15000 ms) does not resolve anything. What else can I do to avoid the problem? From Matt Lenhart on 1/31/2008 3:18:00 PM Hi Martin, Early versions of E-Prime 2.0 had a number of sound buffering issues. Our developers have attempted to reduce these issues as much as possible. The first step to avoid this error would be to upgrade to the latest version of E-Prime 2.0. This can be done via the following link: E-Prime 2.0 Professional - http://www.pstnet.com/downloads/e-prime/2.0/rc/EP2RC2.0.1.119.exe Note that you will need to uninstall your current version before installing the new one. Please try installing this upgrade and then try running your experiment again. If you continue to have difficulty, please let me know. Please include any error messages you receive. It may also be helpful if you could attach a few of the sound files you are experiencing this problem with. You can attach a single ZIP that contains your files. Please let me know what you find. Sincerely, Matt Lenhart Technical Consultant From Martin Lauterbach on 2/6/2008 11:34:00 AM DLApalNpalSRBox-1-1.edat Dear Matt, I applicated the changes You recommaded, but the problem, continues. The same file runs on another labtop without any problem. The only difference is that the labtop with problem runs on a Windows Vista OS, the other on WindowsXP OS. In the E-prime data file the onset delays for the slide vary in an inordenate manner. I attach the file. I was trying to change the timing mode from event to cumulative without any success. Do you have any further suggestions? best Martin From Matt Lenhart on 2/11/2008 9:28:00 AM Hi Martin, The different operating systems between the two laptops should not cause any kind of conflict with sound presentation. We have tested and confirmed that E-Prime 2.0 is fully compatible on both. However, there may be some small hardware differences between the machines that is causing an error when the sound is being loaded. This problem is a little difficult to diagnose and address, and our developers are working to do so in future builds of E-Prime 2.0. You will be able to download future builds via the "Download" section of this support site. In regards to the onset delay issue you are having in the data file you attached, a Sound.LoadFactor attribute is available in E-Prime 2.0 that will allow you to alter the way sounds are loaded. This can drastically improve performance. To set the value of this attribute, place an InLine at the start of the SessionProc and enter: c.SetAttrib "Sound.LoadFactor", 100 The value sent (i.e., 100 in this example) can be any number between 1-100. If 100 does not improve the issue, you can try other numbers. If you are running on a dual-core machine, values 5 or lower may improve things more than 100. You may also want to try setting the Sound.LoadFactor attribute on the Vista machine to see if this assists with avoiding the error message you are receiving. Please let me know what you find. Matt From Martin Lauterbach on 2/21/2008 6:58:00 AM Dear Matt, I did the changes you recommended, but infortunately it did not solve the problem. The onset time of the sound file continues to vary a lot and the buffer exceeds easily its capacity. As you recommanded, I tried various values for the Sound.LoadFactor, with no essential differences between the settings. I do not know how to change the Sound.LoadFactor on my computer. Where should I introduce the changes? Or should I report the problem to Toshiba (my computer is a Tecra S12), in order to solve it. Hopefully soolving the problem soon best Martin From Matt Lenhart on 2/25/2008 10:53:00 AM Hi Martin, The Sound.LoadFactor attribute is exclusive to E-Prime 2.0. This is not a setting that can be changed on your computer. Rather, this setting changes the way E-Prime 2.0 loads and buffers sound internally. To change the Sound.LoadFactor value, you should simply place an InLine at the start of the SessionProc and enter the script provided in my previous response. Also, though I am unsure of the length/size of your sound files, you may want to consider changing the Buffer Mode back to "Buffered" (i.e., instead of "Streaming"). The Buffer Size can be set to any value up to 100000, so if your files are less than 100 seconds, this is worth a try. Also, if the files are a reasonable size, you can attach them to a response and I will run your experiment on my machine and see if I can replicate the problem. This may lend insight to another issue that may be causing the problem but has not yet been considered. The support site can handle files 10MB or less, so if your zipped files are less than this, you can attach the ZIP containing them. You can also try some other maintenance techniques, such as ensuring that your sound adapter has the most up-to-date drivers. You will need to contact the manufacturer to obtain these (you can typically go to their web site to get them). You can also try shutting down any background applications that could be interfering using the MSCONFIG utility. Please see INFO: How to use MSCONFIG to troubleshoot machine configuration and reduce background applications. If you continue to have problems, you can generate a Tech Support report for us to look at to see if your machine configurationg poses any problems. Please see INFO: How to send a tech support report to PST representatives if you are unsure of how to generate this report. In general, our developers are aware of these problems and are working to fix them in future builds of E-Prime 2.0. Unfortunately, the problems vary from machine to machine and are a bit difficult to tackle. However, we are working to sort them out and hope to do so very soon. Please let me know what you find. On Mar 18, 8:03 pm, Jivago wrote: > I would like to ask the Forum if the E-prime works fine with Windows > Vista. > Will only the E-Prime 2.0 or 2.0 Pro will work with Windows Vista or > other older E-Prime versions, like 1.1 will work as well also? > Thanks in advance, > Pedro --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Mon Mar 31 20:21:31 2008 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:21:31 -0400 Subject: Windows Vista In-Reply-To: <63dcd8ae-04a0-4a76-b6a5-35886eb6c67b@8g2000hse.googlegroup s.com> Message-ID: Katie, At 3/26/2008 06:02 PM Wednesday, you wrote: >Just to clarify, you would recommend running E-Prime on XP rather than >Vista, because it is buggy on Vista? We are buying new machines and >deciding whether to get them loaded with XP or Vista. It's apparently >no longer possible to get the sound card PST says it recommends (here: >http://www.pstnet.com/products/e-prime/#require) on an XP machine, >only with Vista. I was away on vacation, luckily others have already filled in, but FWIW... I am reluctant to use the term "buggy" yet. I only know that we get frequent "sound timed out" errors with EP2 under Vista, and PST has not yet addressed this problem. Also, both Vista and EP2 in general are new and untested, whereas both Win XP and EP1 have already proven fairly stable. As to the sound card, we have never paid any attention to the PST recommendations. At least with EP1, any SoundBlaster-compatible card that we had Just Worked. I expect the same with EP2. As always, YMMV. -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From gaolion at gmail.com Sun Mar 2 11:35:43 2008 From: gaolion at gmail.com (lion gao) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:35:43 +0800 Subject: 4 new messages in 4 topics - digest In-Reply-To: <47ca8906.07182c0a.4aa7.ffffdf4fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: == 1 of 1 == Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 4:51 pm From: lislog Dear colleagues I want to program an e-prime paradigm for fMRI with varying stimulus onset time, in order to jitter the BOLD responses. I guess this has to be done with a InLine-object in the TrialProc- object. What are the comands that have to be written into the InLine-object? Or do you have other suggestions how to introduce into the TrialList-object a variablel stimulus onset time? best lislog ??? easy work -- this can be done assort an attribution with different time as an onset time. use [attribute] in the duration time of your stimuli. 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I guess this has to > be done with a InLine-object in the TrialProc- object. What are the > comands that have to be written into the InLine-object? Or do you have > other suggestions how to introduce into the TrialList-object a > variablel stimulus onset time? > best lislog > > > > ============================================================================== > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com or visit http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com > > To change the way you get mail from this group, visit: > http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime/subscribe?hl=en > > To report abuse, send email explaining the problem to abuse at googlegroups.com > > ============================================================================== > Google Groups: http://groups.google.com?hl=en > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Sun Mar 2 14:51:38 2008 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 09:51:38 -0500 Subject: jitter in rapid event related design In-Reply-To: <203ac96c-2070-453a-8df9-a18b081db930@n58g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: you could certainly do this with an inline script, or you could do it just using the built-in objects. here's one way to do it: say you're using a TextDisplay item to display your stimulus, and it's the onset of the TextDisplay item which you would like to jitter. let's call that TextDisplay2, and immediately before it in the procedure time-line is TextDiplay1 (a blank screen or fixation cross). go to the duration/input tab in your TextDisplay1, and in the Duration field (also in the PreRelease field) type [jitter]. now TextDisplay1 is trying to determine its duration from a column by the name of "jitter" in some higher up List. so now we need to make that list, and that column within it. let's say your trial procedure is being called from/run from "List1". go to List1, and on the same row as you have your procedure being called, create a nested list, called "JitterList", or something. inside JitterList you need to add a column titled, "jitter", to supply a value for the duration field on your TextDisplay1. in this column put all the various durations you'd like. now set JitterList to select items at random. hope that works. ben On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:51 