From waltpipedawgs at gmail.com Thu Sep 1 00:09:18 2011 From: waltpipedawgs at gmail.com (Walter Piper) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:09:18 -0700 Subject: Multiple Mouse Click Question In-Reply-To: <24baa382-cf0f-4aa7-b282-cf7313a72b79@fi7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Here's what I recommend based on the limited experience I have: On the slide, place a text box for each of the possible choices. Since you have 2 sets of choices, place 26 text boxes on one side of the slide, and 26 text boxes on the other. Each text box will hold a different letter, and the name of each text box will be "1a", "1b",... "1z", "2a", "2b"... "2z". Also have a text box with the name "NEXT" that participant can click on when done selecting. These will serve as buttons of sort. Before the slide, create an InLine that declares 2 Boolean variables, and set them both to False. Also, create 2 String variables to hold the names of the textbox selected. """ dim Response1 as Boolean dim Response2 as Boolean Response1 = FALSE Response2 = FALSE dim R1String as String dim R2String as String """ Also, in this InLine, declare and manipulate some variables in order to get the mouse input - slide interface going. I'll just list off the code that I think will work for you and explain a little bit after the ' symbol (because I can't remember off the top of my head how it all works), but I'll be happy to figure it out if you need more explanation. """ dim SlideHit as SlideState 'Declares a variable that allows you to reference your slide. set SlideHit = Slide1.States("Default") 'This is assuming the name of your slide is "Slide1" and you're using the "Default" slide state. dim xSlide1 as SlideText 'Declares a variable that allows you to reference the text boxes/buttons. Mouse.ShowCursor TRUE 'Self-explanatory dim MouseHit as MouseResponseData dim MouseString as String dim MouseRow as String """ This should be sufficient for the InLine before the slide. Now, create a label between the InLine and the slide called "FromStart". Create the slide as described above. Set the duration to "(infinite)". Add a mouse input in the slide properties, and set the end action to "Terminate". Uncheck the keyboard response. Create a new InLine after the slide, and a label after the InLine called "NextSlide". Start the InLine with: """ If Slide1.InputMasks.Responses.Count > 0 Then 'Launches action if there was a mouse response. Set MouseHit = CMouseResponseData(Slide1.InputMasks.Responses(1)) 'Checks to see what text box was clicked on. MouseString = SlideHit.HitTest.(MouseHit.CursorX, MouseHit.CursorY) 'Sets the previously created string as the name of the text box that was clicked on. MouseRow = Mid(MouseString, 1) 'Sets the MouseRow string as the first character of the textbox (In this case, 1 or 2) Select Case MouseRow 'Decides the next action based on whether MouseRow equals 1 or 2. Case "1" If Not R1String = "" Then Set xSlide1 = CSlideText(Slide1.States.Item("Default").Objects(R1String)) xSlide1.BackColor = CColor ("White") End If Set xSlide1 = CSlideText(Slide1.States.Item("Default").Objects(MouseString)) xSlide1.BackColor = CColor ("Red") R1 = TRUE R1String = MouseString Case "2" 'Copy and paste the above, but use the variables "R2String" and "R2" instead. Case "N" If R1 AND R2 = TRUE Then Goto NextSlide End If End Select End If Goto FromStart """ Create a third InLine after the label NextSlide. Write it as such: """ c.SetAttrib "Choice1.1", R1String c.SetAttrib "Choice1.2", R2String R1String = "" R2String = "" R1 = FALSE R2 = FALSE Set SlideHit = Slide2.States("Default") 'Assuming your next slide is called "Slide2" set xSlide1 = Nothing """ I THINK this should work. Sorry it's such a long-winded answer. Good luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From neil.mclatchie at googlemail.com Thu Sep 1 16:01:51 2011 From: neil.mclatchie at googlemail.com (Neil McLatchie) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:01:51 -0700 Subject: Participant likert scale Message-ID: Hi everyone, I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. Any help welcome! Cheers, Neil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 1 16:15:47 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:15:47 +0100 Subject: Participant likert scale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Neil, So, if I'm correct, this should be it, let me know if I forgot something. Add the following to some procedure: 1. TextDisplay, I'm calling it question. You can insert the question here ("how guilty") etc. 2. Inline with code: dim myNRESP as integer 'initializes an integer myNRESP = -1 'sets it to -1, for reasons that should be clear later 3. Label, called PreJump 4. Inline with code myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses 5. TextDisplay, I called it ResponseDisplay. It displays the following text [NRESP] (after the attribute created earlier); a maximum duration of whatever you'd like to be the final duration of your responses hammering (I made it 1000 ms here, default). An input object (I used my keyboard, any button allowed). And most important: end action: jump to label: PreJump. Voila - tested, works. Only thing to do is dump all this in a list and add your likert questions. Cheers, Mich Michiel Spapé Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie Sent: 01 September 2011 17:02 To: E-Prime Subject: Participant likert scale Hi everyone, I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. Any help welcome! Cheers, Neil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From neil.mclatchie at googlemail.com Thu Sep 1 16:27:37 2011 From: neil.mclatchie at googlemail.com (Neil McLatchie) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:27:37 -0700 Subject: Participant likert scale In-Reply-To: <09DAEA8BC192C94EB62C8E71FC35A5D9308F674B0A@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Wow, thank you for such a speedy response! As much as I appreciate it, I am afraid even though you made it sound simple, it has gone a bit over my head. As of point number 2, I'm left scratching my head a bit. I don't know what 'Inline with code' means, let alone 'dim myNRESPS...etc'. Sorry, I really do appreciate the help, and I apologise if I am just so new to this that I don't understand the most basic of things! Any chance you could talk me through it in baby steps? If not, thanks anyway for your reply! Neil On Sep 1, 5:15 pm, Michiel Spape wrote: > Hi Neil, > So, if I'm correct, this should be it, let me know if I forgot something. Add the following to some procedure: > 1. TextDisplay, I'm calling it question. You can insert the question here ("how guilty") etc. > 2. Inline with code: > dim myNRESP as integer 'initializes an integer > myNRESP = -1 'sets it to -1, for reasons that should be clear later > 3. Label, called PreJump > 4. Inline with code > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > 5. TextDisplay, I called it ResponseDisplay. It displays the following text [NRESP] (after the attribute created earlier); a maximum duration of whatever you'd like to be the final duration of your responses hammering (I made it 1000 ms here, default). An input object (I used my keyboard, any button allowed). And most important: end action: jump to label: PreJump. > > Voila - tested, works. Only thing to do is dump all this in a list and add your likert questions. > Cheers, > Mich > > Michiel Spapé > Research Fellow > Perception & Action group > University of Nottingham > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:02 > To: E-Prime > Subject: Participant likert scale > > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I > basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are > feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they > can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. > > Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you > feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. > They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how > guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it > to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 > times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then > confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. > > As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would > be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a > keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. > > Any help welcome! > > Cheers, > Neil > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From neil.mclatchie at googlemail.com Thu Sep 1 16:28:56 2011 From: neil.mclatchie at googlemail.com (Neil McLatchie) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:28:56 -0700 Subject: Participant likert scale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ah hang on. Turns out I am dumber than I thought! Will get back in touch if I need any help. Apologies! On Sep 1, 5:27 pm, Neil McLatchie wrote: > Wow, thank you for such a speedy response! > > As much as I appreciate it, I am afraid even though you made it sound > simple, it has gone a bit over my head. As of point number 2, I'm left > scratching my head a bit. I don't know what 'Inline with code' means, > let alone 'dim myNRESPS...etc'. > > Sorry, I really do appreciate the help, and I apologise if I am just > so new to this that I don't understand the most basic of things! > > Any chance you could talk me through it in baby steps? > > If not, thanks anyway for your reply! > > Neil > > On Sep 1, 5:15 pm, Michiel Spape > wrote: > > > Hi Neil, > > So, if I'm correct, this should be it, let me know if I forgot something. Add the following to some procedure: > > 1. TextDisplay, I'm calling it question. You can insert the question here ("how guilty") etc. > > 2. Inline with code: > > dim myNRESP as integer 'initializes an integer > > myNRESP = -1 'sets it to -1, for reasons that should be clear later > > 3. Label, called PreJump > > 4. Inline with code > > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code > > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > > 5. TextDisplay, I called it ResponseDisplay. It displays the following text [NRESP] (after the attribute created earlier); a maximum duration of whatever you'd like to be the final duration of your responses hammering (I made it 1000 ms here, default). An input object (I used my keyboard, any button allowed). And most important: end action: jump to label: PreJump. > > > Voila - tested, works. Only thing to do is dump all this in a list and add your likert questions. > > Cheers, > > Mich > > > Michiel Spapé > > Research Fellow > > Perception & Action group > > University of Nottingham > > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:02 > > To: E-Prime > > Subject: Participant likert scale > > > Hi everyone, > > > I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I > > basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are > > feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they > > can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. > > > Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you > > feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. > > They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how > > guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it > > to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 > > times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then > > confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. > > > As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would > > be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a > > keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. > > > Any help welcome! > > > Cheers, > > Neil > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 1 16:40:44 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:40:44 +0100 Subject: Participant likert scale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Like so! ...i was writing: Hiya, I think those pretty much *were* babysteps, provided you've done enough with E-Prime to really work on it. If not, try having a go at the tutorial or the E-Primer (link elsewhere on this list, or on my own homepage around "about me"). It will be worth your while, and doesn't take all that long. Anyway, as said: Add an inline (just drag it), and copy-paste the following TWO lines: ------ myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses ------ That adds, automatically the attribute, even if you don't have a list. You'll ultimately need a list somewhere anywhere, but for now, this works. Best, Mich Michiel Spapé Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie Sent: 01 September 2011 17:37 To: E-Prime Subject: Re: Participant likert scale Hi again, sorry about the confusion earlier. I've done what you suggested. I'm a little thrown by part of 4. I've done everything else, but where do i create this attribute? Do i just put a list after the second inline and create it? On Sep 1, 5:15 pm, Michiel Spape wrote: > Hi Neil, > So, if I'm correct, this should be it, let me know if I forgot something. Add the following to some procedure: > 1. TextDisplay, I'm calling it question. You can insert the question here ("how guilty") etc. > 2. Inline with code: > dim myNRESP as integer 'initializes an integer > myNRESP = -1 'sets it to -1, for reasons that should be clear later > 3. Label, called PreJump > 4. Inline with code > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > 5. TextDisplay, I called it ResponseDisplay. It displays the following text [NRESP] (after the attribute created earlier); a maximum duration of whatever you'd like to be the final duration of your responses hammering (I made it 1000 ms here, default). An input object (I used my keyboard, any button allowed). And most important: end action: jump to label: PreJump. > > Voila - tested, works. Only thing to do is dump all this in a list and add your likert questions. > Cheers, > Mich > > Michiel Spapé > Research Fellow > Perception & Action group > University of Nottingham > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:02 > To: E-Prime > Subject: Participant likert scale > > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I > basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are > feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they > can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. > > Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you > feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. > They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how > guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it > to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 > times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then > confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. > > As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would > be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a > keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. > > Any help welcome! > > Cheers, > Neil > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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You can insert the question here ("how guilty") etc. > 2. Inline with code: > dim myNRESP as integer 'initializes an integer > myNRESP = -1 'sets it to -1, for reasons that should be clear later > 3. Label, called PreJump > 4. Inline with code > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > 5. TextDisplay, I called it ResponseDisplay. It displays the following text [NRESP] (after the attribute created earlier); a maximum duration of whatever you'd like to be the final duration of your responses hammering (I made it 1000 ms here, default). An input object (I used my keyboard, any button allowed). And most important: end action: jump to label: PreJump. > > Voila - tested, works. Only thing to do is dump all this in a list and add your likert questions. > Cheers, > Mich > > Michiel Spapé > Research Fellow > Perception & Action group > University of Nottingham > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:02 > To: E-Prime > Subject: Participant likert scale > > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I > basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are > feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they > can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. > > Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you > feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. > They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how > guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it > to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 > times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then > confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. > > As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would > be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a > keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. > > Any help welcome! > > Cheers, > Neil > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From neil.mclatchie at googlemail.com Thu Sep 1 17:21:25 2011 From: neil.mclatchie at googlemail.com (Neil McLatchie) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 10:21:25 -0700 Subject: Participant likert scale In-Reply-To: <09DAEA8BC192C94EB62C8E71FC35A5D9308F674B13@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thank you kindly for your help! At the moment I am using the mouse to increase the number. However, both buttons are doing the same thing, and there is no limit - I can click as many times as I like within the set time. If there is any way of a) looping the number so that once it gets to 7 it loops back round to 1, and b) to differentiate between right clicking increasing the number and left clicking terminating, it would be great. Thanks again for the help I've already received! Cheers, Neil On Sep 1, 5:40 pm, Michiel Spape wrote: > Like so! > ...i was writing: > Hiya, > I think those pretty much *were* babysteps, provided you've done enough with E-Prime to really work on it. If not, try having a go at the tutorial or the E-Primer (link elsewhere on this list, or on my own homepage around "about me"). It will be worth your while, and doesn't take all that long. > > Anyway, as said: > Add an inline (just drag it), and copy-paste the following TWO lines: > ------ > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > ------ > > That adds, automatically the attribute, even if you don't have a list. You'll ultimately need a list somewhere anywhere, but for now, this works. > Best, > Mich > > Michiel Spapé > Research Fellow > Perception & Action group > University of Nottingham > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:37 > To: E-Prime > Subject: Re: Participant likert scale > > Hi again, sorry about the confusion earlier. > > I've done what you suggested. I'm a little thrown by part of 4. I've > done everything else, but where do i create this attribute? Do i just > put a list after the second inline and create it? > > On Sep 1, 5:15 pm, Michiel Spape > wrote: > > Hi Neil, > > So, if I'm correct, this should be it, let me know if I forgot something. Add the following to some procedure: > > 1. TextDisplay, I'm calling it question. You can insert the question here ("how guilty") etc. > > 2. Inline with code: > > dim myNRESP as integer 'initializes an integer > > myNRESP = -1 'sets it to -1, for reasons that should be clear later > > 3. Label, called PreJump > > 4. Inline with code > > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code > > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > > 5. TextDisplay, I called it ResponseDisplay. It displays the following text [NRESP] (after the attribute created earlier); a maximum duration of whatever you'd like to be the final duration of your responses hammering (I made it 1000 ms here, default). An input object (I used my keyboard, any button allowed). And most important: end action: jump to label: PreJump. > > > Voila - tested, works. Only thing to do is dump all this in a list and add your likert questions. > > Cheers, > > Mich > > > Michiel Spapé > > Research Fellow > > Perception & Action group > > University of Nottingham > > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:02 > > To: E-Prime > > Subject: Participant likert scale > > > Hi everyone, > > > I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I > > basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are > > feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they > > can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. > > > Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you > > feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. > > They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how > > guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it > > to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 > > times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then > > confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. > > > As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would > > be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a > > keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. > > > Any help welcome! > > > Cheers, > > Neil > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Sep 2 09:11:34 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:11:34 +0100 Subject: Participant likert scale In-Reply-To: <080b8bf1-6047-42b8-b9a5-f6aed1e972e4@er4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hiya, Yes, well, I suppose you probably already figured this out, but the idea would be to add another inline after the last textdisplay, and don't do the end-action = jump label. With the bit of code in this inline, you'd 1) check response, 2) reset to 0 as in: switch (ResponseDisplay.Resp) { case "1": myNRESP+=1; if (myNRESP > 7) {myNRESP = 0;} goto PreJump; break; case "2": myNRESP-=1; if (myNRESP < 0) {myNRESP = 0;} goto PreJump; break; default: break; } You can see the above is a little mix of c# and e-basic. This is because A) c# is beautiful, B) I tend to forget the specifics of basic syntax (certainly regarding the switch statement), C) the proper way is somewhere in the e-basic help, and it pays to learn a bit. PS: David, and my fellow geeks, perhaps you'll enjoy this as much as I did: http://www.addedbytes.com/blog/if-php-were-british/ Cheers, Mich Michiel Spapé Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie Sent: 01 September 2011 18:21 To: E-Prime Subject: Re: Participant likert scale Thank you kindly for your help! At the moment I am using the mouse to increase the number. However, both buttons are doing the same thing, and there is no limit - I can click as many times as I like within the set time. If there is any way of a) looping the number so that once it gets to 7 it loops back round to 1, and b) to differentiate between right clicking increasing the number and left clicking terminating, it would be great. Thanks again for the help I've already received! Cheers, Neil On Sep 1, 5:40 pm, Michiel Spape wrote: > Like so! > ...i was writing: > Hiya, > I think those pretty much *were* babysteps, provided you've done enough with E-Prime to really work on it. If not, try having a go at the tutorial or the E-Primer (link elsewhere on this list, or on my own homepage around "about me"). It will be worth your while, and doesn't take all that long. > > Anyway, as said: > Add an inline (just drag it), and copy-paste the following TWO lines: > ------ > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > ------ > > That adds, automatically the attribute, even if you don't have a list. You'll ultimately need a list somewhere anywhere, but for now, this works. > Best, > Mich > > Michiel Spapé > Research Fellow > Perception & Action group > University of Nottingham > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:37 > To: E-Prime > Subject: Re: Participant likert scale > > Hi again, sorry about the confusion earlier. > > I've done what you suggested. I'm a little thrown by part of 4. I've > done everything else, but where do i create this attribute? Do i just > put a list after the second inline and create it? > > On Sep 1, 5:15 pm, Michiel Spape > wrote: > > Hi Neil, > > So, if I'm correct, this should be it, let me know if I forgot something. Add the following to some procedure: > > 1. TextDisplay, I'm calling it question. You can insert the question here ("how guilty") etc. > > 2. Inline with code: > > dim myNRESP as integer 'initializes an integer > > myNRESP = -1 'sets it to -1, for reasons that should be clear later > > 3. Label, called PreJump > > 4. Inline with code > > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code > > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > > 5. TextDisplay, I called it ResponseDisplay. It displays the following text [NRESP] (after the attribute created earlier); a maximum duration of whatever you'd like to be the final duration of your responses hammering (I made it 1000 ms here, default). An input object (I used my keyboard, any button allowed). And most important: end action: jump to label: PreJump. > > > Voila - tested, works. Only thing to do is dump all this in a list and add your likert questions. > > Cheers, > > Mich > > > Michiel Spapé > > Research Fellow > > Perception & Action group > > University of Nottingham > > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:02 > > To: E-Prime > > Subject: Participant likert scale > > > Hi everyone, > > > I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I > > basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are > > feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they > > can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. > > > Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you > > feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. > > They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how > > guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it > > to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 > > times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then > > confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. > > > As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would > > be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a > > keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. > > > Any help welcome! > > > Cheers, > > Neil > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Sep 2 14:21:28 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:21:28 -0400 Subject: Participant likert scale In-Reply-To: <09DAEA8BC192C94EB62C8E71FC35A5D9308F674B47@EXCHANGE3.ad.no ttingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I agree, C and its derivatives are beautiful, BASIC and all its derivatives (e.g., VBA, E-Basic) are clumsy and ugly (apologies to John Kemeny and Thomas Kurtz, originators of BASIC at Dartmouth College in 1964). (And thanks for if-php-were-british, I like the "perchance" statement, etc.) Anyway, I hate to spare anyone the exercise of puzzling this out for themselves, but I fear that Neil may turn this into a bunch of If-Then statements instead of doing it properly with Select Case (also, it allows readers to see the inferiority of the E-Basic expression). So forthwith, my translation into E-Basic: Select Case (ResponseDisplay.RESP) Case "1" myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 If (myNRESP > 7) Then myNRESP = 0 Goto PreJump Case "2" myNRESP = myNRESP - 1 If (myNRESP < 0) Then myNRESP = 0 Goto PreJump Case Else ' Done. End Select Note that the If-Then constructs for the two rollover computations merely implement modular arithmetic. So, for extra credit, do this actually using modular arithmetic (i.e., the Mod operator). As an additional exercise, try using a conditional statement (Iif might work well here) to select the sign of the increment/decrement value so that you can use the same line of code to do either rollover computation. -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder At 9/2/2011 05:11 AM Friday, Michiel Spape wrote: >Hiya, >Yes, well, I suppose you probably already >figured this out, but the idea would be to add >another inline after the last textdisplay, and >don't do the end-action = jump label. With the >bit of code in this inline, you'd 1) check response, 2) reset to 0 as in: >switch (ResponseDisplay.Resp) >{ > case "1": myNRESP+=1; if (myNRESP > 7) > {myNRESP = 0;} goto PreJump; break; > case "2": myNRESP-=1; if (myNRESP < 0) > {myNRESP = 0;} goto PreJump; break; > default: break; >} > >You can see the above is a little mix of c# and >e-basic. This is because A) c# is beautiful, B) >I tend to forget the specifics of basic syntax >(certainly regarding the switch statement), C) >the proper way is somewhere in the e-basic help, and it pays to learn a bit. > >PS: David, and my fellow geeks, perhaps you'll >enjoy this as much as I did: >http://www.addedbytes.com/blog/if-php-were-british/ > > >Cheers, >Mich > >Michiel Spapé >Research Fellow >Perception & Action group >University of Nottingham >School of Psychology >www.cognitology.eu > > >-----Original Message----- >From: e-prime at googlegroups.com >[mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie >Sent: 01 September 2011 18:21 >To: E-Prime >Subject: Re: Participant likert scale > >Thank you kindly for your help! > >At the moment I am using the mouse to increase the number. However, >both buttons are doing the same thing, and there is no limit - I can >click as many times as I like within the set time. > >If there is any way of a) looping the number so that once it gets to 7 >it loops back round to 1, and b) to differentiate between right >clicking increasing the number and left clicking terminating, it would >be great. > >Thanks again for the help I've already received! > >Cheers, >Neil > >On Sep 1, 5:40 pm, Michiel Spape >wrote: > > Like so! > > ...i was writing: > > Hiya, > > I think those pretty much *were* babysteps, > provided you've done enough with E-Prime to > really work on it. If not, try having a go at > the tutorial or the E-Primer (link elsewhere on > this list, or on my own homepage around "about > me"). It will be worth your while, and doesn't take all that long. > > > > Anyway, as said: > > Add an inline (just drag it), and copy-paste the following TWO lines: > > ------ > > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of > responses - the baseline of your code > > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > > ------ > > > > That adds, automatically the attribute, even > if you don't have a list. You'll ultimately > need a list somewhere anywhere, but for now, this works. > > Best, > > Mich > > > > Michiel Spapé > > Research Fellow > > Perception & Action group > > University of Nottingham > > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com > [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:37 > > To: E-Prime > > Subject: Re: Participant likert scale > > > > Hi again, sorry about the confusion earlier. > > > > I've done what you suggested. I'm a little thrown by part of 4. I've > > done everything else, but where do i create this attribute? Do i just > > put a list after the second inline and create it? > > > > On Sep 1, 5:15 pm, Michiel Spape > > wrote: > > > Hi Neil, > > > So, if I'm correct, this should be it, let > me know if I forgot something. Add the following to some procedure: > > > 1. TextDisplay, I'm calling it question. > You can insert the question here ("how guilty") etc. > > > 2. Inline with code: > > > dim