Log Data - Error 10 & 86.
Susan Campbell
susangc7 at gmail.com
Wed Apr 18 19:36:29 UTC 2012
Hi Bo,
What David said about turning logging off -- you've already done that in
the code you posted.
There is an example of writing your own data file that PST provides:
http://www.pstnet.com/support/samples.asp?Mode=View&SampleID=13
To be honest, I just deal with any extra columns, personally. No one else
is going to see the raw data file anyway, so it doesn't matter how ugly it
is.
HTH,
Susan
On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:58:21 AM UTC-4, Bo Arleth wrote:
>
> Thank you both for the replys and the claryfication
> I will try your #2 option, when I get the chance. It might work, but
> I'm not sure, how you turn off logging for the entire procedure.
> Maybe you could clarify this? I'm talking about BlockProc.
> Otherwise option #3 is the best solution. But this requires a bit more
> coding on my part, and knowledge about the commands.
> Is it possible, that one of you have an experiment, where the code for
> logging is included, that I could have for reference?
>
> Kind Regards
> Bo
>
> On 17 Apr., 17:29, Susan Campbell <susan... at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> > Oh, good point on #1. I had to check for myself, because it's actually
> > pretty unexpected behavior -- even if you have a list attribute, and you
> > tell it not to log, it will still log it if you change the value in your
> > code. Learn something new every day.
> >
> > You're absolutely right about #2, of course, though I guess I assumed
> that
> > since the OP referred to feedback that it was just the tail end of the
> > procedure. (It looks like the c.Log at the end of the procedure is all
> that
> > "turning logging off" affects anyway. Hm.)
> >
> > I vote #3 is the one that actually solves the OP's problem -- E-Prime
> data
> > files aren't, by their nature, streamlined. They're bloated with (what's
> > usually) extra stuff so it's easy to go back and check that things went
> the
> > way you expected.
> >
> > (I might say something else on the forum post, but forum verification
> > emails appear to be hosed.)
> >
> > Thanks for the clarifications!
> > Susan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:38:52 AM UTC-4, McFarlane, David wrote:
> >
> > > Susan,
> >
> > > Thanks for weighing in. Just a few clarifiers, in reverse order...
> >
> > > Your #3, done with care, clearly will accomplish whatever you program
> it
> > > to do.
> >
> > > #2 is clever, and might work if applied with finesse -- one would
> > > disable Log Data for the whole Procedure, then apply c.Log *before*
> > > running any c.SetAttrib commands. A problem arises, however, if
> > > later in the Procdure you have additional data to log, e.g., a
> > > subject response. Then you would have to run c.Log again, and at
> > > that time it would log all of the attributes defined by the earlier
> > > c.SetAttrib commands. Until EP2.0.10.182, there was absolutely no
> > > way around that.
> >
> > > #1 would indeed work for ordinary List attributes, but does not quite
> > > apply to Bo's case, because he is using Context attributes in inline
> > > statements (i.e., c.SetAttrib commands). Up until EP2.0.10.182, EP
> > > provided no way to disable logging of Context attributes -- I know,
> > > because I asked PST about this (sorry, I can't find a link for that
> > > right now). But as I have posted here, EP2.0.10.182 now provides a
> > > way to disable logging of individual Context attributes.
> >
> > > Thanks for contributing,
> > > -- David McFarlane
> >
> > > At 4/17/2012 10:17 AM Tuesday, you wrote:
> > > >Hi Bo,
> >
> > > >I agree with David that there isn't any way (that I've ever heard
> > > >of, anyway) to turn logging off for just an InLine -- whatever you
> > > >actually type in an InLine just goes directly into the script.
> >
> > > >I can think of three ways you could try to deal with the problem you
> > > >describe, off the top of my head:
> > > >1. Turn off logging for particular attributes (columns in your list,
> > > >done in the list view).
> > > >2. Log the data before you turn logging off, by using a c.Log
> > > >command or something.
> > > >3. Create your own data file that only has the stuff you want and
> > > >ignore the default E-Prime data file.
> >
> > > >HTH,
> > > >Susan
> >
> > > >On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:55:46 AM UTC-4, Bo Arleth wrote:
> > > >Ok, I'll guess I'll just have to live with as you said. But I checked
> > > >once again, and it is just the Inline Script, which is disabled.
> > > >So maybe in the future E-prime will add this function, so you have
> > > >more control over your datafile.
> >
> > > >Kind Regards
> > > >Bo Arleth
> >
> > > >On 16 Apr., 16:52, David McFarlane <mcfar... at msu.edu> wrote:
> > > > > Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff
> > > > > take any and all questions
> > > > athttp://<http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp>
> > > support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp,
> > > > and they
> > > > > strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty
> > > > > much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use
> of
> > > > > it. 3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page
> >
> > > > (<
> > >
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683>
> > >
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683
> >
> > > > > ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their
> YouTube
> > > > > channel
> > > > (<http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET)
> >
> > > > (no Twitter feed yet,
> > > > > though). 4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend
> > > > > the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of
> others.
> >
> > > > > That said, here is my take...
> >
> > > > > First, are you sure that you are disabling LogData on only the
> InLine
> > > > > object, and not for the entire Procedure that contains the InLine?
> I
> > > > > just checked, and even the latest release of EP (2.0.10.182) shows
> no
> > > > > way to disable LogData for an InLine.
> >
> > > > > In that case, I suspect that you have actually disabled LogData
> for
> > > > > the entire Procedure. As you have discovered, disabliing LogData
> for
> > > > > a Procedure requires a great deal of finesse, and should be done
> only
> > > > > by the most advanced users under unusual circumstances. And AFAIK
> > > > > LogData is not documented anywhere.
> >
> > > > > So, just leave LogData enabled. Yes, all the c.SetAttrib commands
> > > > > will leave extra junk in your .edat file, we have all just had to
> > > > > live with that. Although, according
> > > > tohttp://<http://www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=3618>
> > >www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=3618,
> > > > the latest
> > > > > release of EP2 now includes a way to disable logging of specified
> > > > > Context attributes.
> >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > David McFarlane
> > > > > E-Prime training
> >
> > > > online:
> > > > <http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx>
> > >http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx
> >
> > > > > Twitter: @EPrimeMaster
> > > > (<http://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster>twitter.com/EPrimeMaster)
> >
> > > > > At 4/15/2012 03:07 PM Sunday, you wrote:
> >
> > > > > >I am having a problem with my experiment, and as luck would have
> it,
> > > > > >it is the last thing that needs doing. I've been searching
> everywhere
> > > > > >for a solution, but now i need some assistance. I have attached
> my
> > > > > >experiment, so you can see the code.
> > > > > >But whenever i go to the procedure, and try to disable "Log Data"
> for
> > > > > >my FeedbackScript (An inline object that comes before the
> Feedback-
> > > > > >slide), the .txt file will not convert to the .edat2, and gives
> me an
> > > > > >error - Illegal number of levels logged or the datafile did not
> > > > > >convert. Either Error 10 or 86. This msg ofcourse comes right at
> the
> > > > > >end of the experiment. As soon as i enable "Log Data" for the
> > > > > >feedbackscript it succesfully converts the .txt file to .edat2.
> > > > > >Is there any way to bypass this? Or any suggestions on how to fix
> it?
> > > > > >The reason I want to disable the logging for this script is
> because it
> > > > > >has alot of useless attributes set for coordinates and such, and
> these
> > > > > >attributes clutter up the data file, and ruins its already
> streamlined
> > > > > >look :)
> >
> > > > > >Please write if you need more infomation from me.
> >
> > > >On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:55:46 AM UTC-4, Bo Arleth wrote:
> > > >Ok, I'll guess I'll just have to live with as you said. But I checked
> > > >once again, and it is just the Inline Script, which is disabled.
> > > >So maybe in the future E-prime will add this function, so you have
> > > >more control over your datafile.
> >
> > > >Kind Regards
> > > >Bo Arleth
> >
> > > >On 16 Apr., 16:52, David McFarlane <mcfar... at msu.edu> wrote:
> > > > > Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff
> > > > > take any and all questions
> > > > athttp://<http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp>
> > > support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp,
> > > > and they
> > > > > strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty
> > > > > much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use
> of
> > > > > it. 3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page
> >
> > > > (<
> > >
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683>
> > >
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683
> >
> > > > > ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their
> YouTube
> > > > > channel
> > > > (<http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET)
> >
> > > > (no Twitter feed yet,
> > > > > though). 4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend
> > > > > the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of
> others.
> >
> > > > > That said, here is my take...
> >
> > > > > First, are you sure that you are disabling LogData on only the
> InLine
> > > > > object, and not for the entire Procedure that contains the InLine?
> I
> > > > > just checked, and even the latest release of EP (2.0.10.182) shows
> no
> > > > > way to disable LogData for an InLine.
> >
> > > > > In that case, I suspect that you have actually disabled LogData
> for
> > > > > the entire Procedure. As you have discovered, disabliing LogData
> for
> > > > > a Procedure requires a great deal of finesse, and should be done
> only
> > > > > by the most advanced users under unusual circumstances. And AFAIK
> > > > > LogData is not documented anywhere.
> >
> > > > > So, just leave LogData enabled. Yes, all the c.SetAttrib commands
> > > > > will leave extra junk in your .edat file, we have all just had to
> > > > > live with that. Although, according
> > > > tohttp://<http://www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=3618>
> > >www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=3618,
> > > > the latest
> > > > > release of EP2 now includes a way to disable logging of specified
> > > > > Context attributes.
> >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > David McFarlane
> > > > > E-Prime training
> >
> > > > online:
> > > > <http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx>
> > >http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx
> >
> > > > > Twitter: @EPrimeMaster
> > > > (<http://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster>twitter.com/EPrimeMaster)
> >
> > > > > At 4/15/2012 03:07 PM Sunday, you wrote:
> >
> > > > > >I am having a problem with my experiment, and as luck would have
> it,
> > > > > >it is the last thing that needs doing. I've been searching
> everywhere
> >
> > ...
> >
> > læs mere »
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