PM, lislog wrote: > > Dear colleagues > I want to program an e-prime paradigm for fMRI with varying stimulus > onset time, in order to jitter the BOLD responses. I guess this has to > be done with a InLine-object in the TrialProc- object. What are the > comands that have to be written into the InLine-object? Or do you have > other suggestions how to introduce into the TrialList-object a > variablel stimulus onset time? > best lislog > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From MeisanAng at gmail.com Tue Mar 4 07:58:34 2008 From: MeisanAng at gmail.com (meisan) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 23:58:34 -0800 Subject: Run-time error Message-ID: I tried to run the program after doing some modifications on several slides, but failed to do so. the error message is: Run-time Error (Line 2054) 10033: This key is already associated with an element of this collection I found the line where the error occurs, but failed to figure out what the problem is. For example: The script is: Block1Feedback.States.Item("Default").Objects.Add Block1Feedback_SlideText, "Text8" I checked the setting and property of the "text8", but found that it's the same as other texts in this slide. I tried to delete this particular text, and add in a new one. The problem remains unsolved. May I know what is the problem, and how to solve it? P.s. I used some slides instead of text displays to better align the texts. I have totally 11 texts in the slides. Most contents are the same in the slides I modified. And everytime after I deleted the error texts, I would find another text with the same error in the next run. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From debonimalorie at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 14:37:16 2008 From: debonimalorie at gmail.com (malo) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 06:37:16 -0800 Subject: moving instances with mouse Message-ID: Hello, I try to make an attractive test for children with E prime and I have a question: Is it possible that the participant moves stimuli with the mouse and place them at the good place. Concretely, there are two pictures in the left side of the screen and two pictures in the right side of the screen. Subject must use the mouse to select a picture in the right of the screen and place it next to a picture in the left of the screen. Thanks for your help malorie --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 14:58:32 2008 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:58:32 -0500 Subject: moving instances with mouse In-Reply-To: <8eb0bdb5-4f8c-4a76-bf1c-218517207f6a@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: i don't think you'll be able to animate this, like dragging and dropping an icon on your desktop, but look in the eprime help file for "HitTest". you could use this HitTest function to click on an item on the screen (an image file, or a TextBox) to select it, then move the mouse cursor to the other side of the screen, click where you want to place the selected item, and redraw the slide showing the object in its new location. hope that helps. HitTest is the key, i think. ben On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:37 AM, malo wrote: > > Hello, > > > I try to make an attractive test for children with E prime and I have > a question: > > Is it possible that the participant moves stimuli with the mouse and > place them at the good place. > Concretely, there are two pictures in the left side of the screen and > two pictures in the right side of the screen. Subject must use the > mouse to select a picture in the right of the screen and place it next > to a picture in the left of the screen. > > Thanks for your help > > > malorie > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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Thanks, Tony Andrews. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Wed Mar 5 16:38:37 2008 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David K McFarlane) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:38:37 -0500 Subject: E-Prime 2.0 cloning, feature comparison In-Reply-To: <4a0990b1-48b9-4061-884c-affe6dce076d@d62g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Tony, > Also, What are the extra features of the Pro version that are alluded > to? Are they really needed in a teaching environment where very little > interfacing is done and most of the time only a very few people > actually create experiments. This has been discussed at some length both on this list and at the PST Forum, you might try searching at http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/eprime.html or http://support.pstnet.com/forum , or try my little essay at http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic914-13-1.aspx . Short answer, in your case I believe the "standard" edition will do fine. Almost nobody needs the advanced features of Pro, however there are some incompatibilities between experiments saved as Pro vs. standard. So just to allow for the widest compatibility between collaborating researchers, I advise all researchers to use Pro, but then to make sure to start writing each new experiment with the standard (not Pro) template. But again, for basic classroom use I don't see any advantage to Pro. -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From debonimalorie at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 18:05:48 2008 From: debonimalorie at gmail.com (malo) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:05:48 -0800 Subject: moving instances with mouse In-Reply-To: <3345e4a50803050658r53bca481uecd09d259a18d841@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks I will try to do this. On 5 mar, 15:58, "ben robinson" wrote: > i don't think you'll be able to animate this, like dragging and dropping an > icon on your desktop, but look in the eprime help file for "HitTest". > > you could use this HitTest function to click on an item on the screen (an > image file, or a TextBox) to select it, then move the mouse cursor to the > other side of the screen, click where you want to place the selected item, > and redraw the slide showing the object in its new location. > > hope that helps. ?HitTest is the key, i think. > > ben > > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:37 AM, malo wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I try to make an attractive test for children with E prime and I have > > a question: > > > Is it possible that the participant moves stimuli with the mouse and > > place them at the good place. > > Concretely, there are two pictures in the left side of the screen and > > two pictures in the right side of the screen. 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To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From nkonstantinou at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 13:14:18 2008 From: nkonstantinou at gmail.com (Nikos Konstantinou) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:14:18 +0000 Subject: Problem with huge list Message-ID: Dear E-prime group, I 'd appreciate any help on this issue: I created an experiment which has two tasks. Task 1: participants hear over the headphones either two or six digits which they have to remember until the end of the trial. At the end of the trial, they see a single probe digit (visual this time) on the screen, which matches one of digits they heard at the beggining of the trial 50% of the times. One way of doing it is something like this: Weight Digit1 Digit2 Digit3 Digit4 Digit5 Digit6 ProbeDigit 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:0] 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:1] 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:2] 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:3] 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:4] 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:5] 6 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:6] A problem with this solution is that it results in a huge list of rows, one for every possible compination. Although the experiment is working this way, I believe there is an easier and "smarter" way of doing this. Maybe using and InLine? Anybody can help? 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URL: From keidel at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 13:48:42 2008 From: keidel at gmail.com (James Keidel) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:48:42 +0000 Subject: Problem with huge list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hi NIkos yes, indeed there should be an easier way to do this with an inline. to get you started, basically your list only needs one row I think, with attributes in place of values as you have in your email. you then have a script which creates an array of integers, 0-9. you then call RandomizeArray and take the first 5 entries from the randomized version. half the time you set the probe digit to one of the digits from the first five, the other half you take the 6th entry in the randomized array and make that the probe. One drawback here is that there is no guarantee you won't have a duplicate trial in there, but if that is a concern you can generate all the trials before starting then run through them in a script to ensure there are no duplicates. I think it is extremely unlikely this would happen though. hope this helps you get started; feel free to email me if you get stuck at all. best JK On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Nikos Konstantinou wrote: > Dear E-prime group, > > I 'd appreciate any help on this issue: > > I created an experiment which has two tasks. Task 1: participants hear over > the headphones either two or six digits which they have to remember until > the end of the trial. At the end of the trial, they see a single probe digit > (visual this time) on the screen, which matches one of digits they heard at > the beggining of the trial 50% of the times. > > One way of doing it is something like this: > > Weight Digit1 Digit2 Digit3 Digit4 Digit5 Digit6 > ProbeDigit > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > [ProbeDigit:0] > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > [ProbeDigit:1] > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > [ProbeDigit:2] > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > [ProbeDigit:3] > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > [ProbeDigit:4] > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > [ProbeDigit:5] > 6 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > [ProbeDigit:6] > > A problem with