From mikes22091 at gmail.com Mon Jun 3 13:40:06 2013 From: mikes22091 at gmail.com (mikes22091 at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 06:40:06 -0700 Subject: Random Photos Message-ID: I am designing a study where I need to put faces into a trial list and then randomly present them. I have done some work before with E-Prime and from what I have seen the only way you can randomize is through a Trial list. Therefore, how would I be able to put photos into the program and present them randomly. I've read some pages about nested list but I still can't actually get the photo! Thank you!! -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/bff5a0de-c014-4fc0-9ce3-80ad4a315187%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katrinheimann at gmail.com Mon Jun 3 13:52:08 2013 From: katrinheimann at gmail.com (Katrin) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 06:52:08 -0700 Subject: Space Bar of Keyboard recognized as response though Keyboard is not chosen as response device Message-ID: Dear all, we encounter a strange problem: we created a slide in which responses are aloud only from the button-box. That is, the keyboard is not even chosen as a possible response device. Nevertheless, eprime accepts the spacebar as a possible response and terminates the slide with this response. Any idea why this happens/how to avoid this? Thanks and best Katrin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/111607ba-b5c0-4942-acd0-38857e527ea2%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katrinheimann at gmail.com Mon Jun 3 13:56:46 2013 From: katrinheimann at gmail.com (KatrinH Heimann) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 15:56:46 +0200 Subject: Random Photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Mike, I am sorry, but I don't see your problem. Normally, in a list, you put under a stimulus attribute the name of a photo-file. Thus you create as many lines of the list as you wanna have trials, filling them with the filenames you attend to use. Then you randomize this list. In the trialprocedure in the pictureslide you then just have to refer to this attribute (for example [picture]) (so where you would normally write the name of the file, you now write [picture] and eprime will look in the attribute of the trial it is running right now to determine the filename. This is all very well explained in the Eprime basic help.. Or did I get your question wrongly? Best Katrin 2013/6/3 > I am designing a study where I need to put faces into a trial list and > then randomly present them. I have done some work before with E-Prime and > from what I have seen the only way you can randomize is through a Trial > list. Therefore, how would I be able to put photos into the program and > present them randomly. I've read some pages about nested list but I still > can't actually get the photo! > > Thank you!! > > -Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/bff5a0de-c014-4fc0-9ce3-80ad4a315187%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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I am REALLY confused! Plus, I am running some subjects and I really need that numbers there, so I also have a timing problem... Do you have any idea?? I would be really grateful! Best Regards, Valerio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/e9c5b3ae-e9db-4b4d-afb6-24df414c5c2b%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yuliya.yoncheva at gmail.com Mon Jun 3 23:00:16 2013 From: yuliya.yoncheva at gmail.com (Yuliya Yoncheva) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 16:00:16 -0700 Subject: Creating a drop-down menu with options for subjects' responses? Message-ID: Greetings E-prime experts, I am programming an experiment in E-prime 2.0 Professional, in which the optimal way to collect participants' responses would be to have them select 1 out of 10 options from a drop-down menu. (e.g., a subject needs to choose between "$10 in a week" or "$1 or $2 or $3 ... immediately." It is argued that offering selection from a drop-down menu promotes more careful consideration of each option.) The closest example I found in the E-prime Samples database on pstnet.com was the Visual Analog scale, which would enable on-screen presentation of all options simultaneously (e.g., as 10 individual boxes), and allow the subject to click on the box of their choice. However, my participants have clinical attention deficits, therefore presenting all options at once would be too distracting and is thus not a viable idea. Is there a way to create a drop-down box? If not, what work-around solutions come to mind? One hypothetical idea I have is to create an in-line script pausing E-prime and allowing a switch to MS Excel (where I can create a drop down menu in a file) before returning to E-prime. The duration of such subject-paced pause would be a proxy (albeit very rough) for response latency. I don't know whether it is even feasible. Does anyone have experience with such an approach? Alternatively, could anyone recommend a response collection software that would be better suited for building drop-down menus? Any feedback or help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you kindly, Yuliya Yoncheva PS: So far the experiments I have programmed have focused on millisecond temporal precision on the presentation side (which I know is E-prime's strength), and not flexibility on the response collection interface (which I gather is not an emphasis in this particular software). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/dc11ba10-f239-435c-9518-89bc262e82a6%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikes22091 at gmail.com Tue Jun 4 13:36:50 2013 From: mikes22091 at gmail.com (mikes22091 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 06:36:50 -0700 Subject: Random Photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Katrin, I know how to do all that I guess the only problem I am having is getting to photo in through the file name what should I be looking for to input the file? An address or the name of the file? Thanks so much for the reply! On Monday, June 3, 2013 9:40:06 AM UTC-4, mikes... at gmail.com wrote: > > I am designing a study where I need to put faces into a trial list and > then randomly present them. I have done some work before with E-Prime and > from what I have seen the only way you can randomize is through a Trial > list. Therefore, how would I be able to put photos into the program and > present them randomly. I've read some pages about nested list but I still > can't actually get the photo! > > Thank you!! > > -Mike > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/d094e13a-effd-4c41-ae11-da16cb4529a2%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katrinheimann at gmail.com Tue Jun 4 13:46:26 2013 From: katrinheimann at gmail.com (KatrinH Heimann) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 15:46:26 +0200 Subject: Random Photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Mike, you have to put the filename in the listobject. Then the file should be in the same folder than your experiment :) Cheers Katrin 2013/6/4 > Katrin, > > I know how to do all that I guess the only problem I am having is getting > to photo in through the file name what should I be looking for to input the > file? An address or the name of the file? Thanks so much for the reply! > > > On Monday, June 3, 2013 9:40:06 AM UTC-4, mikes... at gmail.com wrote: >> >> I am designing a study where I need to put faces into a trial list and >> then randomly present them. I have done some work before with E-Prime and >> from what I have seen the only way you can randomize is through a Trial >> list. Therefore, how would I be able to put photos into the program and >> present them randomly. I've read some pages about nested list but I still >> can't actually get the photo! >> >> Thank you!! >> >> -Mike >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/d094e13a-effd-4c41-ae11-da16cb4529a2%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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Subject will have to press a button on a SRbox only to one specific digit (target ) while they don't have to press buttons to other digits. The problem is that the responses are not collected by EP after the duration of 200ms of the stimulus (I would like to allow a time limit of 800ms after the appearence of the target), I tried to extend timeLimit for the SRbox input but the response will not be recorded. The experiment is divided in TrialList (list of digits presented in a random order), TrialProc with: Inline (to randomize the duration of fixation) / Fixation / Stimuli (with 200 of duration and timeLimit to 800 but EP doesn't collect responses after the 200ms of the stimulus). Can you help me? Thank you PM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/e491bda7-75d7-48e4-83bc-c75905202482%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katrinheimann at gmail.com Tue Jun 4 14:00:44 2013 From: katrinheimann at gmail.com (KatrinH Heimann) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:00:44 +0200 Subject: Collect responses after target disappeared...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ciao PierCarlo, Two possibilities come to my mind a) why not just putting another slide of 800 ms length after your stimulus slide. Just a black textslide I mean. Just make this slide also collect responses, but terminate always after 800 ms. This has the disadvantage of course that the trial does not end with the response. But maybe this is not the problem If it is a problem I would make a short movieclip instead of the textslide-stimulus. That would mean filming a digit for the 200 ms (or putting frames of a picture in a movieformat to fill 200 ms, and then add another 800 ms of black in the movie. This movie can act as the stimulus and you can make the slide end with the response of the subject. Was that of any help? Katrin 2013/6/4 Piercarlo Mauri > Hello, > I'm new to this group and also to e-prime software, so please excuse me if > the question will sound simple to you...I tried to find a solution online > without any results... > I'm creating my first experiment in e-prime and will be a continous > performance test (CPT), a series of digits will be presented each one for > 200ms with a variable ISI between 800-2000 ms. Subject will have to press a > button on a SRbox only to one specific digit (target ) while they don't > have to press buttons to other digits. The problem is that the responses > are not collected by EP after the duration of 200ms of the stimulus (I > would like to allow a time limit of 800ms after the appearence of the > target), I tried to extend timeLimit for the SRbox input but the response > will not be recorded. > The experiment is divided in TrialList (list of digits presented in a > random order), TrialProc with: Inline (to randomize the duration of > fixation) / Fixation / Stimuli (with 200 of duration and timeLimit to 800 > but EP doesn't collect responses after the 200ms of the stimulus). Can you > help me? > Thank you > PM > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/e491bda7-75d7-48e4-83bc-c75905202482%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/CACnHcBes2-LaRrTjxuHri%2BxfvC%3DwfXeSOULpmxChUd4rR6gA4w%40mail.gmail.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From piercarlo.mauri at gmail.com Tue Jun 4 14:39:57 2013 From: piercarlo.mauri at gmail.com (Piercarlo Mauri) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 07:39:57 -0700 Subject: Collect responses after target disappeared...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for your reply, I tried to use slide after the target with a duration of 800ms showing a fixation point and I reduced the first fixation to 0-1200, in this way the subject will have 200ms of the stimulus + 800ms of the other slide to respond and it seems to work, but do I have to set time limit in the stimulus slide to 1000ms in order to allow a response in the stimulus slide (200 ms) and also in the next slide (800ms)? Will the reaction time be recorded also if the subject press the button during the stimulus or during the next slide? Il giorno martedì 4 giugno 2013 16:00:44 UTC+2, Katrin ha scritto: > > Ciao PierCarlo, > > Two possibilities come to my mind > a) why not just putting another slide of 800 ms length after your stimulus > slide. Just a black textslide I mean. Just make this slide also collect > responses, but terminate always after 800 ms. This has the disadvantage of > course that the trial does not end with the response. But maybe this is not > the problem > If it is a problem I would make a short movieclip instead of the > textslide-stimulus. That would mean filming a digit for the 200 ms (or > putting frames of a picture in a movieformat to fill 200 ms, and then add > another 800 ms of black in the movie. This movie can act as the stimulus > and you can make the slide end with the response of the subject. Was that > of any help? > Katrin > > > 2013/6/4 Piercarlo Mauri > > >> Hello, >> I'm new to this group and also to e-prime software, so please excuse me >> if the question will sound simple to you...I tried to find a solution >> online without any results... >> I'm creating my first experiment in e-prime and will be a continous >> performance test (CPT), a series of digits will be presented each one for >> 200ms with a variable ISI between 800-2000 ms. Subject will have to press a >> button on a SRbox only to one specific digit (target ) while they don't >> have to press buttons to other digits. The problem is that the responses >> are not collected by EP after the duration of 200ms of the stimulus (I >> would like to allow a time limit of 800ms after the appearence of the >> target), I tried to extend timeLimit for the SRbox input but the response >> will not be recorded. >> The experiment is divided in TrialList (list of digits presented in a >> random order), TrialProc with: Inline (to randomize the duration of >> fixation) / Fixation / Stimuli (with 200 of duration and timeLimit to 800 >> but EP doesn't collect responses after the 200ms of the stimulus). Can you >> help me? >> Thank you >> PM >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com >> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/e491bda7-75d7-48e4-83bc-c75905202482%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/05cf31d9-37a5-4254-9005-96f55851baa2%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pfc.groot at gmail.com Tue Jun 4 16:14:39 2013 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 18:14:39 +0200 Subject: Creating a drop-down menu with options for subjects' responses? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yuliya, Linking another application (like excel) wouldn't be a very reliable method, I'm afraid (not even sure if that would be possible). You could implement such an interface in eprime by using a series of bitmap images that mimic a fancy GUI on subject responses. When a lot of different images are required (because of dynamic content for example) you could also use inline script to generate the screen contents. However, EPrime only offers basic drawing support, so that might suboptimal. I sometimes combine elementary graphics (drawn by inline script) with a fancy bitmap as background image. If you would like to implement mouse-clicks (instead of keyboard presses), you definitively have to deal with inline scripting. (You could have a look at the following example script: http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/84-full-scripts/74-tower-of-hanoi.html) On the other hand: if timing is not extremely critical, you could also use a more GUI-oriented programming environment (such as Visual Basic, or something similar). Best Paul On 4 June 2013 01:00, Yuliya Yoncheva wrote: > Greetings E-prime experts, > > I am programming an experiment in E-prime 2.0 Professional, in which the > optimal way to collect participants' responses would be to have them select > 1 out of 10 options from a drop-down menu. > > (e.g., a subject needs to choose between "$10 in a week" or "$1 or $2 or > $3 ... immediately." It is argued that offering selection from a drop-down > menu promotes more careful consideration of each option.) > > The closest example I found in the E-prime Samples database on pstnet.com was > the Visual Analog scale, which would enable on-screen presentation of all > options simultaneously (e.g., as 10 individual boxes), and allow the > subject to click on the box of their choice. However, my participants have > clinical attention deficits, therefore presenting all options at once would > be too distracting and is thus not a viable idea. > > Is there a way to create a drop-down box? If not, what work-around > solutions come to mind? > > One hypothetical idea I have is to create an in-line script pausing > E-prime and allowing a switch to MS Excel (where I can create a drop down > menu in a file) before returning to E-prime. The duration of such > subject-paced pause would be a proxy (albeit very rough) for response > latency. > > I don't know whether it is even feasible. Does anyone have experience with > such an approach? Alternatively, could anyone recommend a response > collection software that would be better suited for building drop-down > menus? > > Any feedback or help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you kindly, > Yuliya Yoncheva > > PS: So far the experiments I have programmed have focused on millisecond > temporal precision on the presentation side (which I know is E-prime's > strength), and not flexibility on the response collection interface (which > I gather is not an emphasis in this particular software). > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/dc11ba10-f239-435c-9518-89bc262e82a6%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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In case two you would have to add 200 ms to make up for that. Is that clear enough? Best Katrin 2013/6/4 Piercarlo Mauri > Thanks for your reply, > I tried to use slide after the target with a duration of 800ms showing a > fixation point and I reduced the first fixation to 0-1200, in this way the > subject will have 200ms of the stimulus + 800ms of the other slide to > respond and it seems to work, but do I have to set time limit in the > stimulus slide to 1000ms in order to allow a response in the stimulus slide > (200 ms) and also in the next slide (800ms)? Will the reaction time be > recorded also if the subject press the button during the stimulus or during > the next slide? > > > > Il giorno martedì 4 giugno 2013 16:00:44 UTC+2, Katrin ha scritto: >> >> Ciao PierCarlo, >> >> Two possibilities come to my mind >> a) why not just putting another slide of 800 ms length after your >> stimulus slide. Just a black textslide I mean. Just make this slide also >> collect responses, but terminate always after 800 ms. This has the >> disadvantage of course that the trial does not end with the response. But >> maybe this is not the problem >> If it is a problem I would make a short movieclip instead of the >> textslide-stimulus. That would mean filming a digit for the 200 ms (or >> putting frames of a picture in a movieformat to fill 200 ms, and then add >> another 800 ms of black in the movie. This movie can act as the stimulus >> and you can make the slide end with the response of the subject. Was that >> of any help? >> Katrin >> >> >> 2013/6/4 Piercarlo Mauri >> >>> Hello, >>> I'm new to this group and also to e-prime software, so please excuse me >>> if the question will sound simple to you...I tried to find a solution >>> online without any results... >>> I'm creating my first experiment in e-prime and will be a continous >>> performance test (CPT), a series of digits will be presented each one for >>> 200ms with a variable ISI between 800-2000 ms. Subject will have to press a >>> button on a SRbox only to one specific digit (target ) while they don't >>> have to press buttons to other digits. The problem is that the responses >>> are not collected by EP after the duration of 200ms of the stimulus (I >>> would like to allow a time limit of 800ms after the appearence of the >>> target), I tried to extend timeLimit for the SRbox input but the response >>> will not be recorded. >>> The experiment is divided in TrialList (list of digits presented in a >>> random order), TrialProc with: Inline (to randomize the duration of >>> fixation) / Fixation / Stimuli (with 200 of duration and timeLimit to 800 >>> but EP doesn't collect responses after the 200ms of the stimulus). Can you >>> help me? >>> Thank you >>> PM >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "E-Prime" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to e-prime+u...@**googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com. >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** >>> msgid/e-prime/e491bda7-75d7-**48e4-83bc-c75905202482%** >>> 40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/05cf31d9-37a5-4254-9005-96f55851baa2%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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URL: From katrinheimann at gmail.com Tue Jun 4 17:54:30 2013 From: katrinheimann at gmail.com (KatrinH Heimann) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 19:54:30 +0200 Subject: Random Photos In-Reply-To: <8ef4d307-41dd-460e-9e7b-103ba42a7448@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: it is what I wrote in the first mail you just create a new attribute calling it for example pictures then, in each line you write the filename for example pic1.jpg and then you refer to that attribute in the slide showing the picture it is also all explained in the basic eprime help k 2013/6/4 > Katrin, > > If you wouldn't mind could you explain the process of putting them into > listobject? 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To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/CACnHcBeXzawijS95KqXudMQPSFA3OSLP-B6P5mp-%3D0UUvwEiOQ%40mail.gmail.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yuliya.yoncheva at gmail.com Tue Jun 4 18:12:38 2013 From: yuliya.yoncheva at gmail.com (Yuliya Yoncheva) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 11:12:38 -0700 Subject: Creating a drop-down menu with options for subjects' responses? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Paul, Thank you very much for your fast reply and for sharing your in-line scripts implementing The Tower of Hanoi task. This is a very valuable example. Temporal precision is not crucial so mimicking a GUI would sounds like the most reasonable approach using E-prime. Thank you again. Best wishes, Yuliya On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 12:14:39 PM UTC-4, Paul Groot wrote: > > Yuliya, > > Linking another application (like excel) wouldn't be a very reliable > method, I'm afraid (not even sure if that would be possible). > > You could implement such an interface in eprime by using a series of > bitmap images that mimic a fancy GUI on subject responses. When a lot of > different images are required (because of dynamic content for example) you > could also use inline script to generate the screen contents. However, > EPrime only offers basic drawing support, so that might suboptimal. I > sometimes combine elementary graphics (drawn by inline script) with a fancy > bitmap as background image. If you would like to implement mouse-clicks > (instead of keyboard presses), you definitively have to deal with inline > scripting. (You could have a look at the following example script: > http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/84-full-scripts/74-tower-of-hanoi.html) > > On the other hand: if timing is not extremely critical, you could also use > a more GUI-oriented programming environment (such as Visual Basic, or > something similar). > > Best > Paul > > > On 4 June 2013 01:00, Yuliya Yoncheva >wrote: > >> Greetings E-prime experts, >> >> I am programming an experiment in E-prime 2.0 Professional, in which the >> optimal way to collect participants' responses would be to have them select >> 1 out of 10 options from a drop-down menu. >> >> (e.g., a subject needs to choose between "$10 in a week" or "$1 or $2 or >> $3 ... immediately." It is argued that offering selection from a drop-down >> menu promotes more careful consideration of each option.) >> >> The closest example I found in the E-prime Samples database on pstnet.com was >> the Visual Analog scale, which would enable on-screen presentation of all >> options simultaneously (e.g., as 10 individual boxes), and allow the >> subject to click on the box of their choice. However, my participants have >> clinical attention deficits, therefore presenting all options at once would >> be too distracting and is thus not a viable idea. >> >> Is there a way to create a drop-down box? If not, what work-around >> solutions come to mind? >> >> One hypothetical idea I have is to create an in-line script pausing >> E-prime and allowing a switch to MS Excel (where I can create a drop down >> menu in a file) before returning to E-prime. The duration of such >> subject-paced pause would be a proxy (albeit very rough) for response >> latency. >> >> I don't know whether it is even feasible. Does anyone have experience >> with such an approach? Alternatively, could anyone recommend a response >> collection software that would be better suited for building drop-down >> menus? >> >> Any feedback or help would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thank you kindly, >> Yuliya Yoncheva >> >> PS: So far the experiments I have programmed have focused on millisecond >> temporal precision on the presentation side (which I know is E-prime's >> strength), and not flexibility on the response collection interface (which >> I gather is not an emphasis in this particular software). >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com >> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/dc11ba10-f239-435c-9518-89bc262e82a6%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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There are four different conditions: Same object same size (SOSS), same object different size (SODS), different object different size (DODS), and different object same size (DOSS). Also, across these conditions, there are four different objects: A, B, C, and D. For each object category there are 6 exemplars. The paradigm is a simple one-back task indicating if the two objects in the trial are same or not (Fixation --> Object 1 --> Mask --> object 2 --> mask --> response). Each block should contain 24 trials that have equal number of objects varying across the conditions. That is to say that each trial must have all four conditions but use equal amounts of objects within these conditions to fulfill that requirement. The sequence of presentation must all be randomized and counterbalanced. For example, block 1 may have the following sequence depicting different conditions: A (SOSS) C (SODS) D (SOSS) B (DOSS) D (DODS) C (DOSS) B (SODS) A (DODS) There would be three blocks like this one in a given set with randomized stimuli without repeats (total of 24 trials) and four different sets for a complete total of 96 trials. As you can see, each object within its respective condition only occurs once across the blocks. In total there are 2 of each conditions and 2 of each objects but the combination of each occurs only once. When I try to program this in e-prime, I could randomize the selection of each object with their respective conditions and limit it to choosing only 2 samples. However, I cannot ensure that across the 3 blocks the same object from the same condition does not show up. I know there must be someway to accomplish this in e-prime...only if knew :( I hope the above makes sense.... 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URL: From yuliya.yoncheva at gmail.com Tue Jun 4 22:03:08 2013 From: yuliya.yoncheva at gmail.com (Yuliya Yoncheva) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 15:03:08 -0700 Subject: Space Bar of Keyboard recognized as response though Keyboard is not chosen as response device In-Reply-To: <111607ba-b5c0-4942-acd0-38857e527ea2@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Katrin, I currently can't activate SRBOX but was currently playing with device properties so it is fresh in my mind and might potentially be relevant. If I activate "Keyboard" (Slide: Properties) there is an "Advanced" option which let's you select "Collection" where you could specify Response mode - alphanumeric only vs. all, and how Backspace is treated. Perhaps your SRBOX has similar options which could be modified? Cheers, Yuliya On Monday, June 3, 2013 9:52:08 AM UTC-4, Katrin wrote: > > Dear all, > we encounter a strange problem: we created a slide in which responses are > aloud only from the button-box. That is, the keyboard is not even chosen as > a possible response device. Nevertheless, eprime accepts the spacebar as a > possible response and terminates the slide with this response. Any idea why > this happens/how to avoid this? > Thanks and best > Katrin > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/514fb035-1f7e-49a2-b9c3-84674f39ad87%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kelsey.leigh.carlson at gmail.com Wed Jun 5 10:35:54 2013 From: kelsey.leigh.carlson at gmail.com (kelsey.leigh.carlson at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 03:35:54 -0700 Subject: counting response types separately then displaing the counts at the end of each block Message-ID: Hi all, In my experiment I have a condition called "Either" in a list object it is defined as "Cue" and presents an "E" on the screen to the subject. During this condition subjects can press either "n" or "b" on the keyboard. During each block I want to count the number of "n" responses and the number of "b" responses separately, then present the separate counts in a text object at the end of each block. I've pasted in the coding I've done here and hope that it makes some sense, please feel free to ask me questions if it does not. Here I create counting variables "count_n" and "count_b", set them to 0, then set the Attributes "total_n" and "total_b"which are scripted so that during the "Either" condition when "n" is selected "total_n" should reference "count_n" and add one (+1); when"b" is selected "total_b" should reference "count_b" and add one (+1). In the user script: ' Block choice variable Dim count_n As Integer Dim count_b As Integer Dim total_n As Integer Dim total_b As Integer In FirstTrialITI: (bit of Inline script, I believe it repeats after each trial) count_n = 0 count_b = 0 In TMS: (InLine script that runs a block) ' choice_selection count_n = count_n +1 count_b = count_b +1 If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("n"))) Then c.SetAttrib "total_n", count_n End If If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("b"))) Then c.SetAttrib "total_b", count_b End If I can see in the data file it creates columns for "total_b" and "total_n", but it counts them together! total_b total_n 1 NULL NULL 2 3 NULL I also tried this piece of code, but "total_b" and "total_n" were still counted together: If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("n"))) Then c.SetAttrib "total_n", count_n Else If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("b"))) Then c.SetAttrib "total_b", count_b End If End If Furthermore, when I try to present the separate counts in a text object at the end of each block by typing [total_b] and [total_n] Eprime says "no such attribute". I hope this made some sense, but will answer any questions that you may have. Thanks a lot for any help. Best, Kelsey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/dd2080cf-91a7-4c9c-ad4f-9050678d1a48%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kelsey.leigh.carlson at gmail.com Wed Jun 5 13:47:58 2013 From: kelsey.leigh.carlson at gmail.com (kelsey.leigh.carlson at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 06:47:58 -0700 Subject: displaying response count at end of block Message-ID: Hi all, In my experiment there is a condition where the subject can choice between two responses (either "n" or "b" key presses). I want to keep track of how many times the participant selects each key (n or b) and present a total for each key type at the end of each block. I've inserted my code here showing how I am counting response selection. As you can see I am setting two separate attributes: c.SetAttrib "total_b" and c.SetAttrib "total_n". I've tried to reference these attributes later in a Text Object, but E prime says, "no such attribute". ' choice_selection If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("n"))) Then count_n = count_n +1 Else If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("b"))) Then count_b = count_b +1 End If End If If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("n"))) Then c.SetAttrib "total_n", count_n Else If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("b"))) Then c.SetAttrib "total_b", count_b End If End If If there is anything I can clarify please let me know. Thanks for your time and answers. Best, Kelsey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/d793497f-2420-4ba5-ac54-369c056b3680%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. 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Thanks for the time, Dazed & Confused (Diana) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/2f06ccc2-8991-443a-bca2-eb11cc4daac3%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edgarmesquita at hotmail.com Wed Jun 5 16:53:03 2013 From: edgarmesquita at hotmail.com (Edgar Mesquita) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 17:53:03 +0100 Subject: Co-Author partnership - Statistical Analysis Message-ID: Hello, I'd like to offer statistical advise/ analysis to all group members in exchange of paper co-authorship. If some of you are having trouble with statistical analysis, and have interest in this partnership please let me know. Best regards Edgar -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/BAY404-EAS284183513BBBD5D393F0410B99F0%40phx.gbl?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikes22091 at gmail.com Wed Jun 5 17:59:20 2013 From: mikes22091 at gmail.com (mikes22091 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 10:59:20 -0700 Subject: Random Photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you so much for all your help! I figured it all out you were a great help!!! I just have one more question now if I have say 60 pictures appearing randomly and I want a question to appear after each one how would I do that? does it have to do with nesting list? Thank you I promise this is my last question! :) -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/f95306c7-8c76-41ed-89c3-eb3583edb6db%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katrinheimann at gmail.com Wed Jun 5 18:46:31 2013 From: katrinheimann at gmail.com (KatrinH Heimann) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 20:46:31 +0200 Subject: Random Photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ehm, well, just put a textslide after the pictureslide? do you want the question also always to be different? then you have to work with another listattribute and a small inline... best katrin 2013/6/5 > Thank you so much for all your help! I figured it all out you were a great > help!!! I just have one more question now if I have say 60 pictures > appearing randomly and I want a question to appear after each one how would > I do that? does it have to do with nesting list? > > Thank you I promise this is my last question! :) > > > -Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/f95306c7-8c76-41ed-89c3-eb3583edb6db%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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If so it will sample without replacement until it reaches the value specified by ResetList at which point it will start over from the full list. This could produce the problem you describe. On 05/06/2013 17:39, Diana wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a memory task that displays a series of images in different > locations on the screen. The participant is expected to remember the > image and its location, so when the images are pulled randomly from a > nested list, the participant can match the image to the original > location. > > The problem I am encountering involves the random pulling of images to > be matched. I need this to happen without replacement, but even with > the selection order set to 'random', I'm having at least one image > being pulled twice and one image not pulled at all. > > I have no idea how to fix this problem. Is there anyone that can share > some insight? > Thanks for the time, > Dazed & Confused (Diana) > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/2f06ccc2-8991-443a-bca2-eb11cc4daac3%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- David Vinson, Ph.D. ESRC Research Fellow Cognitive, Perceptual and Brain Sciences Research Department University College London 26 Bedford Way, London WC1H 0AP Tel +44 (0)20 7679 5311 (UCL internal ext. 25311) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/51B05133.1030007%40ucl.ac.uk?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From hollysully at gmail.com Thu Jun 6 16:02:08 2013 From: hollysully at gmail.com (free_operant_task) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 09:02:08 -0700 Subject: Response bar updated by multiple presses Message-ID: Hi, I hope someone can help and apologies in advance for my elementary coding skills. I am trying to create a response bar (drawn by the canvas function) that is incrementally filled by each button press (each of the multiple button presses required for an individual trial). I have tried to combine the ScoreBar and MultipleResponseCollection sample scripts from the PST eprime support site. I want the number of presses required to be randomly determined by an attribute called MaxCount (which is set by RewardProb) at the beginning of each trial. Eventually, the duration of each trial will also vary depending on RewardProb (this bit works well in another script I have). I am attaching the script that I have so far. It seems to be partially working. When the number of presses set by the attribute MaxCount is reached, the trial terminates as it should, however, there is a substantial delay before the response bar starts filling. Also, I would like the canvas to be cleared of all images after each trial (because the next thing I am going to work on is making the size of the response bar variable on each trial). But for now, I would greatly appreciate any help with getting a response bar that fills with each press on a single trial and clears after the trial is finished. 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Name: EffortBar_FreeOp_6.6.13.es2 Type: application/octet-stream Size: 69683 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hollysully at gmail.com Thu Jun 6 19:55:42 2013 From: hollysully at gmail.com (free_operant_task) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 12:55:42 -0700 Subject: displaying response count at end of block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Kelsey, Have you defined the attribute globally on the user tab of the generated script? To count across multiple blocks or reference the counter variable at the highest level of the task, you need to define the variable on the user tab of the script. I can send an example scirpt where I have used counter variables like these, if you like. Hope this helps, Holly On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 9:47:58 AM UTC-4, kelsey.lei... at gmail.com wrote: > > Hi all, > In my experiment there is a condition where the subject can choice > between two responses (either "n" or "b" key presses). I want to keep track > of how many times the participant selects each key (n or b) and present a > total for each key type at the end of each block. I've inserted my code > here showing how I am counting response selection. As you can see I am > setting two separate attributes: c.SetAttrib "total_b" and c.SetAttrib > "total_n". I've tried to reference these attributes later in a Text Object, > but E prime says, "no such attribute". > > ' choice_selection > If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("n"))) Then > count_n = count_n +1 > Else If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("b"))) Then > count_b = count_b +1 > End If > End If > > If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("n"))) Then > c.SetAttrib "total_n", count_n > Else If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("b"))) Then > c.SetAttrib "total_b", count_b > End If > End If > > If there is anything I can clarify please let me know. Thanks for your > time and answers. > Best, > Kelsey > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/f0f238de-39a9-49d8-956f-1e5f1a459978%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kelsey.leigh.carlson at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 10:16:33 2013 From: kelsey.leigh.carlson at gmail.com (kelsey.leigh.carlson at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 03:16:33 -0700 Subject: displaying response count at end of block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Holly, Thanks for the question/help. In the user script I've already written: Dim count_n As Integer Dim count_b As Integer Dim total_n As Integer Dim total_b As Integer During an inter trial interval I set these counters to 0 count_n = 0 count_b = 0 Then of course the script I've posted already which runs during the main body of the experiment. In the data file I can read something like this: total_n total_b NULL 1 1 NULL NULL 2 So it is being recorded correctly in the data file. I hope this information makes what I'm trying to do clearer. Best, Kelsey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/3f6ba702-a2af-4cc7-a08a-db567c72f6b2%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From susangc7 at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 11:34:53 2013 From: susangc7 at gmail.com (Susan Campbell) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 04:34:53 -0700 Subject: displaying response count at end of block In-Reply-To: <3f6ba702-a2af-4cc7-a08a-db567c72f6b2@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Kelsey, It sounds like you're running into a common problem people have with E-Prime: understanding the difference between variables and attributes. By defining something in the user script, you're declaring it as a variable, not an attribute. Attributes show up in lists and data files; variables don't. You also seem to have a scope issue on the attribute, which is making things more complicated. What's confusing here is that E-Prime is trying to help you out by creating attributes when you use c.setattrib -- so you now have a total_n attribute as well as a variable, and that's what gets logged in the data file. But that attrbiute only exists in the lowest-level list that's running when E-Prime creates it. I would guess that your attempt to display the counts is outside that list. Alternatively, if you didn't fall into that trap, you're trying to use the variable, which you've actually never assigned a value to. The first thing to try is to create an attribute in the list that's above the one you're setting the value in (the list that's running when you try to display the value at the end), and then let it set the value in that list. Or you could just keep track of those totals in the global variable you already have (if you don't care about logging as you go) and then log them in an inline after the list. HTH, Susan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/23616f29-c2cc-4093-811d-125c12e74f41%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From pfc.groot at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 16:41:33 2013 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 18:41:33 +0200 Subject: Response bar updated by multiple presses In-Reply-To: <470f1db1-0c3a-4542-9c9c-1fd114c0a0cc@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: hi, It seems that you now have a stimulus screen (with a static contents) that stays on screen until all presses are collected. Then, when the Stimulus object finishes, you start an inline script that processes all past button presses. If you would like to update the bar immediately after each button press, you need a different construct. I think it would be very similar to the code I used in my VAS example script: http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/83-example-scripts/80-visual-analogue-scale-example-for-e-prime.html (look at the DragScale function). Also note that you should set the duration of the Stimulus screen to zero, or set the prerelease to same as duration. Best Paul On 6 June 2013 18:02, free_operant_task wrote: > Hi, > > I hope someone can help and apologies in advance for my elementary coding > skills. > > I am trying to create a response bar (drawn by the canvas function) that > is incrementally filled by each button press (each of the multiple button > presses required for an individual trial). I have tried to combine the > ScoreBar and MultipleResponseCollection sample scripts from the PST eprime > support site. I want the number of presses required to be randomly > determined by an attribute called MaxCount (which is set by RewardProb) at > the beginning of each trial. Eventually, the duration of each trial will > also vary depending on RewardProb (this bit works well in another script I > have). > > I am attaching the script that I have so far. It seems to be partially > working. When the number of presses set by the attribute MaxCount is > reached, the trial terminates as it should, however, there is a substantial > delay before the response bar starts filling. Also, I would like the canvas > to be cleared of all images after each trial (because the next thing I am > going to work on is making the size of the response bar variable on each > trial). But for now, I would greatly appreciate any help with getting a > response bar that fills with each press on a single trial and clears after > the trial is finished. > > Many thanks in advance if you can help! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/470f1db1-0c3a-4542-9c9c-1fd114c0a0cc%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. 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Many thanks for your help. ~Holly On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:41:33 PM UTC-4, Paul Groot wrote: > > hi, > > It seems that you now have a stimulus screen (with a static contents) that > stays on screen until all presses are collected. Then, when the Stimulus > object finishes, you start an inline script that processes all past button > presses. If you would like to update the bar immediately after each button > press, you need a different construct. I think it would be very similar to > the code I used in my VAS example script: > http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/83-example-scripts/80-visual-analogue-scale-example-for-e-prime.html > (look at the DragScale function). Also note that you should set the > duration of the Stimulus screen to zero, or set the prerelease to same as > duration. > > Best > Paul > > > > > On 6 June 2013 18:02, free_operant_task >wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I hope someone can help and apologies in advance for my elementary coding >> skills. >> >> I am trying to create a response bar (drawn by the canvas function) that >> is incrementally filled by each button press (each of the multiple button >> presses required for an individual trial). I have tried to combine the >> ScoreBar and MultipleResponseCollection sample scripts from the PST eprime >> support site. I want the number of presses required to be randomly >> determined by an attribute called MaxCount (which is set by RewardProb) at >> the beginning of each trial. Eventually, the duration of each trial will >> also vary depending on RewardProb (this bit works well in another script I >> have). >> >> I am attaching the script that I have so far. It seems to be partially >> working. When the number of presses set by the attribute MaxCount is >> reached, the trial terminates as it should, however, there is a substantial >> delay before the response bar starts filling. Also, I would like the canvas >> to be cleared of all images after each trial (because the next thing I am >> going to work on is making the size of the response bar variable on each >> trial). But for now, I would greatly appreciate any help with getting a >> response bar that fills with each press on a single trial and clears after >> the trial is finished. >> >> Many thanks in advance if you can help! >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com >> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/470f1db1-0c3a-4542-9c9c-1fd114c0a0cc%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/c040807d-867a-4dc0-b811-809ff9c35b05%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amy.vogel at gmail.com Sat Jun 8 17:44:18 2013 From: amy.vogel at gmail.com (Amy Vogel) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 10:44:18 -0700 Subject: Logging multiple responses to one slide (key press and voice onset) Message-ID: Dear Group: First, I want E-Prime to log the response latency through the mic. That is, when the subject initiated speech. I designed my procedure so that the slide will not advance when the subject initiates speech. The other issue is that I also want E-Prime to record logging information for key press. I mentioned before that the subject's verbal response does not drive the procedure forward; rather, a key press initiates the next part of the experiment. Apparently the new version of E-Prime has an issue with capturing inputs from two different sources at the same point in the procedure (e.g., from the mic [SR BOX] and from the keyboard). When I have played around with this, I have noticed that the procedure just freezes-- the key press does not drive the procedure forward like it should. >From what I have read, you can log dual responses (from the mic and keyboard), but E-Prime only logs information from the last input (e.g., the keyboard in my case because that is what advances the procedure, and the key press occurs after the mic input). I have looked at the following two posts to see how to modify the script to log information from both inputs, but I haven't gotten it to work. http://www.pstnet.com/forum/Topic355-5-1.aspx http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic474-8-1.aspx Thank you for your help. Let me know if there is anything else I can post that might be of assistance (e.g., aspects of the script). Amy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/9f9f021e-8bb4-45d2-b6ba-a251d3fbd49f%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pfc.groot at gmail.com Sat Jun 8 23:10:25 2013 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 01:10:25 +0200 Subject: Response bar updated by multiple presses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Packages should first be added to the default package directory (My Experiments/Packages), or put in a folder that you explicitly added to the package folder search list in EStudio. Then restart estudio and add it to your exp. However, to view the script I mentioned, you could open the package in the package editor instead. (EStudio will only show the package content only in the generated ebs-script.) ~paul On 7 June 2013 21:27, free_operant_task wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Thanks for your reply and for sharing your VAS script. I seem to be having > some trouble adding the VAS.epk2 package. When I go to Experiment Object > Properties >> Add the package is not given as an option to be added. Do you > have any suggestions? Is the package soemthing I have to purchase to > activate? > > Many thanks for your help. > > ~Holly > > > > On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:41:33 PM UTC-4, Paul Groot wrote: > >> hi, >> >> It seems that you now have a stimulus screen (with a static contents) >> that stays on screen until all presses are collected. Then, when the >> Stimulus object finishes, you start an inline script that processes all >> past button presses. If you would like to update the bar immediately after >> each button press, you need a different construct. I think it would be very >> similar to the code I used in my VAS example script: >> http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/83-**example-scripts/80-visual-** >> analogue-scale-example-for-e-**prime.html >> (look at the DragScale function). Also note that you should set the >> duration of the Stimulus screen to zero, or set the prerelease to same as >> duration. >> >> Best >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> On 6 June 2013 18:02, free_operant_task wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I hope someone can help and apologies in advance for my elementary >>> coding skills. >>> >>> I am trying to create a response bar (drawn by the canvas function) that >>> is incrementally filled by each button press (each of the multiple button >>> presses required for an individual trial). I have tried to combine the >>> ScoreBar and MultipleResponseCollection sample scripts from the PST eprime >>> support site. I want the number of presses required to be randomly >>> determined by an attribute called MaxCount (which is set by RewardProb) at >>> the beginning of each trial. Eventually, the duration of each trial will >>> also vary depending on RewardProb (this bit works well in another script I >>> have). >>> >>> I am attaching the script that I have so far. It seems to be partially >>> working. When the number of presses set by the attribute MaxCount is >>> reached, the trial terminates as it should, however, there is a substantial >>> delay before the response bar starts filling. Also, I would like the canvas >>> to be cleared of all images after each trial (because the next thing I am >>> going to work on is making the size of the response bar variable on each >>> trial). But for now, I would greatly appreciate any help with getting a >>> response bar that fills with each press on a single trial and clears after >>> the trial is finished. >>> >>> Many thanks in advance if you can help! >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "E-Prime" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to e-prime+u...@**googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com. >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** >>> msgid/e-prime/470f1db1-0c3a-**4542-9c9c-1fd114c0a0cc%** >>> 40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/c040807d-867a-4dc0-b811-809ff9c35b05%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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Thanks for sharing! ~Holly On Saturday, June 8, 2013 7:10:25 PM UTC-4, Paul Groot wrote: > > Packages should first be added to the default package directory (My > Experiments/Packages), or put in a folder that you explicitly added to the > package folder search list in EStudio. Then restart estudio and add it to > your exp. However, to view the script I mentioned, you could open the > package in the package editor instead. (EStudio will only show the package > content only in the generated ebs-script.) > > ~paul > > > On 7 June 2013 21:27, free_operant_task >wrote: > >> Hi Paul, >> >> Thanks for your reply and for sharing your VAS script. I seem to be >> having some trouble adding the VAS.epk2 package. When I go to Experiment >> Object Properties >> Add the package is not given as an option to be added. >> Do you have any suggestions? Is the package soemthing I have to purchase to >> activate? >> >> Many thanks for your help. >> >> ~Holly >> >> >> >> On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:41:33 PM UTC-4, Paul Groot wrote: >> >>> hi, >>> >>> It seems that you now have a stimulus screen (with a static contents) >>> that stays on screen until all presses are collected. Then, when the >>> Stimulus object finishes, you start an inline script that processes all >>> past button presses. If you would like to update the bar immediately after >>> each button press, you need a different construct. I think it would be very >>> similar to the code I used in my VAS example script: >>> http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/83-**example-scripts/80-visual-** >>> analogue-scale-example-for-e-**prime.html >>> (look at the DragScale function). Also note that you should set the >>> duration of the Stimulus screen to zero, or set the prerelease to same as >>> duration. >>> >>> Best >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6 June 2013 18:02, free_operant_task wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I hope someone can help and apologies in advance for my elementary >>>> coding skills. >>>> >>>> I am trying to create a response bar (drawn by the canvas function) >>>> that is incrementally filled by each button press (each of the multiple >>>> button presses required for an individual trial). I have tried to combine >>>> the ScoreBar and MultipleResponseCollection sample scripts from the PST >>>> eprime support site. I want the number of presses required to be randomly >>>> determined by an attribute called MaxCount (which is set by RewardProb) at >>>> the beginning of each trial. Eventually, the duration of each trial will >>>> also vary depending on RewardProb (this bit works well in another script I >>>> have). >>>> >>>> I am attaching the script that I have so far. It seems to be partially >>>> working. When the number of presses set by the attribute MaxCount is >>>> reached, the trial terminates as it should, however, there is a substantial >>>> delay before the response bar starts filling. Also, I would like the canvas >>>> to be cleared of all images after each trial (because the next thing I am >>>> going to work on is making the size of the response bar variable on each >>>> trial). But for now, I would greatly appreciate any help with getting a >>>> response bar that fills with each press on a single trial and clears after >>>> the trial is finished. >>>> >>>> Many thanks in advance if you can help! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "E-Prime" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to e-prime+u...@**googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** >>>> msgid/e-prime/470f1db1-0c3a-**4542-9c9c-1fd114c0a0cc%** >>>> 40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com >> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/c040807d-867a-4dc0-b811-809ff9c35b05%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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URL: From piercarlo.mauri at gmail.com Tue Jun 11 08:22:16 2013 From: piercarlo.mauri at gmail.com (Piercarlo Mauri) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 01:22:16 -0700 Subject: Collect responses after target disappeared...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry Katrin, you mean that in case of response during the second response slide (the fixation cross of 800ms) I would have to manually add 200ms to response time in the data? (in order to include the first 200ms slide on the total time of response). Is this the only possible method? Thank you PM Il giorno martedì 4 giugno 2013 18:46:14 UTC+2, Katrin ha scritto: > > You should just allow responses on both slides, you don't have to do > anything else. Then you will either get a Reaction time for the first or > for the second slide. In case two you would have to add 200 ms to make up > for that. Is that clear enough? Best > Katrin > > > 2013/6/4 Piercarlo Mauri > > >> Thanks for your reply, >> I tried to use slide after the target with a duration of 800ms showing a >> fixation point and I reduced the first fixation to 0-1200, in this way the >> subject will have 200ms of the stimulus + 800ms of the other slide to >> respond and it seems to work, but do I have to set time limit in the >> stimulus slide to 1000ms in order to allow a response in the stimulus slide >> (200 ms) and also in the next slide (800ms)? Will the reaction time be >> recorded also if the subject press the button during the stimulus or during >> the next slide? >> >> >> >> Il giorno martedì 4 giugno 2013 16:00:44 UTC+2, Katrin ha scritto: >>> >>> Ciao PierCarlo, >>> >>> Two possibilities come to my mind >>> a) why not just putting another slide of 800 ms length after your >>> stimulus slide. Just a black textslide I mean. Just make this slide also >>> collect responses, but terminate always after 800 ms. This has the >>> disadvantage of course that the trial does not end with the response. But >>> maybe this is not the problem >>> If it is a problem I would make a short movieclip instead of the >>> textslide-stimulus. That would mean filming a digit for the 200 ms (or >>> putting frames of a picture in a movieformat to fill 200 ms, and then add >>> another 800 ms of black in the movie. This movie can act as the stimulus >>> and you can make the slide end with the response of the subject. Was that >>> of any help? >>> Katrin >>> >>> >>> 2013/6/4 Piercarlo Mauri >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> I'm new to this group and also to e-prime software, so please excuse me >>>> if the question will sound simple to you...I tried to find a solution >>>> online without any results... >>>> I'm creating my first experiment in e-prime and will be a continous >>>> performance test (CPT), a series of digits will be presented each one for >>>> 200ms with a variable ISI between 800-2000 ms. Subject will have to press a >>>> button on a SRbox only to one specific digit (target ) while they don't >>>> have to press buttons to other digits. The problem is that the responses >>>> are not collected by EP after the duration of 200ms of the stimulus (I >>>> would like to allow a time limit of 800ms after the appearence of the >>>> target), I tried to extend timeLimit for the SRbox input but the response >>>> will not be recorded. >>>> The experiment is divided in TrialList (list of digits presented in a >>>> random order), TrialProc with: Inline (to randomize the duration of >>>> fixation) / Fixation / Stimuli (with 200 of duration and timeLimit to 800 >>>> but EP doesn't collect responses after the 200ms of the stimulus). Can you >>>> help me? >>>> Thank you >>>> PM >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "E-Prime" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to e-prime+u...@**googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** >>>> msgid/e-prime/e491bda7-75d7-**48e4-83bc-c75905202482%** >>>> 40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com >> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/05cf31d9-37a5-4254-9005-96f55851baa2%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/c25b123f-52e6-47e2-b10f-b9027b0ee693%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katrinheimann at gmail.com Tue Jun 11 08:30:28 2013 From: katrinheimann at gmail.com (KatrinH Heimann) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:30:28 +0200 Subject: Collect responses after target disappeared...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: well, what do you mean with manually? you will of course not change every number by hand, but either program that later in the database, or you can even do that with a copydemand in excel, right? Should take you not more than a few seconds... best katrin 2013/6/11 Piercarlo Mauri > Sorry Katrin, > you mean that in case of response during the second response slide (the > fixation cross of 800ms) I would have to manually add 200ms to response > time in the data? (in order to include the first 200ms slide on the total > time of response). Is this the only possible method? > Thank you > PM > > > > Il giorno martedì 4 giugno 2013 18:46:14 UTC+2, Katrin ha scritto: >> >> You should just allow responses on both slides, you don't have to do >> anything else. Then you will either get a Reaction time for the first or >> for the second slide. In case two you would have to add 200 ms to make up >> for that. Is that clear enough? Best >> Katrin >> >> >> 2013/6/4 Piercarlo Mauri >> >>> Thanks for your reply, >>> I tried to use slide after the target with a duration of 800ms showing a >>> fixation point and I reduced the first fixation to 0-1200, in this way the >>> subject will have 200ms of the stimulus + 800ms of the other slide to >>> respond and it seems to work, but do I have to set time limit in the >>> stimulus slide to 1000ms in order to allow a response in the stimulus slide >>> (200 ms) and also in the next slide (800ms)? Will the reaction time be >>> recorded also if the subject press the button during the stimulus or during >>> the next slide? >>> >>> >>> >>> Il giorno martedì 4 giugno 2013 16:00:44 UTC+2, Katrin ha scritto: >>>> >>>> Ciao PierCarlo, >>>> >>>> Two possibilities come to my mind >>>> a) why not just putting another slide of 800 ms length after your >>>> stimulus slide. Just a black textslide I mean. Just make this slide also >>>> collect responses, but terminate always after 800 ms. This has the >>>> disadvantage of course that the trial does not end with the response. But >>>> maybe this is not the problem >>>> If it is a problem I would make a short movieclip instead of the >>>> textslide-stimulus. That would mean filming a digit for the 200 ms (or >>>> putting frames of a picture in a movieformat to fill 200 ms, and then add >>>> another 800 ms of black in the movie. This movie can act as the stimulus >>>> and you can make the slide end with the response of the subject. Was that >>>> of any help? >>>> Katrin >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/6/4 Piercarlo Mauri >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> I'm new to this group and also to e-prime software, so please excuse >>>>> me if the question will sound simple to you...I tried to find a solution >>>>> online without any results... >>>>> I'm creating my first experiment in e-prime and will be a continous >>>>> performance test (CPT), a series of digits will be presented each one for >>>>> 200ms with a variable ISI between 800-2000 ms. Subject will have to press a >>>>> button on a SRbox only to one specific digit (target ) while they don't >>>>> have to press buttons to other digits. The problem is that the responses >>>>> are not collected by EP after the duration of 200ms of the stimulus (I >>>>> would like to allow a time limit of 800ms after the appearence of the >>>>> target), I tried to extend timeLimit for the SRbox input but the response >>>>> will not be recorded. >>>>> The experiment is divided in TrialList (list of digits presented in a >>>>> random order), TrialProc with: Inline (to randomize the duration of >>>>> fixation) / Fixation / Stimuli (with 200 of duration and timeLimit to 800 >>>>> but EP doesn't collect responses after the 200ms of the stimulus). Can you >>>>> help me? >>>>> Thank you >>>>> PM >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "E-Prime" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to e-prime+u...@**googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/* >>>>> *ms**gid/e-prime/e491bda7-75d7-**48e4**-83bc-c75905202482%** >>>>> 40googlegro**ups.com?hl=en-US >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**grou**ps/opt_out >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "E-Prime" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to e-prime+u...@**googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** >>> msgid/e-prime/05cf31d9-37a5-**4254-9005-96f55851baa2%** >>> 40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/c25b123f-52e6-47e2-b10f-b9027b0ee693%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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Right now I have a break following Block 1 and a break following Block 2, which gives me an unnecessary break at the end of the experiment. The one option I can think of is to save two orders of the experiment (order 1: Block1, Block 2; Order2: Block2, Block1) on the computer and randomly assign participants to each. But there has got to be a more elegant way to make the mid-way break appear between the two blocks regardless of the counterbalance order. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Roxana -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/73e31711-cad5-490d-9e07-c4737e7f5373%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobias.fw at gmail.com Thu Jun 13 10:22:29 2013 From: tobias.fw at gmail.com (Tobias) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 03:22:29 -0700 Subject: Some parellel port keys work, some don't Message-ID: Hey there, I am using parallel port for response collection. My port ist &HD051 and I set a test slide to be terminated by ANY response made with the parallel port keys. That works fine with one device, but with another device id does not work at all. Of course you may think that maybe the other one is broken. But a collegue of mine who is using "Presentation" software can use both just fine. Any hint? Best, Tobias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/177824ba-4542-4c97-b78c-3a258a8d3485%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pfc.groot at gmail.com Thu Jun 13 15:21:01 2013 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:21:01 +0200 Subject: Some parellel port keys work, some don't In-Reply-To: <177824ba-4542-4c97-b78c-3a258a8d3485@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Which pin's are you using for input? The 8 data lines are sensitive to the port mode setting (Normal SPP, ECP, EPP). And what happens if you use a ParallelPort device instead of a plain Port device? (I think you need EP2-pro for this) Paul On 13 June 2013 12:22, Tobias wrote: > Hey there, > > I am using parallel port for response collection. My port ist &HD051 and I > set a test slide to be terminated by ANY response made with the parallel > port keys. That works fine with one device, but with another device id does > not work at all. > Of course you may think that maybe the other one is broken. But a collegue > of mine who is using "Presentation" software can use both just fine. > > Any hint? > Best, > Tobias > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/177824ba-4542-4c97-b78c-3a258a8d3485%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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Then I used D051 and it worked - but only for this one device. Not for another one. I am not sure which pins/bits the buttons are using each, but it may be that the one device uses one different from the other device. I would like to tell E-Prime to use the entire port. I don't know how to sepcify the port mode. I don't know the difference between ParallelPort device and plain Port device. All I know is both devices I have here have 25 pins and 8 of them should be used to transfer the data, right? Best, Tobias Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2013 12:22:29 UTC+2 schrieb Tobias: > > Hey there, > > I am using parallel port for response collection. My port ist &HD051 and I > set a test slide to be terminated by ANY response made with the parallel > port keys. That works fine with one device, but with another device id does > not work at all. > Of course you may think that maybe the other one is broken. But a collegue > of mine who is using "Presentation" software can use both just fine. > > Any hint? > Best, > Tobias > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/b63bcb3a-9afe-4ba9-bbee-51fd5a1938e5%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pfc.groot at gmail.com Thu Jun 13 21:06:21 2013 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 23:06:21 +0200 Subject: Some parellel port keys work, some don't In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, it's rather essential to know which pins are being used because different pins are mapped to different registers (i.e. different addresses). There are three 8-bit registers: data (base address), status (base address+1) and control (base address+2). The 25 pins are input, output, or bidirectional. The directionality of the data pins depends