myNRESP as integer 'initializes an integer > > > myNRESP = -1 'sets it to -1, for reasons that should be clear later > > > 3. Label, called PreJump > > > 4. Inline with code > > > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of > responses - the baseline of your code > > > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > > > 5. TextDisplay, I called it > ResponseDisplay. It displays the following text > [NRESP] (after the attribute created earlier); > a maximum duration of whatever you'd like to be > the final duration of your responses hammering > (I made it 1000 ms here, default). An input > object (I used my keyboard, any button > allowed). And most important: end action: jump to label: PreJump. > > > > > Voila - tested, works. Only thing to do is > dump all this in a list and add your likert questions. > > > Cheers, > > > Mich > > > > > Michiel Spapé > > > Research Fellow > > > Perception & Action group > > > University of Nottingham > > > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com > [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > > > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:02 > > > To: E-Prime > > > Subject: Participant likert scale > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I > > > basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are > > > feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they > > > can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. > > > > > Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you > > > feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. > > > They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how > > > guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it > > > to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 > > > times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then > > > confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. > > > > > As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would > > > be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a > > > keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. > > > > > Any help welcome! > > > > > Cheers, > > > Neil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From psychophysics.lab at gmail.com Mon Sep 5 23:11:26 2011 From: psychophysics.lab at gmail.com (Jordan Schoenherr) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:11:26 -0700 Subject: ImageDisplay Internal Error Message-ID: Good Evening, I've encountered an error that seems - on the face of it - to be quite prevalent. When I run a program I receive the following message: "Run-time Error (Line 3225) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has occurred Marker: 2002" In this experiment, a sequence of background images are shown and then a target is presented. These files are in bmp format. The error message occurs after - what would seem to be - just before the target image is presented (the number of pre-target pictures is randomized). The size of the image files are generally 900kb but some are 1200kb (not sure if this is relevant) and the number of failures seems to have to do with the number of images over 900kb. The odd thing is this: after newer variants of the experiment started producing these errors, I went back to earlier versions where I'd never encountered this error message and now they produce it. Moreover, this problem has been observed now on multiple systems running different versions of Windows. I've tried clearing the image buffer after each picture is presented and that doesn't appear to work. And, as I mentioned above, even going back to earlier version doesn't appear to resolve the issue. Given that it only occurs on some trials and appears to be related to it doesn't seem to be an issue with the script per se. Although I will try to re-save the images as jpg to see if that resolve the issue, I wanted to see whether anyone has encountered a similar problem. Cheers, J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From l.bugayong at gmail.com Tue Sep 6 09:36:31 2011 From: l.bugayong at gmail.com (Suli) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 02:36:31 -0700 Subject: Flashing random images consecutively on one slide Message-ID: Hello Group, I need help trying to set up a "distractor" slide that flashes 4-5 images at random for 1 second, each image for about ca. 200-250 ms respectively. So far, I tried setting up 4 consecutive slides with an image object, each of which drawing the images randomly from a nested list, but it seems that each of those slides always draw on the same image, so it doesn't appear to be changing at all. (Or at least that's my interpretation why I keep seeing only one image.) Do any of you have any ideas? Suli -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From liwenna at gmail.com Tue Sep 6 10:08:16 2011 From: liwenna at gmail.com (liwenna) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 03:08:16 -0700 Subject: ImageDisplay Internal Error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Jordan, Just to make sure (and because I generally like to state obivous things...): you checked whether all the images are actually present? This error most often occurs from files not being present and/or filename-typoes. A less obvious reason could be the 'macification' thing... don't know how/what/why but bmp's created/modified on a mac can also give this error. In that case simply opening and saving again with a windows program (gimp, photoshop, might be paint even works) should solve your problem. best, liw On Sep 6, 1:11 am, Jordan Schoenherr wrote: > Good Evening, > > I've encountered an error that seems - on the face of it - to be quite > prevalent. When I run a program I receive the following message: > > "Run-time Error (Line 3225) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has > occurred > Marker: 2002" > > In this experiment, a sequence of background images are shown and then > a target is presented. These files are in bmp format. The error > message occurs after - what would seem to be - just before the target > image is presented (the number of pre-target pictures is randomized). > The size of the image files are generally 900kb but some are 1200kb > (not sure if this is relevant) and the number of failures seems to > have to do with the number of images over 900kb. The odd thing is > this: after newer variants of the experiment started producing these > errors, I went back to earlier versions where I'd never encountered > this error message and now they produce it. Moreover, this problem has > been observed now on multiple systems running different versions of > Windows. > > I've tried clearing the image buffer after each picture is presented > and that doesn't appear to work. And, as I mentioned above, even going > back to earlier version doesn't appear to resolve the issue. Given > that it only occurs on some trials and appears to be related to  it > doesn't seem to be an issue with the script per se. Although I will > try to re-save the images as jpg to see if that resolve the issue, I > wanted to see whether anyone has encountered a similar problem. > > Cheers, > > J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Sep 6 10:35:14 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:35:14 +0100 Subject: Flashing random images consecutively on one slide In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Suli, Once again! Further on, if you like to use a nested list (with an attribute, say, myImages, filled with all the possible images), one way forward is to use the colon to select a specific row from your nested list. 1. Make sure your nested list contains all the images, and is set to randomise with every trial 2. Have a trialList (with reference to nested list) with 5 attributes: Image1, Image2...Image5. Each level refers to myImages:1, myImages:2.. myImages:5. 3. In the trialProc, have 5 slides, have 5 images on them (one each, obviously), let each refer to [Image1], [Image2]..[Image5]. So, e-prime randomises the order of your nested list. Your trial shows 5 images. Image1 will refer to myImages:1 - the first 'row' in myImages. Since your nested list is resorted every trial, however, the first row is always different. This trick is explained elsewhere on this list under rapid serial visual presentation or the attentional blink. Best, Mich Michiel Spapé Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Suli Sent: 06 September 2011 10:37 To: E-Prime Subject: Flashing random images consecutively on one slide Hello Group, I need help trying to set up a "distractor" slide that flashes 4-5 images at random for 1 second, each image for about ca. 200-250 ms respectively. So far, I tried setting up 4 consecutive slides with an image object, each of which drawing the images randomly from a nested list, but it seems that each of those slides always draw on the same image, so it doesn't appear to be changing at all. (Or at least that's my interpretation why I keep seeing only one image.) Do any of you have any ideas? Suli -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Tue Sep 6 14:56:54 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:56:54 -0400 Subject: ImageDisplay Internal Error In-Reply-To: <206a441c-5ffd-4060-86f4-1a7d46546115@u19g2000vbm.googlegro ups.com> Message-ID: What liw said, plus this error message is documented in E-Prime Knowledge Base #3000: http://www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=3000 . -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder At 9/6/2011 06:08 AM Tuesday, you wrote: >Hi Jordan, > >Just to make sure (and because I generally like to state obivous >things...): you checked whether all the images are actually present? >This error most often occurs from files not being present and/or >filename-typoes. > >A less obvious reason could be the 'macification' thing... don't know >how/what/why but bmp's created/modified on a mac can also give this >error. In that case simply opening and saving again with a windows >program (gimp, photoshop, might be paint even works) should solve your >problem. > >best, > >liw > >On Sep 6, 1:11 am, Jordan Schoenherr >wrote: > > Good Evening, > > > > I've encountered an error that seems - on the face of it - to be quite > > prevalent. When I run a program I receive the following message: > > > > "Run-time Error (Line 3225) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has > > occurred > > Marker: 2002" > > > > In this experiment, a sequence of background images are shown and then > > a target is presented. These files are in bmp format. The error > > message occurs after - what would seem to be - just before the target > > image is presented (the number of pre-target pictures is randomized). > > The size of the image files are generally 900kb but some are 1200kb > > (not sure if this is relevant) and the number of failures seems to > > have to do with the number of images over 900kb. The odd thing is > > this: after newer variants of the experiment started producing these > > errors, I went back to earlier versions where I'd never encountered > > this error message and now they produce it. Moreover, this problem has > > been observed now on multiple systems running different versions of > > Windows. > > > > I've tried clearing the image buffer after each picture is presented > > and that doesn't appear to work. And, as I mentioned above, even going > > back to earlier version doesn't appear to resolve the issue. Given > > that it only occurs on some trials and appears to be related to it > > doesn't seem to be an issue with the script per se. Although I will > > try to re-save the images as jpg to see if that resolve the issue, I > > wanted to see whether anyone has encountered a similar problem. > > > > Cheers, > > > > J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From cjp872 at gmail.com Mon Sep 12 17:33:22 2011 From: cjp872 at gmail.com (cjp87) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:33:22 -0700 Subject: Compiling Error (unexpected ')' appears in code). Message-ID: Hello, Sorry if this is an oft-encountered problem, due to the lack of an error number, and the amount of symbols in the error popup, googling for the problem itself didn't go over so well. I'm not particularly e-prime/e-basic savvy, so all I'm doing has been through the GUI (no inline code), and so I'm confused how a code error occurred, and I'm also optimistic that the solution is rather simple. This is the error box I receive when trying to compile the script: "Error found during Compile The following error was found while attempting to compile the E-Basic Script: Encountered: ')' Expecting: end of line Line: 477 Column: 23" Now, I found the line they're talking about, and there does seem to be a close parenthesis there, but I don't know why an error like that would occur when all I did was use the drag/drop tools and select a file path. Specifically, the error occurs within a List that has a procedure setup to call 6 images randomly from a folder containing 12 images. Here are some screenshots of the offending code, as well as the way I set up the experiment where the error seems to occur: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/cjp87/error1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/cjp87/error2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/cjp87/error3.jpg My intention is to have this experiment up and running no later than tomorrow, so any help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance, Colton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From cjp872 at gmail.com Mon Sep 12 17:40:21 2011 From: cjp872 at gmail.com (cjp87) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:40:21 -0700 Subject: Compiling Error (unexpected ')' appears in code). In-Reply-To: <1de7f8eb-e5dc-489e-9173-6026b2f5736b@c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Photobucket links don't seem to be working for me. Maybe these will. http://i.imgur.com/PKnXr.jpg http://i.imgur.com/K4e16.jpg http://i.imgur.com/YdIlx.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Mon Sep 12 18:45:38 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:45:38 -0400 Subject: Compiling Error (unexpected ')' appears in code). In-Reply-To: <1de7f8eb-e5dc-489e-9173-6026b2f5736b@c29g2000yqd.googlegro ups.com> Message-ID: Colton, "... all I did was use the drag/drop tools and select a file path." Ah, the old file path separator problem. No way you would have figured that out from the error message, nor by any amount of Googling. You can find the issue discussed at the following threads: http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic2336-12-1.aspx , http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic1689-12-1.aspx , http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic1718-5-1.aspx http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime/browse_thread/thread/d2760287fabeb88a -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder At 9/12/2011 01:33 PM Monday, you wrote: >Hello, > >Sorry if this is an oft-encountered problem, due to the lack of an >error number, and the amount of symbols in the error popup, googling >for the problem itself didn't go over so well. > >I'm not particularly e-prime/e-basic savvy, so all I'm doing has been >through the GUI (no inline code), and so I'm confused how a code error >occurred, and I'm also optimistic that the solution is rather simple. > >This is the error box I receive when trying to compile the script: > >"Error found during Compile > >The following error was found while attempting to compile the E-Basic >Script: > >Encountered: ')' >Expecting: end of line > >Line: 477 >Column: 23" > >Now, I found the line they're talking about, and there does seem to be >a close parenthesis there, but I don't know why an error like that >would occur when all I did was use the drag/drop tools and select a >file path. > >Specifically, the error occurs within a List that has a procedure >setup to call 6 images randomly from a folder containing 12 images. >Here are some screenshots of the offending code, as well as the way I >set up the experiment where the error seems to occur: > >http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/cjp87/error1.jpg >http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/cjp87/error2.jpg >http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/cjp87/error3.jpg > >My intention is to have this experiment up and running no later than >tomorrow, so any help is much appreciated. > >Thanks in advance, > >Colton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From meltemballan at gmail.com Thu Sep 15 19:57:18 2011 From: meltemballan at gmail.com (M B) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:57:18 -0700 Subject: blink between two slides Message-ID: Hello All, I have a task that I measure visual acuity. When I used black background for fixation and the stimulus I did not experience the blink between the stimulus and fixation representations. However, I need to use white background for my new experiment and I experience a blink between these two slides ( a momentary gray blink). I was wondering whether any of you had a similar issue and know the way to prevent this issue. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Thu Sep 15 21:17:54 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:17:54 -0400 Subject: blink between two slides In-Reply-To: <20cfcccc-f5f6-4f84-97ff-45b75fc27f4a@u19g2000vbm.googlegro ups.com> Message-ID: Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff takes any and all questions at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , and they strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of it. 3) If you do get an answer from PST Web Support, please extend the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. That said, here is my take... I have used E-Prime 1 & 2 with white backgrounds for over a decade and never saw the blink that you describe. I wonder if this has something to do with specific settings in your stimuli? E.g., do you have Clear After set to Yes (I generally discourage this)? Instead of modifying an existing program from black backgrounds to white ones, what if you make a simple test program from scratch using nothing but white backgrounds? -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder At 9/15/2011 03:57 PM Thursday, you wrote: >Hello All, >I have a task that I measure visual acuity. When I used black >background for fixation and the stimulus I did not experience the >blink between the stimulus and fixation representations. However, I >need to use white background for my new experiment and I experience a >blink between these two slides ( a momentary gray blink). I was >wondering whether any of you had a similar issue and know the way to >prevent this issue. >Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From david.vogelsang at gmail.com Mon Sep 19 17:22:56 2011 From: david.vogelsang at gmail.com (Dr Hackenbush) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:22:56 -0700 Subject: How to fade from slide1 to slide2 (inline?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear All, I am experiencing the same problems as Erika Nyhus. Is there anyone who has found a solution yet? In my current experiment, I want to include a confidence rating so that I know how confident participants are in their answers. And I would like to measure this by the length of time they press the response button, just like in Erika's experiment. I want to use a moving bar which indicates the length of the button response. Does anyone know how this can be programmed in e- prime? Best regards, Dirk On Aug 9, 7:42 pm, Erika Nyhus wrote: > Attached is a mini-experiment implementing this code. > Erika > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:40 PM, enyhus wrote: > > Thank you for all your help so far.  I have tried integrating my color > > changing code with the code you have provided, but the color does not > > change nor are the key press and release being recorded.  I was > > wondering if you had any more advice on getting this to work. > > > First I put an InLine (SetTrialStartTime) at the very beginning of the > > trial like this. This sets up the initial color and gets the > > experiment time from the start of the > > trial: > > > '-------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > 'create all the variables you'll need: > > dim r as integer > > dim g as integer > > dim b as integer > > dim vr as string > > dim vb as string > > dim vg as string > > dim stepcounter as integer > > dim Slide1Time as integer > > dim ResponseTime as integer > > > 'assign value 255 to the red green and blue channels, rgb 255,255,255 > > is white > > r=0 > > b=255 > > g=255 > > > 'map the integer values of r, g, and b onto the string variables vr, > > vb and vg > > vr$= r > > vb$= b > > vg$= g > > > 'use the string rgb variables to modify the backgroundcolor of the > > textobject > > > CSlideText(Slide1.States(Slide1.ActiveState).Objects("Text1")).forecolor=CC olor > > (""& vr$ &","& vg$ &","& vb$ &"") > > > Dim lngTrialStart As Long > > lngTrialStart = Clock.Read > > > '-------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > > Then I added a label "Repeat" after the stimulus slide and before the > > next > > InLine, and another label "SkipInLine" after the next inline: > > > Then the following InLine (WaitForKeypresses): > > > '-------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > If Clock.Read - lngTrialStart >= 2500 Then GoTo SkipInLine > > > Dim nResps As Long > > > nResps = Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses.Count > > > 'waits for the initial keypress > > If nResps > 0 Then > > >   'loops until either a response is made or the trial time runs out: > >   nResps = Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses.Count > >   Do Until Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses(nResps).RESP = "{1}" > >      If Clock.Read - lngTrialStart >= 2500 Then GoTo SkipInLine > >      Sleep 1 > >   Loop > > >   'logs the keypress time: > >   c.SetAttrib "Keypress", Clock.Read > > >   'loops the color changing code until either the release or the > > trial time runs out > >      Do Until Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses(nResps).RESP = "{-1}" > >          If Clock.Read - lngTrialStart >= 2500 Then GoTo SkipInLine > >      'insert color changing code here > >          'First the values of green and blue will be decreased by 5 points, > > we started at 255,255,255 and this way after 50 repeats we will end at > > 255,0,0, which is pure red > > r = r > > g = g - 5 > > b = b - 5 > > > 'Map the integer values of rgb onto the string variables of rgb > > vr$= r > > vb$= b > > vg$= g > > > 'Assign the new value to forecolor > > > CSlideText(Slide1.States(Slide1.ActiveState).Objects("Text1")).forecolor=CC olor > > (""& vr$ &","& vg$ &","& vb$ &"") > > Slide1.draw > >   Loop > > Else > >   Sleep 1 > >   GoTo Repeat > > End If > > > 'logs the key release time: > > c.SetAttrib "Keyrelease", Clock.Read > > > '-------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > > Then after the label "SkipInLine" I added a simple InLine > > (WaitForTrialEnd) that waits untilt 2500 ms has passed from the start > > of the trial until the trial end: > > > '-------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > Do Until Clock.Read - lngTrialStart >= 2500 > >   Sleep 1 > > Loop > > > '-------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > > Erika > > > On Jul 28, 2:17 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > > > Erika, > > > > At 7/28/2011 01:55 PM Thursday, you wrote: > > > > >I have changed all the code to use > > > >Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses.Count, but I am getting the following > > > >error when I run it. > > > > >Operator type mismatch > > > >For line: Do Until Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses(nResps) = "{SPACE}" > > > > Um, Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses gets you to the > > > ResponseDataCollection object associated with Slide1.InputMasks(1), > > > and Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses(nResps) only gets you to a > > > particular ResponseData object, not any of its component > > > properties.  You have to drill down a little further to specific > > > ResponseData properties, e.g., > > > >          Do Until Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses(nResps).RESP = "{SPACE}" > > > > Please, please read through all the relevant topics in the E-Basic > > > Help facility.  This would also all become clear if you would take a > > > course on VBA, or give yourself some training using a book like "VBA > > > for Dummies".  It is a huge mistake to try to get an intricate > > > program to work without understanding *how* it works -- even if it > > > *appears* to work to you, chances are it does not really do what you > > > think it does, and you will unwittingly publish invalid results. > > > > -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "E-Prime" group. > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > -- > Erika Nyhus, Ph.D. > Cognitive, Linguistic, and Psychological Sciences > Brown University > 229 Waterman St. > Providence, RI 02912-1821 > >  TestImage.es2 > 34KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Mon Sep 19 18:34:11 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:34:11 -0400 Subject: How to fade from slide1 to slide2 (inline?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dirk, Can you indicate more precisely where you get stuck? E.g., do you need help knowing how to detect a button press & subsequent release (see the Key Release example on the PST Support web site), or help with drawing a bar that increases in length, etc.? -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder At 9/19/2011 01:22 PM Monday, you wrote: >Dear All, > >I am experiencing the same problems as Erika Nyhus. Is there anyone >who has found a solution yet? In my current experiment, I want to >include a confidence rating so that I know how confident participants >are in their answers. And I would like to measure this by the length >of time they press the response button, just like in Erika's >experiment. I want to use a moving bar which indicates the length of >the button response. Does anyone know how this can be programmed in e- >prime? > >Best regards, > >Dirk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From david.vogelsang at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 09:57:34 2011 From: david.vogelsang at gmail.com (Dr Hackenbush) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 02:57:34 -0700 Subject: How to fade from slide1 to slide2 (inline?) In-Reply-To: <4e778b40.41942a0a.6674.6647SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: Dear David McFarlane, Thank you for your reply. At this stage, we are still trying to get Erika’s code working. We were wondering if she already found a solution. We will try to get our program working first, and if we encounter very specific problems, then we will post our question on this google groups website. Best regards, Dirk On Sep 19, 7:34 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > Dirk, > > Can you indicate more precisely where you get stuck?  E.g., do you > need help knowing how to detect a button press & subsequent release > (see the Key Release example on the PST Support web site), or help > with drawing a bar that increases in length, etc.? > > -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder > > At 9/19/2011 01:22 PM Monday, you wrote: > > > > >Dear All, > > >I am experiencing the same problems as Erika Nyhus. Is there anyone > >who has found a solution yet?  In my current experiment, I want to > >include a confidence rating so that I know how confident participants > >are in their answers. And I would like to measure this by the length > >of time they press the response button, just like in Erika's > >experiment. I want to use a moving bar which indicates the length of > >the button response. Does anyone know how this can be programmed in e- > >prime? > > >Best regards, > > >Dirk- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From erinjoneshiggins at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 15:04:33 2011 From: erinjoneshiggins at gmail.com (Erin) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:04:33 -0700 Subject: issue with multiple levels of nested lists Message-ID: I am having some trouble figuring out the best way to do the following: I have an experiment that is using 3 levels of lists. At the highest level, the list calls on a middle level list in order to fill 2 different stimulus presentations (e.g. [stim:0] and [stim:1] ). At the middle level, there are 9 types of items which can fill the "stim" slot, each corresponding to a different nested list (which has the actual items to be used). When I run the experiment, the program will choose two items at the middle level, but it gets stuck in the first item's nested list (so I get an error when it tries to pull the second stimulus saying that it is out of context). Any ideas how to get E- prime to pull both nested lists at the same time? Also I know that if I put all of the lowest level lists into the nested column for the highest level list, it will work. The issue with that though is that it will then over-sample the lowest level lists, causing me to lose control of the number of presentations of each specific item. Hopefully this is clear enough - let me know if you need more details. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From pfc.groot at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 22:29:27 2011 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:29:27 +0200 Subject: How to fade from slide1 to slide2 (inline?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Dirk, You might have a look at the Visual Analogue Scale example script I made some time ago: http://www.pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/83-example-scripts/80-visual-analogue-scale-example-for-e-prime.html I think this code contains most ingredients you need to create such a response rating. It was designed to work with a mouse, but for fMRI experiments I also required keyboard control. If you use the simple version (without confirmation option) and tweak it a bit, it might be useful. Perhaps also it needs some improvement regarding the speed of the moving cursor though.... Kind regards, Paul 2011/9/20 Dr Hackenbush : > Dear David McFarlane, > Thank you for your reply. At this stage, we are still trying to get > Erika’s code working. We were wondering if she already found a > solution. We will try to get our program working first, and if we > encounter very specific problems, then we will post our question on > this google groups website. > Best regards, > > Dirk > > > On Sep 19, 7:34 pm, David McFarlane wrote: >> Dirk, >> >> Can you indicate more precisely where you get stuck?  E.g., do you >> need help knowing how to detect a button press & subsequent release >> (see the Key Release example on the PST Support web site), or help >> with drawing a bar that increases in length, etc.? >> >> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder >> >> At 9/19/2011 01:22 PM Monday, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >Dear All, >> >> >I am experiencing the same problems as Erika Nyhus. Is there anyone >> >who has found a solution yet?  