this solution is that it results in a huge list of rows, one > for every possible compination. > Although the experiment is working this way, I believe there is an easier > and "smarter" way of doing this. Maybe using and InLine? > > Anybody can help? > > Thanks in advance, > > Nikos > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 14:44:59 2008 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 09:44:59 -0500 Subject: Problem with huge list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: if i understand correctly, your list object should really only need four rows: one row for a trial that presents two digits, neither of which is the probe one for a trial that presents two digits, one of which is the probe and one each for valid and invalid 6 digit trials. then you just need to nest a list or two into this main list... maybe have one nested list with all the possible number combinations for a 6 digit trial, and one with the possibilities for a 2 digit trial. obviously, the nested list with the 6 digit possibilities only needs to be nested on the two rows from which you're calling 6 digit trials, and the nested list of 2 digit possibilities only needs to be nested on the rows which are calling your 2 digit trials. set those nested lists to random w/o replacement, and set the weights on your 4 trial types within your main list such that you are sure to sample all the trial types from the nested lists. does that make sense? ben On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Nikos Konstantinou wrote: > Dear E-prime group, > > I 'd appreciate any help on this issue: > > I created an experiment which has two tasks. Task 1: participants hear > over the headphones either two or six digits which they have to remember > until the end of the trial. At the end of the trial, they see a single probe > digit (visual this time) on the screen, which matches one of digits they > heard at the beggining of the trial 50% of the times. > > One way of doing it is something like this: > > Weight Digit1 Digit2 Digit3 Digit4 Digit5 Digit6 > ProbeDigit > 1 > [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:0] > 1 > [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:1] > 1 > [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:2] > 1 > [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:3] > 1 > [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:4] > 1 > [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:5] > 6 > [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] [ProbeDigit:6] > > A problem with this solution is that it results in a huge list of rows, > one for every possible compination. > Although the experiment is working this way, I believe there is an easier > and "smarter" way of doing this. Maybe using and InLine? > > Anybody can help? > Thanks in advance, > > Nikos > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nkonstantinou at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 15:11:02 2008 From: nkonstantinou at gmail.com (Nikos Konstantinou) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:11:02 +0000 Subject: Problem with huge list In-Reply-To: <1d773a4d0803060548udbac3d0kb9d620cbb5553a11@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi James, Thanks for the quick reply. I will try to do that using the User Guide. I will let you know. Thanks a lot! Cheers, N On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:48 PM, James Keidel wrote: > > hi NIkos > > yes, indeed there should be an easier way to do this with an inline. > to get you started, basically your list only needs one row I think, > with attributes in place of values as you have in your email. > > you then have a script which creates an array of integers, 0-9. you > then call RandomizeArray and take the first 5 entries from the > randomized version. half the time you set the probe digit to one of > the digits from the first five, the other half you take the 6th entry > in the randomized array and make that the probe. One drawback here is > that there is no guarantee you won't have a duplicate trial in there, > but if that is a concern you can generate all the trials before > starting then run through them in a script to ensure there are no > duplicates. I think it is extremely unlikely this would happen > though. > > hope this helps you get started; feel free to email me if you get stuck at > all. > > best > > JK > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Nikos Konstantinou > wrote: > > Dear E-prime group, > > > > I 'd appreciate any help on this issue: > > > > I created an experiment which has two tasks. Task 1: participants hear > over > > the headphones either two or six digits which they have to remember > until > > the end of the trial. At the end of the trial, they see a single probe > digit > > (visual this time) on the screen, which matches one of digits they heard > at > > the beggining of the trial 50% of the times. > > > > One way of doing it is something like this: > > > > Weight Digit1 Digit2 Digit3 Digit4 Digit5 Digit6 > > ProbeDigit > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:0] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:1] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:2] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:3] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:4] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:5] > > 6 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:6] > > > > A problem with this solution is that it results in a huge list of rows, > one > > for every possible compination. > > Although the experiment is working this way, I believe there is an > easier > > and "smarter" way of doing this. Maybe using and InLine? > > > > Anybody can help? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Nikos > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nkonstantinou at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 15:25:27 2008 From: nkonstantinou at gmail.com (Nikos Konstantinou) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:25:27 +0000 Subject: Problem with huge list In-Reply-To: <1d773a4d0803060548udbac3d0kb9d620cbb5553a11@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If this is the script to create and randomize an array: Dim Probe (9) As Integer Probe(0) = 0 Probe(1) = 1 Probe(2) = 2 Probe(3) = 3 Probe(4) = 4 Probe(5) = 5 Probe(6) = 6 Probe(7) = 7 Probe(8) = 8 Probe(9) = 9 RandomizeArray Probe how do you " set the probe digit to one of the digits from the first five, the other half you take the 6th entry in the randomized array and make that the probe" ? Could you provide an example? I appreciate your response! Best N On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:48 PM, James Keidel wrote: > > hi NIkos > > yes, indeed there should be an easier way to do this with an inline. > to get you started, basically your list only needs one row I think, > with attributes in place of values as you have in your email. > > you then have a script which creates an array of integers, 0-9. you > then call RandomizeArray and take the first 5 entries from the > randomized version. half the time you set the probe digit to one of > the digits from the first five, the other half you take the 6th entry > in the randomized array and make that the probe. One drawback here is > that there is no guarantee you won't have a duplicate trial in there, > but if that is a concern you can generate all the trials before > starting then run through them in a script to ensure there are no > duplicates. I think it is extremely unlikely this would happen > though. > > hope this helps you get started; feel free to email me if you get stuck at > all. > > best > > JK > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Nikos Konstantinou > wrote: > > Dear E-prime group, > > > > I 'd appreciate any help on this issue: > > > > I created an experiment which has two tasks. Task 1: participants hear > over > > the headphones either two or six digits which they have to remember > until > > the end of the trial. At the end of the trial, they see a single probe > digit > > (visual this time) on the screen, which matches one of digits they heard > at > > the beggining of the trial 50% of the times. > > > > One way of doing it is something like this: > > > > Weight Digit1 Digit2 Digit3 Digit4 Digit5 Digit6 > > ProbeDigit > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:0] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:1] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:2] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:3] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:4] > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:5] > > 6 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > [ProbeDigit:6] > > > > A problem with this solution is that it results in a huge list of rows, > one > > for every possible compination. > > Although the experiment is working this way, I believe there is an > easier > > and "smarter" way of doing this. Maybe using and InLine? > > > > Anybody can help? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Nikos > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keidel at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 18:18:23 2008 From: keidel at gmail.com (James Keidel) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 18:18:23 +0000 Subject: Problem with huge list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: this will have to be done in pseudocode because I have totally forgotten eprime syntax and am not on a win machine at the moment: Dim Probe (9) As Integer for i from 0 to 9 Digits(i) = i end for for i from 1 to numberOfRows RandomizeArray Digits for i from 0 to 4 List1.setAtrrib(row num, digit_i%, Digits(i%)) endfor ' now if it is a trial where the target is in the nums presented if (something) List1.setAtrrib(row num, , Digits(i% + 1)) else pick a random # from 0-4, assign it to some int r% List1.setAtrrib(row num, , Digits(%r)) end if end for hope that helps look in the e-basic manual for the syntax for setting an attribute in a list. oh, and also, you should add the rows to your list in the script as well-- do that with a for loop from 2 to the number of Rows (since row 1 already exists) then fill up those rows with the above script and you're off. the way to add rows will also be on the e-basic manual page for the List Object. JK > > how do you " set the probe digit to one of the digits from the first five, > the other half you take the 6th entry in the randomized array and make that > the probe" ? > > Could you provide an example? > > I appreciate your response! > > Best > > N > > > > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:48 PM, James Keidel wrote: > > > > > > hi NIkos > > > > yes, indeed there should be an easier way to do this with an inline. > > to get you started, basically your list only needs one row I think, > > with attributes in place of values as you have in your email. > > > > you then have a script which creates an array of integers, 0-9. you > > then call RandomizeArray and take the first 5 entries from the > > randomized version. half the time you set the probe digit to one of > > the digits from the first five, the other half you take the 6th entry > > in the randomized array and make that the probe. One drawback here is > > that there is no guarantee you won't have a duplicate trial in there, > > but if that is a concern you can generate all the trials before > > starting then run through them in a script to ensure there are no > > duplicates. I think it is extremely unlikely this would happen > > though. > > > > hope this helps you get started; feel free to email me if you get stuck at > all. > > > > best > > > > JK > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Nikos Konstantinou > > wrote: > > > Dear E-prime group, > > > > > > I 'd appreciate any help on this issue: > > > > > > I created an experiment which has two tasks. Task 1: participants hear > over > > > the headphones either two or six digits which they have to remember > until > > > the end of the trial. At the end of the trial, they see a single probe > digit > > > (visual this time) on the screen, which matches one of digits they heard > at > > > the beggining of the trial 50% of the times. > > > > > > One way of doing it is something like this: > > > > > > Weight Digit1 Digit2 Digit3 Digit4 Digit5 Digit6 > > > ProbeDigit > > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > > [ProbeDigit:0] > > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > > [ProbeDigit:1] > > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > > [ProbeDigit:2] > > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > > [ProbeDigit:3] > > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > > [ProbeDigit:4] > > > 1 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > > [ProbeDigit:5] > > > 6 [Digit:0] [Digit:1] [Digit:2] [Digit:3] [Digit:4] [Digit:5] > > > [ProbeDigit:6] > > > > > > A problem with this solution is that it results in a huge list of rows, > one > > > for every possible compination. > > > Although the experiment is working this way, I believe there is an > easier > > > and "smarter" way of doing this. Maybe using and InLine? > > > > > > Anybody can help? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Nikos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From tony.andrews at gmail.com Fri Mar 7 10:09:17 2008 From: tony.andrews at gmail.com (Andrews, A.S.) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 02:09:17 -0800 Subject: E-Prime 2.0 cloning, feature comparison In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you for your replies and links, David. I think the standard version on a site licence may be suitable but being able to ghost images would be a huge time saver for us, and it is still not yet clear if this is possible. Regards, Tony. On Mar 5, 4:38?pm, "David K McFarlane" wrote: > Tony, > > > Also, What are the extra features of the Pro version that are alluded > > to? Are they really needed in a teaching environment where very little > > interfacing is done and most of the time only a very few people > > actually create experiments. > > This has been discussed at some length both on this list and at the PST > Forum, you might try searching athttp://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/eprime.htmlorhttp://support.pstnet.com/forum, or try my little essay athttp://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic914-13-1.aspx. > > Short answer, in your case I believe the "standard" edition will do fine. ? > Almost nobody needs the advanced features of Pro, however there are some > incompatibilities between experiments saved as Pro vs. standard. ?So just to > allow for the widest compatibility between collaborating researchers, I > advise all researchers to use Pro, but then to make sure to start writing > each new experiment with the standard (not Pro) template. ?But again, for > basic classroom use I don't see any advantage to Pro. > > ?-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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On the "Echo"-tab, you add a Display, for which you can edit the settings (font etc.) as well. Good luck! Helen. On 3/7/08, Marco wrote: > > Dear list, > > I have a specific question regarding the use of e-prime. Is it possible to > let participants type in the response (a whole word, or sentence), and to > present the next stimulus once the participant presses the ENTER button? > Further, is it possible to show the participant what he/she is typing, on > the screen (while typing)? Thanks in advance! > > Marco van de Ven > > > > -- "I had a beautiful signature in those days, intricate, oriental, illegible, with a mighty slashing underscore, a signature more complex than that of the great Hackmuth." --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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For example: Block1Feedback.States.Item("Default").Objects.Add Block1Feedback_SlideText, "Text8" E.G., I have problem with "Text8" in the slide named Block1Feedback, as indicated by the script. So I changed the name of one of the text 8, and the problem solved. I think probably this occured because I like to copy the sub-objects directly from other slides which have the same sub-objects to avoid typing the same words/contents again. Thank you very much. :) 2008/3/4, David McFarlane <mcfarla9 at msu.edu>: [Replying off list...] Just a wild guess, it looks like somehow E-Prime thinks you are trying to create two slide sub-objects with the same name. E-Studio should catch that before you get to run-time, but that's my best guess for the error. If it were me, I would first make a backup of the existing .es file. Then I would completely rebuild the offending slide object from scratch, and delete the old one, and see if that makes any difference. Good luck. -- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University At 3/4/2008 02:58 AM Tuesday, you wrote: >I tried to run the program after doing some modifications on several >slides, but failed to do so. >the error message is: > >Run-time Error (Line 2054) >10033: This key is already associated with an element of this >collection > >I found the line where the error occurs, but failed to figure out what >the problem is. > >For example: >The script is: >Block1Feedback.States.Item("Default").Objects.Add >Block1Feedback_SlideText, "Text8" > >I checked the setting and property of the "text8", but found that it's >the same as other texts in this slide. I tried to delete this >particular text, and add in a new one. The problem remains unsolved. >May I know what is the problem, and how to solve it? > >P.s. I used some slides instead of text displays to better align the >texts. >I have totally 11 texts in the slides. Most contents are the same in >the slides I modified. And everytime after I deleted the error texts, >I would find another text with the same error in the next run. -- Best Regards, ?x???? Ang Mei San --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From valentinosz at gmail.com Fri Mar 7 18:03:42 2008 From: valentinosz at gmail.com (Valentinos) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:03:42 -0800 Subject: RT to moving the mouse/Joystick cursor away from a fixation point Message-ID: Hello, I am trying to run an experiment that involves the following: I have two slide objects. The first slide object has a fixation point in the center and 8 images arranged around that fixation point in a circle. During this slide participants are asked to put the joystick/ mouse cursor on top of the fixation point and wait. The second slide is the Stimulus slide. The second slide is exactly the same as the previous one, but one of those 8 images in the circle has now been replaced by a movie object (e-prime 2). To the participant it appears that one of the images from the previous slide has just started moving. Once the participants see that they are required to move the cursor away from fixation and onto one specific area of the movie. The experiment runs fine but I am having difficulty making e-prime record the reaction time from the beginning of the second slide (the stimulus) to when the participant moves the joystick/mouse away from the center fixation point. This is different from the RT to pressing a button on the movie, which is easily done by e-prime. The main problem lies that the code that controls the RT to moving the mouse/joystick is placed in an in-line object after the stimulus, which implies that it will not run until after the stimulus object. At the same time I cannot use the Duration=0 trick to run the In-line at the same time as the stimulus, because then the stimulus object (slide 2) will not appear at all. Does anyone know how to get the coordinates of the position of the cursor from an inline object referring to the joystick/ mouse motions in a slide object while it is running and without pressing any buttons. At this moment I can get the coordinates of the cursor but only after a response was made, ie the subject has pressed a button which makes sense since once a response is made the inline runs and it just gets the last known coordinates of the mouse/joystick from the slide object once the response was made. 