clock and echo problem

[Michiel Sovijarvi-Spape]

Hi David,
Slightly off-topic, what do you think of this default? I thought myself it
was rather strange of PST to change, suddenly after all these years (and
dozens of pre-release versions, with none having these defaults AFAIK) to:
1) set pre-release to duration by default, so that inline code after the
object is executed before the end of the object (not very transparent coding
at all - one wouldn't be able to see this from the structure)
2) set textdisplays to 75% by default. I can see how they like to show off a
feature that has been there since forever and can really be extremely useful
and which people often fill in with needless extra slides. But I noticed,
when I last made a presentation about e-prime, that I very often had to say
"oh, yeah, sorry, forgot to turn width to 100%", until I just made an
unreferenced object which I copied whenever I needed a new "blank" display. 
It's almost like Microsoft would suddenly just publish your calendar without
asking to the world (with option somewhere hidden to not do this): a useful
feature, to be sure, one which few people probably use, and maybe not use
for simple reason that it's a bit hidden in the GUI. But to think the
solution is it should be on by default? Then again, maybe they have some
better reason that eludes me?

I hope they can change it back, it's pretty annoying. 

Best,
Michiel



-----Original Message-----
From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David McFarlane
Sent: 06 September 2012 18:54
To: e-prime at googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: clock and echo problem

Jotapan,

Why not just set your desired Duration, set Time Limit to (same as
duration), and then (this is the key!) also set PreRelease to the same value
as Duration?  Starting with 2.0.10.18, EP2 even has a "(same as duration)"
option for PreRelease, and this has become the default.

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David McFarlane
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At 9/4/2012 09:53 PM Tuesday, you wrote:
>I have been trying for some time to add a countdown clock display in 
>my programs that informs the participant on how long he(she) still 
>has to respond in a given task (e.g., during a slide presentation). 
>I have extensivelly looked in the forums for this information. I 
>found a specific post where 2 suggestions are presented (Displaying 
>a countdown timer for participants, originally posted on/ I was able 
>to work around the script /). I could not get the first suggestion 
>to work... I was able to  work around the script provided in the 
>e-prime countdown sample, although it is not perfect; the countdown 
>example deals with seconds and I need minutes. So instead of having 
>"lnCountTime = (lnEndTime - Clock.Read) / 1000", I have lnCountTime 
>= (lnEndTime - Clock.Read) / 60000. Not perfect but ok.
>
>However, I get an echo problem with this. I want the participant to 
>be able to see all the responses he(she) is providing throught the 
>task and them have them disappear when the program moves to the next 
>slide. To get the countdown clock to work I have to set the duration 
>of the slide to 0. If I set the "time limit" to "same as duration" 
>it assumes the 0 duration and so the echo is not displayed 
>anymore... is there a way to add in the inline a command to finish 
>the echo when the time is up?
>
>Simply displaying a clock on the slide for the entire slide 
>presentation would work for me as well (instead of the countdown 
>clock) and could help solve the echo problem. Is there a simple way 
>to get a clock being displayed on a slide?
>
>I really appreciate all the help I can get on this.
>
>Jotapan

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