In my current experiment, I want to >> >include a confidence rating so that I know how confident participants >> >are in their answers. And I would like to measure this by the length >> >of time they press the response button, just like in Erika's >> >experiment. I want to use a moving bar which indicates the length of >> >the button response. Does anyone know how this can be programmed in e- >> >prime? >> >> >Best regards, >> >> >Dirk- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From liwenna at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 10:32:45 2011 From: liwenna at gmail.com (liwenna) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 03:32:45 -0700 Subject: issue with multiple levels of nested lists In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Erin, Not entirely sure if I understood your description correctly but could it be that you try to pull two levels from the same list (at the third/ lowest) level on each trial i.e. fill the first level of the middle list with the items in the first and the second level of the thirdlevel list? If so: that will not work. On each trial only one level of each list can be used. Assuming that you need two stims of the same type at each trial: Is it an option for you to divide each set of stims for each 'type' into two halve sets? In that case you could put each stim from one halve set into it's own level at the middle level (or top level even) and nest into that level a list with the other halve set of the same stimtype. In this set-up two items that are in one list (the 'master' or the nested list) will never be paired, but random combinations would be generated between the two halve sets of each stimtype. Alternatively (in order to achieve fully randomized combinations within each type of stimuli) I personally would use a set-up that uses a bunch of code to first randomize the stimuli and then write combinations of items into the list. I'd expand on that but rather first know if that would help you out. Best, liw On Sep 20, 11:04 am, Erin wrote: > I am having some trouble figuring out the best way to do the > following: > > I have an experiment that is using 3 levels of lists. At the highest > level, the list calls on a middle level list in order to fill 2 > different stimulus presentations (e.g. [stim:0] and [stim:1] ). At the > middle level, there are 9 types of items which can fill the "stim" > slot, each corresponding to a different nested list (which has the > actual items to be used). When I run the experiment, the program will > choose two items at the middle level, but it gets stuck in the first > item's nested list (so I get an error when it tries to pull the second > stimulus saying that it is out of context). Any ideas how to get E- > prime to pull both nested lists at the same time?  Also I know that if > I put all of the lowest level lists into the nested column for the > highest level list, it will work. The issue with that though is that > it will then over-sample the lowest level lists, causing me to lose > control of the number of presentations of each specific item. > Hopefully this is clear enough - let me know if you need more details. > Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From liwenna at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 10:52:21 2011 From: liwenna at gmail.com (Anne-Wil Kruijt) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:52:21 +0200 Subject: issue with multiple levels of nested lists Message-ID: Hi Erin, I removed my initial post, for what I wrote there turned out to be not true when I tried to rebuild the setup described in your post. See attached file for a very simplified reproduction of what I understood your set-up is. It works just fine so it's probably not exactly the same as you have. Hope it helps you. Best, liw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So maybe there is a bug in the TET program (the sample of e-prime does not work either) just as was the case with earlier versions of the package for e-prime 1 (Clearvier and TET would not work in te same experiment, to be sorted by disabling the sentence Const DEVICE_CLOSED = 0 in one of the packages). Anyway, I have been at it for 2 days now and it is getting on my nerves. Thanks! Jan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From meltemballan at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 19:32:56 2011 From: meltemballan at gmail.com (Meltem BALLAN) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:32:56 -0400 Subject: eye tracking & e-prime2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Jan, I needed to play movie in E-Prime and my movie was 9:40 min long. I could not succeed when I contacted to E-Prime they suggested me to use short movies at most 1 min long. It did not solve my issue but it might help you. Meltem On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:28 PM, jkuipers wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering whether any of you has had trouble with getting the > TET server working (e-prime extentions for Tobii) with e-prime 2. I > have, for a while, a nice setup working in e-prime1 but I need to > display movies now. I noticed Michiel suggested in another discussion > to use frames in e-prime 1 instead of movies, but I do not want to > resort to that just yet. > Now, Clearview is working in e-prime2, also I can open/connect TET but > when any other comminication is required (TrackStatus, StartTracking) > it crashes (no message why). So maybe there is a bug in the TET > program (the sample of e-prime does not work either) just as was the > case with earlier versions of the package for e-prime 1 (Clearvier and > TET would not work in te same experiment, to be sorted by disabling > the sentence Const DEVICE_CLOSED = 0 in one of the packages). > Anyway, I have been at it for 2 days now and it is getting on my > nerves. > > Thanks! > > Jan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > -- Meltem Ballan, PhD Department of Psychiatry, CB# 7160 University of North Carolina School of Medicine 7023 Neurosciences Hospital Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7160 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.kuipers at bangor.ac.uk Wed Sep 21 20:05:01 2011 From: j.kuipers at bangor.ac.uk (jkuipers) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:05:01 -0700 Subject: eye tracking & e-prime2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Meltem! I use clips of 1s only so that should not be the problem then. Cheers, Jan On Sep 21, 8:32 pm, Meltem BALLAN wrote: > Hi Jan, > I needed to play movie in E-Prime and my movie was 9:40 min long. I could > not succeed when I contacted to E-Prime they suggested me to use short > movies at most 1 min long. It did not solve my issue but it might help you. > Meltem > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:28 PM, jkuipers wrote: > > Hi all, > > > I was wondering whether any of you has had trouble with getting the > > TET server working (e-prime extentions for Tobii) with e-prime 2. I > > have, for a while, a nice setup working in e-prime1 but I need to > > display movies now. I noticed Michiel suggested in another discussion > > to use frames in e-prime 1 instead of movies, but I do not want to > > resort to that just yet. > > Now, Clearview is working in e-prime2, also I can open/connect TET but > > when any other comminication is required (TrackStatus, StartTracking) > > it crashes (no message why). So maybe there is a bug in the TET > > program (the sample of e-prime does not work either) just as was the > > case with earlier versions of the package for e-prime 1 (Clearvier and > > TET would not work in te same experiment, to be sorted by disabling > > the sentence Const DEVICE_CLOSED = 0 in one of the packages). > > Anyway, I have been at it for 2 days now and it is getting on my > > nerves. > > > Thanks! > > > Jan > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "E-Prime" group. > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > -- > Meltem Ballan, PhD > Department of Psychiatry, CB# 7160 > University of North Carolina School of Medicine > 7023 Neurosciences Hospital > Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7160- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From meltemballan at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 20:10:52 2011 From: meltemballan at gmail.com (Meltem BALLAN) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:10:52 -0400 Subject: eye tracking & e-prime2 In-Reply-To: <8fc23208-fea3-44ca-aba7-85205ca8fde0@hg2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Jan, I found it easier when I inserted my movie in the slide. Good luck. Meltem On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:05 PM, jkuipers wrote: > Thanks Meltem! I use clips of 1s only so that should not be the > problem then. > > Cheers, > Jan > > On Sep 21, 8:32 pm, Meltem BALLAN wrote: > > Hi Jan, > > I needed to play movie in E-Prime and my movie was 9:40 min long. I could > > not succeed when I contacted to E-Prime they suggested me to use short > > movies at most 1 min long. It did not solve my issue but it might help > you. > > Meltem > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:28 PM, jkuipers > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > I was wondering whether any of you has had trouble with getting the > > > TET server working (e-prime extentions for Tobii) with e-prime 2. I > > > have, for a while, a nice setup working in e-prime1 but I need to > > > display movies now. I noticed Michiel suggested in another discussion > > > to use frames in e-prime 1 instead of movies, but I do not want to > > > resort to that just yet. > > > Now, Clearview is working in e-prime2, also I can open/connect TET but > > > when any other comminication is required (TrackStatus, StartTracking) > > > it crashes (no message why). So maybe there is a bug in the TET > > > program (the sample of e-prime does not work either) just as was the > > > case with earlier versions of the package for e-prime 1 (Clearvier and > > > TET would not work in te same experiment, to be sorted by disabling > > > the sentence Const DEVICE_CLOSED = 0 in one of the packages). > > > Anyway, I have been at it for 2 days now and it is getting on my > > > nerves. > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Jan > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "E-Prime" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > > > -- > > Meltem Ballan, PhD > > Department of Psychiatry, CB# 7160 > > University of North Carolina School of Medicine > > 7023 Neurosciences Hospital > > Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7160- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > -- Meltem Ballan, PhD Department of Psychiatry, CB# 7160 University of North Carolina School of Medicine 7023 Neurosciences Hospital Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7160 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From meltemballan at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 20:08:56 2011 From: meltemballan at gmail.com (Meltem BALLAN) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:08:56 -0400 Subject: blink between two slides In-Reply-To: <4e726ba3.4a962a0a.083a.ffffada0SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi David, I have contacted to E-Prime. They suggested me to change the order of slides and put the scripts in the beginning of each trial and suggested that it might be the image I used. I tried every option. But I still have the blink issue. I developed the task from the scratch it did not go away. The last thing strikes me as a problem is Netstation extensionbut I am not pretty sure by now. Thank you again. Meltem On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:17 PM, David McFarlane wrote: > Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff takes > any and all questions at http://support.pstnet.com/e%** > 2Dprime/support/login.asp, and they strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is > pretty much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of > it. 3) If you do get an answer from PST Web Support, please extend the > courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. > > That said, here is my take... > > I have used E-Prime 1 & 2 with white backgrounds for over a decade and > never saw the blink that you describe. I wonder if this has something to do > with specific settings in your stimuli? E.g., do you have Clear After set > to Yes (I generally discourage this)? Instead of modifying an existing > program from black backgrounds to white ones, what if you make a simple test > program from scratch using nothing but white backgrounds? > > -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder > > > > At 9/15/2011 03:57 PM Thursday, you wrote: > >> Hello All, >> I have a task that I measure visual acuity. When I used black >> background for fixation and the stimulus I did not experience the >> blink between the stimulus and fixation representations. However, I >> need to use white background for my new experiment and I experience a >> blink between these two slides ( a momentary gray blink). I was >> wondering whether any of you had a similar issue and know the way to >> prevent this issue. >> Thanks. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe@** > googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/e-prime?hl=en . > > -- Meltem Ballan, PhD Department of Psychiatry, CB# 7160 University of North Carolina School of Medicine 7023 Neurosciences Hospital Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7160 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 22 09:03:41 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:03:41 +0100 Subject: eye tracking & e-prime2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Jan (is that Jan-Rouke? How are you?), If a) your experiment works in E-Prime 1 (with e-prime extensions for Tobii), then, when importing the whole thing to E-Prime 2, it doesn't anymore, I'd also suspect there's something wrong with the E-Prime 2-TET-package integration, probably best sorted by contacting the Tobii people. Certainly, b) if it crashes even with just StartTracking (which is required anyway), there's no reason to think that video as such is the problem. So, it's a long shot, but have you tried updating your TET packages? And yes, as for my earlier suggestion, there's software out there (virtualdub, http://www.virtualdub.org/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=34) to make your life easier. That is, exporting .avi at 25 Hz (or whatever framerate they are) writing out [originalname number], then making a loop over "number" with images showing every 40 ms, is pretty easy to accomplish, I should think (especially if you won't care about the occasional tearing). Best, Mich Michiel Spapé Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jkuipers Sent: 21 September 2011 20:28 To: E-Prime Subject: eye tracking & e-prime2 Hi all, I was wondering whether any of you has had trouble with getting the TET server working (e-prime extentions for Tobii) with e-prime 2. I have, for a while, a nice setup working in e-prime1 but I need to display movies now. I noticed Michiel suggested in another discussion to use frames in e-prime 1 instead of movies, but I do not want to resort to that just yet. Now, Clearview is working in e-prime2, also I can open/connect TET but when any other comminication is required (TrackStatus, StartTracking) it crashes (no message why). So maybe there is a bug in the TET program (the sample of e-prime does not work either) just as was the case with earlier versions of the package for e-prime 1 (Clearvier and TET would not work in te same experiment, to be sorted by disabling the sentence Const DEVICE_CLOSED = 0 in one of the packages). Anyway, I have been at it for 2 days now and it is getting on my nerves. Thanks! Jan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. 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To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From j.kuipers at bangor.ac.uk Thu Sep 22 13:34:11 2011 From: j.kuipers at bangor.ac.uk (jkuipers) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 06:34:11 -0700 Subject: eye tracking & e-prime2 In-Reply-To: <09DAEA8BC192C94EB62C8E71FC35A5D9308F77C153@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hoi Michiel, alles goed! En jij? (That is Dutch) Thanks for your reply. I have made a new exp, not copied a working one over, but even a sample of eprime does not work. I have contacted the helpdesk, so maybe they have an idea. I have the latest version I think, but I am not always happy to install newer versions because E-prime seems to encrypt the program more each time which makes manipulating and viewing the script more difficult e.g., the TET and Clearview packages used to be free to change, but the version of EP2 is protected. (we can still read it though in the full script..) I will try the frames, that may be handy sometime anyway. Cheers, Jan (Rouke) On Sep 22, 10:03 am, Michiel Spape wrote: > Hi Jan (is that Jan-Rouke? How are you?), > If a) your experiment works in E-Prime 1 (with e-prime extensions for Tobii), then, when importing the whole thing to E-Prime 2, it doesn't anymore, I'd also suspect there's something wrong with the E-Prime 2-TET-package integration, probably best sorted by contacting the Tobii people. Certainly, b) if it crashes even with just StartTracking (which is required anyway), there's no reason to think that video as such is the problem. So, it's a long shot, but have you tried updating your TET packages? > > And yes, as for my earlier suggestion, there's software out there (virtualdub,http://www.virtualdub.org/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=34) to make your life easier. That is, exporting .avi at 25 Hz (or whatever framerate they are) writing out [originalname number], then making a loop over "number" with images showing every 40 ms, is pretty easy to accomplish, I should think (especially if you won't care about the occasional tearing). > > Best, > Mich > > Michiel Spapé > Research Fellow > Perception & Action group > University of Nottingham > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jkuipers > Sent: 21 September 2011 20:28 > To: E-Prime > Subject: eye tracking & e-prime2 > > Hi all, > > I was wondering whether any of you has had trouble with getting the > TET server working (e-prime extentions for Tobii) with e-prime 2. I > have, for a while, a nice setup working in e-prime1 but I need to > display movies now. I noticed Michiel suggested in another discussion > to use frames in e-prime 1 instead of movies, but I do not want to > resort to that just yet. > Now, Clearview is working in e-prime2, also I can open/connect TET but > when any other comminication is required (TrackStatus, StartTracking) > it crashes (no message why). So maybe there is a bug in the TET > program (the sample of e-prime does not work either) just as was the > case with earlier versions of the package for e-prime 1 (Clearvier and > TET would not work in te same experiment, to be sorted by disabling > the sentence Const DEVICE_CLOSED = 0 in one of the packages). > Anyway, I have been at it for 2 days now and it is getting on my > nerves. > > Thanks! > > Jan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From erinjoneshiggins at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 14:26:57 2011 From: erinjoneshiggins at gmail.com (Erin) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 07:26:57 -0700 Subject: issue with multiple levels of nested lists In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for your help, Anne. Unfortunately the problem still exists that this program is only sampling from one list. The goal is to get the program to draw 2 items from different lists at the lowest level on each trial - it makes things a bit more complicated ;). I modified your program to show you what I mean by that, but for some reason I am unable to figure out how to attach things on here so I guess this description will have to do. Cheers! Erin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From atieh.moonlight at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 19:38:40 2011 From: atieh.moonlight at gmail.com (atieh bakhtiar) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:38:40 -0400 Subject: Sound object runtime error: Unable to communicate with thread that finds the sound buffer contents Message-ID: Hello, We are trying to run an eprime program which contains about 80 sound objects. Initially, the program was running successfully, however, after a couple of runs, it has stopped working and gave us the following runtime error: The following runtime error has occurred: Unable to communicate with thread that finds the sound buffer contents Extra1:441000 Extra2:0 Extra3:29866667 Extra4:No Extra5:263424 Error Number: -999 Does anyone have any idea how we can solve this problem? We have upgraded our eprime (2.0.8.90), but the problem still exist. Also, in the folder where the sound files (.wav) exist, after each run, the program generates .xml files. Any idea why these files are being created? Thanks a lot, Atieh Bakhtiar -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Sep 23 21:27:57 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:27:57 -0400 Subject: Sound object runtime error: Unable to communicate with thread that finds the sound buffer contents In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Atieh, http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=e-prime+enable+to+communicate+with+thread+that+finds+the+sound+buffer+contents That may not exaclty answer your first question, but it should serve as a starting point. As to your second question, you must be referring to files of the form -AudioLoadReport.xml. So similarly, http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=e-prime+audioloadreport.xml would serve as a starting point -- in short, these appear to serve a similar function to the movie VideoLoadReport.xml files, which was addressed at http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic2847-12-1.aspx (when they were called FilterDump.bin files). Finally, do not neglect PST's trained staff at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , they strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of it. And if you do get an answer from PST Web Support, please extend the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." (Richard Feynman, Nobel prize-winning physicist) >We are trying to run an eprime program which contains about 80 sound >objects. Initially, the program was running successfully, however, >after a couple of runs, it has stopped working and gave us the >following runtime error: > >The following runtime error has occurred: >Unable to communicate with thread that finds the sound buffer contents >Extra1:441000 >Extra2:0 >Extra3:29866667 >Extra4:No >Extra5:263424 > >Error Number: -999 > >Does anyone have any idea how we can solve this problem? We have >upgraded our eprime (2.0.8.90), but the problem still exist. > >Also, in the folder where the sound files (.wav) exist, after each >run, the program generates .xml files. Any idea why these files are >being created? > >Thanks a lot, > >Atieh Bakhtiar -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From cjp872 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 22:16:13 2011 From: cjp872 at gmail.com (cjp87) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:16:13 -0700 Subject: E-Run program not working on Windows 7, works on XP computer the files were compiled on. Message-ID: The problem seems to occur when it tries to load a video (the program runs up until that point). Upon switching to the video frame, the program fails with an error code "11045, File Name on MovieDisplay has not been set". The problem with this is that the filename (and path) is set and identical on all computers, and it works on my one XP computer, but does not on the three Windows 7 computers I tried it on. Unfortunately, I need to use the three Windows 7 computers to run participants next week, up to three at a time. I know I don't have a ton of details, but it seems that the problem is related to the operating system. E-prime worked just fine last semester on these computers, but I didn't try to load any videos in e- prime for those studies. Has anyone come across this problem before? Is there anything I can add that will help you guys understand what's going on? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From liwenna at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 12:02:45 2011 From: liwenna at gmail.com (liwenna) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 05:02:45 -0700 Subject: issue with multiple levels of nested lists In-Reply-To: <4cf4d346-ee7d-45e1-9848-c31829c72ec9@y7g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Erin, Thanks for the added details. Could it than be that the items that need to be drawn from the two nested lists, each come from an attirbute with the same name? (I called them "item" or "stim" in my example I think?). If so: that ought to be confusing to e-prime as the program could not know whether to take the item from the attribute item in the one list or the other. The reason I thought that you'd need two stims drawn from the same list (type) is that for combinations of attributes you don't even need the [stim:0] resolvement method. A higher level list can contain one of the stimitems (attribute stim1), while a nested lists can contain the others (attribute stim2). This doesn't happen to be a dot probe your building?? best, liw On 23 sep, 16:26, Erin wrote: > Thanks for your help, Anne.  Unfortunately the problem still exists > that this program is only sampling from one list. The goal is to get > the program to draw 2 items from different lists at the lowest level > on each trial  - it makes things a bit more complicated ;).  I > modified your program to show you what I mean by that, but for some > reason I am unable to figure out how to attach things on here so I > guess this description will have to do. > > Cheers! > Erin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Sep 26 09:34:25 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 10:34:25 +0100 Subject: E-Run program not working on Windows 7, works on XP computer the files were compiled on. In-Reply-To: <6847962b-87ee-4f53-b80f-e758c287d71d@t11g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi, What a weird error... To be sure, however, could you see whether something /does/ work if you make an extremely simple experiment, just running that very video you want to use (one procedure with just the moviedisplay)? So, first try to see whether the simplest thing ever, including your video file, runs on the win7 pc, and only then go on with the more complex one. One of the things I had in mind which might be 'OS-related', is that if you should store your videos in documents and settings\my videos\ etc, then this folder is different between OS'es, thus running into problems. To be sure, always put your .avi (and .bmp and whatnot) files in the same directory as the experiment, and always use relative paths. Anyway, you might also try add a little inline just before the moviedisplay to see whether indeed, the filename is set, something like Debug.print "File name is: " & MovieDisplayObjectName.FileName I mean, if the filename is indeed not set (which E-Prime seems to claim), then there seems very little reason the OS is responsible for that. Best, Mich Michiel Spapé Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of cjp87 Sent: 23 September 2011 23:16 To: E-Prime Subject: E-Run program not working on Windows 7, works on XP computer the files were compiled on. The problem seems to occur when it tries to load a video (the program runs up until that point). Upon switching to the video frame, the program fails with an error code "11045, File Name on MovieDisplay has not been set". The problem with this is that the filename (and path) is set and identical on all computers, and it works on my one XP computer, but does not on the three Windows 7 computers I tried it on. Unfortunately, I need to use the three Windows 7 computers to run participants next week, up to three at a time. I know I don't have a ton of details, but it seems that the problem is related to the operating system. E-prime worked just fine last semester on these computers, but I didn't try to load any videos in e- prime for those studies. Has anyone come across this problem before? Is there anything I can add that will help you guys understand what's going on? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. 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For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From janet.trammell at gmail.com Mon Sep 26 12:05:56 2011 From: janet.trammell at gmail.com (Janet Trammell) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:05:56 -0400 Subject: E-Run program not working on Windows 7, works on XP computer the files were compiled on. In-Reply-To: <6847962b-87ee-4f53-b80f-e758c287d71d@t11g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: I had a similar problem, where I could not get e-run 2.0 to work on windows 7. I tried everything I and eprime support could think of. In the end, the only thing that worked was installing the entire eprime suite, not just e-run, on all of the testing computers. I have no idea why that suddenly made e-run work fine, especially since I only use e-run and don't open e-studio or other programs (except for once when I first installed it on each computer) , but it solved all the problems. Janet On Sep 23, 2011 6:16 PM, "cjp87" wrote: > The problem seems to occur when it tries to load a video (the program > runs up until that point). Upon switching to the video frame, the > program fails with an error code "11045, File Name on MovieDisplay has > not been set". The problem with this is that the filename (and path) > is set and identical on all computers, and it works on my one XP > computer, but does not on the three Windows 7 computers I tried it on. > Unfortunately, I need to use the three Windows 7 computers to run > participants next week, up to three at a time. > > I know I don't have a ton of details, but it seems that the problem is > related to the operating system. E-prime worked just fine last > semester on these computers, but I didn't try to load any videos in e- > prime for those studies. > > Has anyone come across this problem before? 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URL: From giladsabo at gmail.com Mon Sep 26 13:44:12 2011 From: giladsabo at gmail.com (gilis) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 06:44:12 -0700 Subject: Defining the location of dialog box Message-ID: Dear all, In my experiment people are asked to insert text through a dialog box (askbox)-the issue is that they have to enter the text while the image stimuli are still visible so it appear that the askbox always covert part of the stimulus that should be seen. My question is how can I define the location of the dialog box in the display. Many thanks Gilis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Sep 26 13:57:28 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:57:28 +0100 Subject: Defining the location of dialog box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Gilis, Interesting question, but it seems like it's already answered in the helpfile: InputBox[$](prompt [, [title] [, [default] [,[xpos],[ypos] [,helpfile,context]]]]) So: Dim a as string a = inputbox("what is a", "myTitle", "null", 2000, 5000) ...Will display an inputbox at x,y = 2000,5000. Careful, x/y is defined in twips. Twips? Twentieths of a point. Learn something new every day! Best, Michiel Spapé Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gilis Sent: 26 September 2011 14:44 To: E-Prime Subject: Defining the location of dialog box Dear all, In my experiment people are asked to insert text through a dialog box (askbox)-the issue is that they have to enter the text while the image stimuli are still visible so it appear that the askbox always covert part of the stimulus that should be seen. My question is how can I define the location of the dialog box in the display. Many thanks Gilis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From cjp872 at gmail.com Mon Sep 26 15:17:56 2011 From: cjp872 at gmail.com (cjp87) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:17:56 -0700 Subject: E-Run program not working on Windows 7, works on XP computer the files were compiled on. In-Reply-To: <09DAEA8BC192C94EB62C8E71FC35A5D9308F77C37B@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I just tried a few things. I made a program that was just the video in a moviedisplay, which worked as intended on the E-Studio computer (from both the E-studio file and the E-run file). I ran it on another XP pc besides the one it was coded on, and it gives the same error. Searching for e-prime error 11045 gives no results anywhere (including pstnet.com). The folders are all embedded, so that shouldn't be a problem (the filepath starts with Materials/Justin/etc., all of which is within the folder the e-run file is in, so the varying documents and settings names shouldn't matter). I also tried using the inline code you supplied (and tried a few variations of it just in case that was a little over-generic), but there was no change (still worked on the computer with E-Studio, still didn't work on any other computer). All the files themselves should be identical across computers, as they're just within a dropbox shared folder, so any changes to one affects each computer. I'm running out of ideas, and for the life of me can't figure out why it would work just fine on the one computer, but not any others, if all the files are identical (and now I know the operating system isn't an issue). On Sep 26, 4:34 am, Michiel Spape wrote: > Hi, > What a weird error... To be sure, however, could you see whether something /does/ work if you make an extremely simple experiment, just running that very video you want to use (one procedure with just the moviedisplay)? So, first try to see whether the simplest thing ever, including your video file, runs on the win7 pc, and only then go on with the more complex one. One of the things I had in mind which might be 'OS-related', is that if you should store your videos in documents and settings\my videos\ etc, then this folder is different between OS'es, thus running into problems. To be sure, always put your .avi (and .bmp and whatnot) files in the same directory as the experiment, and always use relative paths. Anyway, you might also try add a little inline just before the moviedisplay to see whether indeed, the filename is set, something like > Debug.print "File name is: " & MovieDisplayObjectName.FileName > > I mean, if the filename is indeed not set (which E-Prime seems to claim), then there seems very little reason the OS is responsible for that. > > Best, > Mich > > Michiel Spapé > Research Fellow > Perception & Action group > University of Nottingham > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of cjp87 > Sent: 23 September 2011 23:16 > To: E-Prime > Subject: E-Run program not working on Windows 7, works on XP computer the files were compiled on. > > The problem seems to occur when it tries to load a video (the program > runs up until that point). Upon switching to the video frame, the > program fails with an error code "11045, File Name on MovieDisplay has > not been set". The problem with this is that the filename (and path) > is set and identical on all computers, and it works on my one XP > computer, but does not on the three Windows 7 computers I tried it on. > Unfortunately, I need to use the three Windows 7 computers to run > participants next week, up to three at a time. > > I know I don't have a ton of details, but it seems that the problem is > related to the operating system. E-prime worked just fine last > semester on these computers, but I didn't try to load any videos in e- > prime for those studies. > > Has anyone come across this problem before? Is there anything I can > add that will help you guys understand what's going on? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it.   Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment.  Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Mon Sep 26 17:40:52 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:40:52 -0400 Subject: Defining the location of dialog box In-Reply-To: <09DAEA8BC192C94EB62C8E71FC35A5D9308F77C45B@EXCHANGE3.ad.no ttingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Gilis, Michiel already answered the question as posed. I would add that you could accomplish much the same end by using an input mask with an increased Max Count and adding an Echo Client, which could provide a more seamless look, but admittedly that does take rather more finesse than a simple InputBox. -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder At 9/26/2011 09:57 AM Monday, Michiel Spape wrote: >Hi Gilis, >Interesting question, but it seems like it's already answered in the helpfile: >InputBox[$](prompt [, [title] [, [default] >[,[xpos],[ypos] [,helpfile,context]]]]) >So: >Dim a as string >a = inputbox("what is a", "myTitle", "null", 2000, 5000) > >...Will display an inputbox at x,y = 2000,5000. >Careful, x/y is defined in twips. Twips? >Twentieths of a point. Learn something new every day! >Best, > >Michiel Spapé >Research Fellow >Perception & Action group >University of Nottingham >School of Psychology >www.cognitology.eu > > >-----Original Message----- >From: e-prime at googlegroups.com >[mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gilis >Sent: 26 September 2011 14:44 >To: E-Prime >Subject: Defining the location of dialog box > >Dear all, > >In my experiment people are asked to insert text through a dialog box >(askbox)-the issue is that they have to enter the text while the image >stimuli are still visible so it appear that the askbox always covert >part of the stimulus that should be seen. My question is how can I >define the location of the dialog box in the display. > >Many thanks >Gilis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Mon Sep 26 18:33:31 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:33:31 -0400 Subject: E-Run program not working on Windows 7, works on XP computer the files were compiled on. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Weighing in, although I don't have much to offer... First, Janet, thanks for your story about having better success using a full installation of EP instead of the "subject-running" installation. This confirms what I have said elsewhere -- as long as you have a full license for EP, you should *always* do a *full* installation, never do the "subject-running" installation. I do not understand why anyone (with a full license) ever does a "subject-running" installation instead of a full one, the full installation has no disadvantage while providing several advantages. Next, cjp87, if you search this Group or the PST Forum for threads on Vista, Windows 7, or more specifically Vista/Windows 7 plus sound or movies, you will find that EP2 has had trouble with sound and movies under Vista/7 from the beginning. By contrast, sound works fine for EP1 under Vista/7, and sound & movies seem OK for EP2 under XP. So around here, whenever we get a new PC to use for running subjects, although it comes with Window 7 we immediately reformat it for XP. We still use Windows 7 for *developing* EP programs, but not for running subjects (except possibly for tasks that do not use sound or movies). Maybe sound & video will finally get fixed in the upcoming release of EP2.0.10.x, but I am not holding my breath. But you have now gone further (thanks!) and confirmed that you can get the same error on another XP machine, so this seems to not be a Vista/7 problem. I do wonder about putting the movie files in a "dropbox shared folder", probably because I do not understand DropBox enough. I would want the files to live locally on each computer, and not have to access them over a network connection at runtime. But the error message of "File Name on MovieDisplay has not been set" makes it sound like it does not even get as far as looking for the file, that does sound like the MovieDisplay object does not even have a file name to work with, which as you say is really weird. I might have also suspected a codec problem, which is very common, but again this error message seems to come before you have a chance to have a codec problem. And to be sure, I also looked for the "11045" message, and like you drew a blank. Anyway, this all leads up the advice that I usually lead with -- take this up PST Web Support at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp -- they strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours, and this is pretty much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of it. And then please post back here with the results. In the meantime, if it were me and I wanted to do further debugging, I would try to find some way to have EP show me what file name it *thinks* it is sending to the MovieDisplay, although offhand I can't think of how to do that. Or, with your stripped-down test version, use the file browser in MovieDisplay to directly put the file name right in explicitly. Or, try putting the file into the same folder as your program instead of in a subfolder, and see if that makes any difference. Good luck, -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder At 9/26/2011 08:05 AM Monday, Janet Trammell wrote: >I had a similar problem, where I could not get e-run 2.0 to work on >windows 7. I tried everything I and eprime support could think >of. In the end, the only thing that worked was installing the >entire eprime suite, not just e-run, on all of the testing >computers. I have no idea why that suddenly made e-run work fine, >especially since I only use e-run and don't open e-studio or other >programs (except for once when I first installed it on each >computer) , but it solved all the problems. >Janet >On Sep 23, 2011 6:16 PM, "cjp87" ><cjp872 at gmail.com> wrote: > > The problem seems to occur when it tries to load a video (the program > > runs up until that point). Upon switching to the video frame, the > > program fails with an error code "11045, File Name on MovieDisplay has > > not been set". The problem with this is that the filename (and path) > > is set and identical on all computers, and it works on my one XP > > computer, but does not on the three Windows 7 computers I tried it on. > > Unfortunately, I need to use the three Windows 7 computers to run > > participants next week, up to three at a time. > > > > I know I don't have a ton of details, but it seems that the problem is > > related to the operating system. E-prime worked just fine last > > semester on these computers, but I didn't try to load any videos in e- > > prime for those studies. > > > > Has anyone come across this problem before? Is there anything I can > > add that will help you guys understand what's going on? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From giladsabo at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 09:10:43 2011 From: giladsabo at gmail.com (gilis) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 02:10:43 -0700 Subject: Defining the location of dialog box In-Reply-To: <4e80b945.4a962a0a.3f58.1d9aSMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thank you both, I've tried Michiel solution but regardless the values I used (from 20, 30 to 2000,5000) the ask box remained in the same position in the display. I would be happy to hear your advise on how to solve this issue. On Sep 26, 8:40 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > Gilis, > > Michiel already answered the question as > posed.  I would add that you could accomplish > much the same end by using an input mask with an > increased Max Count and adding an Echo Client, > which could provide a more seamless look, but > admittedly that does take rather more finesse than a simple InputBox. > > -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder > > At 9/26/2011 09:57 AM Monday, Michiel Spape wrote: > > > > > > > > >Hi Gilis, > >Interesting question, but it seems like it's already answered in the helpfile: > >InputBox[$](prompt [, [title] [, [default] > >[,[xpos],[ypos] [,helpfile,context]]]]) > >So: > >Dim a as string > >a = inputbox("what is a", "myTitle", "null", 2000, 5000) > > >...Will display an inputbox at x,y = 2000,5000. > >Careful, x/y is defined in twips. Twips? > >Twentieths of a point. Learn something new every day! > >Best, > > >Michiel Spapé > >Research Fellow > >Perception & Action group > >University of Nottingham > >School of Psychology > >www.cognitology.eu > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: e-prime at googlegroups.com > >[mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gilis > >Sent: 26 September 2011 14:44 > >To: E-Prime > >Subject: Defining the location of dialog box > > >Dear all, > > >In my experiment people are asked to insert text through a dialog box > >(askbox)-the issue is that they have to enter the text while the image > >stimuli are still visible so it appear that the askbox always covert > >part of the stimulus that should be seen. My question is how can I > >define the location of the dialog box in the display. > > >Many thanks > >Gilis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 11:02:45 2011 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:02:45 -0400 Subject: Defining the location of dialog box In-Reply-To: <3c9e05b9-55d3-49a0-b27a-c7a65302a19a@12g2000vbu.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: why not try using david's suggestion of echoing participants keyboard responses to screen? set up a slide object with two subobjects - one subobject displays your image, the other subobject displays participants' text by echoing the keyboard responses. on that text subobject have two keyboard input masks enabled - with one input mask allow all button presses and 255 characters with an end action of None, and with the other keyboard only allow, say, {ENTER} with an end action set to Terminate. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:10 AM, gilis wrote: > Thank you both, I've tried Michiel solution but regardless the values > I used (from 20, 30 to 2000,5000) the ask box remained in the same > position in the display. I would be happy to hear your advise on how > to solve this issue. > > On Sep 26, 8:40 pm, David McFarlane wrote: >> Gilis, >> >> Michiel already answered the question as >> posed.  I would add that you could accomplish >> much the same end by using an input mask with an >> increased Max Count and adding an Echo Client, >> which could provide a more seamless look, but >> admittedly that does take rather more finesse than a simple InputBox. >> >> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder >> >> At 9/26/2011 09:57 AM Monday, Michiel Spape wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Hi Gilis, >> >Interesting question, but it seems like it's already answered in the helpfile: >> >InputBox[$](prompt [, [title] [, [default] >> >[,[xpos],[ypos] [,helpfile,context]]]]) >> >So: >> >Dim a as string >> >a = inputbox("what is a", "myTitle", "null", 2000, 5000) >> >> >...Will display an inputbox at x,y = 2000,5000. >> >Careful, x/y is defined in twips. Twips? >> >Twentieths of a point. Learn something new every day! >> >Best, >> >> >Michiel Spapé >> >Research Fellow >> >Perception & Action group >> >University of Nottingham >> >School of Psychology >> >www.cognitology.eu >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: e-prime at googlegroups.com >> >[mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gilis >> >Sent: 26 September 2011 14:44 >> >To: E-Prime >> >Subject: Defining the location of dialog box >> >> >Dear all, >> >> >In my experiment people are asked to insert text through a dialog box >> >(askbox)-the issue is that they have to enter the text while the image >> >stimuli are still visible so it appear that the askbox always covert >> >part of the stimulus that should be seen. My question is how can I >> >define the location of the dialog box in the display. >> >> >Many thanks >> >Gilis > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From giladsabo at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 11:11:46 2011 From: giladsabo at gmail.com (gilis) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:11:46 -0700 Subject: Defining the location of dialog box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Because in this case my language fonts are not supported by eprime.. On Sep 27, 2:02 pm, ben robinson wrote: > why not try using david's suggestion of echoing participants keyboard > responses to screen?  set up a slide object with two subobjects - one > subobject displays your image, the other subobject displays > participants' text by echoing the keyboard responses.  on that text > subobject have two keyboard input masks enabled - with one input mask > allow all button presses and 255 characters with an end action of > None, and with the other keyboard only allow, say, {ENTER} with an end > action set to Terminate. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:10 AM, gilis wrote: > > Thank you both, I've tried Michiel solution but regardless the values > > I used (from 20, 30 to 2000,5000) the ask box remained in the same > > position in the display. I would be happy to hear your advise on how > > to solve this issue. > > > On Sep 26, 8:40 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > >> Gilis, > > >> Michiel already answered the question as > >> posed.  I would add that you could accomplish > >> much the same end by using an input mask with an > >> increased Max Count and adding an Echo Client, > >> which could provide a more seamless look, but > >> admittedly that does take rather more finesse than a simple InputBox. > > >> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder > > >> At 9/26/2011 09:57 AM Monday, Michiel Spape wrote: > > >> >Hi Gilis, > >> >Interesting question, but it seems like it's already answered in the helpfile: > >> >InputBox[$](prompt [, [title] [, [default] > >> >[,[xpos],[ypos] [,helpfile,context]]]]) > >> >So: > >> >Dim a as string > >> >a = inputbox("what is a", "myTitle", "null", 2000, 5000) > > >> >...Will display an inputbox at x,y = 2000,5000. > >> >Careful, x/y is defined in twips. Twips? > >> >Twentieths of a point. Learn something new every day! > >> >Best, > > >> >Michiel Spapé > >> >Research Fellow > >> >Perception & Action group > >> >University of Nottingham > >> >School of Psychology > >> >www.cognitology.eu > > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: e-prime at googlegroups.com > >> >[mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gilis > >> >Sent: 26 September 2011 14:44 > >> >To: E-Prime > >> >Subject: Defining the location of dialog box > > >> >Dear all, > > >> >In my experiment people are asked to insert text through a dialog box > >> >(askbox)-the issue is that they have to enter the text while the image > >> >stimuli are still visible so it appear that the askbox always covert > >> >part of the stimulus that should be seen. My question is how can I > >> >define the location of the dialog box in the display. > > >> >Many thanks > >> >Gilis > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From l.bugayong at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 11:46:18 2011 From: l.bugayong at gmail.com (Suli) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:46:18 -0700 Subject: Any way to "force" a mouse click? Message-ID: Dear Community, I wonder if anyone can help me: I have a set of 3 slides and subjects need to click on an image on each of those slides. Depending on the task from the stimulus, they have the option of doing clicks on just the first 2 slides and then moving on with the space-key OR doing clicks on all three slides. So, in the Duration/Input tab of the 2nd slide, I set the Mouse & Keyboard as Input Masks. For my practice-list, I'd like to provide the subjects with feedback: The inline gathers the accuracy of the response and if it was inaccurate, E-Prime goes to a negative-feedback slide and the subjects can try again. My problem is that if the stimulus requires them to do three clicks, I can't figure out how to "force" them to do a third click because even if they press SPACE on the second slide to move on, they E-Prime goes straight to the positive feedback slide. I'd be grateful for any insights and would be glad to upload my file for you to see. Suli -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Sep 27 12:28:18 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:28:18 +0100 Subject: Defining the location of dialog box In-Reply-To: <3c9e05b9-55d3-49a0-b27a-c7a65302a19a@12g2000vbu.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi, Are you sure? Could you make a new experiment, add a single inline and copy-paste this into it? ---------- dim i as integer dim a as string for i = 2000 to 8000 step 1000 a = inputbox("what is a", "myTitle", "null", i, 2000) next i ----------- Pressing enter clearly moves the inputbox by some (presumably 50?) pixels here, I don't really see what could go wrong there. That is, other than that one of the parameters was missing and e-basic accepts that anyway (converting, for instance, the i variable to the title) ... Best, Mich PS: I also prefer the echo client solution, but the above should still work! Michiel Spapé Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gilis Sent: 27 September 2011 10:11 To: E-Prime Subject: Re: Defining the location of dialog box Thank you both, I've tried Michiel solution but regardless the values I used (from 20, 30 to 2000,5000) the ask box remained in the same position in the display. I would be happy to hear your advise on how to solve this issue. On Sep 26, 8:40 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > Gilis, > > Michiel already answered the question as > posed.  I would add that you could accomplish > much the same end by using an input mask with an > increased Max Count and adding an Echo Client, > which could provide a more seamless look, but > admittedly that does take rather more finesse than a simple InputBox. > > -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder > > At 9/26/2011 09:57 AM Monday, Michiel Spape wrote: > > > > > > > > >Hi Gilis, > >Interesting question, but it seems like it's already answered in the helpfile: > >InputBox[$](prompt [, [title] [, [default] > >[,[xpos],[ypos] [,helpfile,context]]]]) > >So: > >Dim a as string > >a = inputbox("what is a", "myTitle", "null", 2000, 5000) > > >...Will display an inputbox at x,y = 2000,5000. > >Careful, x/y is defined in twips. Twips? > >Twentieths of a point. Learn something new every day! > >Best, > > >Michiel Spapé > >Research Fellow > >Perception & Action group > >University of Nottingham > >School of Psychology > >www.cognitology.eu > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: e-prime at googlegroups.com > >[mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gilis > >Sent: 26 September 2011 14:44 > >To: E-Prime > >Subject: Defining the location of dialog box > > >Dear all, > > >In my experiment people are asked to insert text through a dialog box > >(askbox)-the issue is that they have to enter the text while the image > >stimuli are still visible so it appear that the askbox always covert > >part of the stimulus that should be seen. My question is how can I > >define the location of the dialog box in the display. > > >Many thanks > >Gilis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Sep 27 12:34:08 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:34:08 +0100 Subject: Any way to "force" a mouse click? In-Reply-To: <1106bb60-5d3a-4925-a8eb-242b52c02207@d18g2000yql.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: How to force a mouse click? ... have you tried applying the cane? :) More generally, you could (as covered elsewhere on this list) of course check their response (or keep polling a slide until you find a response). Anyway, the combination of subject and question get me confused - perhaps you could give a more detailed explanation? How have you structured this? What does the inline do? Is there some spiderweb of goto statements involved? Best, Mich Michiel Spapé Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Suli Sent: 27 September 2011 12:46 To: E-Prime Subject: Any way to "force" a mouse click? Dear Community, I wonder if anyone can help me: I have a set of 3 slides and subjects need to click on an image on each of those slides. Depending on the task from the stimulus, they have the option of doing clicks on just the first 2 slides and then moving on with the space-key OR doing clicks on all three slides. So, in the Duration/Input tab of the 2nd slide, I set the Mouse & Keyboard as Input Masks. For my practice-list, I'd like to provide the subjects with feedback: The inline gathers the accuracy of the response and if it was inaccurate, E-Prime goes to a negative-feedback slide and the subjects can try again. My problem is that if the stimulus requires them to do three clicks, I can't figure out how to "force" them to do a third click because even if they press SPACE on the second slide to move on, they E-Prime goes straight to the positive feedback slide. I'd be grateful for any insights and would be glad to upload my file for you to see. Suli -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 14:07:14 2011 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:07:14 -0400 Subject: Any way to "force" a mouse click? In-Reply-To: <09DAEA8BC192C94EB62C8E71FC35A5D9308F77C5B6@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: it does sound like something that will require an inline. perhaps something like If Slide3.RESP = "{SPACE}" Then... don't go straight to positive feedback. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Michiel Spape wrote: > How to force a mouse click? > ... have you tried applying the cane? :) > > More generally, you could (as covered elsewhere on this list) of course check their response (or keep polling a slide until you find a response). Anyway, the combination of subject and question get me confused - perhaps you could give a more detailed explanation? How have you structured this? What does the inline do? Is there some spiderweb of goto statements involved? > Best, > Mich > > Michiel Spapé > Research Fellow > Perception & Action group > University of Nottingham > School of Psychology > www.cognitology.eu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Suli > Sent: 27 September 2011 12:46 > To: E-Prime > Subject: Any way to "force" a mouse click? > > Dear Community, > > I wonder if anyone can help me: I have a set of 3 slides and subjects > need to click on an image on each of those slides. Depending on the > task from the stimulus, they have the option of doing clicks on just > the first 2 slides and then moving on with the space-key OR doing > clicks on all three slides. So, in the Duration/Input tab of the 2nd > slide, I set the Mouse & Keyboard as Input Masks. > > For my practice-list, I'd like to provide the subjects with feedback: > The inline gathers the accuracy of the response and if it was > inaccurate, E-Prime goes to a negative-feedback slide and the subjects > can try again. My problem is that if the stimulus requires them to do > three clicks, I can't figure out how to "force" them to do a third > click because even if they press SPACE on the second slide to move on, > they E-Prime goes straight to the positive feedback slide. > > I'd be grateful for any insights and would be glad to upload my file > for you to see. > > Suli > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Tue Sep 27 14:43:46 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:43:46 -0400 Subject: Defining the location of dialog box In-Reply-To: <3c9e05b9-55d3-49a0-b27a-c7a65302a19a@12g2000vbu.googlegrou ps.com> Message-ID: Gilis, Um, read Michiel's answer again (and check the E-Basic Help topics yourself). Note that he referred to the InputBox$() function, *not* AskBox$(). The two provide similar functionality, except that InputBox$() positions its response buttons vertically while AskBox$() positions its response buttons horizonally, and InputBox$() includes arguments for xpos & ypos whereas AskBox$() does not. Furthermore, if you Google around for "vba inputbox" and "vba askbox", you will find that InputBox$() is a standard function of VBA (from which E-Basic is derived), while AskBox$() is not. So if you want to stick to well-known standardized functions rather than ones peculiar to E-Basic, you will use InputBox$() instead of AskBox$(). So give that another try. I just tried these out myself and they worked as described. -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder At 9/27/2011 05:10 AM Tuesday, you wrote: >Thank you both, I've tried Michiel solution but regardless the values >I used (from 20, 30 to 2000,5000) the ask box remained in the same >position in the display. I would be happy to hear your advise on how >to solve this issue. > >On Sep 26, 8:40 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > > Gilis, > > > > Michiel already answered the question as > > posed. I would add that you could accomplish > > much the same end by using an input mask with an > > increased Max Count and adding an Echo Client, > > which could provide a more seamless look, but > > admittedly that does take rather more finesse than a simple InputBox. > > > > -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder > > > > At 9/26/2011 09:57 AM Monday, Michiel Spape wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Gilis, > > >Interesting question, but it seems like it's > already answered in the helpfile: > > >InputBox[$](prompt [, [title] [, [default] > > >[,[xpos],[ypos] [,helpfile,context]]]]) > > >So: > > >Dim a as string > > >a = inputbox("what is a", "myTitle", "null", 2000, 5000) > > > > >...Will display an inputbox at x,y = 2000,5000. > > >Careful, x/y is defined in twips. Twips? > > >Twentieths of a point. Learn something new every day! > > >Best, > > > > >Michiel Spapé > > >Research Fellow > > >Perception & Action group > > >University of Nottingham > > >School of Psychology > > >www.cognitology.eu > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: e-prime at googlegroups.com > > >[mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gilis > > >Sent: 26 September 2011 14:44 > > >To: E-Prime > > >Subject: Defining the location of dialog box > > > > >Dear all, > > > > >In my experiment people are asked to insert text through a dialog box > > >(askbox)-the issue is that they have to enter the text while the image > > >stimuli are still visible so it appear that the askbox always covert > > >part of the stimulus that should be seen. My question is how can I > > >define the location of the dialog box in the display. > > > > >Many thanks > > >Gilis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From waltpipedawgs at gmail.com Thu Sep 1 00:09:18 2011 From: waltpipedawgs at gmail.com (Walter Piper) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:09:18 -0700 Subject: Multiple Mouse Click Question In-Reply-To: <24baa382-cf0f-4aa7-b282-cf7313a72b79@fi7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Here's what I recommend based on the limited experience I have: On the slide, place a text box for each of the possible choices. Since you have 2 sets of choices, place 26 text boxes on one side of the slide, and 26 text boxes on the other. Each text box will hold a different letter, and the name of each text box will be "1a", "1b",... "1z", "2a", "2b"... "2z". Also have a text box with the name "NEXT" that participant can click on when done selecting. These will serve as buttons of sort. Before the slide, create an InLine that declares 2 Boolean variables, and set them both to False. Also, create 2 String variables to hold the names of the textbox selected. """ dim Response1 as Boolean dim Response2 as Boolean Response1 = FALSE Response2 = FALSE dim R1String as String dim R2String as String """ Also, in this InLine, declare and manipulate some variables in order to get the mouse input - slide interface going. I'll just list off the code that I think will work for you and explain a little bit after the ' symbol (because I can't remember off the top of my head how it all works), but I'll be happy to figure it out if you need more explanation. """ dim SlideHit as SlideState 'Declares a variable that allows you to reference your slide. set SlideHit = Slide1.States("Default") 'This is assuming the name of your slide is "Slide1" and you're using the "Default" slide state. dim xSlide1 as SlideText 'Declares a variable that allows you to reference the text boxes/buttons. Mouse.ShowCursor TRUE 'Self-explanatory dim MouseHit as MouseResponseData dim MouseString as String dim MouseRow as String """ This should be sufficient for the InLine before the slide. Now, create a label between the InLine and the slide called "FromStart". Create the slide as described above. Set the duration to "(infinite)". Add a mouse input in the slide properties, and set the end action to "Terminate". Uncheck the keyboard response. Create a new InLine after the slide, and a label after the InLine called "NextSlide". Start the InLine with: """ If Slide1.InputMasks.Responses.Count > 0 Then 'Launches action if there was a mouse response. Set MouseHit = CMouseResponseData(Slide1.InputMasks.Responses(1)) 'Checks to see what text box was clicked on. MouseString = SlideHit.HitTest.