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URL: From nmaxfiel at cas.usf.edu Mon Mar 10 21:08:33 2008 From: nmaxfiel at cas.usf.edu (Maxfield) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:08:33 -0700 Subject: null response question Message-ID: I'm running a go/nogo task, and would like Eprime to score accuracy (ACC) as it usually does. Things are working just fine for my "go" trials. However, I'm running into a problem on "nogo" trials. Since no response is logged (no button press), I have included zeros in my "correct response" column, but Eprime scores these as error trials. I've also tried leaving the "correct answer" cells blank for "nogo" trials, but the outcome is the same. Any advice on how I can get Eprime to treat correct "nogo" trials (null responses) as correct? Thanks in advance, Nathan from Tampa --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From cblais at berkeley.edu Tue Mar 11 01:17:15 2008 From: cblais at berkeley.edu (Chris Blais) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:17:15 -0700 Subject: null response question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Are you sure you left it blank and not " "? I've done it before and it's worked fine. I can send you the script if you'd like. > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Maxfield > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:09 PM > To: E-Prime > Subject: null response question > > > I'm running a go/nogo task, and would like Eprime to score accuracy > (ACC) as it usually does. Things are working just fine for my "go" > trials. However, I'm running into a problem on "nogo" trials. Since > no response is logged (no button press), I have included zeros in my > "correct response" column, but Eprime scores these as error trials. > I've also tried leaving the "correct answer" cells blank for "nogo" > trials, but the outcome is the same. Any advice on how I can get > Eprime to treat correct "nogo" trials (null responses) as correct? > > Thanks in advance, > Nathan from Tampa > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From elmar2009 at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 21:16:27 2008 From: elmar2009 at gmail.com (elmar2009 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:16:27 -0400 Subject: "Null" question Message-ID: Hello, I am trying to get my E-prime data ready for data analysis but right now I am confused. When I merge my data and go to E-data aid, many variable columns say "NULL". These happen to be all the demographic questions. In these questions we asked such questions as press "1" if you are a male and "2" if female; press "1" if you are White, "2" if you are Black, etc. I've noted that the .edad file also has "Null" in those columns. I went back and looked at the text files. There are responses to those questions for the students meaning students did press a key to answer those questions. What am I doing wrong? Why do I keep getting "Null" instead of the actual responses? If anyone has any suggestions, i would much appreciate them. Thanks, Francine --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From cblais at berkeley.edu Tue Mar 11 21:31:08 2008 From: cblais at berkeley.edu (Chris Blais) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:31:08 -0700 Subject: "Null" question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Did you setup an inline like: if you pressed 1 then c.setAttrib "sex", "male" elseif you pressed 2 then c.setAttrib "sex", "female" end if Note: c.setAttrib is the important part. Also, did you look for that info on the trial for which it was asked (probably near the beginning)? They may not fill the column like "subject" or "session". > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of elmar2009 at gmail.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:16 PM > To: e-prime at googlegroups.com > Subject: "Null" question > > > Hello, > > I am trying to get my E-prime data ready for data analysis but right > now I am confused. When I merge my data and go to E-data aid, many > variable columns say "NULL". These happen to be all the demographic > questions. In these questions we asked such questions as press "1" if > you are a male and "2" if female; press "1" if you are White, "2" if > you are Black, etc. I've noted that the .edad file also has "Null" in > those columns. I went back and looked at the text files. There are > responses to those questions for the students meaning students did > press a key to answer those questions. > > What am I doing wrong? Why do I keep getting "Null" instead of the > actual responses? > > If anyone has any suggestions, i would much appreciate them. > > Thanks, > Francine > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From debonimalorie at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 14:43:50 2008 From: debonimalorie at gmail.com (malo) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:43:50 -0700 Subject: in line command Message-ID: Hello, I'm trying to write an in line object but it doesn't work Here is the part of in line that must be wrong: in fact I want to implement a button for replacing the object at the initial place (goto RedoTrial) and another "end" button to go to the record the response and go to the next trial. If strHit = "EndObject" Then c.SetAttrib "OverallRT", Clock.Read - lnStartTime Goto EndInput End If Else If strHit = "Image3" Then Goto RedoTrial End If Can you help me? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From hftibboel at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 14:54:51 2008 From: hftibboel at gmail.com (Helen Tibboel) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:54:51 +0100 Subject: in line command In-Reply-To: <26d0e020-5e1f-4fb3-94f7-884ff91eb7c7@m34g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hello, I think the problem is that you write "End if" just before "Else". If you want to use "If.. then.. else"-statements, it should probably look something like this: If strHit = "EndObject" Then c.SetAttrib "OverallRT", Clock.Read - lnStartTime Goto EndInput ElseIf strHit = "Image3" Then Goto RedoTrial End If I hope this helps. Kind regards, Helen. On 3/12/08, malo wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I'm trying to write an in line object but it doesn't work > Here is the part of in line that must be wrong: in fact I want to > implement a button for replacing the object at the initial place (goto > RedoTrial) and another "end" button to go to the record the response > and go to the next trial. > > If strHit = "EndObject" Then > c.SetAttrib "OverallRT", Clock.Read - lnStartTime > Goto EndInput > End If > > Else > > If strHit = "Image3" Then > Goto RedoTrial > End If > > > Can you help me? > > > > -- "I had a beautiful signature in those days, intricate, oriental, illegible, with a mighty slashing underscore, a signature more complex than that of the great Hackmuth." --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From debonimalorie at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 15:04:02 2008 From: debonimalorie at gmail.com (malo) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:04:02 -0700 Subject: in line command In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have just tried but I doesn't work On 12 mar, 15:54, "Helen Tibboel" wrote: > Hello, > I think the problem is that you write "End if" just before "Else". If you > want to use "If.. then.. else"-statements, it should probably look something > like this: > > If strHit = "EndObject" Then > ? ?c.SetAttrib "OverallRT", Clock.Read - lnStartTime > ? ?Goto EndInput > ElseIf strHit = "Image3" Then > ? ?Goto RedoTrial > End If > > I hope this helps. > Kind regards, > Helen. > > On 3/12/08, malo wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > I'm trying to write an in line object but it doesn't work > > Here is the part of in line that must be wrong: in fact I want to > > implement a button for replacing the object at the initial place (goto > > RedoTrial) and another "end" button to go to the record the response > > and go to the next trial. > > > If strHit = "EndObject" Then > > c.SetAttrib "OverallRT", Clock.Read - lnStartTime > > Goto EndInput > > End If > > > Else > > > If strHit = "Image3" Then > > Goto RedoTrial > > End If > > > Can you help me? > > -- > "I had a beautiful signature in those days, intricate, oriental, illegible, > with a mighty slashing underscore, a signature more complex than that of the > great Hackmuth."- Masquer le texte des messages pr?c?dents - > > - Afficher le texte des messages pr?c?dents - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From debonimalorie at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 15:12:44 2008 From: debonimalorie at gmail.com (malo) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:12:44 -0700 Subject: in line command In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In fact the command for replacing object at their initial place works but when I click on the endOject the following message appear: Run-time Error (Line 616) 91: Object variable or With block variable not set And the refered line is here: If Err.Number = ebInputAccepted Then Err.Clear Resume EndReleaseResume ElseIf Err.Number <> 0 Then 'NOTE: If you receive a runtime error here, it ' is because a runtime error other than ebInputAccepted ' was thrown (ebInputAccepted for catching input masks that jump). 'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up ' your own error handler, which will also need to take ' into account for any input masks that jump. ' 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the message Err.Raise Err.Number End If EndReleaseResume: '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ' Label - EndRelease END Thanks for your help On 12 mar, 16:04, malo wrote: > I have just tried but I doesn't work > > On 12 mar, 15:54, "Helen Tibboel" wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > I think the problem is that you write "End if" just before "Else". If you > > want to use "If.. then.. else"-statements, it should probably look something > > like this: > > > If strHit = "EndObject" Then > > ? ?c.SetAttrib "OverallRT", Clock.Read - lnStartTime > > ? ?Goto EndInput > > ElseIf strHit = "Image3" Then > > ? ?Goto RedoTrial > > End If > > > I hope this helps. > > Kind regards, > > Helen. > > > On 3/12/08, malo wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm trying to write an in line object but it doesn't work > > > Here is the part of in line that must be wrong: in fact I want to > > > implement a button for replacing the object at the initial place (goto > > > RedoTrial) and another "end" button to go to the record the response > > > and go to the next trial. > > > > If strHit = "EndObject" Then > > > c.SetAttrib "OverallRT", Clock.Read - lnStartTime > > > Goto EndInput > > > End If > > > > Else > > > > If strHit = "Image3" Then > > > Goto RedoTrial > > > End If > > > > Can you help me? > > > -- > > "I had a beautiful signature in those days, intricate, oriental, illegible, > > with a mighty slashing underscore, a signature more complex than that of the > > great Hackmuth."- Masquer le texte des messages pr?c?dents - > > > - Afficher le texte des messages pr?c?dents -- Masquer le texte des messages pr?c?dents - > > - Afficher le texte des messages pr?c?dents - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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So, if the pairs of pictures are similar, accuracy will be 1. Can you help me to make the inline? I think the problem is in this part but I'm not sure: 'Each "Drag" object is named "Drag" followed by the corresponding picture. 