From jotapan at hotmail.com Mon Oct 1 11:23:31 2012 From: jotapan at hotmail.com (jotapan) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 04:23:31 -0700 Subject: writing to file multiple responses to same slide Message-ID: Hi to everyone, I have participants doing a free recall task at the end of a simple memory task. I want the responses to be saved on a text file. I was able to get the text file being created with the participant's response and RT (based on the "Write to File" sample file). However, participants will be entering multiple (unknown number) responses. The script I have to writing the data to the .txt file is the following (my response slide is called RecInput2): Print #1, RecInput2.RT & ebtab & RecInput2.RESP After entering each recalled word, participants will be hitting the "ENTER" key; would that help in writing script that would create individual lines for each word and corresponding RT? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Jotapan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/TxGDybKzoyIJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jotapan at hotmail.com Mon Oct 1 11:31:38 2012 From: jotapan at hotmail.com (jotapan) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 04:31:38 -0700 Subject: writing to file multiple responses to same slide In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Another alternative, without having the text file, would be to have the program identify each "ENTER" press as the ending of a response and register it individually with its corresponding RTime in a line. This could be repeated until the recall time is over. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/zh0d8LGPF3AJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From claire.salloum at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 15:39:48 2012 From: claire.salloum at gmail.com (Claire) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:39:48 -0700 Subject: Independently Manipulating Volumes Based on Response In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Alex, I have a similar design and am also having a lot of trouble making it work. Have you had any luck since posting? Thanks, Claire On Wednesday, 29 August 2012 10:12:21 UTC-4, Alex wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have a quick question about independently manipulating the volume of two > different sound files. Some quick background: > > > - There is a brief noise that constantly stays at 100dB. > - There are two longer beeps that participants will be listening for > (at 80dB) > - If participants hear either of the beeps, they are instructed to > press a key > - If the participant makes a response, the two beeps are attenuated > by 5dB > - If the participant does not make a response, the two beeps' > volumes are increased by 5dB > - The volume change should not occur instantaneously, but rather, > starting at the end of the trial > > Below, I have some code that I have tried to use. I think that my problem > is that I'm not storing the volume itself as an integer or value here. > When I try to compile the code, it states that the properties have default > values. I've looked far and wide for a solution to this on the web, and > after not finding much help, I'm posting here. Any help or advice on this > would be greatly appreciated! I have attached a snippet of the E-Basic > that has been giving me said grief. > > Dim MinusBeep As SlideSoundOut > Dim PlusBeep As SlideSoundOut > > Set MinusBeep = > CSlideSoundOut(CSMinusPresentation.States(CSMinusPresentation.ActiveState).Objects("CSMinusBeep")) > Set PlusBeep = > CSlideSoundOut(CSPlusPresentation.States(CSPlusPresentation.ActiveState).Objects("CSPlusBeep")) > > If (ActiveState Here).InputMasks.Responses.Count >= 0 Then > MinusBeep.Buffers(1).volume = MinusBeep.Buffers(1).volume - 500 > PlusBeep.Buffers(1).volume = PlusBeep.Buffers(1).volume - 500 > Else > MinusBeep.Buffers(1).volume = MinusBeep.Buffers(1).volume + 500 > PlusBeep.Buffers(1).volume = PlusBeep.Buffers(1).volume + 500 > End If > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/t2LJEgGcrhAJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From speechlab.nyu at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 17:32:17 2012 From: speechlab.nyu at gmail.com (Speech Perception Research Lab NYU) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 10:32:17 -0700 Subject: EPrime display settings for widescreen monitors Message-ID: Hi all, Our lab just got a new experimental laptop which has a slightly different screen size than our other 2. We run about 6 different experimental tasks in EPrime on all 3 of these machines, and when we use the new one with the wider monitor, all of the images and text get stretched horizontally. I understand that I can fix the problem by changing the properties for each image on EPrime, but I'm wondering if there is some more general setting that I can change for the one computer so that images won't be stretched and I won't need to change individual settings within each script. Our old laptops use a display setting of 1024x768 pixels, and this new one uses 1366x768. Changing the display settings for the computer itself doesn't fix the problem, so I wonder if I can do it within EPrime. In PowerPoint, for example, when presentations are viewed fullscreen on a widescreen monitor, it fills the sides with blank space so that everything can be done on a standard display size and avoid stretching. I'm wondering if I there is an equivalent setting within EPrime. Any thoughts? Thanks, Josh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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So, try setting your Display resolution to 1366x768, ignoring the dropdown suggestions. E-Prime should properly fill the screen and use properly square-shaped pixels. Or just try using "Match desktop resolution at runtime" = Yes, which in this case should achive the same effect. Hope that helps. ----- David McFarlane E-Prime training online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) /---- Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff take any and all questions at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , and they strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of it. 3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no Twitter feed yet, though). 4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. \---- At 10/4/2012 01:32 PM Thursday, Speech Perception Research Lab NYU wrote: >Our lab just got a new experimental laptop which has a slightly >different screen size than our other 2. We run about 6 different >experimental tasks in EPrime on all 3 of these machines, and when we >use the new one with the wider monitor, all of the images and text >get stretched horizontally. I understand that I can fix the problem >by changing the properties for each image on EPrime, but I'm >wondering if there is some more general setting that I can change >for the one computer so that images won't be stretched and I won't >need to change individual settings within each script. Our old >laptops use a display setting of 1024x768 pixels, and this new one >uses 1366x768. Changing the display settings for the computer >itself doesn't fix the problem, so I wonder if I can do it within >EPrime. In PowerPoint, for example, when presentations are viewed >fullscreen on a widescreen monitor, it fills the sides with blank >space so that everything can be done on a standard display size and >avoid stretching. I'm wondering if I there is an equivalent setting >within EPrime. > >Any thoughts? > >Thanks, > >Josh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From speechlab.nyu at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 19:38:20 2012 From: speechlab.nyu at gmail.com (Speech Perception Research Lab NYU) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 12:38:20 -0700 Subject: EPrime display settings for widescreen monitors In-Reply-To: <506dcd06.c557320a.7fdb.ffffc1bfSMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thanks so much for the response David! I do use E-Prime 2.0, but not sure where that dropdown menu is. Where is the option for "Match desktop resolution" located? And when you say to switch the display to 1366x768, do you mean within EPrime? Sorry...I'm a bit new to this. Thanks! On Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:53:14 PM UTC-4, McFarlane, David wrote: > > Josh, > > What version of E-Prime do you use? If using EP2, please note the > following statement that I got from PST Web Support when I > asked: "E-Prime 2.0 allows any resolution supported by your video > card. The suggestions in the dropdown menus do use typical 4:3 > values, but you can type in any other value you want to use provided > they are supported by your video card." As far as I can tell, this > feature has still not been publicly documented. > > So, try setting your Display resolution to 1366x768, ignoring the > dropdown suggestions. E-Prime should properly fill the screen and > use properly square-shaped pixels. Or just try using "Match desktop > resolution at runtime" = Yes, which in this case should achive the same > effect. > > Hope that helps. > > ----- > David McFarlane > E-Prime training > online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx > Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) > > /---- > Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff > take any and all questions at > http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , and they > strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty > much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of > it. 3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page > (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 > ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their YouTube > channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no Twitter feed yet, > though). 4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend > the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. > \---- > > > At 10/4/2012 01:32 PM Thursday, Speech Perception Research Lab NYU wrote: > >Our lab just got a new experimental laptop which has a slightly > >different screen size than our other 2. We run about 6 different > >experimental tasks in EPrime on all 3 of these machines, and when we > >use the new one with the wider monitor, all of the images and text > >get stretched horizontally. I understand that I can fix the problem > >by changing the properties for each image on EPrime, but I'm > >wondering if there is some more general setting that I can change > >for the one computer so that images won't be stretched and I won't > >need to change individual settings within each script. Our old > >laptops use a display setting of 1024x768 pixels, and this new one > >uses 1366x768. Changing the display settings for the computer > >itself doesn't fix the problem, so I wonder if I can do it within > >EPrime. In PowerPoint, for example, when presentations are viewed > >fullscreen on a widescreen monitor, it fills the sides with blank > >space so that everything can be done on a standard display size and > >avoid stretching. I'm wondering if I there is an equivalent setting > >within EPrime. > > > >Any thoughts? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Josh > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/yLrYq3munc8J. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From molinae at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 19:49:27 2012 From: molinae at gmail.com (molinae) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 12:49:27 -0700 Subject: EPrime display settings for widescreen monitors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Josh, I use the 'Match desktop resolution' option in several screen sizes and it works fine. Just go to Edit>Experiment on the main menu, then go to the Devices tab and edit the Display one. A new windows should appear where you can set this property and also the screen resolution. -- Enrique El jueves, 4 de octubre de 2012 12:38:21 UTC-7, Speech Perception Research Lab NYU escribió: > > Thanks so much for the response David! I do use E-Prime 2.0, but not sure > where that dropdown menu is. Where is the option for "Match desktop > resolution" located? And when you say to switch the display to 1366x768, > do you mean within EPrime? Sorry...I'm a bit new to this. > > Thanks! > > On Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:53:14 PM UTC-4, McFarlane, David wrote: >> >> Josh, >> >> What version of E-Prime do you use? If using EP2, please note the >> following statement that I got from PST Web Support when I >> asked: "E-Prime 2.0 allows any resolution supported by your video >> card. The suggestions in the dropdown menus do use typical 4:3 >> values, but you can type in any other value you want to use provided >> they are supported by your video card." As far as I can tell, this >> feature has still not been publicly documented. >> >> So, try setting your Display resolution to 1366x768, ignoring the >> dropdown suggestions. E-Prime should properly fill the screen and >> use properly square-shaped pixels. Or just try using "Match desktop >> resolution at runtime" = Yes, which in this case should achive the same >> effect. >> >> Hope that helps. >> >> ----- >> David McFarlane >> E-Prime training >> online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx >> Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) >> >> /---- >> Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff >> take any and all questions at >> http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , and they >> strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty >> much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of >> it. 3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page >> (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 >> ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their YouTube >> channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no Twitter feed yet, >> though). 4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend >> the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. >> \---- >> >> >> At 10/4/2012 01:32 PM Thursday, Speech Perception Research Lab NYU wrote: >> >Our lab just got a new experimental laptop which has a slightly >> >different screen size than our other 2. We run about 6 different >> >experimental tasks in EPrime on all 3 of these machines, and when we >> >use the new one with the wider monitor, all of the images and text >> >get stretched horizontally. I understand that I can fix the problem >> >by changing the properties for each image on EPrime, but I'm >> >wondering if there is some more general setting that I can change >> >for the one computer so that images won't be stretched and I won't >> >need to change individual settings within each script. Our old >> >laptops use a display setting of 1024x768 pixels, and this new one >> >uses 1366x768. Changing the display settings for the computer >> >itself doesn't fix the problem, so I wonder if I can do it within >> >EPrime. In PowerPoint, for example, when presentations are viewed >> >fullscreen on a widescreen monitor, it fills the sides with blank >> >space so that everything can be done on a standard display size and >> >avoid stretching. I'm wondering if I there is an equivalent setting >> >within EPrime. >> > >> >Any thoughts? >> > >> >Thanks, >> > >> >Josh >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/2iYZtLmTMYQJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pfc.groot at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 21:04:28 2012 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 23:04:28 +0200 Subject: EPrime display settings for widescreen monitors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You can find the display settings in the experiment->devices->display dialog. The screen dumps in the attached pdf show how this looks like in the current pro-release. You also might have to rearrange the layout of your screens a.s.a. you change the display resolution. (This depends on the properties that are shown on the second page of the attachment.) If the experiments should be compatible with 4:3 and wide screen, then you should carefully think about using relative positioning, adaptive font sizes, absolute image extents, relative frame widths, etc... I also advise to start using the new StartupInfo files, which allow you to specify device settings (and other attributes) by using a separate file. Unfortunately E-Prime doesn't offer a global setting to fix aspect ratio errors. Perhaps PST could implement something similar to Presentation (i.e. supporting a user defined coordinate system). best paul 2012/10/4 Speech Perception Research Lab NYU > Thanks so much for the response David! I do use E-Prime 2.0, but not sure > where that dropdown menu is. Where is the option for "Match desktop > resolution" located? And when you say to switch the display to 1366x768, > do you mean within EPrime? Sorry...I'm a bit new to this. > > Thanks! > > On Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:53:14 PM UTC-4, McFarlane, David wrote: >> >> Josh, >> >> What version of E-Prime do you use? If using EP2, please note the >> following statement that I got from PST Web Support when I >> asked: "E-Prime 2.0 allows any resolution supported by your video >> card. The suggestions in the dropdown menus do use typical 4:3 >> values, but you can type in any other value you want to use provided >> they are supported by your video card." As far as I can tell, this >> feature has still not been publicly documented. >> >> So, try setting your Display resolution to 1366x768, ignoring the >> dropdown suggestions. E-Prime should properly fill the screen and >> use properly square-shaped pixels. Or just try using "Match desktop >> resolution at runtime" = Yes, which in this case should achive the same >> effect. >> >> Hope that helps. >> >> ----- >> David McFarlane >> E-Prime training >> online: http://psychology.msu.edu/**Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx >> Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/**EPrimeMaster) >> >> >> /---- >> Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff >> take any and all questions at >> http://support.pstnet.com/e%**2Dprime/support/login.asp, and they >> strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty >> much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of >> it. 3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page >> (http://www.facebook.com/**pages/Psychology-Software-** >> Tools-Inc/241802160683 >> ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their YouTube >> channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/**PSTNET) (no Twitter feed yet, >> though). 4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend >> the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. >> \---- >> >> >> At 10/4/2012 01:32 PM Thursday, Speech Perception Research Lab NYU wrote: >> >Our lab just got a new experimental laptop which has a slightly >> >different screen size than our other 2. We run about 6 different >> >experimental tasks in EPrime on all 3 of these machines, and when we >> >use the new one with the wider monitor, all of the images and text >> >get stretched horizontally. I understand that I can fix the problem >> >by changing the properties for each image on EPrime, but I'm >> >wondering if there is some more general setting that I can change >> >for the one computer so that images won't be stretched and I won't >> >need to change individual settings within each script. Our old >> >laptops use a display setting of 1024x768 pixels, and this new one >> >uses 1366x768. Changing the display settings for the computer >> >itself doesn't fix the problem, so I wonder if I can do it within >> >EPrime. In PowerPoint, for example, when presentations are viewed >> >fullscreen on a widescreen monitor, it fills the sides with blank >> >space so that everything can be done on a standard display size and >> >avoid stretching. I'm wondering if I there is an equivalent setting >> >within EPrime. >> > >> >Any thoughts? >> > >> >Thanks, >> > >> >Josh >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/yLrYq3munc8J. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The images have been put into bitmap and everything is supposed to work as I have gone through the manuals and yet an error response comes up. the error response: Image 21; Run-time Error (Line 1175) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has occurred Marker: 2000 Now, I do not have an image 21 and I have been scanning my programme very carefully for about a week now. I would be grateful if someone could please shed some light upon this issue as I am working on a tight schedule and am unable to get hold of my 'supervisor'. I look forward to your response -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Oct 5 13:59:38 2012 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 09:59:38 -0400 Subject: programme not working In-Reply-To: <9d78ec72-c887-4d69-935f-c9b179f60590@cf4g2000vbb.googlegro ups.com> Message-ID: I just fixed a similar problem here this week, though there's no telling if this will apply to you. In our case, the error message complained about "Image 3", which made no sense. So I looked in the List with the file names. The file name column was not wide enough to show the full file names, so I made that column wider, and voilà -- I saw " ?" at the end of the first file name. Once we corrected that, all worked well. So, make triply sure that *all* the file names in your List are what you think they are. Look out especially for trailing spaces -- e.g., "Image1.bmp " is not the same as "Image1.bmp". When I tried to recreate this error using good-old EP1.2, I found that EP1.2 produced a *much* more informative error message, detailing exactly what file name was causing the trouble. Once again illustrating the maxim, "In this modern world, 'progress' often means 'regress'". ----- David McFarlane E-Prime training online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) /---- Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff take any and all questions at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , and they strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of it. 3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no Twitter feed yet, though). 4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. \---- At 10/5/2012 09:15 AM Friday, pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk wrote: >I am experiencing some problems with my programe that I just cannot >fix. I am reviewing visual spatial search with working memory and am >only using 4-16 images on 80 trials across 3 blocks including a >practice block of 10 trials. The images have been put into bitmap and >everything is supposed to work as I have gone through the manuals and >yet an error response comes up. > >the error response: > >Image 21; >Run-time Error (Line 1175) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has >occurred >Marker: 2000 > > >Now, I do not have an image 21 and I have been scanning my programme >very carefully for about a week now. > >I would be grateful if someone could please shed some light upon this >issue as I am working on a tight schedule and am unable to get hold of >my 'supervisor'. > >I look forward to your response -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Oct 5 14:18:23 2012 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:18:23 -0400 Subject: programme not working In-Reply-To: <506ee7d7.e6c1320a.6230.0ebaSMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: So I went ahead and submitted this as a bug report to PST Web Support at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , you should do the same so that this gets more attention. We will see if PST can "improve" EP2 to return it to the informative error message it produced in EP1. -- David McFarlane At 10/5/2012 09:59 AM Friday, David McFarlane wrote: >I just fixed a similar problem here this week, >though there's no telling if this will apply to >you. In our case, the error message complained >about "Image 3", which made no sense. So I >looked in the List with the file names. The >file name column was not wide enough to show the >full file names, so I made that column wider, >and voilà -- I saw " ?" at the end of the first >file name. Once we corrected that, all worked well. > >So, make triply sure that *all* the file names >in your List are what you think they are. Look >out especially for trailing spaces -- e.g., >"Image1.bmp " is not the same as "Image1.bmp". > > >When I tried to recreate this error using >good-old EP1.2, I found that EP1.2 produced a >*much* more informative error message, detailing >exactly what file name was causing the >trouble. Once again illustrating the maxim, "In >this modern world, 'progress' often means 'regress'". > > >----- >David McFarlane >E-Prime training >online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx >Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) > >/---- >Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) >PST's trained staff take any and all questions >at >http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp >, and they strive to respond to all requests in >24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their >substitute for proper documentation, so make >full use of it. 3) In addition, PST takes >questions at their Facebook page >(http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 >), and offers several instructional videos there >and on their YouTube channel >(http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no >Twitter feed yet, though). 4) If you do get an >answer from PST staff, please extend the >courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. >\---- > > >At 10/5/2012 09:15 AM Friday, pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk wrote: >>I am experiencing some problems with my programe that I just cannot >>fix. I am reviewing visual spatial search with working memory and am >>only using 4-16 images on 80 trials across 3 blocks including a >>practice block of 10 trials. The images have been put into bitmap and >>everything is supposed to work as I have gone through the manuals and >>yet an error response comes up. >> >>the error response: >> >>Image 21; >>Run-time Error (Line 1175) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has >>occurred >>Marker: 2000 >> >> >>Now, I do not have an image 21 and I have been scanning my programme >>very carefully for about a week now. >> >>I would be grateful if someone could please shed some light upon this >>issue as I am working on a tight schedule and am unable to get hold of >>my 'supervisor'. >> >>I look forward to your response > >-- >You received this message because you are >subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. >To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From mandi.millar at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 16:52:52 2012 From: mandi.millar at gmail.com (mmucd) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 09:52:52 -0700 Subject: SR box not working on Mac with Windows Message-ID: Hello! When I try to run my experiment, I get an error message that reads "Unable to open the SRBOX". I am running E-Prime from Bootcamp on a Mac. Although the Mac has Windows, the support people said this could be the problem and that Bootcamp requires a very specific setup in order to properly communicate with external devices. However, they are unable to tell me the very specific setup. Please help! Thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/x2muuCexf34J. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From strohnw at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 22:30:16 2012 From: strohnw at gmail.com (NW Stroh) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:30:16 -0700 Subject: Highlighting Objects Based on Subject Response Message-ID: Hello all, I would like to highlight an object based on the subject's response. The basic flow is a repetition of 1) a Text Frame round counter, 2) a Text Frame presentation of a starting amount, and then 3) a framing prompt on a Slide similar to the one below. The boxes are black and the lines thicker. The subject then makes their choice using 1 or 2. The subject has six seconds to make a choice and the slide stays up the whole duration. Ideally, I would like the box surrounding the selected option to change color while the slide is still displayed but I am open to any and all suggestions. I got one of the boxes to change using an Inline and the Correct State of a Feedback Slide. This ultimately interrupts our timing because the feedback displays after the slide. I tried to borrow some code from an older experiment, but I have not yet gotten it working and the coder is not available to help. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If worse comes to worse, I will use an Echo Display but I think it is a sub-optimal solution. Thank you in advance. Nate -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/QgqKp6v6h_8J. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pfc.groot at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 12:16:55 2012 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 14:16:55 +0200 Subject: Highlighting Objects Based on Subject Response In-Reply-To: <559e58d5-238f-4507-9792-3b84d4b9318f@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Nate, I usually implement object highlighting by changing the objects background colour or bounding box style. E.g. hitObject.BackColor = CColor("silver") hitObject.Draw Where hitObject is the selected slide (sub)object, which can be a SlideText or SlideImage object. You can modify any graphics attribute on the fly using similar code. (Check out the help docs about SlideText and SlideImage object attributes) If you use the keyboard to select "1" or "2", then you can use the names of the objects to get a reference to the selected slide sub object: Dim theState As SlideState Dim hitObject As SlideText 'in case this the selected object is a text object Set theState = theSlide.States(theSlide.ActiveState) Select Case theSlide.RESP case "1" hitObject = theState.Objects("Text1") case "2" hitObject = theState.Objects("Text2") End Select When using the mouse you could use the theState.HitTest(x,y) method to determine which object was selected (if any). The second part of your question is about having a fixed response window of 6 seconds, while updating the slide objects at the same time. There are several way's to implement this, and I think a simple while-loop that polls the isPending() method is the easiest: http://www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=3026 Cheers Paul 2012/10/6 NW Stroh > Hello all, > > I would like to highlight an object based on the subject's response. The > basic flow is a repetition of 1) a Text Frame round counter, 2) a Text > Frame presentation of a starting amount, and then 3) a framing prompt on a > Slide similar to the one below. The boxes are black and the lines > thicker. The subject then makes their choice using 1 or 2. The subject > has six seconds to make a choice and the slide stays up the whole duration. > Ideally, I would like the box surrounding the selected option to change > color while the slide is still displayed but I am open to any and all > suggestions. > > I got one of the boxes to change using an Inline and the Correct State of > a Feedback Slide. This ultimately interrupts our timing because the > feedback displays after the slide. I tried to borrow some code from an > older experiment, but I have not yet gotten it working and the coder is not > available to help. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If worse comes > to worse, I will use an Echo Display but I think it is a sub-optimal > solution. Thank you in advance. > > Nate > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/QgqKp6v6h_8J. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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From joyce.humphries1 at googlemail.com Tue Oct 9 09:08:33 2012 From: joyce.humphries1 at googlemail.com (Joyce Humphries) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:08:33 +0100 Subject: PscyhoPy as alternative to E-Prime? In-Reply-To: <507315c2.e229320a.3ad1.77c1SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi, I went to an introductory course for this at Nottingham Trent a while ago. It is quite similar to E-prime in a lot of ways, but appears to be much easier to use; simply take a while for you to find your way around. I have only used it for very basic experiments, but from the training session it is very user friendly, with the bonus of being free. Not sure if this has helped any. J On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:04 PM, David McFarlane wrote: > Does anybody have any experience with PsychoPy (http://psychopy.org/ ) as > an alternative to E-Prime, or just have any thoughts on this? > > Thanks, > -- David McFarlane > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe@** > googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My images are fine so I do not know where the problem could lie. > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:18:23 -0400 > To: e-prime at googlegroups.com > From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu > Subject: Re: programme not working > > So I went ahead and submitted this as a bug > report to PST Web Support at > http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp > , you should do the same so that this gets more > attention. We will see if PST can "improve" EP2 > to return it to the informative error message it produced in EP1. > > -- David McFarlane > > > At 10/5/2012 09:59 AM Friday, David McFarlane wrote: > >I just fixed a similar problem here this week, > >though there's no telling if this will apply to > >you. In our case, the error message complained > >about "Image 3", which made no sense. So I > >looked in the List with the file names. The > >file name column was not wide enough to show the > >full file names, so I made that column wider, > >and voilà -- I saw " ?" at the end of the first > >file name. Once we corrected that, all worked well. > > > >So, make triply sure that *all* the file names > >in your List are what you think they are. Look > >out especially for trailing spaces -- e.g., > >"Image1.bmp " is not the same as "Image1.bmp". > > > > > >When I tried to recreate this error using > >good-old EP1.2, I found that EP1.2 produced a > >*much* more informative error message, detailing > >exactly what file name was causing the > >trouble. Once again illustrating the maxim, "In > >this modern world, 'progress' often means 'regress'". > > > > > >----- > >David McFarlane > >E-Prime training > >online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx > >Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) > > > >/---- > >Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) > >PST's trained staff take any and all questions > >at > >http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp > >, and they strive to respond to all requests in > >24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their > >substitute for proper documentation, so make > >full use of it. 3) In addition, PST takes > >questions at their Facebook page > >(http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 > >), and offers several instructional videos there > >and on their YouTube channel > >(http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no > >Twitter feed yet, though). 4) If you do get an > >answer from PST staff, please extend the > >courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. > >\---- > > > > > >At 10/5/2012 09:15 AM Friday, pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk wrote: > >>I am experiencing some problems with my programe that I just cannot > >>fix. I am reviewing visual spatial search with working memory and am > >>only using 4-16 images on 80 trials across 3 blocks including a > >>practice block of 10 trials. The images have been put into bitmap and > >>everything is supposed to work as I have gone through the manuals and > >>yet an error response comes up. > >> > >>the error response: > >> > >>Image 21; > >>Run-time Error (Line 1175) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has > >>occurred > >>Marker: 2000 > >> > >> > >>Now, I do not have an image 21 and I have been scanning my programme > >>very carefully for about a week now. > >> > >>I would be grateful if someone could please shed some light upon this > >>issue as I am working on a tight schedule and am unable to get hold of > >>my 'supervisor'. > >> > >>I look forward to your response > > > >-- > >You received this message because you are > >subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > >To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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If that fails, then it might indicate some incompatibility between your particular image files and E-Prime; if it succeeds, then the problem lies in your particular experiment program. Good luck! -- David McFarlane At 10/9/2012 09:39 AM Tuesday, Gulshan Tahir wrote: >Hi David > >I have checked all files and they are lablled in >the correct manner. The error is still showing >up and I have even changed that specific image and yet the error remains. > >I do not know what to do as I created a new >programme and yet the same error display showed >up. My images are fine so I do not know where the problem could lie. > > > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:18:23 -0400 > > To: e-prime at googlegroups.com > > From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu > > Subject: Re: programme not working > > > > So I went ahead and submitted this as a bug > > report to PST Web Support at > > http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp > > , you should do the same so that this gets more > > attention. We will see if PST can "improve" EP2 > > to return it to the informative error message it produced in EP1. > > > > -- David McFarlane > > > > > > At 10/5/2012 09:59 AM Friday, David McFarlane wrote: > > >I just fixed a similar problem here this week, > > >though there's no telling if this will apply to > > >you. In our case, the error message complained > > >about "Image 3", which made no sense. So I > > >looked in the List with the file names. The > > >file name column was not wide enough to show the > > >full file names, so I made that column wider, > > >and voilà -- I saw " ?" at the end of the first > > >file name. Once we corrected that, all worked well. > > > > > >So, make triply sure that *all* the file names > > >in your List are what you think they are. Look > > >out especially for trailing spaces -- e.g., > > >"Image1.bmp " is not the same as "Image1.bmp". > > > > > > > > >When I tried to recreate this error using > > >good-old EP1.2, I found that EP1.2 produced a > > >*much* more informative error message, detailing > > >exactly what file name was causing the > > >trouble. Once again illustrating the maxim, "In > > >this modern world, 'progress' often means 'regress'". > > > > > > > > >----- > > >David McFarlane > > >E-Prime training > > >online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx > > >Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) > > > > > >/---- > > >Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) > > >PST's trained staff take any and all questions > > >at > > >http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp > > >, and they strive to respond to all requests in > > >24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their > > >substitute for proper documentation, so make > > >full use of it. 3) In addition, PST takes > > >questions at their Facebook page > > >(http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 > > >), and offers several instructional videos there > > >and on their YouTube channel > > >(http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no > > >Twitter feed yet, though). 4) If you do get an > > >answer from PST staff, please extend the > > >courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. > > >\---- > > > > > > > > >At 10/5/2012 09:15 AM Friday, pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk wrote: > > >>I am experiencing some problems with my programe that I just cannot > > >>fix. I am reviewing visual spatial search with working memory and am > > >>only using 4-16 images on 80 trials across 3 blocks including a > > >>practice block of 10 trials. The images have been put into bitmap and > > >>everything is supposed to work as I have gone through the manuals and > > >>yet an error response comes up. > > >> > > >>the error response: > > >> > > >>Image 21; > > >>Run-time Error (Line 1175) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has > > >>occurred > > >>Marker: 2000 > > >> > > >> > > >>Now, I do not have an image 21 and I have been scanning my programme > > >>very carefully for about a week now. > > >> > > >>I would be grateful if someone could please shed some light upon this > > >>issue as I am working on a tight schedule and am unable to get hold of > > >>my 'supervisor'. > > >> > > >>I look forward to your response > > > > > >-- > > >You received this message because you are > > >subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > > >To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are > subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > >-- >You received this message because you are >subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. >To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit >https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From bmailings at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 14:40:56 2012 From: bmailings at gmail.com (neuro2) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 07:40:56 -0700 Subject: PscyhoPy as alternative to E-Prime? In-Reply-To: <507315c2.e229320a.3ad1.77c1SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: We've found that students have had some difficulty with it. The "Builder" is not very sophisticated (compared to E-Prime) and there is still a lot that needs to be done in script which most of our students have a hard time dealing with. And like most scripting based systems it works great if you have a small stimuli set and a simple design but once you start building experiments with multiple blocks of stimuli and more complex designs (e.g. training studies) the scripts just become massive and difficult to change. We've stuck with E-Prime and some students have started using another program called Paradigm which seems to be a nice compromise between the two (because it uses Python as a built-in scripting language) and has a better experiment designer. On Monday, October 8, 2012 1:04:55 PM UTC-5, McFarlane, David wrote: > > Does anybody have any experience with PsychoPy (http://psychopy.org/ > ) as an alternative to E-Prime, or just have any thoughts on this? > > Thanks, > -- David McFarlane > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/isATyct7wO0J. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sibelozer.ege at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 20:14:52 2012 From: sibelozer.ege at gmail.com (Sibel Ozer) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:14:52 +0300 Subject: PscyhoPy as alternative to E-Prime? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, Is Paradigm also suitable with EEG experiments? On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:40 PM, neuro2 wrote: > > We've found that students have had some difficulty with it. The "Builder" > is not very sophisticated (compared to E-Prime) and there > is still a lot that needs to be done in script which most of our students > have a hard time dealing with. And like most scripting based systems it > works great if you have a small stimuli set and a simple design but once > you start building experiments with multiple blocks of stimuli and more > complex designs (e.g. training studies) the scripts just become massive and > difficult to change. We've stuck with E-Prime and some students have > started using another program called Paradigm which seems to be a nice > compromise between the two (because it uses Python as a built-in scripting > language) and has a better experiment designer. > > > > On Monday, October 8, 2012 1:04:55 PM UTC-5, McFarlane, David wrote: >> >> Does anybody have any experience with PsychoPy (http://psychopy.org/ >> ) as an alternative to E-Prime, or just have any thoughts on this? >> >> Thanks, >> -- David McFarlane >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/isATyct7wO0J. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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It's a hard to find website unfortunately... here's the link: http://www.paradigmexperiments.com On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 3:14:56 PM UTC-5, Sibel wrote: > > Hi, > Is Paradigm also suitable with EEG experiments? > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:40 PM, neuro2 >wrote: > >> >> We've found that students have had some difficulty with it. The "Builder" >> is not very sophisticated (compared to E-Prime) and there >> is still a lot that needs to be done in script which most of our students >> have a hard time dealing with. And like most scripting based systems it >> works great if you have a small stimuli set and a simple design but once >> you start building experiments with multiple blocks of stimuli and more >> complex designs (e.g. training studies) the scripts just become massive and >> difficult to change. We've stuck with E-Prime and some students have >> started using another program called Paradigm which seems to be a nice >> compromise between the two (because it uses Python as a built-in scripting >> language) and has a better experiment designer. >> >> >> >> On Monday, October 8, 2012 1:04:55 PM UTC-5, McFarlane, David wrote: >>> >>> Does anybody have any experience with PsychoPy (http://psychopy.org/ >>> ) as an alternative to E-Prime, or just have any thoughts on this? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -- David McFarlane >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/isATyct7wO0J. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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He is quite approachable, so if you want to check it out, David, I think you’d best either ask him (or the community) or install the software yourself, because I can only give you my few impressions: * It is pretty good, and they are making the visual drag-and-drop interface better. The coder is aware of E-Prime and how difficult students can find it, and has made sure that a lot of it is quite intuitive: loops (re-running the same trial procedure), for example, are displayed as loops (if I remember correctly). * Somebody mentioned python and paradigm: psychopy is built on top of psychopy and the UI just generates python code. So yes, you can do “scripting” (urgh), in python. Personally I really dislike Python and felt this was the most annoying problem of PsychoPy. I am quite certain this is just me being lazy: I’d sooner learn more C, C++, C#, basic, java, etc, than learn yet another language… Finnish is difficult enough for now. * PsychoPy has really cool stimulus features that are both part of Python (better drawing classes than ebasic) and possibly because of Jonathan’s interests in psychophysics. Want to display a gabor stimulus in a fine lines of code? You can! Want to make it rotate? Right-on! …okay, I admit I seldom want to do that sort of thing, but I’ve come to appreciate that some people like it. * I think E-Prime really shines in doing RT experiments, priming experiments with fantastically accurate timing. PST seems also really fond of that sort of thing, so I’m suspecting PsychoPy isn’t as well-tested. You can and should test that, though :) Hope that helps! Michiel From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joyce Humphries Sent: 09 October 2012 12:09 To: e-prime at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: PscyhoPy as alternative to E-Prime? Hi, I went to an introductory course for this at Nottingham Trent a while ago. It is quite similar to E-prime in a lot of ways, but appears to be much easier to use; simply take a while for you to find your way around. I have only used it for very basic experiments, but from the training session it is very user friendly, with the bonus of being free. Not sure if this has helped any. J On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:04 PM, David McFarlane > wrote: Does anybody have any experience with PsychoPy (http://psychopy.org/ ) as an alternative to E-Prime, or just have any thoughts on this? Thanks, -- David McFarlane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com . 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URL: From mspape at cognitology.eu Wed Oct 10 12:40:52 2012 From: mspape at cognitology.eu (Michiel Sovijarvi-Spape) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:40:52 +0300 Subject: PscyhoPy as alternative to E-Prime? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, Given them both having Python as built-in scripting language, these classes should theoretically be available for both. I remember physiological experiments have been done with psychopy as well, in any case. Not here to defend an old colleague’s software – I’ve always been The Go-To E-Prime person :). Then again, I bet so is David: what’s happening, getting finally fed up with E-Prime? Cheers, Michiel From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of neuro2 Sent: 10 October 2012 03:20 To: e-prime at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: PscyhoPy as alternative to E-Prime? I believe they have an add-on package that allows you to send triggers to EEG systems. I know we've had no problems with timing so I think it would be well suited to EEG. It's a hard to find website unfortunately... here's the link: http://www.paradigmexperiments.com On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 3:14:56 PM UTC-5, Sibel wrote: Hi, Is Paradigm also suitable with EEG experiments? On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:40 PM, neuro2 > wrote: We've found that students have had some difficulty with it. The "Builder" is not very sophisticated (compared to E-Prime) and there is still a lot that needs to be done in script which most of our students have a hard time dealing with. And like most scripting based systems it works great if you have a small stimuli set and a simple design but once you start building experiments with multiple blocks of stimuli and more complex designs (e.g. training studies) the scripts just become massive and difficult to change. We've stuck with E-Prime and some students have started using another program called Paradigm which seems to be a nice compromise between the two (because it uses Python as a built-in scripting language) and has a better experiment designer. On Monday, October 8, 2012 1:04:55 PM UTC-5, McFarlane, David wrote: Does anybody have any experience with PsychoPy (http://psychopy.org/ ) as an alternative to E-Prime, or just have any thoughts on this? Thanks, -- David McFarlane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/isATyct7wO0J. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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I am having problems with the stimulus screen as the images either all show up or 1 shows up that I would manually put in. 1 image does not show up on its own in the position it was in within the previous screen either in a random position or in the same position. This has put a halt in my experiment and I would like your help to solve this problem. I would like to thank you in advance for your time and comment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From jacanterbury at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 21:13:29 2012 From: jacanterbury at gmail.com (JACanterbury) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:13:29 -0700 Subject: PscyhoPy as alternative to E-Prime? In-Reply-To: <507315c2.e229320a.3ad1.77c1SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: I'm about to try PsychoPy out with a simple Sustained Attention to Response *Test* (*SART*) experiment. I'm hoping it will be successful because the robustness of using Python is attractive (esp compared with ebasic) and also the fact that its free (esp for creating scripts) and also that its multi platform. I've not looked into support for using with eeg & eye trackers though - anyone know whether any are supported? John Experimental Office, Psychology, University of Kent, UK On Monday, October 8, 2012 7:04:55 PM UTC+1, McFarlane, David wrote: > > Does anybody have any experience with PsychoPy (http://psychopy.org/ > ) as an alternative to E-Prime, or just have any thoughts on this? > > Thanks, > -- David McFarlane > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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The screen which follows is my stimulusscreen where there should be 1 image that should be shown that waspresent in the previous screen in either the same or differentposition. Also within the stimulus screen the participants can respondwith S (same) or D (different). I am having problems with the stimulusscreen as the images either all show up or 1 shows up that I wouldmanually put in. 1 image does not show up on its own in the positionit was in within the previous screen either in a random position or inthe same position. This has put a halt in my experiment and I would like your help to solve this problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From cox.karin.m at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 18:14:48 2012 From: cox.karin.m at gmail.com (kc) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:14:48 -0700 Subject: apply bold format selectively within TextDisplay? Message-ID: Out of curiosity, I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to selectively set as "bold" only part of the text within a TextDisplay object. My best guess is that this is impossible, but I don't know enough to rule out the possibility that some kind of special character or code could do this (for example, something analogous to the newline character '\n'). I am aware that a similar goal could be accomplished using a Slide object, so this is really just a question of how much one can push the capabilities of TextDisplay Objects. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. 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For the ultimate in control, you would have to go to Canvas.Text and associated methods (see that topic in the E-Basic Help facility), I did that for one project. ----- David McFarlane E-Prime training online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) At 10/16/2012 02:14 PM Tuesday, kc wrote: >Out of curiosity, I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to >selectively set as "bold" only part of the text within a TextDisplay >object. My best guess is that this is impossible, but I don't know >enough to rule out the possibility that some kind of special >character or code could do this (for example, something analogous to >the newline character '\n'). > >I am aware that a similar goal could be accomplished using a Slide >object, so this is really just a question of how much one can push >the capabilities of TextDisplay Objects. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From vaidyamukesh5 at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 05:25:07 2012 From: vaidyamukesh5 at gmail.com (Mukesh Vaidya) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:55:07 +0530 Subject: Probe.OnsetTime Message-ID: Hi All, What is the meaning of this column in EDAT file. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vaidyamukesh5 at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 06:13:01 2012 From: vaidyamukesh5 at gmail.com (Mukesh Vaidya) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:13:01 -0700 Subject: Probe.OnsetTime In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wednesday, 17 October 2012 10:55:22 UTC+5:30, Mukesh Vaidya wrote: > > Hi All, > What is the meaning of this column in EDAT file > i.e Probe.OnsetTime > > Thanks > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/B0Nwj8zOrIwJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk Wed Oct 17 13:21:52 2012 From: pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk (pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 06:21:52 -0700 Subject: Feedback type Message-ID: Hi All I am stuck on how I can randomise feedback type. My experiemnet is going to test positive i.e. well done or negative i.e. try harder, feedback. However this will be randomised across 80 trials across 4 blocks. Is there a way this can be done? As the manuals do not have the answer and my supervisor does not know how to do it. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Wed Oct 17 13:44:24 2012 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:44:24 -0400 Subject: Probe.OnsetTime In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is explained in the manuals that came with E-Prime. (Or at least it was in the original manuals, the latest User's Guide has been substantially revised, not necessarily for the better.) --------------- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 Mukesh Vaidya wrote: > What is the meaning of this column in EDAT file. > > Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From cox.karin.m at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 18:23:53 2012 From: cox.karin.m at gmail.com (kc) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:23:53 -0700 Subject: apply bold format selectively within TextDisplay? In-Reply-To: <507db8d1.c557320a.4063.6db1SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: Ah OK. Thanks for the confirmation, good to know I'm not missing something obvious. On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:43:16 PM UTC-4, McFarlane, David wrote: > > Correct on all counts. TextDisplay applies the same text > characteristics to all the text, no way around that. And as you > said, one could work around this to some extent with a Slide, > although that would not automatically adjust for text that may appear > in different places for different sentences. For the ultimate in > control, you would have to go to Canvas.Text and associated methods > (see that topic in the E-Basic Help facility), I did that for one project. > > ----- > David McFarlane > E-Prime training > online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx > Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) > > > At 10/16/2012 02:14 PM Tuesday, kc wrote: > >Out of curiosity, I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to > >selectively set as "bold" only part of the text within a TextDisplay > >object. My best guess is that this is impossible, but I don't know > >enough to rule out the possibility that some kind of special > >character or code could do this (for example, something analogous to > >the newline character '\n'). > > > >I am aware that a similar goal could be accomplished using a Slide > >object, so this is really just a question of how much one can push > >the capabilities of TextDisplay Objects. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/82dCixDNK4UJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From elinebp at hotmail.com Fri Oct 19 11:27:36 2012 From: elinebp at hotmail.com (Eline Borch Petersen) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 04:27:36 -0700 Subject: Feedback type In-Reply-To: <70447792-85e5-4c54-be58-f9b4efcd6100@h16g2000vby.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: I'm not sure I understand. You want to randomize the 'feedback' independend of whether people answer correct or not? If this is the case I wouldn't use the feedback-slide, but a regular slide displaying the text ('try harder' or 'well sone') which you specify in your TrialList. Does it make sense? Eline -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/LRqr3PX6pyIJ. 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Another way is to all relevant information for each trial into a .txt file (reaction time, which answer is given, what the correct answer is, what answering possibilities they had ect.). Then you have all the information saved for analysis in another program. Hope it helpes Eline -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/8RCVvJFKnGwJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Under the Nested column create two new lists: CorrectFeedbackList and IncorrectFeedbackList. Make sure both these lists are on each row in the Nested column so that they will be accessible on every trial. Now open your newly created and nested, CorrectFeedbackList. Set it to Random selection. Add a column or Attribute called CorrectFeedback. Write all your various correct feedback messages, one on each row. For instance "Well done!" on Row1, and "Keep up the good work!" on Row2, etc.. Now do the same with your IncorrectFeedbackList, adding a column called IncorrectFeedback, and filling each row with an appropriate feedback message. That should do it. Ben On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:21 AM, pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk wrote: > Hi All > > I am stuck on how I can randomise feedback type. My experiemnet is > going to test positive i.e. well done or negative i.e. try harder, > feedback. However this will be randomised across 80 trials across 4 > blocks. Is there a way this can be done? As the manuals do not have > the answer and my supervisor does not know how to do it. > > Thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Oct 19 16:22:36 2012 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:22:36 -0400 Subject: Probe.OnsetTime In-Reply-To: <507EB638.3040803@msu.edu> Message-ID: I should also mention the explanation of E-Prime Time Audit measures posted at https://groups.google.com/d/topic/e-prime/OeiZ00V9SRc/discussion . ----- David McFarlane E-Prime training online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) At 10/17/2012 09:44 AM Wednesday, David McFarlane wrote: >This is explained in the manuals that came with E-Prime. (Or at >least it was in the original manuals, the latest User's Guide has >been substantially revised, not necessarily for the better.) > >--------------- >David McFarlane > > >Mukesh Vaidya wrote: >> What is the meaning of this column in EDAT file. >>Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From derekins at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 18:52:54 2012 From: derekins at gmail.com (Derek Stiles) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:52:54 -0700 Subject: Show a slide every fourth trial Message-ID: I am very naive at coding. I want to have a slide displayed after every 4th trial. This is as far as I've gotten: If Lipreading.Cycle % 3 = 0 Then How would I tell it to display Slide4? Also, is there any kind of coding manual for E-Prime? Thanks, Derek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/9OHYtiep5yEJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pfc.groot at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 20:05:23 2012 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:05:23 +0200 Subject: Show a slide every fourth trial In-Reply-To: <60e58310-4271-4852-8d27-1067e01ae83f@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Derek, What I normally do to find out which function calls are required, is inspecting the script that EStudio generates in the full script window. (This is in fact the way I learned the EPrime lingo.) Just place Slide4 on the trial procedure and have a look at the code that is inserted. Then, replace the slide with an inline script that holds the relevant lines in your if-then construct. Instead of this you could also use a goto+label construct to skip the Slide when cycle<>3. I normally don't like using goto-statements, but the advantage in this case is that the Slide icon will remain visible on the procedure. Another advantage is that you don't have to 'discover' the required code to run and display the slide. best paul 2012/10/19 Derek Stiles > I am very naive at coding. I want to have a slide displayed after every > 4th trial. > > This is as far as I've gotten: > > If Lipreading.Cycle % 3 = 0 Then > > > How would I tell it to display Slide4? > > Also, is there any kind of coding manual for E-Prime? > > Thanks, > > Derek > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/9OHYtiep5yEJ. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Oct 19 21:17:01 2012 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:17:01 -0400 Subject: programme not working In-Reply-To: <506eec3b.e229320a.3ad1.0f82SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: PST Web Support confirms this as a bug in EP2.0.10.242, and it will be fixed in a future version of EP2. -- David McFarlane At 10/5/2012 10:18 AM Friday, you wrote: >So I went ahead and submitted this as a bug >report to PST Web Support at >http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp >, you should do the same so that this gets more >attention. We will see if PST can "improve" EP2 >to return it to the informative error message it produced in EP1. > >-- David McFarlane > > >At 10/5/2012 09:59 AM Friday, David McFarlane wrote: >>I just fixed a similar problem here this week, >>though there's no telling if this will apply to >>you. In our case, the error message complained >>about "Image 3", which made no sense. So I >>looked in the List with the file names. The >>file name column was not wide enough to show >>the full file names, so I made that column >>wider, and voilà -- I saw " ?" at the end of >>the first file name. Once we corrected that, all worked well. >> >>So, make triply sure that *all* the file names >>in your List are what you think they are. Look >>out especially for trailing spaces -- e.g., >>"Image1.bmp " is not the same as "Image1.bmp". >> >> >>When I tried to recreate this error using >>good-old EP1.2, I found that EP1.2 produced a >>*much* more informative error message, >>detailing exactly what file name was causing >>the trouble. Once again illustrating the >>maxim, "In this modern world, 'progress' often means 'regress'". >> >> >>----- >>David McFarlane >>E-Prime training >>online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx >>Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) >> >>/---- >>Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) >>PST's trained staff take any and all questions >>at >>http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp >>, and they strive to respond to all requests in >>24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their >>substitute for proper documentation, so make >>full use of it. 3) In addition, PST takes >>questions at their Facebook page >>(http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 >>), and offers several instructional videos >>there and on their YouTube channel >>(http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no >>Twitter feed yet, though). 4) If you do get an >>answer from PST staff, please extend the >>courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. >>\---- >> >> >>At 10/5/2012 09:15 AM Friday, pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk wrote: >>>I am experiencing some problems with my programe that I just cannot >>>fix. I am reviewing visual spatial search with working memory and am >>>only using 4-16 images on 80 trials across 3 blocks including a >>>practice block of 10 trials. The images have been put into bitmap and >>>everything is supposed to work as I have gone through the manuals and >>>yet an error response comes up. >>> >>>the error response: >>> >>>Image 21; >>>Run-time Error (Line 1175) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has >>>occurred >>>Marker: 2000 >>> >>> >>>Now, I do not have an image 21 and I have been scanning my programme >>>very carefully for about a week now. >>> >>>I would be grateful if someone could please shed some light upon this >>>issue as I am working on a tight schedule and am unable to get hold of >>>my 'supervisor'. >>> >>>I look forward to your response >> >>-- >>You received this message because you are >>subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. >>To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. >>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >-- >You received this message because you are >subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. >To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From carlitosia at gmail.com Sun Oct 21 22:28:44 2012 From: carlitosia at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Carlos_Gonz=C3=A1lez?=) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:28:44 -0700 Subject: Analyzing wrong answers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks a lot Eline! I've already managed to find a solution, very similar to your first advice! El viernes, 19 de octubre de 2012 13:44:06 UTC+2, Eline Borch Petersen escribió: > > Without knowing any details about your experiment I'd recommend one of two > ways: > > If you are only interested in havin the result given to you be E-Prime, > you can define a global variable in your main script (e.g. wrongAnswer1, > wrongAnswer2 ect). Initiate the variables in the beginning of you > experiment using an InLine. After each trial, use an InLine to detect which > anser is given and correct the according value ( wrongAnswer1 = > wrongAnswer+1). In the end of your experiment you can calculate the total > number og incorrect answers, the distribution across wrong answers ect. > > Another way is to all relevant information for each trial into a .txt file > (reaction time, which answer is given, what the correct answer is, what > answering possibilities they had ect.). Then you have all the information > saved for analysis in another program. > > Hope it helpes > > Eline > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/4HOIm7tRt5IJ. 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All work fine except that when starting the actual experiment, the first cycle of the TypeChoice list quits after the first sample, and then for the next cycles it runs all the three samples as set in the reset/exit window. I encounter the same problem even if I don`t run the staircase procedure, just start from the experiment, and then run it again using the go to label. So the procedure is ok if I run it for the first time, but when I start again after the goto label, the first cycle is terminated always too early. Hope this is clear, and someone could help me finding (the problem and) the solution. Thanks in advance, Marianna -- Marianna Boros fridaferi at gmail.com +48886648981 +36205148816 -- Marianna Boros fridaferi at gmail.com +48886648981 +36205148816 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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So far I have already gone in and allowed both Key Presses and Releases. My issue is actually how to get the program to recognize the release of the key and start recording the time, so I decided to use the Clock.Read function, but I'm not sure exactly how to implement it. Any assistance with this would be TRULY appreciated. Here is a bit of the code I have come up with, but I know that I am probably nowhere near where I need to be: Dim kbState As Integer Do If Keyboard.GetKeyState("u") = ebStatePress And _ Keyboard.GetKeyState("o") = ebStatePress Then If kbState = Keyboard.GetKeyState ("{END}")= 0 Then Clock.Read ElseIf kbState = Keyboard.GetKeyState ("{TAB}") = 1 Then Clock.Read - Stimulus.OnsetTime -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. 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That might get you most of the way, and if needed you could supplement this with some simple computations in inline code. ----- David McFarlane E-Prime training online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) /---- Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff take any and all questions at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , and they strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of it. 3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no Twitter feed yet, though). 4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. \---- At 10/30/2012 04:08 PM Tuesday, Courtney Griffin wrote: >basically I want it to go something like this: > >at stimulus display, read the clock and get the time (will name this >variable T1) >after key release, read the clock and get that time (will name this >variable T2) >at key press (final response), read the clock and get that time >(will name variable T3) > >RT (reaction time) = T2-T1 >MT (movement time) = T3-T1 > > >On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:26:31 PM UTC-4, Courtney Griffin wrote: >Hello all, > >I am programming my first experiment with E-Prime and have run into >some issues I was hoping that someone might be able to help with. >For my experiment I will be having subjects simultaneously hold down >two keys (u and o), a stimulus is presented and they are to respond >to it by releasing one of the two keys and making a movement to >another to respond ({TAB} or {END}). Additionally, I would also like >to record movement time (time from release of key to response) and >reaction time (time of release of one of the initial keys). So far I >have already gone in and allowed both Key Presses and Releases. My >issue is actually how to get the program to recognize the release of >the key and start recording the time, so I decided to use the >Clock.Read function, but I'm not sure exactly how to implement it. >Any assistance with this would be TRULY appreciated. Here is a bit >of the code I have come up with, but I know that I am probably >nowhere near where I need to be: > >Dim kbState As Integer > >Do > >If Keyboard.GetKeyState("u") = ebStatePress And _ >Keyboard.GetKeyState("o") = ebStatePress Then > >If kbState = Keyboard.GetKeyState ("{END}")= 0 Then >Clock.Read > >ElseIf kbState = Keyboard.GetKeyState ("{TAB}") = 1 Then >Clock.Read - Stimulus.OnsetTime -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From ianajcxcx at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 20:08:41 2012 From: ianajcxcx at gmail.com (Courtney Griffin) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:08:41 -0700 Subject: key press/release & RT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: basically I want it to go something like this: at stimulus display, read the clock and get the time (will name this variable T1) after key release, read the clock and get that time (will name this variable T2) at key press (final response), read the clock and get that time (will name variable T3) RT (reaction time) = T2-T1 MT (movement time) = T3-T1 On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:26:31 PM UTC-4, Courtney Griffin wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am programming my first experiment with E-Prime and have run into some > issues I was hoping that someone might be able to help with. For my > experiment I will be having subjects simultaneously hold down two keys (u > and o), a stimulus is presented and they are to respond to it by releasing > one of the two keys and making a movement to another to respond ({TAB} or > {END}). Additionally, I would also like to record movement time (time from > release of key to response) and reaction time (time of release of one of > the initial keys). So far I have already gone in and allowed both Key > Presses and Releases. My issue is actually how to get the program to > recognize the release of the key and start recording the time, so I decided > to use the Clock.Read function, but I'm not sure exactly how to implement > it. Any assistance with this would be TRULY appreciated. Here is a bit of > the code I have come up with, but I know that I am probably nowhere near > where I need to be: > > Dim kbState As Integer > > Do > > If Keyboard.GetKeyState("u") = ebStatePress And _ > Keyboard.GetKeyState("o") = ebStatePress Then > > If kbState = Keyboard.GetKeyState ("{END}")= 0 Then > Clock.Read > > ElseIf kbState = Keyboard.GetKeyState ("{TAB}") = 1 Then > Clock.Read - Stimulus.OnsetTime > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/yCf3l99sWIYJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/1EHfBZClU6kJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pipgriffiths86 at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 23:46:48 2012 From: pipgriffiths86 at gmail.com (Pip) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 23:46:48 +0000 Subject: Using a joystick as a response and defining correct response. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm not sure that you can do this automatically, but if you code some inline to store the final x co ord of the cursor then you can look at this in the output file and use filters to determine whether the correct answer was given. You can also set up a screen that will respond if the answer was "correct" through using this method. Essentially you set a variable, get EPRime to write the x co ord to that variable and then get a conditional statement to read that file and feedback the necessary response to the participant Hope this helped Pip Sent from my iPhone On 31 Oct 2012, at 21:00, Diana Laura Rosa Leyra wrote: > All, > > We would like to use a joystick as a response device. Our task requires participants to judge whether the hand they see on the screen is a right or left hand. We'd like for them to respond with the joystick. Basically, I am trying to define a correct answer in terms of the position of the joystick at the time of response. Anyone have any ideas on how this would work and if it would work at all? > > I am working with EPrime 2.0 Professional and know that I have to use a bit of code, but am unsure as to where or how to use it. > > Thank you, > Diana > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/1EHfBZClU6kJ. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. 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The script I have to writing the data to the .txt file is the following (my response slide is called RecInput2): Print #1, RecInput2.RT & ebtab & RecInput2.RESP After entering each recalled word, participants will be hitting the "ENTER" key; would that help in writing script that would create individual lines for each word and corresponding RT? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Jotapan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/TxGDybKzoyIJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Some quick background: > > > - There is a brief noise that constantly stays at 100dB. > - There are two longer beeps that participants will be listening for > (at 80dB) > - If participants hear either of the beeps, they are instructed to > press a key > - If the participant makes a response, the two beeps are attenuated > by 5dB > - If the participant does not make a response, the two beeps' > volumes are increased by 5dB > - The volume change should not occur instantaneously, but rather, > starting at the end of the trial > > Below, I have some code that I have tried to use. I think that my problem > is that I'm not storing the volume itself as an integer or value here. > When I try to compile the code, it states that the properties have default > values. I've looked far and wide for a solution to this on the web, and > after not finding much help, I'm posting here. Any help or advice on this > would be greatly appreciated! I have attached a snippet of the E-Basic > that has been giving me said grief. > > Dim MinusBeep As SlideSoundOut > Dim PlusBeep As SlideSoundOut > > Set MinusBeep = > CSlideSoundOut(CSMinusPresentation.States(CSMinusPresentation.ActiveState).Objects("CSMinusBeep")) > Set PlusBeep = > CSlideSoundOut(CSPlusPresentation.States(CSPlusPresentation.ActiveState).Objects("CSPlusBeep")) > > If (ActiveState Here).InputMasks.Responses.Count >= 0 Then > MinusBeep.Buffers(1).volume = MinusBeep.Buffers(1).volume - 500 > PlusBeep.Buffers(1).volume = PlusBeep.Buffers(1).volume - 500 > Else > MinusBeep.Buffers(1).volume = MinusBeep.Buffers(1).volume + 500 > PlusBeep.Buffers(1).volume = PlusBeep.Buffers(1).volume + 500 > End If > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. 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I understand that I can fix the problem by changing the properties for each image on EPrime, but I'm wondering if there is some more general setting that I can change for the one computer so that images won't be stretched and I won't need to change individual settings within each script. Our old laptops use a display setting of 1024x768 pixels, and this new one uses 1366x768. Changing the display settings for the computer itself doesn't fix the problem, so I wonder if I can do it within EPrime. In PowerPoint, for example, when presentations are viewed fullscreen on a widescreen monitor, it fills the sides with blank space so that everything can be done on a standard display size and avoid stretching. I'm wondering if I there is an equivalent setting within EPrime. Any thoughts? Thanks, Josh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/ByXMgK-lS1UJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Thu Oct 4 17:52:57 2012 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 13:52:57 -0400 Subject: EPrime display settings for widescreen monitors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Josh, What version of E-Prime do you use? If using EP2, please note the following statement that I got from PST Web Support when I asked: "E-Prime 2.0 allows any resolution supported by your video card. The suggestions in the dropdown menus do use typical 4:3 values, but you can type in any other value you want to use provided they are supported by your video card." As far as I can tell, this feature has still not been publicly documented. So, try setting your Display resolution to 1366x768, ignoring the dropdown suggestions. E-Prime should properly fill the screen and use properly square-shaped pixels. Or just try using "Match desktop resolution at runtime" = Yes, which in this case should achive the same effect. Hope that helps. ----- David McFarlane E-Prime training online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) /---- Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff take any and all questions at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , and they strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of it. 3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no Twitter feed yet, though). 4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. \---- At 10/4/2012 01:32 PM Thursday, Speech Perception Research Lab NYU wrote: >Our lab just got a new experimental laptop which has a slightly >different screen size than our other 2. We run about 6 different >experimental tasks in EPrime on all 3 of these machines, and when we >use the new one with the wider monitor, all of the images and text >get stretched horizontally. I understand that I can fix the problem >by changing the properties for each image on EPrime, but I'm >wondering if there is some more general setting that I can change >for the one computer so that images won't be stretched and I won't >need to change individual settings within each script. Our old >laptops use a display setting of 1024x768 pixels, and this new one >uses 1366x768. Changing the display settings for the computer >itself doesn't fix the problem, so I wonder if I can do it within >EPrime. In PowerPoint, for example, when presentations are viewed >fullscreen on a widescreen monitor, it fills the sides with blank >space so that everything can be done on a standard display size and >avoid stretching. I'm wondering if I there is an equivalent setting >within EPrime. > >Any thoughts? > >Thanks, > >Josh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From speechlab.nyu at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 19:38:20 2012 From: speechlab.nyu at gmail.com (Speech Perception Research Lab NYU) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 12:38:20 -0700 Subject: EPrime display settings for widescreen monitors In-Reply-To: <506dcd06.c557320a.7fdb.ffffc1bfSMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thanks so much for the response David! I do use E-Prime 2.0, but not sure where that dropdown menu is. Where is the option for "Match desktop resolution" located? And when you say to switch the display to 1366x768, do you mean within EPrime? Sorry...I'm a bit new to this. Thanks! On Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:53:14 PM UTC-4, McFarlane, David wrote: > > Josh, > > What version of E-Prime do you use? If using EP2, please note the > following statement that I got from PST Web Support when I > asked: "E-Prime 2.0 allows any resolution supported by your video > card. The suggestions in the dropdown menus do use typical 4:3 > values, but you can type in any other value you want to use provided > they are supported by your video card." As far as I can tell, this > feature has still not been publicly documented. > > So, try setting your Display resolution to 1366x768, ignoring the > dropdown suggestions. E-Prime should properly fill the screen and > use properly square-shaped pixels. Or just try using "Match desktop > resolution at runtime" = Yes, which in this case should achive the same > effect. > > Hope that helps. > > ----- > David McFarlane > E-Prime training > online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx > Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) > > /---- > Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff > take any and all questions at > http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , and they > strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty > much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of > it. 3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page > (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 > ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their YouTube > channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no Twitter feed yet, > though). 4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend > the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. > \---- > > > At 10/4/2012 01:32 PM Thursday, Speech Perception Research Lab NYU wrote: > >Our lab just got a new experimental laptop which has a slightly > >different screen size than our other 2. We run about 6 different > >experimental tasks in EPrime on all 3 of these machines, and when we > >use the new one with the wider monitor, all of the images and text > >get stretched horizontally. I understand that I can fix the problem > >by changing the properties for each image on EPrime, but I'm > >wondering if there is some more general setting that I can change > >for the one computer so that images won't be stretched and I won't > >need to change individual settings within each script. Our old > >laptops use a display setting of 1024x768 pixels, and this new one > >uses 1366x768. Changing the display settings for the computer > >itself doesn't fix the problem, so I wonder if I can do it within > >EPrime. In PowerPoint, for example, when presentations are viewed > >fullscreen on a widescreen monitor, it fills the sides with blank > >space so that everything can be done on a standard display size and > >avoid stretching. I'm wondering if I there is an equivalent setting > >within EPrime. > > > >Any thoughts? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Josh > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/yLrYq3munc8J. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From molinae at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 19:49:27 2012 From: molinae at gmail.com (molinae) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 12:49:27 -0700 Subject: EPrime display settings for widescreen monitors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Josh, I use the 'Match desktop resolution' option in several screen sizes and it works fine. Just go to Edit>Experiment on the main menu, then go to the Devices tab and edit the Display one. A new windows should appear where you can set this property and also the screen resolution. -- Enrique El jueves, 4 de octubre de 2012 12:38:21 UTC-7, Speech Perception Research Lab NYU escribi?: > > Thanks so much for the response David! I do use E-Prime 2.0, but not sure > where that dropdown menu is. Where is the option for "Match desktop > resolution" located? And when you say to switch the display to 1366x768, > do you mean within EPrime? Sorry...I'm a bit new to this. > > Thanks! > > On Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:53:14 PM UTC-4, McFarlane, David wrote: >> >> Josh, >> >> What version of E-Prime do you use? If using EP2, please note the >> following statement that I got from PST Web Support when I >> asked: "E-Prime 2.0 allows any resolution supported by your video >> card. The suggestions in the dropdown menus do use typical 4:3 >> values, but you can type in any other value you want to use provided >> they are supported by your video card." As far as I can tell, this >> feature has still not been publicly documented. >> >> So, try setting your Display resolution to 1366x768, ignoring the >> dropdown suggestions. E-Prime should properly fill the screen and >> use properly square-shaped pixels. Or just try using "Match desktop >> resolution at runtime" = Yes, which in this case should achive the same >> effect. >> >> Hope that helps. >> >> ----- >> David McFarlane >> E-Prime training >> online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx >> Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) >> >> /---- >> Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff >> take any and all questions at >> http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , and they >> strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty >> much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of >> it. 3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page >> (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 >> ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their YouTube >> channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no Twitter feed yet, >> though). 4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend >> the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. >> \---- >> >> >> At 10/4/2012 01:32 PM Thursday, Speech Perception Research Lab NYU wrote: >> >Our lab just got a new experimental laptop which has a slightly >> >different screen size than our other 2. We run about 6 different >> >experimental tasks in EPrime on all 3 of these machines, and when we >> >use the new one with the wider monitor, all of the images and text >> >get stretched horizontally. I understand that I can fix the problem >> >by changing the properties for each image on EPrime, but I'm >> >wondering if there is some more general setting that I can change >> >for the one computer so that images won't be stretched and I won't >> >need to change individual settings within each script. Our old >> >laptops use a display setting of 1024x768 pixels, and this new one >> >uses 1366x768. Changing the display settings for the computer >> >itself doesn't fix the problem, so I wonder if I can do it within >> >EPrime. In PowerPoint, for example, when presentations are viewed >> >fullscreen on a widescreen monitor, it fills the sides with blank >> >space so that everything can be done on a standard display size and >> >avoid stretching. I'm wondering if I there is an equivalent setting >> >within EPrime. >> > >> >Any thoughts? >> > >> >Thanks, >> > >> >Josh >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/2iYZtLmTMYQJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pfc.groot at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 21:04:28 2012 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 23:04:28 +0200 Subject: EPrime display settings for widescreen monitors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You can find the display settings in the experiment->devices->display dialog. The screen dumps in the attached pdf show how this looks like in the current pro-release. You also might have to rearrange the layout of your screens a.s.a. you change the display resolution. (This depends on the properties that are shown on the second page of the attachment.) If the experiments should be compatible with 4:3 and wide screen, then you should carefully think about using relative positioning, adaptive font sizes, absolute image extents, relative frame widths, etc... I also advise to start using the new StartupInfo files, which allow you to specify device settings (and other attributes) by using a separate file. Unfortunately E-Prime doesn't offer a global setting to fix aspect ratio errors. Perhaps PST could implement something similar to Presentation (i.e. supporting a user defined coordinate system). best paul 2012/10/4 Speech Perception Research Lab NYU > Thanks so much for the response David! I do use E-Prime 2.0, but not sure > where that dropdown menu is. Where is the option for "Match desktop > resolution" located? And when you say to switch the display to 1366x768, > do you mean within EPrime? Sorry...I'm a bit new to this. > > Thanks! > > On Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:53:14 PM UTC-4, McFarlane, David wrote: >> >> Josh, >> >> What version of E-Prime do you use? If using EP2, please note the >> following statement that I got from PST Web Support when I >> asked: "E-Prime 2.0 allows any resolution supported by your video >> card. The suggestions in the dropdown menus do use typical 4:3 >> values, but you can type in any other value you want to use provided >> they are supported by your video card." As far as I can tell, this >> feature has still not been publicly documented. >> >> So, try setting your Display resolution to 1366x768, ignoring the >> dropdown suggestions. E-Prime should properly fill the screen and >> use properly square-shaped pixels. Or just try using "Match desktop >> resolution at runtime" = Yes, which in this case should achive the same >> effect. >> >> Hope that helps. >> >> ----- >> David McFarlane >> E-Prime training >> online: http://psychology.msu.edu/**Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx >> Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/**EPrimeMaster) >> >> >> /---- >> Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff >> take any and all questions at >> http://support.pstnet.com/e%**2Dprime/support/login.asp, and they >> strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty >> much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of >> it. 3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page >> (http://www.facebook.com/**pages/Psychology-Software-** >> Tools-Inc/241802160683 >> ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their YouTube >> channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/**PSTNET) (no Twitter feed yet, >> though). 4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend >> the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. >> \---- >> >> >> At 10/4/2012 01:32 PM Thursday, Speech Perception Research Lab NYU wrote: >> >Our lab just got a new experimental laptop which has a slightly >> >different screen size than our other 2. We run about 6 different >> >experimental tasks in EPrime on all 3 of these machines, and when we >> >use the new one with the wider monitor, all of the images and text >> >get stretched horizontally. I understand that I can fix the problem >> >by changing the properties for each image on EPrime, but I'm >> >wondering if there is some more general setting that I can change >> >for the one computer so that images won't be stretched and I won't >> >need to change individual settings within each script. Our old >> >laptops use a display setting of 1024x768 pixels, and this new one >> >uses 1366x768. Changing the display settings for the computer >> >itself doesn't fix the problem, so I wonder if I can do it within >> >EPrime. In PowerPoint, for example, when presentations are viewed >> >fullscreen on a widescreen monitor, it fills the sides with blank >> >space so that everything can be done on a standard display size and >> >avoid stretching. I'm wondering if I there is an equivalent setting >> >within EPrime. >> > >> >Any thoughts? >> > >> >Thanks, >> > >> >Josh >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/yLrYq3munc8J. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The images have been put into bitmap and everything is supposed to work as I have gone through the manuals and yet an error response comes up. the error response: Image 21; Run-time Error (Line 1175) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has occurred Marker: 2000 Now, I do not have an image 21 and I have been scanning my programme very carefully for about a week now. I would be grateful if someone could please shed some light upon this issue as I am working on a tight schedule and am unable to get hold of my 'supervisor'. I look forward to your response -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Oct 5 13:59:38 2012 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 09:59:38 -0400 Subject: programme not working In-Reply-To: <9d78ec72-c887-4d69-935f-c9b179f60590@cf4g2000vbb.googlegro ups.com> Message-ID: I just fixed a similar problem here this week, though there's no telling if this will apply to you. In our case, the error message complained about "Image 3", which made no sense. So I looked in the List with the file names. The file name column was not wide enough to show the full file names, so I made that column wider, and voil? -- I saw " ?" at the end of the first file name. Once we corrected that, all worked well. So, make triply sure that *all* the file names in your List are what you think they are. Look out especially for trailing spaces -- e.g., "Image1.bmp " is not the same as "Image1.bmp". When I tried to recreate this error using good-old EP1.2, I found that EP1.2 produced a *much* more informative error message, detailing exactly what file name was causing the trouble. Once again illustrating the maxim, "In this modern world, 'progress' often means 'regress'". ----- David McFarlane E-Prime training online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) /---- Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff take any and all questions at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , and they strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of it. 3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no Twitter feed yet, though). 4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. \---- At 10/5/2012 09:15 AM Friday, pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk wrote: >I am experiencing some problems with my programe that I just cannot >fix. I am reviewing visual spatial search with working memory and am >only using 4-16 images on 80 trials across 3 blocks including a >practice block of 10 trials. The images have been put into bitmap and >everything is supposed to work as I have gone through the manuals and >yet an error response comes up. > >the error response: > >Image 21; >Run-time Error (Line 1175) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has >occurred >Marker: 2000 > > >Now, I do not have an image 21 and I have been scanning my programme >very carefully for about a week now. > >I would be grateful if someone could please shed some light upon this >issue as I am working on a tight schedule and am unable to get hold of >my 'supervisor'. > >I look forward to your response -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Oct 5 14:18:23 2012 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:18:23 -0400 Subject: programme not working In-Reply-To: <506ee7d7.e6c1320a.6230.0ebaSMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: So I went ahead and submitted this as a bug report to PST Web Support at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , you should do the same so that this gets more attention. We will see if PST can "improve" EP2 to return it to the informative error message it produced in EP1. -- David McFarlane At 10/5/2012 09:59 AM Friday, David McFarlane wrote: >I just fixed a similar problem here this week, >though there's no telling if this will apply to >you. In our case, the error message complained >about "Image 3", which made no sense. So I >looked in the List with the file names. The >file name column was not wide enough to show the >full file names, so I made that column wider, >and voil? -- I saw " ?" at the end of the first >file name. Once we corrected that, all worked well. > >So, make triply sure that *all* the file names >in your List are what you think they are. Look >out especially for trailing spaces -- e.g., >"Image1.bmp " is not the same as "Image1.bmp". > > >When I tried to recreate this error using >good-old EP1.2, I found that EP1.2 produced a >*much* more informative error message, detailing >exactly what file name was causing the >trouble. Once again illustrating the maxim, "In >this modern world, 'progress' often means 'regress'". > > >----- >David McFarlane >E-Prime training >online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx >Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) > >/---- >Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) >PST's trained staff take any and all questions >at >http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp >, and they strive to respond to all requests in >24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their >substitute for proper documentation, so make >full use of it. 3) In addition, PST takes >questions at their Facebook page >(http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 >), and offers several instructional videos there >and on their YouTube channel >(http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no >Twitter feed yet, though). 4) If you do get an >answer from PST staff, please extend the >courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. >\---- > > >At 10/5/2012 09:15 AM Friday, pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk wrote: >>I am experiencing some problems with my programe that I just cannot >>fix. I am reviewing visual spatial search with working memory and am >>only using 4-16 images on 80 trials across 3 blocks including a >>practice block of 10 trials. The images have been put into bitmap and >>everything is supposed to work as I have gone through the manuals and >>yet an error response comes up. >> >>the error response: >> >>Image 21; >>Run-time Error (Line 1175) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has >>occurred >>Marker: 2000 >> >> >>Now, I do not have an image 21 and I have been scanning my programme >>very carefully for about a week now. >> >>I would be grateful if someone could please shed some light upon this >>issue as I am working on a tight schedule and am unable to get hold of >>my 'supervisor'. >> >>I look forward to your response > >-- >You received this message because you are >subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. >To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From mandi.millar at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 16:52:52 2012 From: mandi.millar at gmail.com (mmucd) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 09:52:52 -0700 Subject: SR box not working on Mac with Windows Message-ID: Hello! When I try to run my experiment, I get an error message that reads "Unable to open the SRBOX". I am running E-Prime from Bootcamp on a Mac. Although the Mac has Windows, the support people said this could be the problem and that Bootcamp requires a very specific setup in order to properly communicate with external devices. However, they are unable to tell me the very specific setup. Please help! Thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/x2muuCexf34J. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From strohnw at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 22:30:16 2012 From: strohnw at gmail.com (NW Stroh) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:30:16 -0700 Subject: Highlighting Objects Based on Subject Response Message-ID: Hello all, I would like to highlight an object based on the subject's response. The basic flow is a repetition of 1) a Text Frame round counter, 2) a Text Frame presentation of a starting amount, and then 3) a framing prompt on a Slide similar to the one below. The boxes are black and the lines thicker. The subject then makes their choice using 1 or 2. The subject has six seconds to make a choice and the slide stays up the whole duration. Ideally, I would like the box surrounding the selected option to change color while the slide is still displayed but I am open to any and all suggestions. I got one of the boxes to change using an Inline and the Correct State of a Feedback Slide. This ultimately interrupts our timing because the feedback displays after the slide. I tried to borrow some code from an older experiment, but I have not yet gotten it working and the coder is not available to help. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If worse comes to worse, I will use an Echo Display but I think it is a sub-optimal solution. Thank you in advance. Nate -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/QgqKp6v6h_8J. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pfc.groot at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 12:16:55 2012 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 14:16:55 +0200 Subject: Highlighting Objects Based on Subject Response In-Reply-To: <559e58d5-238f-4507-9792-3b84d4b9318f@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Nate, I usually implement object highlighting by changing the objects background colour or bounding box style. E.g. hitObject.BackColor = CColor("silver") hitObject.Draw Where hitObject is the selected slide (sub)object, which can be a SlideText or SlideImage object. You can modify any graphics attribute on the fly using similar code. (Check out the help docs about SlideText and SlideImage object attributes) If you use the keyboard to select "1" or "2", then you can use the names of the objects to get a reference to the selected slide sub object: Dim theState As SlideState Dim hitObject As SlideText 'in case this the selected object is a text object Set theState = theSlide.States(theSlide.ActiveState) Select Case theSlide.RESP case "1" hitObject = theState.Objects("Text1") case "2" hitObject = theState.Objects("Text2") End Select When using the mouse you could use the theState.HitTest(x,y) method to determine which object was selected (if any). The second part of your question is about having a fixed response window of 6 seconds, while updating the slide objects at the same time. There are several way's to implement this, and I think a simple while-loop that polls the isPending() method is the easiest: http://www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=3026 Cheers Paul 2012/10/6 NW Stroh > Hello all, > > I would like to highlight an object based on the subject's response. The > basic flow is a repetition of 1) a Text Frame round counter, 2) a Text > Frame presentation of a starting amount, and then 3) a framing prompt on a > Slide similar to the one below. The boxes are black and the lines > thicker. The subject then makes their choice using 1 or 2. The subject > has six seconds to make a choice and the slide stays up the whole duration. > Ideally, I would like the box surrounding the selected option to change > color while the slide is still displayed but I am open to any and all > suggestions. > > I got one of the boxes to change using an Inline and the Correct State of > a Feedback Slide. This ultimately interrupts our timing because the > feedback displays after the slide. I tried to borrow some code from an > older experiment, but I have not yet gotten it working and the coder is not > available to help. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If worse comes > to worse, I will use an Echo Display but I think it is a sub-optimal > solution. Thank you in advance. > > Nate > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/QgqKp6v6h_8J. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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From joyce.humphries1 at googlemail.com Tue Oct 9 09:08:33 2012 From: joyce.humphries1 at googlemail.com (Joyce Humphries) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:08:33 +0100 Subject: PscyhoPy as alternative to E-Prime? In-Reply-To: <507315c2.e229320a.3ad1.77c1SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi, I went to an introductory course for this at Nottingham Trent a while ago. It is quite similar to E-prime in a lot of ways, but appears to be much easier to use; simply take a while for you to find your way around. I have only used it for very basic experiments, but from the training session it is very user friendly, with the bonus of being free. Not sure if this has helped any. J On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:04 PM, David McFarlane wrote: > Does anybody have any experience with PsychoPy (http://psychopy.org/ ) as > an alternative to E-Prime, or just have any thoughts on this? > > Thanks, > -- David McFarlane > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe@** > googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My images are fine so I do not know where the problem could lie. > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:18:23 -0400 > To: e-prime at googlegroups.com > From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu > Subject: Re: programme not working > > So I went ahead and submitted this as a bug > report to PST Web Support at > http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp > , you should do the same so that this gets more > attention. We will see if PST can "improve" EP2 > to return it to the informative error message it produced in EP1. > > -- David McFarlane > > > At 10/5/2012 09:59 AM Friday, David McFarlane wrote: > >I just fixed a similar problem here this week, > >though there's no telling if this will apply to > >you. In our case, the error message complained > >about "Image 3", which made no sense. So I > >looked in the List with the file names. The > >file name column was not wide enough to show the > >full file names, so I made that column wider, > >and voil? -- I saw " ?" at the end of the first > >file name. Once we corrected that, all worked well. > > > >So, make triply sure that *all* the file names > >in your List are what you think they are. Look > >out especially for trailing spaces -- e.g., > >"Image1.bmp " is not the same as "Image1.bmp". > > > > > >When I tried to recreate this error using > >good-old EP1.2, I found that EP1.2 produced a > >*much* more informative error message, detailing > >exactly what file name was causing the > >trouble. Once again illustrating the maxim, "In > >this modern world, 'progress' often means 'regress'". > > > > > >----- > >David McFarlane > >E-Prime training > >online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx > >Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) > > > >/---- > >Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) > >PST's trained staff take any and all questions > >at > >http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp > >, and they strive to respond to all requests in > >24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their > >substitute for proper documentation, so make > >full use of it. 3) In addition, PST takes > >questions at their Facebook page > >(http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 > >), and offers several instructional videos there > >and on their YouTube channel > >(http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no > >Twitter feed yet, though). 4) If you do get an > >answer from PST staff, please extend the > >courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. > >\---- > > > > > >At 10/5/2012 09:15 AM Friday, pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk wrote: > >>I am experiencing some problems with my programe that I just cannot > >>fix. I am reviewing visual spatial search with working memory and am > >>only using 4-16 images on 80 trials across 3 blocks including a > >>practice block of 10 trials. The images have been put into bitmap and > >>everything is supposed to work as I have gone through the manuals and > >>yet an error response comes up. > >> > >>the error response: > >> > >>Image 21; > >>Run-time Error (Line 1175) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has > >>occurred > >>Marker: 2000 > >> > >> > >>Now, I do not have an image 21 and I have been scanning my programme > >>very carefully for about a week now. > >> > >>I would be grateful if someone could please shed some light upon this > >>issue as I am working on a tight schedule and am unable to get hold of > >>my 'supervisor'. > >> > >>I look forward to your response > > > >-- > >You received this message because you are > >subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > >To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Tue Oct 9 14:39:44 2012 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:39:44 -0400 Subject: programme not working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Did you submit your problem to PST Web Support (http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp )? They should take care of this. Then please post back with their solution. Thanks. And while waiting for their response, try the following: Make a very simple E-Prime program that does nothing but display your image files, one at a time, in sequential order. If that fails, then it might indicate some incompatibility between your particular image files and E-Prime; if it succeeds, then the problem lies in your particular experiment program. Good luck! -- David McFarlane At 10/9/2012 09:39 AM Tuesday, Gulshan Tahir wrote: >Hi David > >I have checked all files and they are lablled in >the correct manner. The error is still showing >up and I have even changed that specific image and yet the error remains. > >I do not know what to do as I created a new >programme and yet the same error display showed >up. My images are fine so I do not know where the problem could lie. > > > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:18:23 -0400 > > To: e-prime at googlegroups.com > > From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu > > Subject: Re: programme not working > > > > So I went ahead and submitted this as a bug > > report to PST Web Support at > > http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp > > , you should do the same so that this gets more > > attention. We will see if PST can "improve" EP2 > > to return it to the informative error message it produced in EP1. > > > > -- David McFarlane > > > > > > At 10/5/2012 09:59 AM Friday, David McFarlane wrote: > > >I just fixed a similar problem here this week, > > >though there's no telling if this will apply to > > >you. In our case, the error message complained > > >about "Image 3", which made no sense. So I > > >looked in the List with the file names. The > > >file name column was not wide enough to show the > > >full file names, so I made that column wider, > > >and voil? -- I saw " ?" at the end of the first > > >file name. Once we corrected that, all worked well. > > > > > >So, make triply sure that *all* the file names > > >in your List are what you think they are. Look > > >out especially for trailing spaces -- e.g., > > >"Image1.bmp " is not the same as "Image1.bmp". > > > > > > > > >When I tried to recreate this error using > > >good-old EP1.2, I found that EP1.2 produced a > > >*much* more informative error message, detailing > > >exactly what file name was causing the > > >trouble. Once again illustrating the maxim, "In > > >this modern world, 'progress' often means 'regress'". > > > > > > > > >----- > > >David McFarlane > > >E-Prime training > > >online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx > > >Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) > > > > > >/---- > > >Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) > > >PST's trained staff take any and all questions > > >at > > >http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp > > >, and they strive to respond to all requests in > > >24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their > > >substitute for proper documentation, so make > > >full use of it. 3) In addition, PST takes > > >questions at their Facebook page > > >(http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 > > >), and offers several instructional videos there > > >and on their YouTube channel > > >(http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no > > >Twitter feed yet, though). 