(MouseHit.CursorX, MouseHit.CursorY) 'Sets the previously created string as the name of the text box that was clicked on. MouseRow = Mid(MouseString, 1) 'Sets the MouseRow string as the first character of the textbox (In this case, 1 or 2) Select Case MouseRow 'Decides the next action based on whether MouseRow equals 1 or 2. Case "1" If Not R1String = "" Then Set xSlide1 = CSlideText(Slide1.States.Item("Default").Objects(R1String)) xSlide1.BackColor = CColor ("White") End If Set xSlide1 = CSlideText(Slide1.States.Item("Default").Objects(MouseString)) xSlide1.BackColor = CColor ("Red") R1 = TRUE R1String = MouseString Case "2" 'Copy and paste the above, but use the variables "R2String" and "R2" instead. Case "N" If R1 AND R2 = TRUE Then Goto NextSlide End If End Select End If Goto FromStart """ Create a third InLine after the label NextSlide. Write it as such: """ c.SetAttrib "Choice1.1", R1String c.SetAttrib "Choice1.2", R2String R1String = "" R2String = "" R1 = FALSE R2 = FALSE Set SlideHit = Slide2.States("Default") 'Assuming your next slide is called "Slide2" set xSlide1 = Nothing """ I THINK this should work. Sorry it's such a long-winded answer. Good luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From neil.mclatchie at googlemail.com Thu Sep 1 16:01:51 2011 From: neil.mclatchie at googlemail.com (Neil McLatchie) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:01:51 -0700 Subject: Participant likert scale Message-ID: Hi everyone, I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. Any help welcome! Cheers, Neil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 1 16:15:47 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:15:47 +0100 Subject: Participant likert scale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Neil, So, if I'm correct, this should be it, let me know if I forgot something. Add the following to some procedure: 1. TextDisplay, I'm calling it question. You can insert the question here ("how guilty") etc. 2. Inline with code: dim myNRESP as integer 'initializes an integer myNRESP = -1 'sets it to -1, for reasons that should be clear later 3. Label, called PreJump 4. Inline with code myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses 5. TextDisplay, I called it ResponseDisplay. It displays the following text [NRESP] (after the attribute created earlier); a maximum duration of whatever you'd like to be the final duration of your responses hammering (I made it 1000 ms here, default). An input object (I used my keyboard, any button allowed). And most important: end action: jump to label: PreJump. Voila - tested, works. Only thing to do is dump all this in a list and add your likert questions. Cheers, Mich Michiel Spap? Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie Sent: 01 September 2011 17:02 To: E-Prime Subject: Participant likert scale Hi everyone, I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. Any help welcome! Cheers, Neil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From neil.mclatchie at googlemail.com Thu Sep 1 16:27:37 2011 From: neil.mclatchie at googlemail.com (Neil McLatchie) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:27:37 -0700 Subject: Participant likert scale In-Reply-To: <09DAEA8BC192C94EB62C8E71FC35A5D9308F674B0A@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Wow, thank you for such a speedy response! As much as I appreciate it, I am afraid even though you made it sound simple, it has gone a bit over my head. As of point number 2, I'm left scratching my head a bit. I don't know what 'Inline with code' means, let alone 'dim myNRESPS...etc'. Sorry, I really do appreciate the help, and I apologise if I am just so new to this that I don't understand the most basic of things! Any chance you could talk me through it in baby steps? If not, thanks anyway for your reply! Neil On Sep 1, 5:15?pm, Michiel Spape wrote: > Hi Neil, > So, if I'm correct, this should be it, let me know if I forgot something. Add the following to some procedure: > 1. TextDisplay, I'm calling it question. You can insert the question here ("how guilty") etc. > 2. Inline with code: > dim myNRESP as integer 'initializes an integer > myNRESP = -1 'sets it to -1, for reasons that should be clear later > 3. Label, called PreJump > 4. Inline with code > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > 5. TextDisplay, I called it ResponseDisplay. It displays the following text [NRESP] (after the attribute created earlier); a maximum duration of whatever you'd like to be the final duration of your responses hammering (I made it 1000 ms here, default). An input object (I used my keyboard, any button allowed). And most important: end action: jump to label: PreJump. > > Voila - tested, works. Only thing to do is dump all this in a list and add your likert questions. > Cheers, > Mich > > Michiel Spap? > Research Fellow > Perception & Action group > University of Nottingham > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:02 > To: E-Prime > Subject: Participant likert scale > > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I > basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are > feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they > can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. > > Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you > feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. > They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how > guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it > to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 > times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then > confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. > > As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would > be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a > keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. > > Any help welcome! > > Cheers, > Neil > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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From neil.mclatchie at googlemail.com Thu Sep 1 16:28:56 2011 From: neil.mclatchie at googlemail.com (Neil McLatchie) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:28:56 -0700 Subject: Participant likert scale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ah hang on. Turns out I am dumber than I thought! Will get back in touch if I need any help. Apologies! On Sep 1, 5:27?pm, Neil McLatchie wrote: > Wow, thank you for such a speedy response! > > As much as I appreciate it, I am afraid even though you made it sound > simple, it has gone a bit over my head. As of point number 2, I'm left > scratching my head a bit. I don't know what 'Inline with code' means, > let alone 'dim myNRESPS...etc'. > > Sorry, I really do appreciate the help, and I apologise if I am just > so new to this that I don't understand the most basic of things! > > Any chance you could talk me through it in baby steps? > > If not, thanks anyway for your reply! > > Neil > > On Sep 1, 5:15?pm, Michiel Spape > wrote: > > > Hi Neil, > > So, if I'm correct, this should be it, let me know if I forgot something. Add the following to some procedure: > > 1. TextDisplay, I'm calling it question. You can insert the question here ("how guilty") etc. > > 2. Inline with code: > > dim myNRESP as integer 'initializes an integer > > myNRESP = -1 'sets it to -1, for reasons that should be clear later > > 3. Label, called PreJump > > 4. Inline with code > > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code > > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > > 5. TextDisplay, I called it ResponseDisplay. It displays the following text [NRESP] (after the attribute created earlier); a maximum duration of whatever you'd like to be the final duration of your responses hammering (I made it 1000 ms here, default). An input object (I used my keyboard, any button allowed). And most important: end action: jump to label: PreJump. > > > Voila - tested, works. Only thing to do is dump all this in a list and add your likert questions. > > Cheers, > > Mich > > > Michiel Spap? > > Research Fellow > > Perception & Action group > > University of Nottingham > > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:02 > > To: E-Prime > > Subject: Participant likert scale > > > Hi everyone, > > > I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I > > basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are > > feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they > > can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. > > > Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you > > feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. > > They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how > > guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it > > to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 > > times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then > > confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. > > > As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would > > be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a > > keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. > > > Any help welcome! > > > Cheers, > > Neil > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 1 16:40:44 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:40:44 +0100 Subject: Participant likert scale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Like so! ...i was writing: Hiya, I think those pretty much *were* babysteps, provided you've done enough with E-Prime to really work on it. If not, try having a go at the tutorial or the E-Primer (link elsewhere on this list, or on my own homepage around "about me"). It will be worth your while, and doesn't take all that long. Anyway, as said: Add an inline (just drag it), and copy-paste the following TWO lines: ------ myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses ------ That adds, automatically the attribute, even if you don't have a list. You'll ultimately need a list somewhere anywhere, but for now, this works. Best, Mich Michiel Spap? Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie Sent: 01 September 2011 17:37 To: E-Prime Subject: Re: Participant likert scale Hi again, sorry about the confusion earlier. I've done what you suggested. I'm a little thrown by part of 4. I've done everything else, but where do i create this attribute? Do i just put a list after the second inline and create it? On Sep 1, 5:15?pm, Michiel Spape wrote: > Hi Neil, > So, if I'm correct, this should be it, let me know if I forgot something. Add the following to some procedure: > 1. TextDisplay, I'm calling it question. You can insert the question here ("how guilty") etc. > 2. Inline with code: > dim myNRESP as integer 'initializes an integer > myNRESP = -1 'sets it to -1, for reasons that should be clear later > 3. Label, called PreJump > 4. Inline with code > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > 5. TextDisplay, I called it ResponseDisplay. It displays the following text [NRESP] (after the attribute created earlier); a maximum duration of whatever you'd like to be the final duration of your responses hammering (I made it 1000 ms here, default). An input object (I used my keyboard, any button allowed). And most important: end action: jump to label: PreJump. > > Voila - tested, works. Only thing to do is dump all this in a list and add your likert questions. > Cheers, > Mich > > Michiel Spap? > Research Fellow > Perception & Action group > University of Nottingham > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:02 > To: E-Prime > Subject: Participant likert scale > > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I > basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are > feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they > can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. > > Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you > feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. > They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how > guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it > to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 > times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then > confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. > > As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would > be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a > keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. > > Any help welcome! > > Cheers, > Neil > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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You can insert the question here ("how guilty") etc. > 2. Inline with code: > dim myNRESP as integer 'initializes an integer > myNRESP = -1 'sets it to -1, for reasons that should be clear later > 3. Label, called PreJump > 4. Inline with code > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > 5. TextDisplay, I called it ResponseDisplay. It displays the following text [NRESP] (after the attribute created earlier); a maximum duration of whatever you'd like to be the final duration of your responses hammering (I made it 1000 ms here, default). An input object (I used my keyboard, any button allowed). And most important: end action: jump to label: PreJump. > > Voila - tested, works. Only thing to do is dump all this in a list and add your likert questions. > Cheers, > Mich > > Michiel Spap? > Research Fellow > Perception & Action group > University of Nottingham > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:02 > To: E-Prime > Subject: Participant likert scale > > Hi everyone, > > I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I > basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are > feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they > can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. > > Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you > feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. > They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how > guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it > to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 > times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then > confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. > > As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would > be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a > keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. > > Any help welcome! > > Cheers, > Neil > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From neil.mclatchie at googlemail.com Thu Sep 1 17:21:25 2011 From: neil.mclatchie at googlemail.com (Neil McLatchie) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 10:21:25 -0700 Subject: Participant likert scale In-Reply-To: <09DAEA8BC192C94EB62C8E71FC35A5D9308F674B13@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thank you kindly for your help! At the moment I am using the mouse to increase the number. However, both buttons are doing the same thing, and there is no limit - I can click as many times as I like within the set time. If there is any way of a) looping the number so that once it gets to 7 it loops back round to 1, and b) to differentiate between right clicking increasing the number and left clicking terminating, it would be great. Thanks again for the help I've already received! Cheers, Neil On Sep 1, 5:40?pm, Michiel Spape wrote: > Like so! > ...i was writing: > Hiya, > I think those pretty much *were* babysteps, provided you've done enough with E-Prime to really work on it. If not, try having a go at the tutorial or the E-Primer (link elsewhere on this list, or on my own homepage around "about me"). It will be worth your while, and doesn't take all that long. > > Anyway, as said: > Add an inline (just drag it), and copy-paste the following TWO lines: > ------ > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > ------ > > That adds, automatically the attribute, even if you don't have a list. You'll ultimately need a list somewhere anywhere, but for now, this works. > Best, > Mich > > Michiel Spap? > Research Fellow > Perception & Action group > University of Nottingham > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:37 > To: E-Prime > Subject: Re: Participant likert scale > > Hi again, sorry about the confusion earlier. > > I've done what you suggested. I'm a little thrown by part of 4. I've > done everything else, but where do i create this attribute? Do i just > put a list after the second inline and create it? > > On Sep 1, 5:15?pm, Michiel Spape > wrote: > > Hi Neil, > > So, if I'm correct, this should be it, let me know if I forgot something. Add the following to some procedure: > > 1. TextDisplay, I'm calling it question. You can insert the question here ("how guilty") etc. > > 2. Inline with code: > > dim myNRESP as integer 'initializes an integer > > myNRESP = -1 'sets it to -1, for reasons that should be clear later > > 3. Label, called PreJump > > 4. Inline with code > > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code > > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > > 5. TextDisplay, I called it ResponseDisplay. It displays the following text [NRESP] (after the attribute created earlier); a maximum duration of whatever you'd like to be the final duration of your responses hammering (I made it 1000 ms here, default). An input object (I used my keyboard, any button allowed). And most important: end action: jump to label: PreJump. > > > Voila - tested, works. Only thing to do is dump all this in a list and add your likert questions. > > Cheers, > > Mich > > > Michiel Spap? > > Research Fellow > > Perception & Action group > > University of Nottingham > > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:02 > > To: E-Prime > > Subject: Participant likert scale > > > Hi everyone, > > > I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I > > basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are > > feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they > > can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. > > > Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you > > feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. > > They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how > > guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it > > to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 > > times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then > > confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. > > > As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would > > be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a > > keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. > > > Any help welcome! > > > Cheers, > > Neil > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Sep 2 09:11:34 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:11:34 +0100 Subject: Participant likert scale In-Reply-To: <080b8bf1-6047-42b8-b9a5-f6aed1e972e4@er4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hiya, Yes, well, I suppose you probably already figured this out, but the idea would be to add another inline after the last textdisplay, and don't do the end-action = jump label. With the bit of code in this inline, you'd 1) check response, 2) reset to 0 as in: switch (ResponseDisplay.Resp) { case "1": myNRESP+=1; if (myNRESP > 7) {myNRESP = 0;} goto PreJump; break; case "2": myNRESP-=1; if (myNRESP < 0) {myNRESP = 0;} goto PreJump; break; default: break; } You can see the above is a little mix of c# and e-basic. This is because A) c# is beautiful, B) I tend to forget the specifics of basic syntax (certainly regarding the switch statement), C) the proper way is somewhere in the e-basic help, and it pays to learn a bit. PS: David, and my fellow geeks, perhaps you'll enjoy this as much as I did: http://www.addedbytes.com/blog/if-php-were-british/ Cheers, Mich Michiel Spap? Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie Sent: 01 September 2011 18:21 To: E-Prime Subject: Re: Participant likert scale Thank you kindly for your help! At the moment I am using the mouse to increase the number. However, both buttons are doing the same thing, and there is no limit - I can click as many times as I like within the set time. If there is any way of a) looping the number so that once it gets to 7 it loops back round to 1, and b) to differentiate between right clicking increasing the number and left clicking terminating, it would be great. Thanks again for the help I've already received! Cheers, Neil On Sep 1, 5:40?pm, Michiel Spape wrote: > Like so! > ...i was writing: > Hiya, > I think those pretty much *were* babysteps, provided you've done enough with E-Prime to really work on it. If not, try having a go at the tutorial or the E-Primer (link elsewhere on this list, or on my own homepage around "about me"). It will be worth your while, and doesn't take all that long. > > Anyway, as said: > Add an inline (just drag it), and copy-paste the following TWO lines: > ------ > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > ------ > > That adds, automatically the attribute, even if you don't have a list. You'll ultimately need a list somewhere anywhere, but for now, this works. > Best, > Mich > > Michiel Spap? > Research Fellow > Perception & Action group > University of Nottingham > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:37 > To: E-Prime > Subject: Re: Participant likert scale > > Hi again, sorry about the confusion earlier. > > I've done what you suggested. I'm a little thrown by part of 4. I've > done everything else, but where do i create this attribute? Do i just > put a list after the second inline and create it? > > On Sep 1, 5:15?pm, Michiel Spape > wrote: > > Hi Neil, > > So, if I'm correct, this should be it, let me know if I forgot something. Add the following to some procedure: > > 1. TextDisplay, I'm calling it question. You can insert the question here ("how guilty") etc. > > 2. Inline with code: > > dim myNRESP as integer 'initializes an integer > > myNRESP = -1 'sets it to -1, for reasons that should be clear later > > 3. Label, called PreJump > > 4. Inline with code > > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of responses - the baseline of your code > > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > > 5. TextDisplay, I called it ResponseDisplay. It displays the following text [NRESP] (after the attribute created earlier); a maximum duration of whatever you'd like to be the final duration of your responses hammering (I made it 1000 ms here, default). An input object (I used my keyboard, any button allowed). And most important: end action: jump to label: PreJump. > > > Voila - tested, works. Only thing to do is dump all this in a list and add your likert questions. > > Cheers, > > Mich > > > Michiel Spap? > > Research Fellow > > Perception & Action group > > University of Nottingham > > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:02 > > To: E-Prime > > Subject: Participant likert scale > > > Hi everyone, > > > I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I > > basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are > > feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they > > can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. > > > Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you > > feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. > > They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how > > guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it > > to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 > > times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then > > confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. > > > As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would > > be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a > > keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. > > > Any help welcome! > > > Cheers, > > Neil > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Sep 2 14:21:28 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:21:28 -0400 Subject: Participant likert scale In-Reply-To: <09DAEA8BC192C94EB62C8E71FC35A5D9308F674B47@EXCHANGE3.ad.no ttingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I agree, C and its derivatives are beautiful, BASIC and all its derivatives (e.g., VBA, E-Basic) are clumsy and ugly (apologies to John Kemeny and Thomas Kurtz, originators of BASIC at Dartmouth College in 1964). (And thanks for if-php-were-british, I like the "perchance" statement, etc.) Anyway, I hate to spare anyone the exercise of puzzling this out for themselves, but I fear that Neil may turn this into a bunch of If-Then statements instead of doing it properly with Select Case (also, it allows readers to see the inferiority of the E-Basic expression). So forthwith, my translation into E-Basic: Select Case (ResponseDisplay.RESP) Case "1" myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 If (myNRESP > 7) Then myNRESP = 0 Goto PreJump Case "2" myNRESP = myNRESP - 1 If (myNRESP < 0) Then myNRESP = 0 Goto PreJump Case Else ' Done. End Select Note that the If-Then constructs for the two rollover computations merely implement modular arithmetic. So, for extra credit, do this actually using modular arithmetic (i.e., the Mod operator). As an additional exercise, try using a conditional statement (Iif might work well here) to select the sign of the increment/decrement value so that you can use the same line of code to do either rollover computation. -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder At 9/2/2011 05:11 AM Friday, Michiel Spape wrote: >Hiya, >Yes, well, I suppose you probably already >figured this out, but the idea would be to add >another inline after the last textdisplay, and >don't do the end-action = jump label. With the >bit of code in this inline, you'd 1) check response, 2) reset to 0 as in: >switch (ResponseDisplay.Resp) >{ > case "1": myNRESP+=1; if (myNRESP > 7) > {myNRESP = 0;} goto PreJump; break; > case "2": myNRESP-=1; if (myNRESP < 0) > {myNRESP = 0;} goto PreJump; break; > default: break; >} > >You can see the above is a little mix of c# and >e-basic. This is because A) c# is beautiful, B) >I tend to forget the specifics of basic syntax >(certainly regarding the switch statement), C) >the proper way is somewhere in the e-basic help, and it pays to learn a bit. > >PS: David, and my fellow geeks, perhaps you'll >enjoy this as much as I did: >http://www.addedbytes.com/blog/if-php-were-british/ > > >Cheers, >Mich > >Michiel Spap? >Research Fellow >Perception & Action group >University of Nottingham >School of Psychology >www.cognitology.eu > > >-----Original Message----- >From: e-prime at googlegroups.com >[mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie >Sent: 01 September 2011 18:21 >To: E-Prime >Subject: Re: Participant likert scale > >Thank you kindly for your help! > >At the moment I am using the mouse to increase the number. However, >both buttons are doing the same thing, and there is no limit - I can >click as many times as I like within the set time. > >If there is any way of a) looping the number so that once it gets to 7 >it loops back round to 1, and b) to differentiate between right >clicking increasing the number and left clicking terminating, it would >be great. > >Thanks again for the help I've already received! > >Cheers, >Neil > >On Sep 1, 5:40 pm, Michiel Spape >wrote: > > Like so! > > ...i was writing: > > Hiya, > > I think those pretty much *were* babysteps, > provided you've done enough with E-Prime to > really work on it. If not, try having a go at > the tutorial or the E-Primer (link elsewhere on > this list, or on my own homepage around "about > me"). It will be worth your while, and doesn't take all that long. > > > > Anyway, as said: > > Add an inline (just drag it), and copy-paste the following TWO lines: > > ------ > > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of > responses - the baseline of your code > > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > > ------ > > > > That adds, automatically the attribute, even > if you don't have a list. You'll ultimately > need a list somewhere anywhere, but for now, this works. > > Best, > > Mich > > > > Michiel Spap? > > Research Fellow > > Perception & Action group > > University of Nottingham > > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com > [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:37 > > To: E-Prime > > Subject: Re: Participant likert scale > > > > Hi again, sorry about the confusion earlier. > > > > I've done what you suggested. I'm a little thrown by part of 4. I've > > done everything else, but where do i create this attribute? Do i just > > put a list after the second inline and create it? > > > > On Sep 1, 5:15 pm, Michiel Spape > > wrote: > > > Hi Neil, > > > So, if I'm correct, this should be it, let > me know if I forgot something. Add the following to some procedure: > > > 1. TextDisplay, I'm calling it question. > You can insert the question here ("how guilty") etc. > > > 2. Inline with code: > > > dim myNRESP as integer 'initializes an integer > > > myNRESP = -1 'sets it to -1, for reasons that should be clear later > > > 3. Label, called PreJump > > > 4. Inline with code > > > myNRESP = myNRESP + 1 'adds 1 to number of > responses - the baseline of your code > > > c.SetAttrib "NRESP", myNRESP 'saves the number of responses > > > 5. TextDisplay, I called it > ResponseDisplay. It displays the following text > [NRESP] (after the attribute created earlier); > a maximum duration of whatever you'd like to be > the final duration of your responses hammering > (I made it 1000 ms here, default). An input > object (I used my keyboard, any button > allowed). And most important: end action: jump to label: PreJump. > > > > > Voila - tested, works. Only thing to do is > dump all this in a list and add your likert questions. > > > Cheers, > > > Mich > > > > > Michiel Spap? > > > Research Fellow > > > Perception & Action group > > > University of Nottingham > > > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com > [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil McLatchie > > > Sent: 01 September 2011 17:02 > > > To: E-Prime > > > Subject: Participant likert scale > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > I'm quite new to this and am about to do my first fMRI study. I > > > basically need to ask participants to provide feedback of how they are > > > feeling whilst in the scanner. However, due to being in an fMRi, they > > > can't talk or move, except they have a button in each hand. > > > > > Ideally I would like to be able to ask them e.g. 'how guilty do you > > > feel right now' and have a '0' appear in the middle of the screen. > > > They then click the right button from 1-7 times to let me know how > > > guilty they are feeling at that instance. If possible, I would like it > > > to somehow loop, so that if they by accident push the right button 8 > > > times, it just loops back to 0. It would be good if they could then > > > confirm (terminate the slide) with the left button. > > > > > As I'm not working the with fmri for another couple of weeks, it would > > > be good if I could have a practice with this using two buttons on a > > > keyboard, but I've no idea where to begin. > > > > > Any help welcome! > > > > > Cheers, > > > Neil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From psychophysics.lab at gmail.com Mon Sep 5 23:11:26 2011 From: psychophysics.lab at gmail.com (Jordan Schoenherr) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:11:26 -0700 Subject: ImageDisplay Internal Error Message-ID: Good Evening, I've encountered an error that seems - on the face of it - to be quite prevalent. When I run a program I receive the following message: "Run-time Error (Line 3225) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has occurred Marker: 2002" In this experiment, a sequence of background images are shown and then a target is presented. These files are in bmp format. The error message occurs after - what would seem to be - just before the target image is presented (the number of pre-target pictures is randomized). The size of the image files are generally 900kb but some are 1200kb (not sure if this is relevant) and the number of failures seems to have to do with the number of images over 900kb. The odd thing is this: after newer variants of the experiment started producing these errors, I went back to earlier versions where I'd never encountered this error message and now they produce it. Moreover, this problem has been observed now on multiple systems running different versions of Windows. I've tried clearing the image buffer after each picture is presented and that doesn't appear to work. And, as I mentioned above, even going back to earlier version doesn't appear to resolve the issue. Given that it only occurs on some trials and appears to be related to it doesn't seem to be an issue with the script per se. Although I will try to re-save the images as jpg to see if that resolve the issue, I wanted to see whether anyone has encountered a similar problem. Cheers, J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From l.bugayong at gmail.com Tue Sep 6 09:36:31 2011 From: l.bugayong at gmail.com (Suli) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 02:36:31 -0700 Subject: Flashing random images consecutively on one slide Message-ID: Hello Group, I need help trying to set up a "distractor" slide that flashes 4-5 images at random for 1 second, each image for about ca. 200-250 ms respectively. So far, I tried setting up 4 consecutive slides with an image object, each of which drawing the images randomly from a nested list, but it seems that each of those slides always draw on the same image, so it doesn't appear to be changing at all. (Or at least that's my interpretation why I keep seeing only one image.) Do any of you have any ideas? Suli -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From liwenna at gmail.com Tue Sep 6 10:08:16 2011 From: liwenna at gmail.com (liwenna) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 03:08:16 -0700 Subject: ImageDisplay Internal Error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Jordan, Just to make sure (and because I generally like to state obivous things...): you checked whether all the images are actually present? This error most often occurs from files not being present and/or filename-typoes. A less obvious reason could be the 'macification' thing... don't know how/what/why but bmp's created/modified on a mac can also give this error. In that case simply opening and saving again with a windows program (gimp, photoshop, might be paint even works) should solve your problem. best, liw On Sep 6, 1:11?am, Jordan Schoenherr wrote: > Good Evening, > > I've encountered an error that seems - on the face of it - to be quite > prevalent. When I run a program I receive the following message: > > "Run-time Error (Line 3225) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has > occurred > Marker: 2002" > > In this experiment, a sequence of background images are shown and then > a target is presented. These files are in bmp format. The error > message occurs after - what would seem to be - just before the target > image is presented (the number of pre-target pictures is randomized). > The size of the image files are generally 900kb but some are 1200kb > (not sure if this is relevant) and the number of failures seems to > have to do with the number of images over 900kb. The odd thing is > this: after newer variants of the experiment started producing these > errors, I went back to earlier versions where I'd never encountered > this error message and now they produce it. Moreover, this problem has > been observed now on multiple systems running different versions of > Windows. > > I've tried clearing the image buffer after each picture is presented > and that doesn't appear to work. And, as I mentioned above, even going > back to earlier version doesn't appear to resolve the issue. Given > that it only occurs on some trials and appears to be related to ?it > doesn't seem to be an issue with the script per se. Although I will > try to re-save the images as jpg to see if that resolve the issue, I > wanted to see whether anyone has encountered a similar problem. > > Cheers, > > J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Sep 6 10:35:14 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:35:14 +0100 Subject: Flashing random images consecutively on one slide In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Suli, Once again! Further on, if you like to use a nested list (with an attribute, say, myImages, filled with all the possible images), one way forward is to use the colon to select a specific row from your nested list. 1. Make sure your nested list contains all the images, and is set to randomise with every trial 2. Have a trialList (with reference to nested list) with 5 attributes: Image1, Image2...Image5. Each level refers to myImages:1, myImages:2.. myImages:5. 3. In the trialProc, have 5 slides, have 5 images on them (one each, obviously), let each refer to [Image1], [Image2]..[Image5]. So, e-prime randomises the order of your nested list. Your trial shows 5 images. Image1 will refer to myImages:1 - the first 'row' in myImages. Since your nested list is resorted every trial, however, the first row is always different. This trick is explained elsewhere on this list under rapid serial visual presentation or the attentional blink. Best, Mich Michiel Spap? Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Suli Sent: 06 September 2011 10:37 To: E-Prime Subject: Flashing random images consecutively on one slide Hello Group, I need help trying to set up a "distractor" slide that flashes 4-5 images at random for 1 second, each image for about ca. 200-250 ms respectively. So far, I tried setting up 4 consecutive slides with an image object, each of which drawing the images randomly from a nested list, but it seems that each of those slides always draw on the same image, so it doesn't appear to be changing at all. (Or at least that's my interpretation why I keep seeing only one image.) Do any of you have any ideas? Suli -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Tue Sep 6 14:56:54 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:56:54 -0400 Subject: ImageDisplay Internal Error In-Reply-To: <206a441c-5ffd-4060-86f4-1a7d46546115@u19g2000vbm.googlegro ups.com> Message-ID: What liw said, plus this error message is documented in E-Prime Knowledge Base #3000: http://www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=3000 . -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder At 9/6/2011 06:08 AM Tuesday, you wrote: >Hi Jordan, > >Just to make sure (and because I generally like to state obivous >things...): you checked whether all the images are actually present? >This error most often occurs from files not being present and/or >filename-typoes. > >A less obvious reason could be the 'macification' thing... don't know >how/what/why but bmp's created/modified on a mac can also give this >error. In that case simply opening and saving again with a windows >program (gimp, photoshop, might be paint even works) should solve your >problem. > >best, > >liw > >On Sep 6, 1:11 am, Jordan Schoenherr >wrote: > > Good Evening, > > > > I've encountered an error that seems - on the face of it - to be quite > > prevalent. When I run a program I receive the following message: > > > > "Run-time Error (Line 3225) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has > > occurred > > Marker: 2002" > > > > In this experiment, a sequence of background images are shown and then > > a target is presented. These files are in bmp format. The error > > message occurs after - what would seem to be - just before the target > > image is presented (the number of pre-target pictures is randomized). > > The size of the image files are generally 900kb but some are 1200kb > > (not sure if this is relevant) and the number of failures seems to > > have to do with the number of images over 900kb. The odd thing is > > this: after newer variants of the experiment started producing these > > errors, I went back to earlier versions where I'd never encountered > > this error message and now they produce it. Moreover, this problem has > > been observed now on multiple systems running different versions of > > Windows. > > > > I've tried clearing the image buffer after each picture is presented > > and that doesn't appear to work. And, as I mentioned above, even going > > back to earlier version doesn't appear to resolve the issue. Given > > that it only occurs on some trials and appears to be related to it > > doesn't seem to be an issue with the script per se. Although I will > > try to re-save the images as jpg to see if that resolve the issue, I > > wanted to see whether anyone has encountered a similar problem. > > > > Cheers, > > > > J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From cjp872 at gmail.com Mon Sep 12 17:33:22 2011 From: cjp872 at gmail.com (cjp87) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:33:22 -0700 Subject: Compiling Error (unexpected ')' appears in code). Message-ID: Hello, Sorry if this is an oft-encountered problem, due to the lack of an error number, and the amount of symbols in the error popup, googling for the problem itself didn't go over so well. I'm not particularly e-prime/e-basic savvy, so all I'm doing has been through the GUI (no inline code), and so I'm confused how a code error occurred, and I'm also optimistic that the solution is rather simple. This is the error box I receive when trying to compile the script: "Error found during Compile The following error was found while attempting to compile the E-Basic Script: Encountered: ')' Expecting: end of line Line: 477 Column: 23" Now, I found the line they're talking about, and there does seem to be a close parenthesis there, but I don't know why an error like that would occur when all I did was use the drag/drop tools and select a file path. Specifically, the error occurs within a List that has a procedure setup to call 6 images randomly from a folder containing 12 images. Here are some screenshots of the offending code, as well as the way I set up the experiment where the error seems to occur: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/cjp87/error1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/cjp87/error2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/cjp87/error3.jpg My intention is to have this experiment up and running no later than tomorrow, so any help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance, Colton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From cjp872 at gmail.com Mon Sep 12 17:40:21 2011 From: cjp872 at gmail.com (cjp87) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:40:21 -0700 Subject: Compiling Error (unexpected ')' appears in code). In-Reply-To: <1de7f8eb-e5dc-489e-9173-6026b2f5736b@c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Photobucket links don't seem to be working for me. Maybe these will. http://i.imgur.com/PKnXr.jpg http://i.imgur.com/K4e16.jpg http://i.imgur.com/YdIlx.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Mon Sep 12 18:45:38 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:45:38 -0400 Subject: Compiling Error (unexpected ')' appears in code). In-Reply-To: <1de7f8eb-e5dc-489e-9173-6026b2f5736b@c29g2000yqd.googlegro ups.com> Message-ID: Colton, "... all I did was use the drag/drop tools and select a file path." Ah, the old file path separator problem. No way you would have figured that out from the error message, nor by any amount of Googling. You can find the issue discussed at the following threads: http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic2336-12-1.aspx , http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic1689-12-1.aspx , http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic1718-5-1.aspx http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime/browse_thread/thread/d2760287fabeb88a -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder At 9/12/2011 01:33 PM Monday, you wrote: >Hello, > >Sorry if this is an oft-encountered problem, due to the lack of an >error number, and the amount of symbols in the error popup, googling >for the problem itself didn't go over so well. > >I'm not particularly e-prime/e-basic savvy, so all I'm doing has been >through the GUI (no inline code), and so I'm confused how a code error >occurred, and I'm also optimistic that the solution is rather simple. > >This is the error box I receive when trying to compile the script: > >"Error found during Compile > >The following error was found while attempting to compile the E-Basic >Script: > >Encountered: ')' >Expecting: end of line > >Line: 477 >Column: 23" > >Now, I found the line they're talking about, and there does seem to be >a close parenthesis there, but I don't know why an error like that >would occur when all I did was use the drag/drop tools and select a >file path. > >Specifically, the error occurs within a List that has a procedure >setup to call 6 images randomly from a folder containing 12 images. >Here are some screenshots of the offending code, as well as the way I >set up the experiment where the error seems to occur: > >http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/cjp87/error1.jpg >http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/cjp87/error2.jpg >http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/cjp87/error3.jpg > >My intention is to have this experiment up and running no later than >tomorrow, so any help is much appreciated. > >Thanks in advance, > >Colton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From meltemballan at gmail.com Thu Sep 15 19:57:18 2011 From: meltemballan at gmail.com (M B) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:57:18 -0700 Subject: blink between two slides Message-ID: Hello All, I have a task that I measure visual acuity. When I used black background for fixation and the stimulus I did not experience the blink between the stimulus and fixation representations. However, I need to use white background for my new experiment and I experience a blink between these two slides ( a momentary gray blink). I was wondering whether any of you had a similar issue and know the way to prevent this issue. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Thu Sep 15 21:17:54 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:17:54 -0400 Subject: blink between two slides In-Reply-To: <20cfcccc-f5f6-4f84-97ff-45b75fc27f4a@u19g2000vbm.googlegro ups.com> Message-ID: Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff takes any and all questions at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , and they strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of it. 3) If you do get an answer from PST Web Support, please extend the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. That said, here is my take... I have used E-Prime 1 & 2 with white backgrounds for over a decade and never saw the blink that you describe. I wonder if this has something to do with specific settings in your stimuli? E.g., do you have Clear After set to Yes (I generally discourage this)? Instead of modifying an existing program from black backgrounds to white ones, what if you make a simple test program from scratch using nothing but white backgrounds? -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder At 9/15/2011 03:57 PM Thursday, you wrote: >Hello All, >I have a task that I measure visual acuity. When I used black >background for fixation and the stimulus I did not experience the >blink between the stimulus and fixation representations. However, I >need to use white background for my new experiment and I experience a >blink between these two slides ( a momentary gray blink). I was >wondering whether any of you had a similar issue and know the way to >prevent this issue. >Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From david.vogelsang at gmail.com Mon Sep 19 17:22:56 2011 From: david.vogelsang at gmail.com (Dr Hackenbush) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:22:56 -0700 Subject: How to fade from slide1 to slide2 (inline?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear All, I am experiencing the same problems as Erika Nyhus. Is there anyone who has found a solution yet? In my current experiment, I want to include a confidence rating so that I know how confident participants are in their answers. And I would like to measure this by the length of time they press the response button, just like in Erika's experiment. I want to use a moving bar which indicates the length of the button response. Does anyone know how this can be programmed in e- prime? Best regards, Dirk On Aug 9, 7:42?pm, Erika Nyhus wrote: > Attached is a mini-experiment implementing this code. > Erika > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:40 PM, enyhus wrote: > > Thank you for all your help so far. ?I have tried integrating my color > > changing code with the code you have provided, but the color does not > > change nor are the key press and release being recorded. ?I was > > wondering if you had any more advice on getting this to work. > > > First I put an InLine (SetTrialStartTime) at the very beginning of the > > trial like this. This sets up the initial color and gets the > > experiment time from the start of the > > trial: > > > '-------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > 'create all the variables you'll need: > > dim r as integer > > dim g as integer > > dim b as integer > > dim vr as string > > dim vb as string > > dim vg as string > > dim stepcounter as integer > > dim Slide1Time as integer > > dim ResponseTime as integer > > > 'assign value 255 to the red green and blue channels, rgb 255,255,255 > > is white > > r=0 > > b=255 > > g=255 > > > 'map the integer values of r, g, and b onto the string variables vr, > > vb and vg > > vr$= r > > vb$= b > > vg$= g > > > 'use the string rgb variables to modify the backgroundcolor of the > > textobject > > > CSlideText(Slide1.States(Slide1.ActiveState).Objects("Text1")).forecolor=CC olor > > (""& vr$ &","& vg$ &","& vb$ &"") > > > Dim lngTrialStart As Long > > lngTrialStart = Clock.Read > > > '-------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > > Then I added a label "Repeat" after the stimulus slide and before the > > next > > InLine, and another label "SkipInLine" after the next inline: > > > Then the following InLine (WaitForKeypresses): > > > '-------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > If Clock.Read - lngTrialStart >= 2500 Then GoTo SkipInLine > > > Dim nResps As Long > > > nResps = Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses.Count > > > 'waits for the initial keypress > > If nResps > 0 Then > > > ? 'loops until either a response is made or the trial time runs out: > > ? nResps = Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses.Count > > ? Do Until Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses(nResps).RESP = "{1}" > > ? ? ?If Clock.Read - lngTrialStart >= 2500 Then GoTo SkipInLine > > ? ? ?Sleep 1 > > ? Loop > > > ? 'logs the keypress time: > > ? c.SetAttrib "Keypress", Clock.Read > > > ? 'loops the color changing code until either the release or the > > trial time runs out > > ? ? ?Do Until Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses(nResps).RESP = "{-1}" > > ? ? ? ? ?If Clock.Read - lngTrialStart >= 2500 Then GoTo SkipInLine > > ? ? ?'insert color changing code here > > ? ? ? ? ?'First the values of green and blue will be decreased by 5 points, > > we started at 255,255,255 and this way after 50 repeats we will end at > > 255,0,0, which is pure red > > r = r > > g = g - 5 > > b = b - 5 > > > 'Map the integer values of rgb onto the string variables of rgb > > vr$= r > > vb$= b > > vg$= g > > > 'Assign the new value to forecolor > > > CSlideText(Slide1.States(Slide1.ActiveState).Objects("Text1")).forecolor=CC olor > > (""& vr$ &","& vg$ &","& vb$ &"") > > Slide1.draw > > ? Loop > > Else > > ? Sleep 1 > > ? GoTo Repeat > > End If > > > 'logs the key release time: > > c.SetAttrib "Keyrelease", Clock.Read > > > '-------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > > Then after the label "SkipInLine" I added a simple InLine > > (WaitForTrialEnd) that waits untilt 2500 ms has passed from the start > > of the trial until the trial end: > > > '-------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > Do Until Clock.Read - lngTrialStart >= 2500 > > ? Sleep 1 > > Loop > > > '-------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > > Erika > > > On Jul 28, 2:17 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > > > Erika, > > > > At 7/28/2011 01:55 PM Thursday, you wrote: > > > > >I have changed all the code to use > > > >Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses.Count, but I am getting the following > > > >error when I run it. > > > > >Operator type mismatch > > > >For line: Do Until Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses(nResps) = "{SPACE}" > > > > Um, Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses gets you to the > > > ResponseDataCollection object associated with Slide1.InputMasks(1), > > > and Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses(nResps) only gets you to a > > > particular ResponseData object, not any of its component > > > properties. ?You have to drill down a little further to specific > > > ResponseData properties, e.g., > > > > ? ? ? ? ?Do Until Slide1.InputMasks(1).Responses(nResps).RESP = "{SPACE}" > > > > Please, please read through all the relevant topics in the E-Basic > > > Help facility. ?This would also all become clear if you would take a > > > course on VBA, or give yourself some training using a book like "VBA > > > for Dummies". ?It is a huge mistake to try to get an intricate > > > program to work without understanding *how* it works -- even if it > > > *appears* to work to you, chances are it does not really do what you > > > think it does, and you will unwittingly publish invalid results. > > > > -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "E-Prime" group. > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > -- > Erika Nyhus, Ph.D. > Cognitive, Linguistic, and Psychological Sciences > Brown University > 229 Waterman St. > Providence, RI 02912-1821 > > ?TestImage.es2 > 34KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Mon Sep 19 18:34:11 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:34:11 -0400 Subject: How to fade from slide1 to slide2 (inline?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dirk, Can you indicate more precisely where you get stuck? E.g., do you need help knowing how to detect a button press & subsequent release (see the Key Release example on the PST Support web site), or help with drawing a bar that increases in length, etc.? -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder At 9/19/2011 01:22 PM Monday, you wrote: >Dear All, > >I am experiencing the same problems as Erika Nyhus. Is there anyone >who has found a solution yet? In my current experiment, I want to >include a confidence rating so that I know how confident participants >are in their answers. And I would like to measure this by the length >of time they press the response button, just like in Erika's >experiment. I want to use a moving bar which indicates the length of >the button response. Does anyone know how this can be programmed in e- >prime? > >Best regards, > >Dirk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From david.vogelsang at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 09:57:34 2011 From: david.vogelsang at gmail.com (Dr Hackenbush) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 02:57:34 -0700 Subject: How to fade from slide1 to slide2 (inline?) In-Reply-To: <4e778b40.41942a0a.6674.6647SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: Dear David McFarlane, Thank you for your reply. At this stage, we are still trying to get Erika?s code working. We were wondering if she already found a solution. We will try to get our program working first, and if we encounter very specific problems, then we will post our question on this google groups website. Best regards, Dirk On Sep 19, 7:34?pm, David McFarlane wrote: > Dirk, > > Can you indicate more precisely where you get stuck? ?E.g., do you > need help knowing how to detect a button press & subsequent release > (see the Key Release example on the PST Support web site), or help > with drawing a bar that increases in length, etc.? > > -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder > > At 9/19/2011 01:22 PM Monday, you wrote: > > > > >Dear All, > > >I am experiencing the same problems as Erika Nyhus. Is there anyone > >who has found a solution yet? ?In my current experiment, I want to > >include a confidence rating so that I know how confident participants > >are in their answers. And I would like to measure this by the length > >of time they press the response button, just like in Erika's > >experiment. I want to use a moving bar which indicates the length of > >the button response. Does anyone know how this can be programmed in e- > >prime? > > >Best regards, > > >Dirk- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From erinjoneshiggins at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 15:04:33 2011 From: erinjoneshiggins at gmail.com (Erin) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:04:33 -0700 Subject: issue with multiple levels of nested lists Message-ID: I am having some trouble figuring out the best way to do the following: I have an experiment that is using 3 levels of lists. At the highest level, the list calls on a middle level list in order to fill 2 different stimulus presentations (e.g. [stim:0] and [stim:1] ). At the middle level, there are 9 types of items which can fill the "stim" slot, each corresponding to a different nested list (which has the actual items to be used). When I run the experiment, the program will choose two items at the middle level, but it gets stuck in the first item's nested list (so I get an error when it tries to pull the second stimulus saying that it is out of context). Any ideas how to get E- prime to pull both nested lists at the same time? Also I know that if I put all of the lowest level lists into the nested column for the highest level list, it will work. The issue with that though is that it will then over-sample the lowest level lists, causing me to lose control of the number of presentations of each specific item. Hopefully this is clear enough - let me know if you need more details. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From pfc.groot at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 22:29:27 2011 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:29:27 +0200 Subject: How to fade from slide1 to slide2 (inline?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Dirk, You might have a look at the Visual Analogue Scale example script I made some time ago: http://www.pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/83-example-scripts/80-visual-analogue-scale-example-for-e-prime.html I think this code contains most ingredients you need to create such a response rating. It was designed to work with a mouse, but for fMRI experiments I also required keyboard control. If you use the simple version (without confirmation option) and tweak it a bit, it might be useful. Perhaps also it needs some improvement regarding the speed of the moving cursor though.... Kind regards, Paul 2011/9/20 Dr Hackenbush : > Dear David McFarlane, > Thank you for your reply. At this stage, we are still trying to get > Erika?s code working. We were wondering if she already found a > solution. We will try to get our program working first, and if we > encounter very specific problems, then we will post our question on > this google groups website. > Best regards, > > Dirk > > > On Sep 19, 7:34?pm, David McFarlane wrote: >> Dirk, >> >> Can you indicate more precisely where you get stuck? ?E.g., do you >> need help knowing how to detect a button press & subsequent release >> (see the Key Release example on the PST Support web site), or help >> with drawing a bar that increases in length, etc.? >> >> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder >> >> At 9/19/2011 01:22 PM Monday, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >Dear All, >> >> >I am experiencing the same problems as Erika Nyhus. Is there anyone >> >who has found a solution yet? ?In my current experiment, I want to >> >include a confidence rating so that I know how confident participants >> >are in their answers. And I would like to measure this by the length >> >of time they press the response button, just like in Erika's >> >experiment. I want to use a moving bar which indicates the length of >> >the button response. Does anyone know how this can be programmed in e- >> >prime? >> >> >Best regards, >> >> >Dirk- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From liwenna at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 10:32:45 2011 From: liwenna at gmail.com (liwenna) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 03:32:45 -0700 Subject: issue with multiple levels of nested lists In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Erin, Not entirely sure if I understood your description correctly but could it be that you try to pull two levels from the same list (at the third/ lowest) level on each trial i.e. fill the first level of the middle list with the items in the first and the second level of the thirdlevel list? If so: that will not work. On each trial only one level of each list can be used. Assuming that you need two stims of the same type at each trial: Is it an option for you to divide each set of stims for each 'type' into two halve sets? In that case you could put each stim from one halve set into it's own level at the middle level (or top level even) and nest into that level a list with the other halve set of the same stimtype. In this set-up two items that are in one list (the 'master' or the nested list) will never be paired, but random combinations would be generated between the two halve sets of each stimtype. Alternatively (in order to achieve fully randomized combinations within each type of stimuli) I personally would use a set-up that uses a bunch of code to first randomize the stimuli and then write combinations of items into the list. I'd expand on that but rather first know if that would help you out. Best, liw On Sep 20, 11:04?am, Erin wrote: > I am having some trouble figuring out the best way to do the > following: > > I have an experiment that is using 3 levels of lists. At the highest > level, the list calls on a middle level list in order to fill 2 > different stimulus presentations (e.g. [stim:0] and [stim:1] ). At the > middle level, there are 9 types of items which can fill the "stim" > slot, each corresponding to a different nested list (which has the > actual items to be used). When I run the experiment, the program will > choose two items at the middle level, but it gets stuck in the first > item's nested list (so I get an error when it tries to pull the second > stimulus saying that it is out of context). Any ideas how to get E- > prime to pull both nested lists at the same time? ?Also I know that if > I put all of the lowest level lists into the nested column for the > highest level list, it will work. The issue with that though is that > it will then over-sample the lowest level lists, causing me to lose > control of the number of presentations of each specific item. > Hopefully this is clear enough - let me know if you need more details. > Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From liwenna at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 10:52:21 2011 From: liwenna at gmail.com (Anne-Wil Kruijt) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:52:21 +0200 Subject: issue with multiple levels of nested lists Message-ID: Hi Erin, I removed my initial post, for what I wrote there turned out to be not true when I tried to rebuild the setup described in your post. See attached file for a very simplified reproduction of what I understood your set-up is. It works just fine so it's probably not exactly the same as you have. Hope it helps you. Best, liw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So maybe there is a bug in the TET program (the sample of e-prime does not work either) just as was the case with earlier versions of the package for e-prime 1 (Clearvier and TET would not work in te same experiment, to be sorted by disabling the sentence Const DEVICE_CLOSED = 0 in one of the packages). Anyway, I have been at it for 2 days now and it is getting on my nerves. Thanks! Jan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From meltemballan at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 19:32:56 2011 From: meltemballan at gmail.com (Meltem BALLAN) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:32:56 -0400 Subject: eye tracking & e-prime2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Jan, I needed to play movie in E-Prime and my movie was 9:40 min long. I could not succeed when I contacted to E-Prime they suggested me to use short movies at most 1 min long. It did not solve my issue but it might help you. Meltem On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:28 PM, jkuipers wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering whether any of you has had trouble with getting the > TET server working (e-prime extentions for Tobii) with e-prime 2. I > have, for a while, a nice setup working in e-prime1 but I need to > display movies now. I noticed Michiel suggested in another discussion > to use frames in e-prime 1 instead of movies, but I do not want to > resort to that just yet. > Now, Clearview is working in e-prime2, also I can open/connect TET but > when any other comminication is required (TrackStatus, StartTracking) > it crashes (no message why). So maybe there is a bug in the TET > program (the sample of e-prime does not work either) just as was the > case with earlier versions of the package for e-prime 1 (Clearvier and > TET would not work in te same experiment, to be sorted by disabling > the sentence Const DEVICE_CLOSED = 0 in one of the packages). > Anyway, I have been at it for 2 days now and it is getting on my > nerves. > > Thanks! > > Jan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > -- Meltem Ballan, PhD Department of Psychiatry, CB# 7160 University of North Carolina School of Medicine 7023 Neurosciences Hospital Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7160 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.kuipers at bangor.ac.uk Wed Sep 21 20:05:01 2011 From: j.kuipers at bangor.ac.uk (jkuipers) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:05:01 -0700 Subject: eye tracking & e-prime2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Meltem! I use clips of 1s only so that should not be the problem then. Cheers, Jan On Sep 21, 8:32?pm, Meltem BALLAN wrote: > Hi Jan, > I needed to play movie in E-Prime and my movie was 9:40 min long. I could > not succeed when I contacted to E-Prime they suggested me to use short > movies at most 1 min long. It did not solve my issue but it might help you. > Meltem > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:28 PM, jkuipers wrote: > > Hi all, > > > I was wondering whether any of you has had trouble with getting the > > TET server working (e-prime extentions for Tobii) with e-prime 2. I > > have, for a while, a nice setup working in e-prime1 but I need to > > display movies now. I noticed Michiel suggested in another discussion > > to use frames in e-prime 1 instead of movies, but I do not want to > > resort to that just yet. > > Now, Clearview is working in e-prime2, also I can open/connect TET but > > when any other comminication is required (TrackStatus, StartTracking) > > it crashes (no message why). So maybe there is a bug in the TET > > program (the sample of e-prime does not work either) just as was the > > case with earlier versions of the package for e-prime 1 (Clearvier and > > TET would not work in te same experiment, to be sorted by disabling > > the sentence Const DEVICE_CLOSED = 0 in one of the packages). > > Anyway, I have been at it for 2 days now and it is getting on my > > nerves. > > > Thanks! > > > Jan > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "E-Prime" group. > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > -- > Meltem Ballan, PhD > Department of Psychiatry, CB# 7160 > University of North Carolina School of Medicine > 7023 Neurosciences Hospital > Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7160- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From meltemballan at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 20:10:52 2011 From: meltemballan at gmail.com (Meltem BALLAN) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:10:52 -0400 Subject: eye tracking & e-prime2 In-Reply-To: <8fc23208-fea3-44ca-aba7-85205ca8fde0@hg2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Jan, I found it easier when I inserted my movie in the slide. Good luck. Meltem On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:05 PM, jkuipers wrote: > Thanks Meltem! I use clips of 1s only so that should not be the > problem then. > > Cheers, > Jan > > On Sep 21, 8:32 pm, Meltem BALLAN wrote: > > Hi Jan, > > I needed to play movie in E-Prime and my movie was 9:40 min long. I could > > not succeed when I contacted to E-Prime they suggested me to use short > > movies at most 1 min long. It did not solve my issue but it might help > you. > > Meltem > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:28 PM, jkuipers > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > I was wondering whether any of you has had trouble with getting the > > > TET server working (e-prime extentions for Tobii) with e-prime 2. I > > > have, for a while, a nice setup working in e-prime1 but I need to > > > display movies now. I noticed Michiel suggested in another discussion > > > to use frames in e-prime 1 instead of movies, but I do not want to > > > resort to that just yet. > > > Now, Clearview is working in e-prime2, also I can open/connect TET but > > > when any other comminication is required (TrackStatus, StartTracking) > > > it crashes (no message why). So maybe there is a bug in the TET > > > program (the sample of e-prime does not work either) just as was the > > > case with earlier versions of the package for e-prime 1 (Clearvier and > > > TET would not work in te same experiment, to be sorted by disabling > > > the sentence Const DEVICE_CLOSED = 0 in one of the packages). > > > Anyway, I have been at it for 2 days now and it is getting on my > > > nerves. > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Jan > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "E-Prime" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > > > -- > > Meltem Ballan, PhD > > Department of Psychiatry, CB# 7160 > > University of North Carolina School of Medicine > > 7023 Neurosciences Hospital > > Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7160- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > -- Meltem Ballan, PhD Department of Psychiatry, CB# 7160 University of North Carolina School of Medicine 7023 Neurosciences Hospital Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7160 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From meltemballan at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 20:08:56 2011 From: meltemballan at gmail.com (Meltem BALLAN) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:08:56 -0400 Subject: blink between two slides In-Reply-To: <4e726ba3.4a962a0a.083a.ffffada0SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi David, I have contacted to E-Prime. They suggested me to change the order of slides and put the scripts in the beginning of each trial and suggested that it might be the image I used. I tried every option. But I still have the blink issue. I developed the task from the scratch it did not go away. The last thing strikes me as a problem is Netstation extensionbut I am not pretty sure by now. Thank you again. Meltem On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:17 PM, David McFarlane wrote: > Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff takes > any and all questions at http://support.pstnet.com/e%** > 2Dprime/support/login.asp, and they strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is > pretty much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of > it. 3) If you do get an answer from PST Web Support, please extend the > courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. > > That said, here is my take... > > I have used E-Prime 1 & 2 with white backgrounds for over a decade and > never saw the blink that you describe. I wonder if this has something to do > with specific settings in your stimuli? E.g., do you have Clear After set > to Yes (I generally discourage this)? Instead of modifying an existing > program from black backgrounds to white ones, what if you make a simple test > program from scratch using nothing but white backgrounds? > > -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder > > > > At 9/15/2011 03:57 PM Thursday, you wrote: > >> Hello All, >> I have a task that I measure visual acuity. When I used black >> background for fixation and the stimulus I did not experience the >> blink between the stimulus and fixation representations. However, I >> need to use white background for my new experiment and I experience a >> blink between these two slides ( a momentary gray blink). I was >> wondering whether any of you had a similar issue and know the way to >> prevent this issue. >> Thanks. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe@** > googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/e-prime?hl=en . > > -- Meltem Ballan, PhD Department of Psychiatry, CB# 7160 University of North Carolina School of Medicine 7023 Neurosciences Hospital Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7160 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Sep 22 09:03:41 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:03:41 +0100 Subject: eye tracking & e-prime2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Jan (is that Jan-Rouke? How are you?), If a) your experiment works in E-Prime 1 (with e-prime extensions for Tobii), then, when importing the whole thing to E-Prime 2, it doesn't anymore, I'd also suspect there's something wrong with the E-Prime 2-TET-package integration, probably best sorted by contacting the Tobii people. Certainly, b) if it crashes even with just StartTracking (which is required anyway), there's no reason to think that video as such is the problem. So, it's a long shot, but have you tried updating your TET packages? And yes, as for my earlier suggestion, there's software out there (virtualdub, http://www.virtualdub.org/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=34) to make your life easier. That is, exporting .avi at 25 Hz (or whatever framerate they are) writing out [originalname number], then making a loop over "number" with images showing every 40 ms, is pretty easy to accomplish, I should think (especially if you won't care about the occasional tearing). Best, Mich Michiel Spap? Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jkuipers Sent: 21 September 2011 20:28 To: E-Prime Subject: eye tracking & e-prime2 Hi all, I was wondering whether any of you has had trouble with getting the TET server working (e-prime extentions for Tobii) with e-prime 2. I have, for a while, a nice setup working in e-prime1 but I need to display movies now. I noticed Michiel suggested in another discussion to use frames in e-prime 1 instead of movies, but I do not want to resort to that just yet. Now, Clearview is working in e-prime2, also I can open/connect TET but when any other comminication is required (TrackStatus, StartTracking) it crashes (no message why). So maybe there is a bug in the TET program (the sample of e-prime does not work either) just as was the case with earlier versions of the package for e-prime 1 (Clearvier and TET would not work in te same experiment, to be sorted by disabling the sentence Const DEVICE_CLOSED = 0 in one of the packages). Anyway, I have been at it for 2 days now and it is getting on my nerves. Thanks! Jan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From j.kuipers at bangor.ac.uk Thu Sep 22 13:34:11 2011 From: j.kuipers at bangor.ac.uk (jkuipers) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 06:34:11 -0700 Subject: eye tracking & e-prime2 In-Reply-To: <09DAEA8BC192C94EB62C8E71FC35A5D9308F77C153@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hoi Michiel, alles goed! En jij? (That is Dutch) Thanks for your reply. I have made a new exp, not copied a working one over, but even a sample of eprime does not work. I have contacted the helpdesk, so maybe they have an idea. I have the latest version I think, but I am not always happy to install newer versions because E-prime seems to encrypt the program more each time which makes manipulating and viewing the script more difficult e.g., the TET and Clearview packages used to be free to change, but the version of EP2 is protected. (we can still read it though in the full script..) I will try the frames, that may be handy sometime anyway. Cheers, Jan (Rouke) On Sep 22, 10:03?am, Michiel Spape wrote: > Hi Jan (is that Jan-Rouke? How are you?), > If a) your experiment works in E-Prime 1 (with e-prime extensions for Tobii), then, when importing the whole thing to E-Prime 2, it doesn't anymore, I'd also suspect there's something wrong with the E-Prime 2-TET-package integration, probably best sorted by contacting the Tobii people. Certainly, b) if it crashes even with just StartTracking (which is required anyway), there's no reason to think that video as such is the problem. So, it's a long shot, but have you tried updating your TET packages? > > And yes, as for my earlier suggestion, there's software out there (virtualdub,http://www.virtualdub.org/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=34) to make your life easier. That is, exporting .avi at 25 Hz (or whatever framerate they are) writing out [originalname number], then making a loop over "number" with images showing every 40 ms, is pretty easy to accomplish, I should think (especially if you won't care about the occasional tearing). > > Best, > Mich > > Michiel Spap? > Research Fellow > Perception & Action group > University of Nottingham > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jkuipers > Sent: 21 September 2011 20:28 > To: E-Prime > Subject: eye tracking & e-prime2 > > Hi all, > > I was wondering whether any of you has had trouble with getting the > TET server working (e-prime extentions for Tobii) with e-prime 2. I > have, for a while, a nice setup working in e-prime1 but I need to > display movies now. I noticed Michiel suggested in another discussion > to use frames in e-prime 1 instead of movies, but I do not want to > resort to that just yet. > Now, Clearview is working in e-prime2, also I can open/connect TET but > when any other comminication is required (TrackStatus, StartTracking) > it crashes (no message why). So maybe there is a bug in the TET > program (the sample of e-prime does not work either) just as was the > case with earlier versions of the package for e-prime 1 (Clearvier and > TET would not work in te same experiment, to be sorted by disabling > the sentence Const DEVICE_CLOSED = 0 in one of the packages). > Anyway, I have been at it for 2 days now and it is getting on my > nerves. > > Thanks! > > Jan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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From erinjoneshiggins at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 14:26:57 2011 From: erinjoneshiggins at gmail.com (Erin) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 07:26:57 -0700 Subject: issue with multiple levels of nested lists In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for your help, Anne. Unfortunately the problem still exists that this program is only sampling from one list. The goal is to get the program to draw 2 items from different lists at the lowest level on each trial - it makes things a bit more complicated ;). I modified your program to show you what I mean by that, but for some reason I am unable to figure out how to attach things on here so I guess this description will have to do. Cheers! Erin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From atieh.moonlight at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 19:38:40 2011 From: atieh.moonlight at gmail.com (atieh bakhtiar) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:38:40 -0400 Subject: Sound object runtime error: Unable to communicate with thread that finds the sound buffer contents Message-ID: Hello, We are trying to run an eprime program which contains about 80 sound objects. Initially, the program was running successfully, however, after a couple of runs, it has stopped working and gave us the following runtime error: The following runtime error has occurred: Unable to communicate with thread that finds the sound buffer contents Extra1:441000 Extra2:0 Extra3:29866667 Extra4:No Extra5:263424 Error Number: -999 Does anyone have any idea how we can solve this problem? We have upgraded our eprime (2.0.8.90), but the problem still exist. Also, in the folder where the sound files (.wav) exist, after each run, the program generates .xml files. Any idea why these files are being created? Thanks a lot, Atieh Bakhtiar -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Sep 23 21:27:57 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:27:57 -0400 Subject: Sound object runtime error: Unable to communicate with thread that finds the sound buffer contents In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Atieh, http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=e-prime+enable+to+communicate+with+thread+that+finds+the+sound+buffer+contents That may not exaclty answer your first question, but it should serve as a starting point. As to your second question, you must be referring to files of the form -AudioLoadReport.xml. So similarly, http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=e-prime+audioloadreport.xml would serve as a starting point -- in short, these appear to serve a similar function to the movie VideoLoadReport.xml files, which was addressed at http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic2847-12-1.aspx (when they were called FilterDump.bin files). Finally, do not neglect PST's trained staff at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , they strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of it. And if you do get an answer from PST Web Support, please extend the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." (Richard Feynman, Nobel prize-winning physicist) >We are trying to run an eprime program which contains about 80 sound >objects. Initially, the program was running successfully, however, >after a couple of runs, it has stopped working and gave us the >following runtime error: > >The following runtime error has occurred: >Unable to communicate with thread that finds the sound buffer contents >Extra1:441000 >Extra2:0 >Extra3:29866667 >Extra4:No >Extra5:263424 > >Error Number: -999 > >Does anyone have any idea how we can solve this problem? We have >upgraded our eprime (2.0.8.90), but the problem still exist. > >Also, in the folder where the sound files (.wav) exist, after each >run, the program generates .xml files. Any idea why these files are >being created? > >Thanks a lot, > >Atieh Bakhtiar -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From cjp872 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 22:16:13 2011 From: cjp872 at gmail.com (cjp87) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:16:13 -0700 Subject: E-Run program not working on Windows 7, works on XP computer the files were compiled on. Message-ID: The problem seems to occur when it tries to load a video (the program runs up until that point). Upon switching to the video frame, the program fails with an error code "11045, File Name on MovieDisplay has not been set". The problem with this is that the filename (and path) is set and identical on all computers, and it works on my one XP computer, but does not on the three Windows 7 computers I tried it on. Unfortunately, I need to use the three Windows 7 computers to run participants next week, up to three at a time. I know I don't have a ton of details, but it seems that the problem is related to the operating system. E-prime worked just fine last semester on these computers, but I didn't try to load any videos in e- prime for those studies. Has anyone come across this problem before? Is there anything I can add that will help you guys understand what's going on? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From liwenna at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 12:02:45 2011 From: liwenna at gmail.com (liwenna) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 05:02:45 -0700 Subject: issue with multiple levels of nested lists In-Reply-To: <4cf4d346-ee7d-45e1-9848-c31829c72ec9@y7g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Erin, Thanks for the added details. Could it than be that the items that need to be drawn from the two nested lists, each come from an attirbute with the same name? (I called them "item" or "stim" in my example I think?). If so: that ought to be confusing to e-prime as the program could not know whether to take the item from the attribute item in the one list or the other. The reason I thought that you'd need two stims drawn from the same list (type) is that for combinations of attributes you don't even need the [stim:0] resolvement method. A higher level list can contain one of the stimitems (attribute stim1), while a nested lists can contain the others (attribute stim2). This doesn't happen to be a dot probe your building?? best, liw On 23 sep, 16:26, Erin wrote: > Thanks for your help, Anne. ?Unfortunately the problem still exists > that this program is only sampling from one list. The goal is to get > the program to draw 2 items from different lists at the lowest level > on each trial ?- it makes things a bit more complicated ;). ?I > modified your program to show you what I mean by that, but for some > reason I am unable to figure out how to attach things on here so I > guess this description will have to do. > > Cheers! > Erin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Sep 26 09:34:25 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 10:34:25 +0100 Subject: E-Run program not working on Windows 7, works on XP computer the files were compiled on. In-Reply-To: <6847962b-87ee-4f53-b80f-e758c287d71d@t11g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi, What a weird error... To be sure, however, could you see whether something /does/ work if you make an extremely simple experiment, just running that very video you want to use (one procedure with just the moviedisplay)? So, first try to see whether the simplest thing ever, including your video file, runs on the win7 pc, and only then go on with the more complex one. One of the things I had in mind which might be 'OS-related', is that if you should store your videos in documents and settings\my videos\ etc, then this folder is different between OS'es, thus running into problems. To be sure, always put your .avi (and .bmp and whatnot) files in the same directory as the experiment, and always use relative paths. Anyway, you might also try add a little inline just before the moviedisplay to see whether indeed, the filename is set, something like Debug.print "File name is: " & MovieDisplayObjectName.FileName I mean, if the filename is indeed not set (which E-Prime seems to claim), then there seems very little reason the OS is responsible for that. Best, Mich Michiel Spap? Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of cjp87 Sent: 23 September 2011 23:16 To: E-Prime Subject: E-Run program not working on Windows 7, works on XP computer the files were compiled on. The problem seems to occur when it tries to load a video (the program runs up until that point). Upon switching to the video frame, the program fails with an error code "11045, File Name on MovieDisplay has not been set". The problem with this is that the filename (and path) is set and identical on all computers, and it works on my one XP computer, but does not on the three Windows 7 computers I tried it on. Unfortunately, I need to use the three Windows 7 computers to run participants next week, up to three at a time. I know I don't have a ton of details, but it seems that the problem is related to the operating system. E-prime worked just fine last semester on these computers, but I didn't try to load any videos in e- prime for those studies. Has anyone come across this problem before? Is there anything I can add that will help you guys understand what's going on? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. 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For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From janet.trammell at gmail.com Mon Sep 26 12:05:56 2011 From: janet.trammell at gmail.com (Janet Trammell) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:05:56 -0400 Subject: E-Run program not working on Windows 7, works on XP computer the files were compiled on. In-Reply-To: <6847962b-87ee-4f53-b80f-e758c287d71d@t11g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: I had a similar problem, where I could not get e-run 2.0 to work on windows 7. I tried everything I and eprime support could think of. In the end, the only thing that worked was installing the entire eprime suite, not just e-run, on all of the testing computers. I have no idea why that suddenly made e-run work fine, especially since I only use e-run and don't open e-studio or other programs (except for once when I first installed it on each computer) , but it solved all the problems. Janet On Sep 23, 2011 6:16 PM, "cjp87" wrote: > The problem seems to occur when it tries to load a video (the program > runs up until that point). Upon switching to the video frame, the > program fails with an error code "11045, File Name on MovieDisplay has > not been set". The problem with this is that the filename (and path) > is set and identical on all computers, and it works on my one XP > computer, but does not on the three Windows 7 computers I tried it on. > Unfortunately, I need to use the three Windows 7 computers to run > participants next week, up to three at a time. > > I know I don't have a ton of details, but it seems that the problem is > related to the operating system. E-prime worked just fine last > semester on these computers, but I didn't try to load any videos in e- > prime for those studies. > > Has anyone come across this problem before? 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URL: From giladsabo at gmail.com Mon Sep 26 13:44:12 2011 From: giladsabo at gmail.com (gilis) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 06:44:12 -0700 Subject: Defining the location of dialog box Message-ID: Dear all, In my experiment people are asked to insert text through a dialog box (askbox)-the issue is that they have to enter the text while the image stimuli are still visible so it appear that the askbox always covert part of the stimulus that should be seen. My question is how can I define the location of the dialog box in the display. Many thanks Gilis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Sep 26 13:57:28 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:57:28 +0100 Subject: Defining the location of dialog box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Gilis, Interesting question, but it seems like it's already answered in the helpfile: InputBox[$](prompt [, [title] [, [default] [,[xpos],[ypos] [,helpfile,context]]]]) So: Dim a as string a = inputbox("what is a", "myTitle", "null", 2000, 5000) ...Will display an inputbox at x,y = 2000,5000. Careful, x/y is defined in twips. Twips? Twentieths of a point. Learn something new every day! Best, Michiel Spap? Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gilis Sent: 26 September 2011 14:44 To: E-Prime Subject: Defining the location of dialog box Dear all, In my experiment people are asked to insert text through a dialog box (askbox)-the issue is that they have to enter the text while the image stimuli are still visible so it appear that the askbox always covert part of the stimulus that should be seen. My question is how can I define the location of the dialog box in the display. Many thanks Gilis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. 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To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From cjp872 at gmail.com Mon Sep 26 15:17:56 2011 From: cjp872 at gmail.com (cjp87) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:17:56 -0700 Subject: E-Run program not working on Windows 7, works on XP computer the files were compiled on. In-Reply-To: <09DAEA8BC192C94EB62C8E71FC35A5D9308F77C37B@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I just tried a few things. I made a program that was just the video in a moviedisplay, which worked as intended on the E-Studio computer (from both the E-studio file and the E-run file). I ran it on another XP pc besides the one it was coded on, and it gives the same error. Searching for e-prime error 11045 gives no results anywhere (including pstnet.com). The folders are all embedded, so that shouldn't be a problem (the filepath starts with Materials/Justin/etc., all of which is within the folder the e-run file is in, so the varying documents and settings names shouldn't matter). I also tried using the inline code you supplied (and tried a few variations of it just in case that was a little over-generic), but there was no change (still worked on the computer with E-Studio, still didn't work on any other computer). All the files themselves should be identical across computers, as they're just within a dropbox shared folder, so any changes to one affects each computer. I'm running out of ideas, and for the life of me can't figure out why it would work just fine on the one computer, but not any others, if all the files are identical (and now I know the operating system isn't an issue). On Sep 26, 4:34?am, Michiel Spape wrote: > Hi, > What a weird error... To be sure, however, could you see whether something /does/ work if you make an extremely simple experiment, just running that very video you want to use (one procedure with just the moviedisplay)? So, first try to see whether the simplest thing ever, including your video file, runs on the win7 pc, and only then go on with the more complex one. One of the things I had in mind which might be 'OS-related', is that if you should store your videos in documents and settings\my videos\ etc, then this folder is different between OS'es, thus running into problems. To be sure, always put your .avi (and .bmp and whatnot) files in the same directory as the experiment, and always use relative paths. Anyway, you might also try add a little inline just before the moviedisplay to see whether indeed, the filename is set, something like > Debug.print "File name is: " & MovieDisplayObjectName.FileName > > I mean, if the filename is indeed not set (which E-Prime seems to claim), then there seems very little reason the OS is responsible for that. > > Best, > Mich > > Michiel Spap? > Research Fellow > Perception & Action group > University of Nottingham > School of Psychologywww.cognitology.eu > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of cjp87 > Sent: 23 September 2011 23:16 > To: E-Prime > Subject: E-Run program not working on Windows 7, works on XP computer the files were compiled on. > > The problem seems to occur when it tries to load a video (the program > runs up until that point). Upon switching to the video frame, the > program fails with an error code "11045, File Name on MovieDisplay has > not been set". The problem with this is that the filename (and path) > is set and identical on all computers, and it works on my one XP > computer, but does not on the three Windows 7 computers I tried it on. > Unfortunately, I need to use the three Windows 7 computers to run > participants next week, up to three at a time. > > I know I don't have a ton of details, but it seems that the problem is > related to the operating system. E-prime worked just fine last > semester on these computers, but I didn't try to load any videos in e- > prime for those studies. > > Has anyone come across this problem before? Is there anything I can > add that will help you guys understand what's going on? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Mon Sep 26 17:40:52 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:40:52 -0400 Subject: Defining the location of dialog box In-Reply-To: <09DAEA8BC192C94EB62C8E71FC35A5D9308F77C45B@EXCHANGE3.ad.no ttingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Gilis, Michiel already answered the question as posed. I would add that you could accomplish much the same end by using an input mask with an increased Max Count and adding an Echo Client, which could provide a more seamless look, but admittedly that does take rather more finesse than a simple InputBox. -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder At 9/26/2011 09:57 AM Monday, Michiel Spape wrote: >Hi Gilis, >Interesting question, but it seems like it's already answered in the helpfile: >InputBox[$](prompt [, [title] [, [default] >[,[xpos],[ypos] [,helpfile,context]]]]) >So: >Dim a as string >a = inputbox("what is a", "myTitle", "null", 2000, 5000) > >...Will display an inputbox at x,y = 2000,5000. >Careful, x/y is defined in twips. Twips? >Twentieths of a point. Learn something new every day! >Best, > >Michiel Spap? >Research Fellow >Perception & Action group >University of Nottingham >School of Psychology >www.cognitology.eu > > >-----Original Message----- >From: e-prime at googlegroups.com >[mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gilis >Sent: 26 September 2011 14:44 >To: E-Prime >Subject: Defining the location of dialog box > >Dear all, > >In my experiment people are asked to insert text through a dialog box >(askbox)-the issue is that they have to enter the text while the image >stimuli are still visible so it appear that the askbox always covert >part of the stimulus that should be seen. My question is how can I >define the location of the dialog box in the display. > >Many thanks >Gilis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Mon Sep 26 18:33:31 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:33:31 -0400 Subject: E-Run program not working on Windows 7, works on XP computer the files were compiled on. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Weighing in, although I don't have much to offer... First, Janet, thanks for your story about having better success using a full installation of EP instead of the "subject-running" installation. This confirms what I have said elsewhere -- as long as you have a full license for EP, you should *always* do a *full* installation, never do the "subject-running" installation. I do not understand why anyone (with a full license) ever does a "subject-running" installation instead of a full one, the full installation has no disadvantage while providing several advantages. Next, cjp87, if you search this Group or the PST Forum for threads on Vista, Windows 7, or more specifically Vista/Windows 7 plus sound or movies, you will find that EP2 has had trouble with sound and movies under Vista/7 from the beginning. By contrast, sound works fine for EP1 under Vista/7, and sound & movies seem OK for EP2 under XP. So around here, whenever we get a new PC to use for running subjects, although it comes with Window 7 we immediately reformat it for XP. We still use Windows 7 for *developing* EP programs, but not for running subjects (except possibly for tasks that do not use sound or movies). Maybe sound & video will finally get fixed in the upcoming release of EP2.0.10.x, but I am not holding my breath. But you have now gone further (thanks!) and confirmed that you can get the same error on another XP machine, so this seems to not be a Vista/7 problem. I do wonder about putting the movie files in a "dropbox shared folder", probably because I do not understand DropBox enough. I would want the files to live locally on each computer, and not have to access them over a network connection at runtime. But the error message of "File Name on MovieDisplay has not been set" makes it sound like it does not even get as far as looking for the file, that does sound like the MovieDisplay object does not even have a file name to work with, which as you say is really weird. I might have also suspected a codec problem, which is very common, but again this error message seems to come before you have a chance to have a codec problem. And to be sure, I also looked for the "11045" message, and like you drew a blank. Anyway, this all leads up the advice that I usually lead with -- take this up PST Web Support at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp -- they strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours, and this is pretty much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of it. And then please post back here with the results. In the meantime, if it were me and I wanted to do further debugging, I would try to find some way to have EP show me what file name it *thinks* it is sending to the MovieDisplay, although offhand I can't think of how to do that. Or, with your stripped-down test version, use the file browser in MovieDisplay to directly put the file name right in explicitly. Or, try putting the file into the same folder as your program instead of in a subfolder, and see if that makes any difference. Good luck, -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder At 9/26/2011 08:05 AM Monday, Janet Trammell wrote: >I had a similar problem, where I could not get e-run 2.0 to work on >windows 7. I tried everything I and eprime support could think >of. In the end, the only thing that worked was installing the >entire eprime suite, not just e-run, on all of the testing >computers. I have no idea why that suddenly made e-run work fine, >especially since I only use e-run and don't open e-studio or other >programs (except for once when I first installed it on each >computer) , but it solved all the problems. >Janet >On Sep 23, 2011 6:16 PM, "cjp87" ><cjp872 at gmail.com> wrote: > > The problem seems to occur when it tries to load a video (the program > > runs up until that point). Upon switching to the video frame, the > > program fails with an error code "11045, File Name on MovieDisplay has > > not been set". The problem with this is that the filename (and path) > > is set and identical on all computers, and it works on my one XP > > computer, but does not on the three Windows 7 computers I tried it on. > > Unfortunately, I need to use the three Windows 7 computers to run > > participants next week, up to three at a time. > > > > I know I don't have a ton of details, but it seems that the problem is > > related to the operating system. E-prime worked just fine last > > semester on these computers, but I didn't try to load any videos in e- > > prime for those studies. > > > > Has anyone come across this problem before? Is there anything I can > > add that will help you guys understand what's going on? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From giladsabo at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 09:10:43 2011 From: giladsabo at gmail.com (gilis) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 02:10:43 -0700 Subject: Defining the location of dialog box In-Reply-To: <4e80b945.4a962a0a.3f58.1d9aSMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thank you both, I've tried Michiel solution but regardless the values I used (from 20, 30 to 2000,5000) the ask box remained in the same position in the display. I would be happy to hear your advise on how to solve this issue. On Sep 26, 8:40?pm, David McFarlane wrote: > Gilis, > > Michiel already answered the question as > posed. ?I would add that you could accomplish > much the same end by using an input mask with an > increased Max Count and adding an Echo Client, > which could provide a more seamless look, but > admittedly that does take rather more finesse than a simple InputBox. > > -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder > > At 9/26/2011 09:57 AM Monday, Michiel Spape wrote: > > > > > > > > >Hi Gilis, > >Interesting question, but it seems like it's already answered in the helpfile: > >InputBox[$](prompt [, [title] [, [default] > >[,[xpos],[ypos] [,helpfile,context]]]]) > >So: > >Dim a as string > >a = inputbox("what is a", "myTitle", "null", 2000, 5000) > > >...Will display an inputbox at x,y = 2000,5000. > >Careful, x/y is defined in twips. Twips? > >Twentieths of a point. Learn something new every day! > >Best, > > >Michiel Spap? > >Research Fellow > >Perception & Action group > >University of Nottingham > >School of Psychology > >www.cognitology.eu > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: e-prime at googlegroups.com > >[mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gilis > >Sent: 26 September 2011 14:44 > >To: E-Prime > >Subject: Defining the location of dialog box > > >Dear all, > > >In my experiment people are asked to insert text through a dialog box > >(askbox)-the issue is that they have to enter the text while the image > >stimuli are still visible so it appear that the askbox always covert > >part of the stimulus that should be seen. My question is how can I > >define the location of the dialog box in the display. > > >Many thanks > >Gilis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 11:02:45 2011 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:02:45 -0400 Subject: Defining the location of dialog box In-Reply-To: <3c9e05b9-55d3-49a0-b27a-c7a65302a19a@12g2000vbu.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: why not try using david's suggestion of echoing participants keyboard responses to screen? set up a slide object with two subobjects - one subobject displays your image, the other subobject displays participants' text by echoing the keyboard responses. on that text subobject have two keyboard input masks enabled - with one input mask allow all button presses and 255 characters with an end action of None, and with the other keyboard only allow, say, {ENTER} with an end action set to Terminate. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:10 AM, gilis wrote: > Thank you both, I've tried Michiel solution but regardless the values > I used (from 20, 30 to 2000,5000) the ask box remained in the same > position in the display. I would be happy to hear your advise on how > to solve this issue. > > On Sep 26, 8:40?pm, David McFarlane wrote: >> Gilis, >> >> Michiel already answered the question as >> posed. ?I would add that you could accomplish >> much the same end by using an input mask with an >> increased Max Count and adding an Echo Client, >> which could provide a more seamless look, but >> admittedly that does take rather more finesse than a simple InputBox. >> >> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder >> >> At 9/26/2011 09:57 AM Monday, Michiel Spape wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Hi Gilis, >> >Interesting question, but it seems like it's already answered in the helpfile: >> >InputBox[$](prompt [, [title] [, [default] >> >[,[xpos],[ypos] [,helpfile,context]]]]) >> >So: >> >Dim a as string >> >a = inputbox("what is a", "myTitle", "null", 2000, 5000) >> >> >...Will display an inputbox at x,y = 2000,5000. >> >Careful, x/y is defined in twips. Twips? >> >Twentieths of a point. Learn something new every day! >> >Best, >> >> >Michiel Spap? >> >Research Fellow >> >Perception & Action group >> >University of Nottingham >> >School of Psychology >> >www.cognitology.eu >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: e-prime at googlegroups.com >> >[mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gilis >> >Sent: 26 September 2011 14:44 >> >To: E-Prime >> >Subject: Defining the location of dialog box >> >> >Dear all, >> >> >In my experiment people are asked to insert text through a dialog box >> >(askbox)-the issue is that they have to enter the text while the image >> >stimuli are still visible so it appear that the askbox always covert >> >part of the stimulus that should be seen. My question is how can I >> >define the location of the dialog box in the display. >> >> >Many thanks >> >Gilis > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From giladsabo at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 11:11:46 2011 From: giladsabo at gmail.com (gilis) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:11:46 -0700 Subject: Defining the location of dialog box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Because in this case my language fonts are not supported by eprime.. On Sep 27, 2:02?pm, ben robinson wrote: > why not try using david's suggestion of echoing participants keyboard > responses to screen? ?set up a slide object with two subobjects - one > subobject displays your image, the other subobject displays > participants' text by echoing the keyboard responses. ?on that text > subobject have two keyboard input masks enabled - with one input mask > allow all button presses and 255 characters with an end action of > None, and with the other keyboard only allow, say, {ENTER} with an end > action set to Terminate. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:10 AM, gilis wrote: > > Thank you both, I've tried Michiel solution but regardless the values > > I used (from 20, 30 to 2000,5000) the ask box remained in the same > > position in the display. I would be happy to hear your advise on how > > to solve this issue. > > > On Sep 26, 8:40?pm, David McFarlane wrote: > >> Gilis, > > >> Michiel already answered the question as > >> posed. ?I would add that you could accomplish > >> much the same end by using an input mask with an > >> increased Max Count and adding an Echo Client, > >> which could provide a more seamless look, but > >> admittedly that does take rather more finesse than a simple InputBox. > > >> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder > > >> At 9/26/2011 09:57 AM Monday, Michiel Spape wrote: > > >> >Hi Gilis, > >> >Interesting question, but it seems like it's already answered in the helpfile: > >> >InputBox[$](prompt [, [title] [, [default] > >> >[,[xpos],[ypos] [,helpfile,context]]]]) > >> >So: > >> >Dim a as string > >> >a = inputbox("what is a", "myTitle", "null", 2000, 5000) > > >> >...Will display an inputbox at x,y = 2000,5000. > >> >Careful, x/y is defined in twips. Twips? > >> >Twentieths of a point. Learn something new every day! > >> >Best, > > >> >Michiel Spap? > >> >Research Fellow > >> >Perception & Action group > >> >University of Nottingham > >> >School of Psychology > >> >www.cognitology.eu > > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: e-prime at googlegroups.com > >> >[mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gilis > >> >Sent: 26 September 2011 14:44 > >> >To: E-Prime > >> >Subject: Defining the location of dialog box > > >> >Dear all, > > >> >In my experiment people are asked to insert text through a dialog box > >> >(askbox)-the issue is that they have to enter the text while the image > >> >stimuli are still visible so it appear that the askbox always covert > >> >part of the stimulus that should be seen. My question is how can I > >> >define the location of the dialog box in the display. > > >> >Many thanks > >> >Gilis > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From l.bugayong at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 11:46:18 2011 From: l.bugayong at gmail.com (Suli) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:46:18 -0700 Subject: Any way to "force" a mouse click? Message-ID: Dear Community, I wonder if anyone can help me: I have a set of 3 slides and subjects need to click on an image on each of those slides. Depending on the task from the stimulus, they have the option of doing clicks on just the first 2 slides and then moving on with the space-key OR doing clicks on all three slides. So, in the Duration/Input tab of the 2nd slide, I set the Mouse & Keyboard as Input Masks. For my practice-list, I'd like to provide the subjects with feedback: The inline gathers the accuracy of the response and if it was inaccurate, E-Prime goes to a negative-feedback slide and the subjects can try again. My problem is that if the stimulus requires them to do three clicks, I can't figure out how to "force" them to do a third click because even if they press SPACE on the second slide to move on, they E-Prime goes straight to the positive feedback slide. I'd be grateful for any insights and would be glad to upload my file for you to see. Suli -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Sep 27 12:28:18 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:28:18 +0100 Subject: Defining the location of dialog box In-Reply-To: <3c9e05b9-55d3-49a0-b27a-c7a65302a19a@12g2000vbu.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi, Are you sure? Could you make a new experiment, add a single inline and copy-paste this into it? ---------- dim i as integer dim a as string for i = 2000 to 8000 step 1000 a = inputbox("what is a", "myTitle", "null", i, 2000) next i ----------- Pressing enter clearly moves the inputbox by some (presumably 50?) pixels here, I don't really see what could go wrong there. That is, other than that one of the parameters was missing and e-basic accepts that anyway (converting, for instance, the i variable to the title) ... Best, Mich PS: I also prefer the echo client solution, but the above should still work! Michiel Spap? Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gilis Sent: 27 September 2011 10:11 To: E-Prime Subject: Re: Defining the location of dialog box Thank you both, I've tried Michiel solution but regardless the values I used (from 20, 30 to 2000,5000) the ask box remained in the same position in the display. I would be happy to hear your advise on how to solve this issue. On Sep 26, 8:40?pm, David McFarlane wrote: > Gilis, > > Michiel already answered the question as > posed. ?I would add that you could accomplish > much the same end by using an input mask with an > increased Max Count and adding an Echo Client, > which could provide a more seamless look, but > admittedly that does take rather more finesse than a simple InputBox. > > -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder > > At 9/26/2011 09:57 AM Monday, Michiel Spape wrote: > > > > > > > > >Hi Gilis, > >Interesting question, but it seems like it's already answered in the helpfile: > >InputBox[$](prompt [, [title] [, [default] > >[,[xpos],[ypos] [,helpfile,context]]]]) > >So: > >Dim a as string > >a = inputbox("what is a", "myTitle", "null", 2000, 5000) > > >...Will display an inputbox at x,y = 2000,5000. > >Careful, x/y is defined in twips. Twips? > >Twentieths of a point. Learn something new every day! > >Best, > > >Michiel Spap? > >Research Fellow > >Perception & Action group > >University of Nottingham > >School of Psychology > >www.cognitology.eu > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: e-prime at googlegroups.com > >[mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gilis > >Sent: 26 September 2011 14:44 > >To: E-Prime > >Subject: Defining the location of dialog box > > >Dear all, > > >In my experiment people are asked to insert text through a dialog box > >(askbox)-the issue is that they have to enter the text while the image > >stimuli are still visible so it appear that the askbox always covert > >part of the stimulus that should be seen. My question is how can I > >define the location of the dialog box in the display. > > >Many thanks > >Gilis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Sep 27 12:34:08 2011 From: Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk (Michiel Spape) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:34:08 +0100 Subject: Any way to "force" a mouse click? In-Reply-To: <1106bb60-5d3a-4925-a8eb-242b52c02207@d18g2000yql.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: How to force a mouse click? ... have you tried applying the cane? :) More generally, you could (as covered elsewhere on this list) of course check their response (or keep polling a slide until you find a response). Anyway, the combination of subject and question get me confused - perhaps you could give a more detailed explanation? How have you structured this? What does the inline do? Is there some spiderweb of goto statements involved? Best, Mich Michiel Spap? Research Fellow Perception & Action group University of Nottingham School of Psychology www.cognitology.eu -----Original Message----- From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Suli Sent: 27 September 2011 12:46 To: E-Prime Subject: Any way to "force" a mouse click? Dear Community, I wonder if anyone can help me: I have a set of 3 slides and subjects need to click on an image on each of those slides. Depending on the task from the stimulus, they have the option of doing clicks on just the first 2 slides and then moving on with the space-key OR doing clicks on all three slides. So, in the Duration/Input tab of the 2nd slide, I set the Mouse & Keyboard as Input Masks. For my practice-list, I'd like to provide the subjects with feedback: The inline gathers the accuracy of the response and if it was inaccurate, E-Prime goes to a negative-feedback slide and the subjects can try again. My problem is that if the stimulus requires them to do three clicks, I can't figure out how to "force" them to do a third click because even if they press SPACE on the second slide to move on, they E-Prime goes straight to the positive feedback slide. I'd be grateful for any insights and would be glad to upload my file for you to see. Suli -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 14:07:14 2011 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:07:14 -0400 Subject: Any way to "force" a mouse click? In-Reply-To: <09DAEA8BC192C94EB62C8E71FC35A5D9308F77C5B6@EXCHANGE3.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: it does sound like something that will require an inline. perhaps something like If Slide3.RESP = "{SPACE}" Then... don't go straight to positive feedback. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Michiel Spape wrote: > How to force a mouse click? > ... have you tried applying the cane? :) > > More generally, you could (as covered elsewhere on this list) of course check their response (or keep polling a slide until you find a response). Anyway, the combination of subject and question get me confused - perhaps you could give a more detailed explanation? How have you structured this? What does the inline do? Is there some spiderweb of goto statements involved? > Best, > Mich > > Michiel Spap? > Research Fellow > Perception & Action group > University of Nottingham > School of Psychology > www.cognitology.eu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Suli > Sent: 27 September 2011 12:46 > To: E-Prime > Subject: Any way to "force" a mouse click? > > Dear Community, > > I wonder if anyone can help me: I have a set of 3 slides and subjects > need to click on an image on each of those slides. Depending on the > task from the stimulus, they have the option of doing clicks on just > the first 2 slides and then moving on with the space-key OR doing > clicks on all three slides. So, in the Duration/Input tab of the 2nd > slide, I set the Mouse & Keyboard as Input Masks. > > For my practice-list, I'd like to provide the subjects with feedback: > The inline gathers the accuracy of the response and if it was > inaccurate, E-Prime goes to a negative-feedback slide and the subjects > can try again. My problem is that if the stimulus requires them to do > three clicks, I can't figure out how to "force" them to do a third > click because even if they press SPACE on the second slide to move on, > they E-Prime goes straight to the positive feedback slide. > > I'd be grateful for any insights and would be glad to upload my file > for you to see. > > Suli > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Tue Sep 27 14:43:46 2011 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:43:46 -0400 Subject: Defining the location of dialog box In-Reply-To: <3c9e05b9-55d3-49a0-b27a-c7a65302a19a@12g2000vbu.googlegrou ps.com> Message-ID: Gilis, Um, read Michiel's answer again (and check the E-Basic Help topics yourself). Note that he referred to the InputBox$() function, *not* AskBox$(). The two provide similar functionality, except that InputBox$() positions its response buttons vertically while AskBox$() positions its response buttons horizonally, and InputBox$() includes arguments for xpos & ypos whereas AskBox$() does not. Furthermore, if you Google around for "vba inputbox" and "vba askbox", you will find that InputBox$() is a standard function of VBA (from which E-Basic is derived), while AskBox$() is not. So if you want to stick to well-known standardized functions rather than ones peculiar to E-Basic, you will use InputBox$() instead of AskBox$(). So give that another try. I just tried these out myself and they worked as described. -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder At 9/27/2011 05:10 AM Tuesday, you wrote: >Thank you both, I've tried Michiel solution but regardless the values >I used (from 20, 30 to 2000,5000) the ask box remained in the same >position in the display. I would be happy to hear your advise on how >to solve this issue. > >On Sep 26, 8:40 pm, David McFarlane wrote: > > Gilis, > > > > Michiel already answered the question as > > posed. I would add that you could accomplish > > much the same end by using an input mask with an > > increased Max Count and adding an Echo Client, > > which could provide a more seamless look, but > > admittedly that does take rather more finesse than a simple InputBox. > > > > -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder > > > > At 9/26/2011 09:57 AM Monday, Michiel Spape wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Gilis, > > >Interesting question, but it seems like it's > already answered in the helpfile: > > >InputBox[$](prompt [, [title] [, [default] > > >[,[xpos],[ypos] [,helpfile,context]]]]) > > >So: > > >Dim a as string > > >a = inputbox("what is a", "myTitle", "null", 2000, 5000) > > > > >...Will display an inputbox at x,y = 2000,5000. > > >Careful, x/y is defined in twips. Twips? > > >Twentieths of a point. Learn something new every day! > > >Best, > > > > >Michiel Spap? > > >Research Fellow > > >Perception & Action group > > >University of Nottingham > > >School of Psychology > > >www.cognitology.eu > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: e-prime at googlegroups.com > > >[mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gilis > > >Sent: 26 September 2011 14:44 > > >To: E-Prime > > >Subject: Defining the location of dialog box > > > > >Dear all, > > > > >In my experiment people are asked to insert text through a dialog box > > >(askbox)-the issue is that they have to enter the text while the image > > >stimuli are still visible so it appear that the askbox always covert > > >part of the stimulus that should be seen. My question is how can I > > >define the location of the dialog box in the display. > > > > >Many thanks > > >Gilis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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