'This Mid function will return only the picture portion of the name '(i.e., "[Stim1]",or "[Stim2]"). c.SetAttrib "Goal1Response", Mid(strDrag, 5, Len(strDrag) - 4) If c.GetAttrib("Goal1Response") = c.GetAttrib("topface") Then boolGoal1 = True End If ElseIf nCountGoal = 2 Then c.SetAttrib "Goal2Response", Mid(strDrag, 5, Len(strDrag) - 4) If c.GetAttrib("Goal2Response") = c.GetAttrib("bottomface") Then boolGoal2 = True Thanks Malorie --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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Do Select Case SlideX.TimeLimit - (Clock.Read - SlideX.OnsetTime) Case 9995 to 10005 c.SetAttribAtSource "Remaining", 10 Case 8885 to 9005 c.SetAttribAtSource "Remaining", 9 Case... Case 995 to 1005 c.SetAttribAtSource "Remaining", 1 End Select Loop While Clock.Read - SlideX.OnsetTime < SlideX.TimeLimit this is just a guess. let me know if it works. ben On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Joseph Williams < josephjaywilliams at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, I'd like to be able to display how much time participants have left to > make a response- e.g. a textobject on a slide that appears when there are > 10 seconds left, and counts down from 10 to 0. Does anyone have any ideas on > how to implement this? > > Thanks, > > Joseph > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:24 AM, malo wrote: > > Hi all, > > > When I run my script, I have the following message: > > Run-time Error (Line 618) > 91: Object variable or With block variable not set > > and it is referred to this line: > If Err.Number = ebInputAccepted Then > Err.Clear > Resume EndReleaseResume > ElseIf Err.Number <> 0 Then > 'NOTE: If you receive a runtime error here, it > ' is because a runtime error other than ebInputAccepted > ' was thrown (ebInputAccepted for catching input masks that > jump). > 'You are encouraged to either handle the error so that > ' it is not thrown in the future or will have to set up > ' your own error handler, which will also need to take > ' into account for any input masks that jump. > ' > 'Raise the error so the default error handler will show the > message > Err.Raise Err.Number > End If > > EndReleaseResume: > > After the stimulus, I have an inline (dohittest), a collect release > object, an inline (moveobject), a label (endrelease), an inline (jump > back), a label (EndInput) and an in line (check accuracy) > > Could you give me an idea of the problem? > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Tue Mar 18 19:26:07 2008 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:26:07 -0400 Subject: Windows Vista In-Reply-To: <9d464f61-71bf-440e-8f38-3382fb048bd9@d4g2000prg.googlegrou ps.com> Message-ID: Pedro, >I would like to ask the Forum if the E-prime works fine with Windows Vista. >Will only the E-Prime 2.0 or 2.0 Pro will work with Windows Vista or >other older E-Prime versions, like 1.1 will work as well also? Thanks for asking. I have run both EP2, "standard" and Pro, and EP1.2 under Vista. This is on a deveopment system, I'm not sure that I would recommend Vista for running experiments. EP2 under Vista gives us frequent "sound timed out" errors even in the middle of experiment runs, don't know if the problem is EP2 or Vista (PST has not responded to our request yet). The one problem I had running EP1.2 under Vista was the SRBox driver, but once I installed the SRBox driver from EP2 it also worked with EP1.2. Also, RefreshClockTest shows significant errors on my machine, but I don't know if that's a problem with Vista or just that I have never tuned my machine for EP. So EP2 standard/Pro & EP1.2 under Vista are good enough for my development system, and we will have to hear from others about using this setup for running experiments. David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From Jennifer.M.Walz at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 20:18:56 2008 From: Jennifer.M.Walz at gmail.com (jennifer) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:18:56 -0700 Subject: minimum duration for inter-trial interval Message-ID: I am fairly new to E-Prime and am looking for some help in setting up my experiment. I need the ITI during which the subject responds to have both a minimum and maximum duration and to terminate when the subject responds. To clarify: the ITI text display should terminate upon receiving an input from the subject; however, if the subject responds before 500 ms the ITI duration should equal 500 ms, and if the subject does not respond within 700 ms, the ITI should terminate at 700 ms. Can anyone offer some advice? I assume I will need to write some code but I don't know where to begin. Thank you!! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From DLindenbach at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 23:29:11 2008 From: DLindenbach at gmail.com (DLindenbach at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:29:11 -0700 Subject: Error 10: Data file did not convert Message-ID: Hello, Everytime I run a particular program, I get an error after the session procedure is done. The system says "the datafile did not convert" "error occured reading text file - unexpected end of file... Error Number: 10". The line given is the line after the last line in the e- prime text file. It seems to be an error converting the text file to an EDAT file. Any suggestions? Thanks --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From andersony3k at yahoo.com Thu Mar 20 02:04:52 2008 From: andersony3k at yahoo.com (Richard Anderson) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:04:52 -0700 Subject: Error 10: Data file did not convert Message-ID: I believe you will get this error if you have the data file open (in e-dataaid) while trying to run the experiment. - Richard Anderson ----- Original Message ---- From: "DLindenbach at gmail.com" To: E-Prime Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:29:11 PM Subject: Error 10: Data file did not convert Hello, Everytime I run a particular program, I get an error after the session procedure is done. The system says "the datafile did not convert" "error occured reading text file - unexpected end of file... Error Number: 10". The line given is the line after the last line in the e- prime text file. It seems to be an error converting the text file to an EDAT file. Any suggestions? Thanks ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DLindenbach at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 05:36:30 2008 From: DLindenbach at gmail.com (DLindenbach at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:36:30 -0700 Subject: Error 10: Data file did not convert In-Reply-To: <560710.56583.qm@web31814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks for your reply Richard, but I don't have the e-dataaid file open. Other e-prime scripts work, but not this one. I'm terribly vexed. Cheers On Mar 19, 7:04 pm, Richard Anderson wrote: > I believe you will get this error if you have the data file open (in e-dataaid) while trying to run the experiment. > > - Richard Anderson > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "DLindenb... at gmail.com" > To: E-Prime > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:29:11 PM > Subject: Error 10: Data file did not convert > > Hello, > Everytime I run a particular program, I get an error after the session > procedure is done. The system says "the datafile did not convert" > "error occured reading text file - unexpected end of file... Error > Number: 10". The line given is the line after the last line in the e- > prime text file. It seems to be an error converting the text file to > an EDAT file. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 11:47:20 2008 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:47:20 -0400 Subject: Error 10: Data file did not convert In-Reply-To: <9b9b4eb9-023e-415f-8883-bfc1226982bd@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: are you running the script from the e-run file, or from the e-studio file? maybe your e-run file got corrupted, and the last line got deleted somehow... all i can think of. if you're running from the e-run file, check some other e-run files to see if, maybe, they all have something specific at the end of the file, that this uncooperative file of yours might be missing. On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:36 AM, wrote: > > Thanks for your reply Richard, but I don't have the e-dataaid file > open. Other e-prime scripts work, but not this one. I'm terribly > vexed. > > Cheers > > On Mar 19, 7:04 pm, Richard Anderson wrote: > > I believe you will get this error if you have the data file open (in > e-dataaid) while trying to run the experiment. > > > > - Richard Anderson > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: "DLindenb... at gmail.com" > > To: E-Prime > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:29:11 PM > > Subject: Error 10: Data file did not convert > > > > Hello, > > Everytime I run a particular program, I get an error after the session > > procedure is done. The system says "the datafile did not convert" > > "error occured reading text file - unexpected end of file... Error > > Number: 10". The line given is the line after the last line in the e- > > prime text file. It seems to be an error converting the text file to > > an EDAT file. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From dutch.linguistics at gmail.com Wed Mar 26 11:05:46 2008 From: dutch.linguistics at gmail.com (Marco) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:05:46 +0100 Subject: e-prime viewer? Message-ID: Dear all, Does anyone of you know whether there is an e-prime viewer or anything of the sort? It would be reasonable to distribute a freely available viewer that doesn't allow you to save responses, which can be used to show your experiment to other experimenters. Regards, Marco --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tiburona at gmail.com Wed Mar 26 22:02:45 2008 From: tiburona at gmail.com (tiburona) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:02:45 -0700 Subject: Windows Vista In-Reply-To: <47e01758.24f8720a.4e53.6348SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: David, Just to clarify, you would recommend running E-Prime on XP rather than Vista, because it is buggy on Vista? We are buying new machines and deciding whether to get them loaded with XP or Vista. It's apparently no longer possible to get the sound card PST says it recommends (here: http://www.pstnet.com/products/e-prime/#require) on an XP machine, only with Vista. Thank you, Katie On Mar 18, 3:26 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > Pedro, > > >I would like to ask the Forum if the E-prime works fine with WindowsVista. > >Will only the E-Prime 2.0 or 2.0 Pro will work with WindowsVistaor > >other older E-Prime versions, like 1.1 will work as well also? > > Thanks for asking. I have run both EP2, "standard" and Pro, and > EP1.2 underVista. This is on a deveopment system, I'm not sure that > I would recommendVistafor running experiments. EP2 underVista > gives us frequent "sound timed out" errors even in the middle of > experiment runs, don't know if the problem is EP2 orVista(PST has > not responded to our request yet). The one problem I had running > EP1.2 underVistawas the SRBox driver, but once I installed the > SRBox driver from EP2 it also worked with EP1.2. Also, > RefreshClockTest shows significant errors on my machine, but I don't > know if that's a problem withVistaor just that I have never tuned > my machine for EP. > > So EP2 standard/Pro & EP1.2 underVistaare good enough for my > development system, and we will have to hear from others about using > this setup for running experiments. > > David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From pquain at une.edu.au Wed Mar 26 22:11:38 2008 From: pquain at une.edu.au (Peter Quain) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:11:38 +1100 Subject: Windows Vista In-Reply-To: <63dcd8ae-04a0-4a76-b6a5-35886eb6c67b@8g2000hse.googlegroup s.com> Message-ID: don't touch Vista. it will take them years to debug, even a bit. ? Audigy sound cards have XP drivers ... I have 1 in my XP machine. http://au.creative.com/support/downloads/ At 09:02 AM 27/03/2008, you wrote: >David, > >Just to clarify, you would recommend running E-Prime on XP rather than >Vista, because it is buggy on Vista? We are buying new machines and >deciding whether to get them loaded with XP or Vista. It's apparently >no longer possible to get the sound card PST says it recommends (here: >http://www.pstnet.com/products/e-prime/#require) on an XP machine, >only with Vista. > >Thank you, >Katie > >On Mar 18, 3:26 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > > Pedro, > > > > >I would like to ask the Forum if the E-prime works fine with WindowsVista. > > >Will only the E-Prime 2.0 or 2.0 Pro will work with WindowsVistaor > > >other older E-Prime versions, like 1.1 will work as well also? > > > > Thanks for asking. I have run both EP2, "standard" and Pro, and > > EP1.2 underVista. This is on a deveopment system, I'm not sure that > > I would recommendVistafor running experiments. EP2 underVista > > gives us frequent "sound timed out" errors even in the middle of > > experiment runs, don't know if the problem is EP2 orVista(PST has > > not responded to our request yet). The one problem I had running > > EP1.2 underVistawas the SRBox driver, but once I installed the > > SRBox driver from EP2 it also worked with EP1.2. Also, > > RefreshClockTest shows significant errors on my machine, but I don't > > know if that's a problem withVistaor just that I have never tuned > > my machine for EP. > > > > So EP2 standard/Pro & EP1.2 underVistaare good enough for my > > development system, and we will have to hear from others about using > > this setup for running experiments. > > > > David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder >> > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1345 - Release Date: >26/03/2008 6:50 PM > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1345 - Release Date: >26/03/2008 6:50 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1345 - Release Date: 26/03/2008 6:50 PM --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From gregstuarthooper at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 02:44:29 2008 From: gregstuarthooper at gmail.com (gregh) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:44:29 -0700 Subject: concurrent stimuli Message-ID: Hi, I am new to ePrime and would like to know if will be possible to implement the following: I can currently present a continuous stream of sound files - randomised for 4, 6, or 8 sec presentation. At the same time I also want to present a random character every 500ms. There is no need for the timing of this to be tightly coupled to the sound. I see this as two parallel activities with their own individual timing but ePrime seems to be designed to run a single serial stream. Will it be possible to program this in ePrime? thanks for any help, Greg --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From cindygooch at yahoo.com Thu Mar 27 13:18:16 2008 From: cindygooch at yahoo.com (javagirl) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:18:16 -0700 Subject: SoundOut object is sporadic Message-ID: Hi List, new to E-Prime here. I have a program with a block that presents a SoundOut object every trial, same file every time. Some trials it gives the sound, others it doesn't. I have a previous block that presents the same file every trial with no problem. Any ideas on what I could be doing wrong? I can't see a difference between the properties on the two SoundOut objects. Cindy --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From tiburona at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 14:18:00 2008 From: tiburona at gmail.com (tiburona) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:18:00 -0700 Subject: Windows Vista In-Reply-To: <20080326221148.WNPG10679.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@tardis.une.edu.au> Message-ID: Thanks for your reply, Peter. The problem is that Dell, at least on their website, was refusing to let me order an Audigy card with XP, but giving me a little error that said I had to choose Vista if I wanted that sound card. I suppose it's conceivable if I called Dell they could fix me up. Do you have any experience running E-Prime on a Vista machine, or have you heard stories? Do you know of specific problems they ran into, and what version of E-prime they were using? Thanks again, everyone, for all your help. On Mar 26, 6:11 pm, Peter Quain wrote: > don't touchVista. it will take them years to debug, even a bit. > > ? Audigy sound cards have XP drivers ... I have 1 in my XP machine. > > http://au.creative.com/support/downloads/ > > At 09:02 AM 27/03/2008, you wrote: > > > > >David, > > >Just to clarify, you would recommend running E-Prime on XP rather than > >Vista, because it is buggy onVista? We are buying new machines and > >deciding whether to get them loaded with XP orVista. It's apparently > >no longer possible to get the sound card PST says it recommends (here: > >http://www.pstnet.com/products/e-prime/#require) on an XP machine, > >only withVista. > > >Thank you, > >Katie > > >On Mar 18, 3:26 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > > > Pedro, > > > > >I would like to ask the Forum if the E-prime works fine with WindowsVista. > > > >Will only the E-Prime 2.0 or 2.0 Pro will work with WindowsVistaor > > > >other older E-Prime versions, like 1.1 will work as well also? > > > > Thanks for asking. I have run both EP2, "standard" and Pro, and > > > EP1.2 underVista. This is on a deveopment system, I'm not sure that > > > I would recommendVistafor running experiments. EP2 underVista > > > gives us frequent "sound timed out" errors even in the middle of > > > experiment runs, don't know if the problem is EP2 orVista(PST has > > > not responded to our request yet). The one problem I had running > > > EP1.2 underVistawas the SRBox driver, but once I installed the > > > SRBox driver from EP2 it also worked with EP1.2. Also, > > > RefreshClockTest shows significant errors on my machine, but I don't > > > know if that's a problem withVistaor just that I have never tuned > > > my machine for EP. > > > > So EP2 standard/Pro & EP1.2 underVistaare good enough for my > > > development system, and we will have to hear from others about using > > > this setup for running experiments. > > > > David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG. > >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1345 - Release Date: > >26/03/2008 6:50 PM > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG. > >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1345 - Release Date: > >26/03/2008 6:50 PM > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1345 - Release Date: 26/03/2008 6:50 PM --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From DLindenbach at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 17:01:39 2008 From: DLindenbach at gmail.com (DLindenbach at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:01:39 -0700 Subject: Error 10: Data file did not convert In-Reply-To: <3345e4a50803200447m186b4d88vecb7dff89541180b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I found out the problem from e-prime user support. While blocks within the session procedure were set to log data, I apparently had set the session procedure to [b]not[/b] log data, which caused the error. Cheers On Mar 20, 4:47 am, "ben robinson" wrote: > are you running the script from the e-run file, or from the e-studio file? > maybe your e-run file got corrupted, and the last line got deleted > somehow... all i can think of. if you're running from the e-run file, check > some other e-run files to see if, maybe, they all have something specific at > the end of the file, that this uncooperative file of yours might be missing. > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:36 AM, wrote: > > > Thanks for your reply Richard, but I don't have the e-dataaid file > > open. Other e-prime scripts work, but not this one. I'm terribly > > vexed. > > > Cheers > > > On Mar 19, 7:04 pm, Richard Anderson wrote: > > > I believe you will get this error if you have the data file open (in > > e-dataaid) while trying to run the experiment. > > > > - Richard Anderson > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: "DLindenb... at gmail.com" > > > To: E-Prime > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:29:11 PM > > > Subject: Error 10: Data file did not convert > > > > Hello, > > > Everytime I run a particular program, I get an error after the session > > > procedure is done. The system says "the datafile did not convert" > > > "error occured reading text file - unexpected end of file... Error > > > Number: 10". The line given is the line after the last line in the e- > > > prime text file. It seems to be an error converting the text file to > > > an EDAT file. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > >http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From martin.lauterbach at sapo.pt Sun Mar 30 11:34:55 2008 From: martin.lauterbach at sapo.pt (lislog) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 04:34:55 -0700 Subject: Windows Vista In-Reply-To: <9d464f61-71bf-440e-8f38-3382fb048bd9@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Pedro, I had also problems with e-prime 2.0 running on Windows Vista. The slide onset time varies a lot and timeOut errors appears frequently. The support of e-primes thinks that Vista is not the cause for that problem, but I daught. The suggestions to solve the problem did not work. I attach my correspondency with the e-prime support. The same file runs perfectly on Windows XP. I decided to install Windows XP on my new machine, in order to avoid incompatibility problems. All best Martin (lislog) Dear collegues, the experiment attached creates allways the following run time error: the operation to load the sound timed out, error-999, Line 325: Slide1_SoundBuffer.Load. The buffer size is set to 5000 ms and the buffer mode is "streaming". Setting the buffer size higher (e.g.15000 ms) does not resolve anything. What else can I do to avoid the problem? From Matt Lenhart on 1/31/2008 3:18:00 PM Hi Martin, Early versions of E-Prime 2.0 had a number of sound buffering issues. Our developers have attempted to reduce these issues as much as possible. The first step to avoid this error would be to upgrade to the latest version of E-Prime 2.0. This can be done via the following link: E-Prime 2.0 Professional - http://www.pstnet.com/downloads/e-prime/2.0/rc/EP2RC2.0.1.119.exe Note that you will need to uninstall your current version before installing the new one. Please try installing this upgrade and then try running your experiment again. If you continue to have difficulty, please let me know. Please include any error messages you receive. It may also be helpful if you could attach a few of the sound files you are experiencing this problem with. You can attach a single ZIP that contains your files. Please let me know what you find. Sincerely, Matt Lenhart Technical Consultant From Martin Lauterbach on 2/6/2008 11:34:00 AM DLApalNpalSRBox-1-1.edat Dear Matt, I applicated the changes You recommaded, but the problem, continues. The same file runs on another labtop without any problem. The only difference is that the labtop with problem runs on a Windows Vista OS, the other on WindowsXP OS. In the E-prime data file the onset delays for the slide vary in an inordenate manner. I attach the file. I was trying to change the timing mode from event to cumulative without any success. Do you have any further suggestions? best Martin From Matt Lenhart on 2/11/2008 9:28:00 AM Hi Martin, The different operating systems between the two laptops should not cause any kind of conflict with sound presentation. We have tested and confirmed that E-Prime 2.0 is fully compatible on both. However, there may be some small hardware differences between the machines that is causing an error when the sound is being loaded. This problem is a little difficult to diagnose and address, and our developers are working to do so in future builds of E-Prime 2.0. You will be able to download future builds via the "Download" section of this support site. In regards to the onset delay issue you are having in the data file you attached, a Sound.LoadFactor attribute is available in E-Prime 2.0 that will allow you to alter the way sounds are loaded. This can drastically improve performance. To set the value of this attribute, place an InLine at the start of the SessionProc and enter: c.SetAttrib "Sound.LoadFactor", 100 The value sent (i.e., 100 in this example) can be any number between 1-100. If 100 does not improve the issue, you can try other numbers. If you are running on a dual-core machine, values 5 or lower may improve things more than 100. You may also want to try setting the Sound.LoadFactor attribute on the Vista machine to see if this assists with avoiding the error message you are receiving. Please let me know what you find. Matt From Martin Lauterbach on 2/21/2008 6:58:00 AM Dear Matt, I did the changes you recommended, but infortunately it did not solve the problem. The onset time of the sound file continues to vary a lot and the buffer exceeds easily its capacity. As you recommanded, I tried various values for the Sound.LoadFactor, with no essential differences between the settings. I do not know how to change the Sound.LoadFactor on my computer. Where should I introduce the changes? Or should I report the problem to Toshiba (my computer is a Tecra S12), in order to solve it. Hopefully soolving the problem soon best Martin From Matt Lenhart on 2/25/2008 10:53:00 AM Hi Martin, The Sound.LoadFactor attribute is exclusive to E-Prime 2.0. This is not a setting that can be changed on your computer. Rather, this setting changes the way E-Prime 2.0 loads and buffers sound internally. To change the Sound.LoadFactor value, you should simply place an InLine at the start of the SessionProc and enter the script provided in my previous response. Also, though I am unsure of the length/size of your sound files, you may want to consider changing the Buffer Mode back to "Buffered" (i.e., instead of "Streaming"). The Buffer Size can be set to any value up to 100000, so if your files are less than 100 seconds, this is worth a try. Also, if the files are a reasonable size, you can attach them to a response and I will run your experiment on my machine and see if I can replicate the problem. This may lend insight to another issue that may be causing the problem but has not yet been considered. The support site can handle files 10MB or less, so if your zipped files are less than this, you can attach the ZIP containing them. You can also try some other maintenance techniques, such as ensuring that your sound adapter has the most up-to-date drivers. You will need to contact the manufacturer to obtain these (you can typically go to their web site to get them). You can also try shutting down any background applications that could be interfering using the MSCONFIG utility. Please see INFO: How to use MSCONFIG to troubleshoot machine configuration and reduce background applications. If you continue to have problems, you can generate a Tech Support report for us to look at to see if your machine configurationg poses any problems. Please see INFO: How to send a tech support report to PST representatives if you are unsure of how to generate this report. In general, our developers are aware of these problems and are working to fix them in future builds of E-Prime 2.0. Unfortunately, the problems vary from machine to machine and are a bit difficult to tackle. However, we are working to sort them out and hope to do so very soon. Please let me know what you find. On Mar 18, 8:03?pm, Jivago wrote: > I would like to ask the Forum if the E-prime works fine with Windows > Vista. > Will only the E-Prime 2.0 or 2.0 Pro will work with Windows Vista or > other older E-Prime versions, like 1.1 will work as well also? > Thanks in advance, > Pedro --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From asafbo69 at gmail.com Mon Mar 31 16:14:11 2008 From: asafbo69 at gmail.com (asiblood) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:14:11 -0700 Subject: counterbalancing two procedures Message-ID: hey i'm new to e-prime, my college just bought e-prime version 2.0. i have a little complicated experiment, and i need help with the first stop of it. i have 12 lists, each contains 15 words. i have 2 manipulations: 1. read the words 2. assess a word on a scale of 1-6. each manipulations has it's own different instructions. i need the subject to make 6 lists on 1 manipulation and the other 6 on the other manipulation. but it has to be in a row, so the subject won't be jumping from one manipulation to the other. he will do 6 lists on one manipulation and the 6 on the other. the problem is, i need to counterbalance each of the manipulations so that the order will be changed. and also i need to counterbalance between the words and the manipulations, so that the subjects won't get the same list in the same manipulation. thank you for your help i have to mention, that the second phase of the experiment is the use of those lists. so perhaps i need a subject list that consists of all the words and lists. asaf --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Mon Mar 31 20:21:31 2008 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:21:31 -0400 Subject: Windows Vista In-Reply-To: <63dcd8ae-04a0-4a76-b6a5-35886eb6c67b@8g2000hse.googlegroup s.com> Message-ID: Katie, At 3/26/2008 06:02 PM Wednesday, you wrote: >Just to clarify, you would recommend running E-Prime on XP rather than >Vista, because it is buggy on Vista? We are buying new machines and >deciding whether to get them loaded with XP or Vista. It's apparently >no longer possible to get the sound card PST says it recommends (here: >http://www.pstnet.com/products/e-prime/#require) on an XP machine, >only with Vista. I was away on vacation, luckily others have already filled in, but FWIW... I am reluctant to use the term "buggy" yet. I only know that we get frequent "sound timed out" errors with EP2 under Vista, and PST has not yet addressed this problem. Also, both Vista and EP2 in general are new and untested, whereas both Win XP and EP1 have already proven fairly stable. As to the sound card, we have never paid any attention to the PST recommendations. At least with EP1, any SoundBlaster-compatible card that we had Just Worked. I expect the same with EP2. As always, YMMV. -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- From migueljar at gmail.com Mon Mar 31 23:48:29 2008 From: migueljar at gmail.com (Miguel Jar) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 01:48:29 +0200 Subject: USB digital pad Message-ID: Hi, I?m trying to connect a USB digital Pad (like playstation/xbox pads) as device in a very simply desing of Eprime, but I cannot make it to work. Am I wasting my time or there is any option to make it to run? We usually make experiments with children so it?s the perfect tool to work with them and I?ve see others programs that can use this kind of device. Thanks and sorry for my english :) -- Miguel L?pez Faculty of Psychology University of Malaga (Spain) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime-unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: