Log Data - Error 10 & 86.

Tue Apr 17 15:29:15 UTC 2012

Hi David,

Oh, good point on #1. I had to check for myself, because it's actually 
pretty unexpected behavior -- even if you have a list attribute, and you 
tell it not to log, it will still log it if you change the value in your 
code. Learn something new every day.

You're absolutely right about #2, of course, though I guess I assumed that 
since the OP referred to feedback that it was just the tail end of the 
procedure. (It looks like the c.Log at the end of the procedure is all that 
"turning logging off" affects anyway. Hm.)

I vote #3 is the one that actually solves the OP's problem -- E-Prime data 
files aren't, by their nature, streamlined. They're bloated with (what's 
usually) extra stuff so it's easy to go back and check that things went the 
way you expected. 

(I might say something else on the forum post, but forum verification 
emails appear to be hosed.)

Thanks for the clarifications!
Susan

On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:38:52 AM UTC-4, McFarlane, David wrote:
>
> Susan,
>
> Thanks for weighing in.  Just a few clarifiers, in reverse order...
>
> Your #3, done with care, clearly will accomplish whatever you program it 
> to do.
>
> #2 is clever, and might work if applied with finesse -- one would 
> disable Log Data for the whole Procedure, then apply c.Log *before* 
> running any c.SetAttrib commands.  A problem arises, however, if 
> later in the Procdure you have additional data to log, e.g., a 
> subject response.  Then you would have to run c.Log again, and at 
> that time it would log all of the attributes defined by the earlier 
> c.SetAttrib commands.  Until EP2.0.10.182, there was absolutely no 
> way around that.
>
> #1 would indeed work for ordinary List attributes, but does not quite 
> apply to Bo's case, because he is using Context attributes in inline 
> statements (i.e., c.SetAttrib commands).  Up until EP2.0.10.182, EP 
> provided no way to disable logging of Context attributes -- I know, 
> because I asked PST about this (sorry, I can't find a link for that 
> right now).  But as I have posted here, EP2.0.10.182 now provides a 
> way to disable logging of individual Context attributes.
>
> Thanks for contributing,
> -- David McFarlane
>
>
> At 4/17/2012 10:17 AM Tuesday, you wrote:
> >Hi Bo,
> >
> >I agree with David that there isn't any way (that I've ever heard 
> >of, anyway) to turn logging off for just an InLine -- whatever you 
> >actually type in an InLine just goes directly into the script.
> >
> >I can think of three ways you could try to deal with the problem you 
> >describe, off the top of my head:
> >1. Turn off logging for particular attributes (columns in your list, 
> >done in the list view).
> >2. Log the data before you turn logging off, by using a c.Log 
> >command or something.
> >3. Create your own data file that only has the stuff you want and 
> >ignore the default E-Prime data file.
> >
> >HTH,
> >Susan
> >
> >On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:55:46 AM UTC-4, Bo Arleth wrote:
> >Ok, I'll guess I'll just have to live with as you said. But I checked
> >once again, and it is just the Inline Script, which is disabled.
> >So maybe in the future E-prime will add this function, so you have
> >more control over your datafile.
> >
> >Kind Regards
> >Bo Arleth
> >
> >On 16 Apr., 16:52, David McFarlane <mcfar... at msu.edu> wrote:
> > > Stock reminder:  1) I do not work for PST.  2) PST's trained staff
> > > take any and all questions 
> > athttp://<http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp>
> support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp, 
> > and they
> > > strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty
> > > much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of
> > > it.  3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page
> > > 
> > (<
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683>
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 
> >
> > > ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their YouTube
> > > channel 
> > (<http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET>http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET) 
>
> > (no Twitter feed yet,
> > > though).  4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend
> > > the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others.
> > >
> > > That said, here is my take...
> > >
> > > First, are you sure that you are disabling LogData on only the InLine
> > > object, and not for the entire Procedure that contains the InLine?  I
> > > just checked, and even the latest release of EP (2.0.10.182) shows no
> > > way to disable LogData for an InLine.
> > >
> > > In that case, I suspect that you have actually disabled LogData for
> > > the entire Procedure.  As you have discovered, disabliing LogData for
> > > a Procedure requires a great deal of finesse, and should be done only
> > > by the most advanced users under unusual circumstances.  And AFAIK
> > > LogData is not documented anywhere.
> > >
> > > So, just leave LogData enabled.  Yes, all the c.SetAttrib commands
> > > will leave extra junk in your .edat file, we have all just had to
> > > live with that.  Although, according 
> > tohttp://<http://www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=3618>
> www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=3618, 
> > the latest
> > > release of EP2 now includes a way to disable logging of specified
> > > Context attributes.
> > >
> > > -----
> > > David McFarlane
> > > E-Prime training
> > > 
> > online: 
> > <http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx>