4) If you do get an > > >answer from PST staff, please extend the > > >courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. > > >\---- > > > > > > > > >At 10/5/2012 09:15 AM Friday, pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk wrote: > > >>I am experiencing some problems with my programe that I just cannot > > >>fix. I am reviewing visual spatial search with working memory and am > > >>only using 4-16 images on 80 trials across 3 blocks including a > > >>practice block of 10 trials. The images have been put into bitmap and > > >>everything is supposed to work as I have gone through the manuals and > > >>yet an error response comes up. > > >> > > >>the error response: > > >> > > >>Image 21; > > >>Run-time Error (Line 1175) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has > > >>occurred > > >>Marker: 2000 > > >> > > >> > > >>Now, I do not have an image 21 and I have been scanning my programme > > >>very carefully for about a week now. > > >> > > >>I would be grateful if someone could please shed some light upon this > > >>issue as I am working on a tight schedule and am unable to get hold of > > >>my 'supervisor'. > > >> > > >>I look forward to your response > > > > > >-- > > >You received this message because you are > > >subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > > >To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are > subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > >-- >You received this message because you are >subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. >To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit >https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From bmailings at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 14:40:56 2012 From: bmailings at gmail.com (neuro2) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 07:40:56 -0700 Subject: PscyhoPy as alternative to E-Prime? In-Reply-To: <507315c2.e229320a.3ad1.77c1SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: We've found that students have had some difficulty with it. The "Builder" is not very sophisticated (compared to E-Prime) and there is still a lot that needs to be done in script which most of our students have a hard time dealing with. And like most scripting based systems it works great if you have a small stimuli set and a simple design but once you start building experiments with multiple blocks of stimuli and more complex designs (e.g. training studies) the scripts just become massive and difficult to change. We've stuck with E-Prime and some students have started using another program called Paradigm which seems to be a nice compromise between the two (because it uses Python as a built-in scripting language) and has a better experiment designer. On Monday, October 8, 2012 1:04:55 PM UTC-5, McFarlane, David wrote: > > Does anybody have any experience with PsychoPy (http://psychopy.org/ > ) as an alternative to E-Prime, or just have any thoughts on this? > > Thanks, > -- David McFarlane > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/isATyct7wO0J. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sibelozer.ege at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 20:14:52 2012 From: sibelozer.ege at gmail.com (Sibel Ozer) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:14:52 +0300 Subject: PscyhoPy as alternative to E-Prime? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, Is Paradigm also suitable with EEG experiments? On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:40 PM, neuro2 wrote: > > We've found that students have had some difficulty with it. The "Builder" > is not very sophisticated (compared to E-Prime) and there > is still a lot that needs to be done in script which most of our students > have a hard time dealing with. And like most scripting based systems it > works great if you have a small stimuli set and a simple design but once > you start building experiments with multiple blocks of stimuli and more > complex designs (e.g. training studies) the scripts just become massive and > difficult to change. We've stuck with E-Prime and some students have > started using another program called Paradigm which seems to be a nice > compromise between the two (because it uses Python as a built-in scripting > language) and has a better experiment designer. > > > > On Monday, October 8, 2012 1:04:55 PM UTC-5, McFarlane, David wrote: >> >> Does anybody have any experience with PsychoPy (http://psychopy.org/ >> ) as an alternative to E-Prime, or just have any thoughts on this? >> >> Thanks, >> -- David McFarlane >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/isATyct7wO0J. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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It's a hard to find website unfortunately... here's the link: http://www.paradigmexperiments.com On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 3:14:56 PM UTC-5, Sibel wrote: > > Hi, > Is Paradigm also suitable with EEG experiments? > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:40 PM, neuro2 >wrote: > >> >> We've found that students have had some difficulty with it. The "Builder" >> is not very sophisticated (compared to E-Prime) and there >> is still a lot that needs to be done in script which most of our students >> have a hard time dealing with. And like most scripting based systems it >> works great if you have a small stimuli set and a simple design but once >> you start building experiments with multiple blocks of stimuli and more >> complex designs (e.g. training studies) the scripts just become massive and >> difficult to change. We've stuck with E-Prime and some students have >> started using another program called Paradigm which seems to be a nice >> compromise between the two (because it uses Python as a built-in scripting >> language) and has a better experiment designer. >> >> >> >> On Monday, October 8, 2012 1:04:55 PM UTC-5, McFarlane, David wrote: >>> >>> Does anybody have any experience with PsychoPy (http://psychopy.org/ >>> ) as an alternative to E-Prime, or just have any thoughts on this? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -- David McFarlane >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/isATyct7wO0J. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/beMKU-_3tOsJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspape at cognitology.eu Wed Oct 10 12:40:56 2012 From: mspape at cognitology.eu (Michiel Sovijarvi-Spape) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:40:56 +0300 Subject: PscyhoPy as alternative to E-Prime? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, My 2p: PsychoPy is extremely popular around Nottingham, but then again, the main developer of the software, Jonathan Peirce, does work there (at Nottingham Uni, School of Psychology, where I did a postdoc, not Trent, but I suppose the influence spreads). He is quite approachable, so if you want to check it out, David, I think you?d best either ask him (or the community) or install the software yourself, because I can only give you my few impressions: * It is pretty good, and they are making the visual drag-and-drop interface better. The coder is aware of E-Prime and how difficult students can find it, and has made sure that a lot of it is quite intuitive: loops (re-running the same trial procedure), for example, are displayed as loops (if I remember correctly). * Somebody mentioned python and paradigm: psychopy is built on top of psychopy and the UI just generates python code. So yes, you can do ?scripting? (urgh), in python. Personally I really dislike Python and felt this was the most annoying problem of PsychoPy. I am quite certain this is just me being lazy: I?d sooner learn more C, C++, C#, basic, java, etc, than learn yet another language? Finnish is difficult enough for now. * PsychoPy has really cool stimulus features that are both part of Python (better drawing classes than ebasic) and possibly because of Jonathan?s interests in psychophysics. Want to display a gabor stimulus in a fine lines of code? You can! Want to make it rotate? Right-on! ?okay, I admit I seldom want to do that sort of thing, but I?ve come to appreciate that some people like it. * I think E-Prime really shines in doing RT experiments, priming experiments with fantastically accurate timing. PST seems also really fond of that sort of thing, so I?m suspecting PsychoPy isn?t as well-tested. You can and should test that, though :) Hope that helps! Michiel From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joyce Humphries Sent: 09 October 2012 12:09 To: e-prime at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: PscyhoPy as alternative to E-Prime? Hi, I went to an introductory course for this at Nottingham Trent a while ago. It is quite similar to E-prime in a lot of ways, but appears to be much easier to use; simply take a while for you to find your way around. I have only used it for very basic experiments, but from the training session it is very user friendly, with the bonus of being free. Not sure if this has helped any. J On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:04 PM, David McFarlane > wrote: Does anybody have any experience with PsychoPy (http://psychopy.org/ ) as an alternative to E-Prime, or just have any thoughts on this? Thanks, -- David McFarlane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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I remember physiological experiments have been done with psychopy as well, in any case. Not here to defend an old colleague?s software ? I?ve always been The Go-To E-Prime person :). Then again, I bet so is David: what?s happening, getting finally fed up with E-Prime? Cheers, Michiel From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of neuro2 Sent: 10 October 2012 03:20 To: e-prime at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: PscyhoPy as alternative to E-Prime? I believe they have an add-on package that allows you to send triggers to EEG systems. I know we've had no problems with timing so I think it would be well suited to EEG. It's a hard to find website unfortunately... here's the link: http://www.paradigmexperiments.com On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 3:14:56 PM UTC-5, Sibel wrote: Hi, Is Paradigm also suitable with EEG experiments? On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:40 PM, neuro2 > wrote: We've found that students have had some difficulty with it. The "Builder" is not very sophisticated (compared to E-Prime) and there is still a lot that needs to be done in script which most of our students have a hard time dealing with. And like most scripting based systems it works great if you have a small stimuli set and a simple design but once you start building experiments with multiple blocks of stimuli and more complex designs (e.g. training studies) the scripts just become massive and difficult to change. We've stuck with E-Prime and some students have started using another program called Paradigm which seems to be a nice compromise between the two (because it uses Python as a built-in scripting language) and has a better experiment designer. On Monday, October 8, 2012 1:04:55 PM UTC-5, McFarlane, David wrote: Does anybody have any experience with PsychoPy (http://psychopy.org/ ) as an alternative to E-Prime, or just have any thoughts on this? Thanks, -- David McFarlane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/isATyct7wO0J. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/beMKU-_3tOsJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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The screen which follows is my stimulus screen where there should be 1 image that should be shown that was present in the previous screen in either the same or different position. Also within the stimulus screen the participants can respond with S (same) or D (different). I am having problems with the stimulus screen as the images either all show up or 1 shows up that I would manually put in. 1 image does not show up on its own in the position it was in within the previous screen either in a random position or in the same position. This has put a halt in my experiment and I would like your help to solve this problem. I would like to thank you in advance for your time and comment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From jacanterbury at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 21:13:29 2012 From: jacanterbury at gmail.com (JACanterbury) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:13:29 -0700 Subject: PscyhoPy as alternative to E-Prime? In-Reply-To: <507315c2.e229320a.3ad1.77c1SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: I'm about to try PsychoPy out with a simple Sustained Attention to Response *Test* (*SART*) experiment. I'm hoping it will be successful because the robustness of using Python is attractive (esp compared with ebasic) and also the fact that its free (esp for creating scripts) and also that its multi platform. I've not looked into support for using with eeg & eye trackers though - anyone know whether any are supported? John Experimental Office, Psychology, University of Kent, UK On Monday, October 8, 2012 7:04:55 PM UTC+1, McFarlane, David wrote: > > Does anybody have any experience with PsychoPy (http://psychopy.org/ > ) as an alternative to E-Prime, or just have any thoughts on this? > > Thanks, > -- David McFarlane > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/r-5gV05dofUJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am having problems with the stimulusscreen as the images either all show up or 1 shows up that I wouldmanually put in. 1 image does not show up on its own in the positionit was in within the previous screen either in a random position or inthe same position. This has put a halt in my experiment and I would like your help to solve this problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From cox.karin.m at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 18:14:48 2012 From: cox.karin.m at gmail.com (kc) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:14:48 -0700 Subject: apply bold format selectively within TextDisplay? Message-ID: Out of curiosity, I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to selectively set as "bold" only part of the text within a TextDisplay object. My best guess is that this is impossible, but I don't know enough to rule out the possibility that some kind of special character or code could do this (for example, something analogous to the newline character '\n'). I am aware that a similar goal could be accomplished using a Slide object, so this is really just a question of how much one can push the capabilities of TextDisplay Objects. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/_ShM8UhzwbMJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Tue Oct 16 19:42:53 2012 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:42:53 -0400 Subject: apply bold format selectively within TextDisplay? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Correct on all counts. TextDisplay applies the same text characteristics to all the text, no way around that. And as you said, one could work around this to some extent with a Slide, although that would not automatically adjust for text that may appear in different places for different sentences. For the ultimate in control, you would have to go to Canvas.Text and associated methods (see that topic in the E-Basic Help facility), I did that for one project. ----- David McFarlane E-Prime training online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) At 10/16/2012 02:14 PM Tuesday, kc wrote: >Out of curiosity, I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to >selectively set as "bold" only part of the text within a TextDisplay >object. My best guess is that this is impossible, but I don't know >enough to rule out the possibility that some kind of special >character or code could do this (for example, something analogous to >the newline character '\n'). > >I am aware that a similar goal could be accomplished using a Slide >object, so this is really just a question of how much one can push >the capabilities of TextDisplay Objects. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From vaidyamukesh5 at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 05:25:07 2012 From: vaidyamukesh5 at gmail.com (Mukesh Vaidya) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:55:07 +0530 Subject: Probe.OnsetTime Message-ID: Hi All, What is the meaning of this column in EDAT file. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vaidyamukesh5 at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 06:13:01 2012 From: vaidyamukesh5 at gmail.com (Mukesh Vaidya) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:13:01 -0700 Subject: Probe.OnsetTime In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wednesday, 17 October 2012 10:55:22 UTC+5:30, Mukesh Vaidya wrote: > > Hi All, > What is the meaning of this column in EDAT file > i.e Probe.OnsetTime > > Thanks > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/B0Nwj8zOrIwJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk Wed Oct 17 13:21:52 2012 From: pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk (pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 06:21:52 -0700 Subject: Feedback type Message-ID: Hi All I am stuck on how I can randomise feedback type. My experiemnet is going to test positive i.e. well done or negative i.e. try harder, feedback. However this will be randomised across 80 trials across 4 blocks. Is there a way this can be done? As the manuals do not have the answer and my supervisor does not know how to do it. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Wed Oct 17 13:44:24 2012 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:44:24 -0400 Subject: Probe.OnsetTime In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is explained in the manuals that came with E-Prime. (Or at least it was in the original manuals, the latest User's Guide has been substantially revised, not necessarily for the better.) --------------- David McFarlane, Systems Designer Dept. Psychology, Michigan State University mcfarla9 at msu.edu Voice: (517) 353-0799 Fax: (517) 353-1652 Mukesh Vaidya wrote: > What is the meaning of this column in EDAT file. > > Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From cox.karin.m at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 18:23:53 2012 From: cox.karin.m at gmail.com (kc) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:23:53 -0700 Subject: apply bold format selectively within TextDisplay? In-Reply-To: <507db8d1.c557320a.4063.6db1SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: Ah OK. Thanks for the confirmation, good to know I'm not missing something obvious. On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:43:16 PM UTC-4, McFarlane, David wrote: > > Correct on all counts. TextDisplay applies the same text > characteristics to all the text, no way around that. And as you > said, one could work around this to some extent with a Slide, > although that would not automatically adjust for text that may appear > in different places for different sentences. For the ultimate in > control, you would have to go to Canvas.Text and associated methods > (see that topic in the E-Basic Help facility), I did that for one project. > > ----- > David McFarlane > E-Prime training > online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx > Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) > > > At 10/16/2012 02:14 PM Tuesday, kc wrote: > >Out of curiosity, I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to > >selectively set as "bold" only part of the text within a TextDisplay > >object. My best guess is that this is impossible, but I don't know > >enough to rule out the possibility that some kind of special > >character or code could do this (for example, something analogous to > >the newline character '\n'). > > > >I am aware that a similar goal could be accomplished using a Slide > >object, so this is really just a question of how much one can push > >the capabilities of TextDisplay Objects. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/82dCixDNK4UJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From elinebp at hotmail.com Fri Oct 19 11:27:36 2012 From: elinebp at hotmail.com (Eline Borch Petersen) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 04:27:36 -0700 Subject: Feedback type In-Reply-To: <70447792-85e5-4c54-be58-f9b4efcd6100@h16g2000vby.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: I'm not sure I understand. You want to randomize the 'feedback' independend of whether people answer correct or not? If this is the case I wouldn't use the feedback-slide, but a regular slide displaying the text ('try harder' or 'well sone') which you specify in your TrialList. Does it make sense? Eline -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/LRqr3PX6pyIJ. 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Another way is to all relevant information for each trial into a .txt file (reaction time, which answer is given, what the correct answer is, what answering possibilities they had ect.). Then you have all the information saved for analysis in another program. Hope it helpes Eline -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/8RCVvJFKnGwJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From baltimore.ben at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 13:33:32 2012 From: baltimore.ben at gmail.com (ben robinson) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:33:32 -0400 Subject: Feedback type In-Reply-To: <70447792-85e5-4c54-be58-f9b4efcd6100@h16g2000vby.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: First, are you able to collect responses and score them as correct or incorrect (ACC=1 or ACC=0 according to the object collecting your responses)? If so, you are well on your way. Create a FeedbackDisplay object. Set the Input Object Name to be the object collecting your responses. This way, if the object collecting your responses considers the response correct (ACC=1) it will show the appropriate "well done!" feedback, and vice versa. Next, on your FeedbackDisplay object's Correct tab delete all the default text and type instead, [CorrectFeedback]. On your Incorrect tab do the same, typing [IncorrectFeedback]. Then open the List which runs your trial. Under the Nested column create two new lists: CorrectFeedbackList and IncorrectFeedbackList. Make sure both these lists are on each row in the Nested column so that they will be accessible on every trial. Now open your newly created and nested, CorrectFeedbackList. Set it to Random selection. Add a column or Attribute called CorrectFeedback. Write all your various correct feedback messages, one on each row. For instance "Well done!" on Row1, and "Keep up the good work!" on Row2, etc.. Now do the same with your IncorrectFeedbackList, adding a column called IncorrectFeedback, and filling each row with an appropriate feedback message. That should do it. Ben On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:21 AM, pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk wrote: > Hi All > > I am stuck on how I can randomise feedback type. My experiemnet is > going to test positive i.e. well done or negative i.e. try harder, > feedback. However this will be randomised across 80 trials across 4 > blocks. Is there a way this can be done? As the manuals do not have > the answer and my supervisor does not know how to do it. > > Thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Oct 19 16:22:36 2012 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:22:36 -0400 Subject: Probe.OnsetTime In-Reply-To: <507EB638.3040803@msu.edu> Message-ID: I should also mention the explanation of E-Prime Time Audit measures posted at https://groups.google.com/d/topic/e-prime/OeiZ00V9SRc/discussion . ----- David McFarlane E-Prime training online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) At 10/17/2012 09:44 AM Wednesday, David McFarlane wrote: >This is explained in the manuals that came with E-Prime. (Or at >least it was in the original manuals, the latest User's Guide has >been substantially revised, not necessarily for the better.) > >--------------- >David McFarlane > > >Mukesh Vaidya wrote: >> What is the meaning of this column in EDAT file. >>Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From derekins at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 18:52:54 2012 From: derekins at gmail.com (Derek Stiles) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:52:54 -0700 Subject: Show a slide every fourth trial Message-ID: I am very naive at coding. I want to have a slide displayed after every 4th trial. This is as far as I've gotten: If Lipreading.Cycle % 3 = 0 Then How would I tell it to display Slide4? Also, is there any kind of coding manual for E-Prime? Thanks, Derek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. 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I normally don't like using goto-statements, but the advantage in this case is that the Slide icon will remain visible on the procedure. Another advantage is that you don't have to 'discover' the required code to run and display the slide. best paul 2012/10/19 Derek Stiles > I am very naive at coding. I want to have a slide displayed after every > 4th trial. > > This is as far as I've gotten: > > If Lipreading.Cycle % 3 = 0 Then > > > How would I tell it to display Slide4? > > Also, is there any kind of coding manual for E-Prime? > > Thanks, > > Derek > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/9OHYtiep5yEJ. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Fri Oct 19 21:17:01 2012 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:17:01 -0400 Subject: programme not working In-Reply-To: <506eec3b.e229320a.3ad1.0f82SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> Message-ID: PST Web Support confirms this as a bug in EP2.0.10.242, and it will be fixed in a future version of EP2. -- David McFarlane At 10/5/2012 10:18 AM Friday, you wrote: >So I went ahead and submitted this as a bug >report to PST Web Support at >http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp >, you should do the same so that this gets more >attention. We will see if PST can "improve" EP2 >to return it to the informative error message it produced in EP1. > >-- David McFarlane > > >At 10/5/2012 09:59 AM Friday, David McFarlane wrote: >>I just fixed a similar problem here this week, >>though there's no telling if this will apply to >>you. In our case, the error message complained >>about "Image 3", which made no sense. So I >>looked in the List with the file names. The >>file name column was not wide enough to show >>the full file names, so I made that column >>wider, and voil? -- I saw " ?" at the end of >>the first file name. Once we corrected that, all worked well. >> >>So, make triply sure that *all* the file names >>in your List are what you think they are. Look >>out especially for trailing spaces -- e.g., >>"Image1.bmp " is not the same as "Image1.bmp". >> >> >>When I tried to recreate this error using >>good-old EP1.2, I found that EP1.2 produced a >>*much* more informative error message, >>detailing exactly what file name was causing >>the trouble. Once again illustrating the >>maxim, "In this modern world, 'progress' often means 'regress'". >> >> >>----- >>David McFarlane >>E-Prime training >>online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx >>Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) >> >>/---- >>Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) >>PST's trained staff take any and all questions >>at >>http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp >>, and they strive to respond to all requests in >>24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their >>substitute for proper documentation, so make >>full use of it. 3) In addition, PST takes >>questions at their Facebook page >>(http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 >>), and offers several instructional videos >>there and on their YouTube channel >>(http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no >>Twitter feed yet, though). 4) If you do get an >>answer from PST staff, please extend the >>courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. >>\---- >> >> >>At 10/5/2012 09:15 AM Friday, pure-n-true at hotmail.co.uk wrote: >>>I am experiencing some problems with my programe that I just cannot >>>fix. I am reviewing visual spatial search with working memory and am >>>only using 4-16 images on 80 trials across 3 blocks including a >>>practice block of 10 trials. The images have been put into bitmap and >>>everything is supposed to work as I have gone through the manuals and >>>yet an error response comes up. >>> >>>the error response: >>> >>>Image 21; >>>Run-time Error (Line 1175) 11041: ImageDisplay Internal Error has >>>occurred >>>Marker: 2000 >>> >>> >>>Now, I do not have an image 21 and I have been scanning my programme >>>very carefully for about a week now. >>> >>>I would be grateful if someone could please shed some light upon this >>>issue as I am working on a tight schedule and am unable to get hold of >>>my 'supervisor'. >>> >>>I look forward to your response >> >>-- >>You received this message because you are >>subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. >>To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. >>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >-- >You received this message because you are >subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. >To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From carlitosia at gmail.com Sun Oct 21 22:28:44 2012 From: carlitosia at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Carlos_Gonz=C3=A1lez?=) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:28:44 -0700 Subject: Analyzing wrong answers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks a lot Eline! I've already managed to find a solution, very similar to your first advice! El viernes, 19 de octubre de 2012 13:44:06 UTC+2, Eline Borch Petersen escribi?: > > Without knowing any details about your experiment I'd recommend one of two > ways: > > If you are only interested in havin the result given to you be E-Prime, > you can define a global variable in your main script (e.g. wrongAnswer1, > wrongAnswer2 ect). Initiate the variables in the beginning of you > experiment using an InLine. After each trial, use an InLine to detect which > anser is given and correct the according value ( wrongAnswer1 = > wrongAnswer+1). In the end of your experiment you can calculate the total > number og incorrect answers, the distribution across wrong answers ect. > > Another way is to all relevant information for each trial into a .txt file > (reaction time, which answer is given, what the correct answer is, what > answering possibilities they had ect.). Then you have all the information > saved for analysis in another program. > > Hope it helpes > > Eline > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/4HOIm7tRt5IJ. 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All work fine except that when starting the actual experiment, the first cycle of the TypeChoice list quits after the first sample, and then for the next cycles it runs all the three samples as set in the reset/exit window. I encounter the same problem even if I don`t run the staircase procedure, just start from the experiment, and then run it again using the go to label. So the procedure is ok if I run it for the first time, but when I start again after the goto label, the first cycle is terminated always too early. Hope this is clear, and someone could help me finding (the problem and) the solution. Thanks in advance, Marianna -- Marianna Boros fridaferi at gmail.com +48886648981 +36205148816 -- Marianna Boros fridaferi at gmail.com +48886648981 +36205148816 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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So far I have already gone in and allowed both Key Presses and Releases. My issue is actually how to get the program to recognize the release of the key and start recording the time, so I decided to use the Clock.Read function, but I'm not sure exactly how to implement it. Any assistance with this would be TRULY appreciated. Here is a bit of the code I have come up with, but I know that I am probably nowhere near where I need to be: Dim kbState As Integer Do If Keyboard.GetKeyState("u") = ebStatePress And _ Keyboard.GetKeyState("o") = ebStatePress Then If kbState = Keyboard.GetKeyState ("{END}")= 0 Then Clock.Read ElseIf kbState = Keyboard.GetKeyState ("{TAB}") = 1 Then Clock.Read - Stimulus.OnsetTime -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. 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That might get you most of the way, and if needed you could supplement this with some simple computations in inline code. ----- David McFarlane E-Prime training online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) /---- Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff take any and all questions at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , and they strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of it. 3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683 ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ) (no Twitter feed yet, though). 4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. \---- At 10/30/2012 04:08 PM Tuesday, Courtney Griffin wrote: >basically I want it to go something like this: > >at stimulus display, read the clock and get the time (will name this >variable T1) >after key release, read the clock and get that time (will name this >variable T2) >at key press (final response), read the clock and get that time >(will name variable T3) > >RT (reaction time) = T2-T1 >MT (movement time) = T3-T1 > > >On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:26:31 PM UTC-4, Courtney Griffin wrote: >Hello all, > >I am programming my first experiment with E-Prime and have run into >some issues I was hoping that someone might be able to help with. >For my experiment I will be having subjects simultaneously hold down >two keys (u and o), a stimulus is presented and they are to respond >to it by releasing one of the two keys and making a movement to >another to respond ({TAB} or {END}). Additionally, I would also like >to record movement time (time from release of key to response) and >reaction time (time of release of one of the initial keys). So far I >have already gone in and allowed both Key Presses and Releases. My >issue is actually how to get the program to recognize the release of >the key and start recording the time, so I decided to use the >Clock.Read function, but I'm not sure exactly how to implement it. >Any assistance with this would be TRULY appreciated. Here is a bit >of the code I have come up with, but I know that I am probably >nowhere near where I need to be: > >Dim kbState As Integer > >Do > >If Keyboard.GetKeyState("u") = ebStatePress And _ >Keyboard.GetKeyState("o") = ebStatePress Then > >If kbState = Keyboard.GetKeyState ("{END}")= 0 Then >Clock.Read > >ElseIf kbState = Keyboard.GetKeyState ("{TAB}") = 1 Then >Clock.Read - Stimulus.OnsetTime -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From ianajcxcx at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 20:08:41 2012 From: ianajcxcx at gmail.com (Courtney Griffin) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:08:41 -0700 Subject: key press/release & RT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: basically I want it to go something like this: at stimulus display, read the clock and get the time (will name this variable T1) after key release, read the clock and get that time (will name this variable T2) at key press (final response), read the clock and get that time (will name variable T3) RT (reaction time) = T2-T1 MT (movement time) = T3-T1 On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:26:31 PM UTC-4, Courtney Griffin wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am programming my first experiment with E-Prime and have run into some > issues I was hoping that someone might be able to help with. For my > experiment I will be having subjects simultaneously hold down two keys (u > and o), a stimulus is presented and they are to respond to it by releasing > one of the two keys and making a movement to another to respond ({TAB} or > {END}). Additionally, I would also like to record movement time (time from > release of key to response) and reaction time (time of release of one of > the initial keys). So far I have already gone in and allowed both Key > Presses and Releases. My issue is actually how to get the program to > recognize the release of the key and start recording the time, so I decided > to use the Clock.Read function, but I'm not sure exactly how to implement > it. Any assistance with this would be TRULY appreciated. Here is a bit of > the code I have come up with, but I know that I am probably nowhere near > where I need to be: > > Dim kbState As Integer > > Do > > If Keyboard.GetKeyState("u") = ebStatePress And _ > Keyboard.GetKeyState("o") = ebStatePress Then > > If kbState = Keyboard.GetKeyState ("{END}")= 0 Then > Clock.Read > > ElseIf kbState = Keyboard.GetKeyState ("{TAB}") = 1 Then > Clock.Read - Stimulus.OnsetTime > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/yCf3l99sWIYJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/1EHfBZClU6kJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pipgriffiths86 at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 23:46:48 2012 From: pipgriffiths86 at gmail.com (Pip) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 23:46:48 +0000 Subject: Using a joystick as a response and defining correct response. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm not sure that you can do this automatically, but if you code some inline to store the final x co ord of the cursor then you can look at this in the output file and use filters to determine whether the correct answer was given. You can also set up a screen that will respond if the answer was "correct" through using this method. Essentially you set a variable, get EPRime to write the x co ord to that variable and then get a conditional statement to read that file and feedback the necessary response to the participant Hope this helped Pip Sent from my iPhone On 31 Oct 2012, at 21:00, Diana Laura Rosa Leyra wrote: > All, > > We would like to use a joystick as a response device. Our task requires participants to judge whether the hand they see on the screen is a right or left hand. We'd like for them to respond with the joystick. Basically, I am trying to define a correct answer in terms of the position of the joystick at the time of response. Anyone have any ideas on how this would work and if it would work at all? > > I am working with EPrime 2.0 Professional and know that I have to use a bit of code, but am unsure as to where or how to use it. > > Thank you, > Diana > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/1EHfBZClU6kJ. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. 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