> http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx 
> >
> > > Twitter:  @EPrimeMaster 
> > (<http://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster>twitter.com/EPrimeMaster)
> > >
> > > At 4/15/2012 03:07 PM Sunday, you wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >I am having a problem with my experiment, and as luck would have it,
> > > >it is the last thing that needs doing. I've been searching everywhere
> > > >for a solution, but now i need some assistance. I have attached my
> > > >experiment, so you can see the code.
> > > >But whenever i go to the procedure, and try to disable "Log Data" for
> > > >my FeedbackScript (An inline object that comes before the Feedback-
> > > >slide), the .txt file will not convert to the .edat2, and gives me an
> > > >error - Illegal number of levels logged or the datafile did not
> > > >convert. Either Error 10 or 86. This msg ofcourse comes right at the
> > > >end of the experiment. As soon as i enable "Log Data" for the
> > > >feedbackscript it succesfully converts the .txt file to .edat2.
> > > >Is there any way to bypass this? Or any suggestions on how to fix it?
> > > >The reason I want to disable the logging for this script is because it
> > > >has alot of useless attributes set for coordinates and such, and these
> > > >attributes clutter up the data file, and ruins its already streamlined
> > > >look :)
> > >
> > > >Please write if you need more infomation from me.
> >
> >
> >On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:55:46 AM UTC-4, Bo Arleth wrote:
> >Ok, I'll guess I'll just have to live with as you said. But I checked
> >once again, and it is just the Inline Script, which is disabled.
> >So maybe in the future E-prime will add this function, so you have
> >more control over your datafile.
> >
> >Kind Regards
> >Bo Arleth
> >
> >On 16 Apr., 16:52, David McFarlane <mcfar... at msu.edu> wrote:
> > > Stock reminder:  1) I do not work for PST.  2) PST's trained staff
> > > take any and all questions 
> > athttp://<http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp>
> support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp, 
> > and they
> > > strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty
> > > much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of
> > > it.  3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page
> > > 
> > (<
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683>
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 
> >
> > > ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their YouTube
> > > channel 
> > (<http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET>http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET) 
>
> > (no Twitter feed yet,
> > > though).  4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend
> > > the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others.
> > >
> > > That said, here is my take...
> > >
> > > First, are you sure that you are disabling LogData on only the InLine
> > > object, and not for the entire Procedure that contains the InLine?  I
> > > just checked, and even the latest release of EP (2.0.10.182) shows no
> > > way to disable LogData for an InLine.
> > >
> > > In that case, I suspect that you have actually disabled LogData for
> > > the entire Procedure.  As you have discovered, disabliing LogData for
> > > a Procedure requires a great deal of finesse, and should be done only
> > > by the most advanced users under unusual circumstances.  And AFAIK
> > > LogData is not documented anywhere.
> > >
> > > So, just leave LogData enabled.  Yes, all the c.SetAttrib commands
> > > will leave extra junk in your .edat file, we have all just had to
> > > live with that.  Although, according 
> > tohttp://<http://www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=3618>
> www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=3618, 
> > the latest
> > > release of EP2 now includes a way to disable logging of specified
> > > Context attributes.
> > >
> > > -----
> > > David McFarlane
> > > E-Prime training
> > > 
> > online: 
> > <http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx>
> http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx 
> >
> > > Twitter:  @EPrimeMaster 
> > (<http://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster>twitter.com/EPrimeMaster)
> > >
> > > At 4/15/2012 03:07 PM Sunday, you wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >I am having a problem with my experiment, and as luck would have it,
> > > >it is the last thing that needs doing. I've been searching everywhere
> > > >for a solution, but now i need some assistance. I have attached my
> > > >experiment, so you can see the code.
> > > >But whenever i go to the procedure, and try to disable "Log Data" for
> > > >my FeedbackScript (An inline object that comes before the Feedback-
> > > >slide), the .txt file will not convert to the .edat2, and gives me an
> > > >error - Illegal number of levels logged or the datafile did not
> > > >convert. Either Error 10 or 86. This msg ofcourse comes right at the
> > > >end of the experiment. As soon as i enable "Log Data" for the
> > > >feedbackscript it succesfully converts the .txt file to .edat2.
> > > >Is there any way to bypass this? Or any suggestions on how to fix it?
> > > >The reason I want to disable the logging for this script is because it
> > > >has alot of useless attributes set for coordinates and such, and these
> > > >attributes clutter up the data file, and ruins its already streamlined
> > > >look :)
> > >
> > > >Please write if you need more infomation from me.
>
>

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