on the selected mode. For internal ports you can specify this mode using the BIOS setup, but I'm not sure how you this can be done with ports that are not integrated on the system board. The 8 data lines (which are mapped to the base register) are by default used for output only, so they won't accept any input unless you explicitly instruct the hardware to change its mode. The nice thing about the new ParallelPort object is that you can use the GUI to select input or output mode, without any further programming. There are also other advantages: http://www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=1247. If your button box is not wired to the data lines, then they are probably connected to the lines that are mapped to the status register (i.e. base address+1). I don't think you can use the ParallelPort device in this case, so you could simply fall back to the Port device. General info about the parallel port pinning and registers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_port Info about using input lines with the status register: http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/85-tips-and-tricks/71-button-box-on-printer-port.html best, paul On 13 June 2013 18:44, Tobias wrote: > Hey, thanks. > > I have E-Studio 2 Professional. I had a look at the control panel for the > addresses of the parallel port and they are D050-D057 and D040-D047. > > In E-Prime I have to specify the port and tried D050 first - which didn't > work. Then I used D051 and it worked - but only for this one device. Not > for another one. > I am not sure which pins/bits the buttons are using each, but it may be > that the one device uses one different from the other device. I would like > to tell E-Prime to use the entire port. > > I don't know how to sepcify the port mode. I don't know the difference > between ParallelPort device and plain Port device. > All I know is both devices I have here have 25 pins and 8 of them should > be used to transfer the data, right? > > Best, > Tobias > > Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2013 12:22:29 UTC+2 schrieb Tobias: > >> Hey there, >> >> I am using parallel port for response collection. My port ist &HD051 and >> I set a test slide to be terminated by ANY response made with the parallel >> port keys. That works fine with one device, but with another device id does >> not work at all. >> Of course you may think that maybe the other one is broken. But a >> collegue of mine who is using "Presentation" software can use both just >> fine. >> >> Any hint? >> Best, >> Tobias >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/b63bcb3a-9afe-4ba9-bbee-51fd5a1938e5%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/CAKAdR-vLkoxy9uyOOOXWKNSfaKEqC12ByiphbD8i%3DjE_5H5Ucg%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pfc.groot at gmail.com Thu Jun 13 21:17:33 2013 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 23:17:33 +0200 Subject: Some parellel port keys work, some don't In-Reply-To: Message-ID: PS. Perhaps the attached TriggerMonitor script is of any use. You can specify the input address in the startupinfo-file. This tool also has an option to reroute the input to another output port (although you probably won't use that feature.) Paul On 13 June 2013 23:06, Paul Groot wrote: > Well, it's rather essential to know which pins are being used because > different pins are mapped to different registers (i.e. different > addresses). There are three 8-bit registers: data (base address), status > (base address+1) and control (base address+2). The 25 pins are input, > output, or bidirectional. The directionality of the data pins depends on > the selected mode. For internal ports you can specify this mode using the > BIOS setup, but I'm not sure how you this can be done with ports that are > not integrated on the system board. The 8 data lines (which are mapped to > the base register) are by default used for output only, so they won't > accept any input unless you explicitly instruct the hardware to change its > mode. The nice thing about the new ParallelPort object is that you can use > the GUI to select input or output mode, without any further programming. > There are also other advantages: > http://www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=1247. If your button box is > not wired to the data lines, then they are probably connected to the lines > that are mapped to the status register (i.e. base address+1). I don't think > you can use the ParallelPort device in this case, so you could simply fall > back to the Port device. > > > General info about the parallel port pinning and registers: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_port > Info about using input lines with the status register: > http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/85-tips-and-tricks/71-button-box-on-printer-port.html > > best, > paul > > > On 13 June 2013 18:44, Tobias wrote: > >> Hey, thanks. >> >> I have E-Studio 2 Professional. I had a look at the control panel for the >> addresses of the parallel port and they are D050-D057 and D040-D047. >> >> In E-Prime I have to specify the port and tried D050 first - which didn't >> work. Then I used D051 and it worked - but only for this one device. Not >> for another one. >> I am not sure which pins/bits the buttons are using each, but it may be >> that the one device uses one different from the other device. I would like >> to tell E-Prime to use the entire port. >> >> I don't know how to sepcify the port mode. I don't know the difference >> between ParallelPort device and plain Port device. >> All I know is both devices I have here have 25 pins and 8 of them should >> be used to transfer the data, right? >> >> Best, >> Tobias >> >> Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2013 12:22:29 UTC+2 schrieb Tobias: >> >>> Hey there, >>> >>> I am using parallel port for response collection. My port ist &HD051 and >>> I set a test slide to be terminated by ANY response made with the parallel >>> port keys. That works fine with one device, but with another device id does >>> not work at all. >>> Of course you may think that maybe the other one is broken. But a >>> collegue of mine who is using "Presentation" software can use both just >>> fine. >>> >>> Any hint? >>> Best, >>> Tobias >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/b63bcb3a-9afe-4ba9-bbee-51fd5a1938e5%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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We are ripping a total of 12 one-minute video clips from various movies (e.g., Matilda, Harry Potter) using AoA DVD ripper and using Camtasia to standardize the volumes (we couldn't find a program that clipped videos AND allowed us to standardize volumes). Basically our task presents these 1 minute clips with an ITI of 10 seconds between each clip and presents some startle probes to the participants. Our problem is that the program crashes after playing some of the videos randomly, and it's been difficult to assess why it crashes at all. We've run our task on both Windows XP and Windows 7 and both have crashed. -In Windows XP, the program always seems to freeze on the last frame of video clips with an XVID or tcs2 (camtasia) codec - it doesn't seem to matter which codec it is. -In Windows 7, the program froze in between video clips We've tried playing around with the E-prime CodecConfig, but a lot of the error messages we've been getting say "Filter is not DMO", but we're unsure what that means. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/9982538b-8290-441a-8a6d-7c2f3082a860%40googlegroups.com. 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To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/aae71650-d41d-4ded-a4d5-e13fa0d1a65d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nitz.david at gmail.com Thu Jun 13 23:49:54 2013 From: nitz.david at gmail.com (Dave) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:49:54 -0700 Subject: Video clips make program crash In-Reply-To: <9982538b-8290-441a-8a6d-7c2f3082a860@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: DMO stands for "*D*irectX *M*edia *O*bject". You can find technical information on this type of object in the MSDN, including this article explaining the difference between DMOs and DirectShow Filters: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa925317.aspx In sum, I would say you do have some sort of codec problem on your machines. Can't say more, I rarely deal with E-Prime anymore. -David On Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:27:46 PM UTC+2, Hans Schroder wrote: > > Hey all, > > Our team has perused some of the group responses on issues with video > files, but none seem to address the problems that we're experiencing. We > are dealing with two codecs: XVID and tcs2 (camtasia). > > We are ripping a total of 12 one-minute video clips from various movies > (e.g., Matilda, Harry Potter) using AoA DVD ripper and using Camtasia to > standardize the volumes (we couldn't find a program that clipped videos AND > allowed us to standardize volumes). > > Basically our task presents these 1 minute clips with an ITI of 10 seconds > between each clip and presents some startle probes to the participants. Our > problem is that the program crashes after playing some of the videos > randomly, and it's been difficult to assess why it crashes at all. > > We've run our task on both Windows XP and Windows 7 and both have crashed. > > -In Windows XP, the program always seems to freeze on the last frame of > video clips with an XVID or tcs2 (camtasia) codec - it doesn't seem to > matter which codec it is. > > -In Windows 7, the program froze in between video clips > > We've tried playing around with the E-prime CodecConfig, but a lot of the > error messages we've been getting say "Filter is not DMO", but we're unsure > what that means. > > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/ee0ba0ab-d8bc-43fb-b996-e62d5254e3e5%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobias.fw at gmail.com Sat Jun 15 17:38:31 2013 From: tobias.fw at gmail.com (Tobias) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:38:31 -0700 Subject: Some parellel port keys work, some don't In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks a lot. That was really helpful. So I figured that the one device is using data, the other one is using status pins. Apparently, &hd030 refers to data pins and &hd031 to status pins. Similarly for the other parallel port, &hd050 refers to data pins and &hd051 to status pins. This might also be helpful for others who try figuring out how to specify port settings in E-Prime. I couldn't use your script, it seems to be made with a newer version than the one we have (2.0.8.90). But it works fine now so thanks a lot! Best, Tobias Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2013 23:06:21 UTC+2 schrieb Paul Groot: > > Well, it's rather essential to know which pins are being used because > different pins are mapped to different registers (i.e. different > addresses). There are three 8-bit registers: data (base address), status > (base address+1) and control (base address+2). The 25 pins are input, > output, or bidirectional. The directionality of the data pins depends on > the selected mode. For internal ports you can specify this mode using the > BIOS setup, but I'm not sure how you this can be done with ports that are > not integrated on the system board. The 8 data lines (which are mapped to > the base register) are by default used for output only, so they won't > accept any input unless you explicitly instruct the hardware to change its > mode. The nice thing about the new ParallelPort object is that you can use > the GUI to select input or output mode, without any further programming. > There are also other advantages: > http://www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=1247. If your button box is > not wired to the data lines, then they are probably connected to the lines > that are mapped to the status register (i.e. base address+1). I don't think > you can use the ParallelPort device in this case, so you could simply fall > back to the Port device. > > > General info about the parallel port pinning and registers: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_port > Info about using input lines with the status register: > http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/85-tips-and-tricks/71-button-box-on-printer-port.html > > best, > paul > > > On 13 June 2013 18:44, Tobias > wrote: > >> Hey, thanks. >> >> I have E-Studio 2 Professional. I had a look at the control panel for the >> addresses of the parallel port and they are D050-D057 and D040-D047. >> >> In E-Prime I have to specify the port and tried D050 first - which didn't >> work. Then I used D051 and it worked - but only for this one device. Not >> for another one. >> I am not sure which pins/bits the buttons are using each, but it may be >> that the one device uses one different from the other device. I would like >> to tell E-Prime to use the entire port. >> >> I don't know how to sepcify the port mode. I don't know the difference >> between ParallelPort device and plain Port device. >> All I know is both devices I have here have 25 pins and 8 of them should >> be used to transfer the data, right? >> >> Best, >> Tobias >> >> Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2013 12:22:29 UTC+2 schrieb Tobias: >> >>> Hey there, >>> >>> I am using parallel port for response collection. My port ist &HD051 and >>> I set a test slide to be terminated by ANY response made with the parallel >>> port keys. That works fine with one device, but with another device id does >>> not work at all. >>> Of course you may think that maybe the other one is broken. But a >>> collegue of mine who is using "Presentation" software can use both just >>> fine. >>> >>> Any hint? >>> Best, >>> Tobias >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com >> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/b63bcb3a-9afe-4ba9-bbee-51fd5a1938e5%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/96e25cdd-3eb2-42b5-9a4b-8cd3e14cd45f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobias.fw at gmail.com Sat Jun 15 17:45:41 2013 From: tobias.fw at gmail.com (Tobias) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:45:41 -0700 Subject: Delay in offset Message-ID: Dear all, I have encountered a weird delay in offset for slides and text displays. When I have such an object in the end of a procedure and there is only inlines computing some variables, there is a delay of about 1 sec or so. I used pretty much standard settings, duration -1, terminate and keyboard ({ANY}) as input. Whenever I pressed a key to end the slide/text display, it took an additional time until it terminated. I have not used PreRelease. So I wanted to measure how much time exactly the delay takes. I inserted another object at the very end of the procedure so that I can compute SecondObject.OnsetTime - FirstObject.OnsetTime. Now what happened was that there was NO delay anymore and the first object immediately set off whenever I pressed a key. This doesn't seem to be such a big problem since I can use a very time-limited second object (10 ms) tat wouldn't really disturb anything. Still it is quite a bit annyoing and I have encountered this problem before. Let me know if you had similar trouble and/or know a solution. Best, Tobias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/fe3ba7c8-47df-4109-b20e-6ce727bde82c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d.vinson at ucl.ac.uk Mon Jun 17 09:14:49 2013 From: d.vinson at ucl.ac.uk (Vinson, David) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:14:49 +0000 Subject: Video clips make program crash In-Reply-To: <9982538b-8290-441a-8a6d-7c2f3082a860@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Unfortunately this does look like a codec problem, we had similar unpredictable freezing performance using videos, which we eventually solved by (1) experimenting with a range of different codecs, and (2) removing all the extra video junk and using a clean reinstall of E-Prime. In our case once we found a suitable codec that worked in E-Prime with our hardware, we didn't have to touch Codec Config. In fact once I stopped messing with Codec Config things went easier for me (ie, trying to change my codecs rather than trying to get E-Prime working with codecs it doesn't like). We also preload videos before they are displayed, and incorporate more breaks than we usually would between sets of trials. I am not sure whether this makes any difference but both seemed to reduce the incidence of freezing behaviour before we found a more stable codec configuration & we have kept both in place where possible. *Our videos are all <10sec. Suggestions - for trimming we have started using "Solveig MM AVI Trimmer + MKV" freeware http://www.solveigmm.com/en/products/avi-trimmer-mkv/ This is a very simple editor that crucially does not do any re-encoding/decoding Also if you are standardizing volumes, a possible alternative might be to split the audio and video tracks then standardize the audio levels using an audio-only package. This does require combining the audio and video back together again which could cause its own range of problems. Or, a different thought - if all you are doing is adjusting the volume of the audio for the videos, it might be possible to do this using the volume controls? Such things are incompletely documented when it comes to video, but in many cases there are aspects of Movies that work the same as SoundOut. In which case you could specify your desired Volume (Volume Control = yes) for each of the clips based on values you determined beforehand. If this works it could allow you to avoid use of an extra codec step. See reference guide section on SoundOut and see if it works for movies.... good luck! david ________________________________ From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [e-prime at googlegroups.com] on behalf of Hans Schroder [hans.stuart.schroder at gmail.com] Sent: 13 June 2013 22:27 To: e-prime at googlegroups.com Subject: Video clips make program crash Hey all, Our team has perused some of the group responses on issues with video files, but none seem to address the problems that we're experiencing. We are dealing with two codecs: XVID and tcs2 (camtasia). We are ripping a total of 12 one-minute video clips from various movies (e.g., Matilda, Harry Potter) using AoA DVD ripper and using Camtasia to standardize the volumes (we couldn't find a program that clipped videos AND allowed us to standardize volumes). Basically our task presents these 1 minute clips with an ITI of 10 seconds between each clip and presents some startle probes to the participants. Our problem is that the program crashes after playing some of the videos randomly, and it's been difficult to assess why it crashes at all. We've run our task on both Windows XP and Windows 7 and both have crashed. -In Windows XP, the program always seems to freeze on the last frame of video clips with an XVID or tcs2 (camtasia) codec - it doesn't seem to matter which codec it is. -In Windows 7, the program froze in between video clips We've tried playing around with the E-prime CodecConfig, but a lot of the error messages we've been getting say "Filter is not DMO", but we're unsure what that means. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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If the sound file contains more sound, then try using the SlideSound Stop Offset to limit the playback to 200 ms. ----- David McFarlane E-Prime training online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) /---- Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff take any and all questions at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , and they strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours, so make full use of it. 3) In addition, PST offers several instructional videos on their YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ). 4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. \---- At 6/18/2013 11:03 AM Tuesday, luigi.baciadonna at gmail.com wrote: >I need to set up a new experiment with >the presentation of image and sound in the same time but with >different duration: >sound for 200ms >image for 50ms >Seems like that E-prime not allow to change in sub-properties object >the duration >independently for image and sound keeping the synchronization. Any suggestion? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/51c07a6b.2649320a.1d9a.0d32SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From nivavr at gmail.com Tue Jun 18 15:31:42 2013 From: nivavr at gmail.com (avraham niv) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:31:42 -0700 Subject: Unable to set the VAS (Paul Groot VAS with changes) needle direction when the scale is vertical Message-ID: Hi all, First I would really like to thank Paul for the script for the VAS it's great! In my experiment I need to use the VAS both horizontally and vertically, and i need the needle starting position to be at the left and right edges (and not like Paul's VAS in the center). For the horizontal VAS I managed to do it by adding another argument to VAS_DragScale so it looks like this: Function VAS_DragScale(c As Context, strAttributeName as string, Optional duration as Variant, *Optional strSliderDirection as Variant*) as Integer and than inside the function i added the following: 'set mouse cursor at left right or center position If IsMissing(strSliderDirection) then Mouse.SetCursorPos 0.5*(VAS_SliderDummy.Left+VAS_SliderDummy.Right), VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom else if strSliderDirection = "left" then Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Left, VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom else if strSliderDirection = "right" then Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Right, VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom end if end if End If and in the trials I use an inline to tell the needle where to start. That went fine but when I try to implement it in the vertical VAS it always starts from the bottom of the slider dummy text object, I guess it is got to do with the fact that to create the vertical vas I just changed the slide text object (VAS_SliderDummy) dimensions, in the script basically changes every X to Y and vice versa, and every Object.Right to Object.Bottom and every Object.Left to Object.Top . So for example my changes to the script above looks like this: 'set mouse cursor at up down or center position If IsMissing(strSliderDirection1) then Mouse.SetCursorPos 0.5*(VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom+VAS_SliderDummy.Top), VAS_SliderDummy.Left else if strSliderDirection1 = "top" then Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Top, VAS_SliderDummy.Left else if strSliderDirection1 = "bottom" then Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom, VAS_SliderDummy.Left end if end if End If As I mentioned it doesn't work. If anyone got a clue I will be greatfull! I attached the whole experiment if someone needs it and I would like to thank Paul again for the original script. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/1af07bf2-5f71-4f20-baa4-3c0acb57543d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For the SlideSound sub-object, make > sure you set Stop After to No. Now the the sound will continue > playing after the end of the Slide. If the sound file contains 200 > ms of sound, the you should be done. If the sound file contains more > sound, then try using the SlideSound Stop Offset to limit the > playback to 200 ms. > > ----- > David McFarlane > E-Prime training > online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx > Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) > > /---- > Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff > take any and all questions at > http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , and they > strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours, so make full use of > it. 3) In addition, PST offers several instructional videos on their > YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ). 4) If you do > get an answer from PST staff, please extend the courtesy of posting > their reply back here for the sake of others. > \---- > > > At 6/18/2013 11:03 AM Tuesday, luigi.ba... at gmail.com wrote: > >I need to set up a new experiment with > >the presentation of image and sound in the same time but with > >different duration: > >sound for 200ms > >image for 50ms > >Seems like that E-prime not allow to change in sub-properties object > >the duration > >independently for image and sound keeping the synchronization. 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URL: From pfc.groot at gmail.com Tue Jun 18 18:40:48 2013 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:40:48 +0200 Subject: Unable to set the VAS (Paul Groot VAS with changes) needle direction when the scale is vertical In-Reply-To: <1af07bf2-5f71-4f20-baa4-3c0acb57543d@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi, Well, I'm not able to double check this right now, but SetCursosPos accepts X,Y coordinates (in that order) by definition. Using Slider.Bottom for X and Slider.Left for Y, etc. doesn't make sense... Shouldn't it be something like this?: if strSliderDirection1 = "bottom" then Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Left, VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom end if On 18 June 2013 17:31, avraham niv wrote: > Hi all, > First I would really like to thank Paul for the script for the VAS it's > great! > In my experiment I need to use the VAS both horizontally and vertically, > and i need the needle starting position to be at the left and right edges > (and not like Paul's VAS in the center). > For the horizontal VAS I managed to do it by adding another argument to > VAS_DragScale so it looks like this: > > Function VAS_DragScale(c As Context, strAttributeName as string, Optional > duration as Variant, *Optional strSliderDirection as Variant*) as Integer > > and than inside the function i added the following: > > 'set mouse cursor at left right or center position > If IsMissing(strSliderDirection) then > Mouse.SetCursorPos > 0.5*(VAS_SliderDummy.Left+VAS_SliderDummy.Right), VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom > else > if strSliderDirection = "left" then > Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Left, VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom > else > if strSliderDirection = "right" then > Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Right, > VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom > end if > end if > End If > > and in the trials I use an inline to tell the needle where to start. > That went fine but when I try to implement it in the vertical VAS it > always starts from the bottom of the slider dummy text object, > I guess it is got to do with the fact that to create the vertical vas I > just changed the slide text object (VAS_SliderDummy) dimensions, in the > script basically changes every X to Y and vice versa, and every > Object.Right to Object.Bottom and every Object.Left to Object.Top . > So for example my changes to the script above looks like this: > > 'set mouse cursor at up down or center position > If IsMissing(strSliderDirection1) then > Mouse.SetCursorPos > 0.5*(VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom+VAS_SliderDummy.Top), VAS_SliderDummy.Left > else > if strSliderDirection1 = "top" then > Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Top, VAS_SliderDummy.Left > else > if strSliderDirection1 = "bottom" then > Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom, > VAS_SliderDummy.Left > end if > end if > End If > > As I mentioned it doesn't work. > If anyone got a clue I will be greatfull! > I attached the whole experiment if someone needs it and I would like to > thank Paul again for the original script. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/1af07bf2-5f71-4f20-baa4-3c0acb57543d%40googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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Avraham On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:40:48 PM UTC+3, Paul Groot wrote: > > Hi, > > Well, I'm not able to double check this right now, but SetCursosPos > accepts X,Y coordinates (in that order) by definition. Using Slider.Bottom > for X and Slider.Left for Y, etc. doesn't make sense... > > Shouldn't it be something like this?: > > if strSliderDirection1 = "bottom" then > Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Left, > VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom > end if > > > > > On 18 June 2013 17:31, avraham niv > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> First I would really like to thank Paul for the script for the VAS it's >> great! >> In my experiment I need to use the VAS both horizontally and vertically, >> and i need the needle starting position to be at the left and right edges >> (and not like Paul's VAS in the center). >> For the horizontal VAS I managed to do it by adding another argument to >> VAS_DragScale so it looks like this: >> >> Function VAS_DragScale(c As Context, strAttributeName as string, Optional >> duration as Variant, *Optional strSliderDirection as Variant*) as Integer >> >> and than inside the function i added the following: >> >> 'set mouse cursor at left right or center position >> If IsMissing(strSliderDirection) then >> Mouse.SetCursorPos >> 0.5*(VAS_SliderDummy.Left+VAS_SliderDummy.Right), VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom >> else >> if strSliderDirection = "left" then >> Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Left, >> VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom >> else >> if strSliderDirection = "right" then >> Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Right, >> VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom >> end if >> end if >> End If >> >> and in the trials I use an inline to tell the needle where to start. >> That went fine but when I try to implement it in the vertical VAS it >> always starts from the bottom of the slider dummy text object, >> I guess it is got to do with the fact that to create the vertical vas I >> just changed the slide text object (VAS_SliderDummy) dimensions, in the >> script basically changes every X to Y and vice versa, and every >> Object.Right to Object.Bottom and every Object.Left to Object.Top . >> So for example my changes to the script above looks like this: >> >> 'set mouse cursor at up down or center position >> If IsMissing(strSliderDirection1) then >> Mouse.SetCursorPos >> 0.5*(VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom+VAS_SliderDummy.Top), VAS_SliderDummy.Left >> else >> if strSliderDirection1 = "top" then >> Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Top, VAS_SliderDummy.Left >> else >> if strSliderDirection1 = "bottom" then >> Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom, >> VAS_SliderDummy.Left >> end if >> end if >> End If >> >> As I mentioned it doesn't work. >> If anyone got a clue I will be greatfull! >> I attached the whole experiment if someone needs it and I would like to >> thank Paul again for the original script. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com >> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/1af07bf2-5f71-4f20-baa4-3c0acb57543d%40googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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(using the keyboard works well, it is not a question of the sequence Ideas? thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/862f2640-4b1a-460e-8f94-84b2f2eb297d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christina.tzeng at gmail.com Wed Jun 26 19:33:41 2013 From: christina.tzeng at gmail.com (Sound Experiment) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:33:41 -0700 Subject: Logging response times after stimulus presentation Message-ID: Hello, For each experimental trial, I am presenting a sound file and pictorial images simultaneously. Participants will be making a button box response upon hearing the sound file (while the images remain on the screen). I would like participants' response times to begin logging after the sound file ends. Is there anything I should do in my script to ensure this? The sound files vary in length. Thank you, Christina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/8320da90-5293-4b4a-b18f-8b125b667003%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kmorowsky at gmail.com Wed Jun 26 20:02:58 2013 From: kmorowsky at gmail.com (Katarina Morowsky) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:02:58 -0700 Subject: Image Buttons Going To Labels Message-ID: Hello, I am trying to create a slide with two buttons (made from images). One button (named Another) will take you back to the practice list and the other button (named Proceed) will proceed to the instructions for the first task. If you click anywhere outside the buttons you will stay on the screen. I have created a code that directs where you go via labels. My code to stay on the screen works fine. The code that recognizes the images as buttons also works. The problem I am running into is the locations that the buttons go to... With the current code when I click on both the "Another" and "Proceed" buttons I end up at Label 3. I tried switching what image corresponds to each label (i.e. Another going to Label11 and Proceed going to Label3) to see if the problem was in the Elseif statement, but then both buttons ended up at Label11. Would anyone know how to have each button go to their intended location? Thank you, Katie _________________________________________________________________________ 'Designate "theState" as the Default Slide State, which is the 'current ActiveState on the Slide object "morepractice". Dim theState As SlideState Set theState = morepractice.States("Default") Dim theSlideImage As SlideImage Dim strHit As String Dim theMouseResponseData As MouseResponseData 'Was there a response? If morepractice.InputMasks.Responses.Count > 0 Then debug.print "Line 16" 'Get the mouse response. Set theMouseResponseData = CMouseResponseData(morepractice.InputMasks.Responses(1)) 'Determine string name of SlideImage object at 'mouse click coordinates. Assign that value to strHit strHit = theState.HitTest(theMouseResponseData.CursorX, theMouseResponseData.CursorY) 'If you hit image for Another Practice Trial you will go to a label before the practice list' If strHit = "Another" Then Sleep 350 GoTo Label3 'If you hit the image for Proceed to Task1 you will go to a label before the intro slide for Task1' ElseIf strHit = "Proceed" Then Sleep 350 GoTo Label11 'If you hit anywhere else on the screen you will stay at that screen' Else GoTo Label4 End If End If Set theMouseResponseData = Nothing Mouse.ShowCursor False -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/ec9337a2-41a6-4927-87ec-fcbf6d67f158%40googlegroups.com. 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Thanks and best Katrin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/111607ba-b5c0-4942-acd0-38857e527ea2%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katrinheimann at gmail.com Mon Jun 3 13:56:46 2013 From: katrinheimann at gmail.com (KatrinH Heimann) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 15:56:46 +0200 Subject: Random Photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Mike, I am sorry, but I don't see your problem. Normally, in a list, you put under a stimulus attribute the name of a photo-file. Thus you create as many lines of the list as you wanna have trials, filling them with the filenames you attend to use. Then you randomize this list. In the trialprocedure in the pictureslide you then just have to refer to this attribute (for example [picture]) (so where you would normally write the name of the file, you now write [picture] and eprime will look in the attribute of the trial it is running right now to determine the filename. This is all very well explained in the Eprime basic help.. Or did I get your question wrongly? Best Katrin 2013/6/3 > I am designing a study where I need to put faces into a trial list and > then randomly present them. I have done some work before with E-Prime and > from what I have seen the only way you can randomize is through a Trial > list. Therefore, how would I be able to put photos into the program and > present them randomly. I've read some pages about nested list but I still > can't actually get the photo! > > Thank you!! > > -Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/bff5a0de-c014-4fc0-9ce3-80ad4a315187%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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However, my participants have clinical attention deficits, therefore presenting all options at once would be too distracting and is thus not a viable idea. Is there a way to create a drop-down box? If not, what work-around solutions come to mind? One hypothetical idea I have is to create an in-line script pausing E-prime and allowing a switch to MS Excel (where I can create a drop down menu in a file) before returning to E-prime. The duration of such subject-paced pause would be a proxy (albeit very rough) for response latency. I don't know whether it is even feasible. Does anyone have experience with such an approach? Alternatively, could anyone recommend a response collection software that would be better suited for building drop-down menus? Any feedback or help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you kindly, Yuliya Yoncheva PS: So far the experiments I have programmed have focused on millisecond temporal precision on the presentation side (which I know is E-prime's strength), and not flexibility on the response collection interface (which I gather is not an emphasis in this particular software). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/dc11ba10-f239-435c-9518-89bc262e82a6%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikes22091 at gmail.com Tue Jun 4 13:36:50 2013 From: mikes22091 at gmail.com (mikes22091 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 06:36:50 -0700 Subject: Random Photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Katrin, I know how to do all that I guess the only problem I am having is getting to photo in through the file name what should I be looking for to input the file? An address or the name of the file? Thanks so much for the reply! On Monday, June 3, 2013 9:40:06 AM UTC-4, mikes... at gmail.com wrote: > > I am designing a study where I need to put faces into a trial list and > then randomly present them. I have done some work before with E-Prime and > from what I have seen the only way you can randomize is through a Trial > list. Therefore, how would I be able to put photos into the program and > present them randomly. I've read some pages about nested list but I still > can't actually get the photo! > > Thank you!! > > -Mike > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/d094e13a-effd-4c41-ae11-da16cb4529a2%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katrinheimann at gmail.com Tue Jun 4 13:46:26 2013 From: katrinheimann at gmail.com (KatrinH Heimann) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 15:46:26 +0200 Subject: Random Photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Mike, you have to put the filename in the listobject. Then the file should be in the same folder than your experiment :) Cheers Katrin 2013/6/4 > Katrin, > > I know how to do all that I guess the only problem I am having is getting > to photo in through the file name what should I be looking for to input the > file? An address or the name of the file? Thanks so much for the reply! > > > On Monday, June 3, 2013 9:40:06 AM UTC-4, mikes... at gmail.com wrote: >> >> I am designing a study where I need to put faces into a trial list and >> then randomly present them. I have done some work before with E-Prime and >> from what I have seen the only way you can randomize is through a Trial >> list. Therefore, how would I be able to put photos into the program and >> present them randomly. I've read some pages about nested list but I still >> can't actually get the photo! >> >> Thank you!! >> >> -Mike >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/d094e13a-effd-4c41-ae11-da16cb4529a2%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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Subject will have to press a button on a SRbox only to one specific digit (target ) while they don't have to press buttons to other digits. The problem is that the responses are not collected by EP after the duration of 200ms of the stimulus (I would like to allow a time limit of 800ms after the appearence of the target), I tried to extend timeLimit for the SRbox input but the response will not be recorded. The experiment is divided in TrialList (list of digits presented in a random order), TrialProc with: Inline (to randomize the duration of fixation) / Fixation / Stimuli (with 200 of duration and timeLimit to 800 but EP doesn't collect responses after the 200ms of the stimulus). Can you help me? Thank you PM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/e491bda7-75d7-48e4-83bc-c75905202482%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katrinheimann at gmail.com Tue Jun 4 14:00:44 2013 From: katrinheimann at gmail.com (KatrinH Heimann) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:00:44 +0200 Subject: Collect responses after target disappeared...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ciao PierCarlo, Two possibilities come to my mind a) why not just putting another slide of 800 ms length after your stimulus slide. Just a black textslide I mean. Just make this slide also collect responses, but terminate always after 800 ms. This has the disadvantage of course that the trial does not end with the response. But maybe this is not the problem If it is a problem I would make a short movieclip instead of the textslide-stimulus. That would mean filming a digit for the 200 ms (or putting frames of a picture in a movieformat to fill 200 ms, and then add another 800 ms of black in the movie. This movie can act as the stimulus and you can make the slide end with the response of the subject. Was that of any help? Katrin 2013/6/4 Piercarlo Mauri > Hello, > I'm new to this group and also to e-prime software, so please excuse me if > the question will sound simple to you...I tried to find a solution online > without any results... > I'm creating my first experiment in e-prime and will be a continous > performance test (CPT), a series of digits will be presented each one for > 200ms with a variable ISI between 800-2000 ms. Subject will have to press a > button on a SRbox only to one specific digit (target ) while they don't > have to press buttons to other digits. The problem is that the responses > are not collected by EP after the duration of 200ms of the stimulus (I > would like to allow a time limit of 800ms after the appearence of the > target), I tried to extend timeLimit for the SRbox input but the response > will not be recorded. > The experiment is divided in TrialList (list of digits presented in a > random order), TrialProc with: Inline (to randomize the duration of > fixation) / Fixation / Stimuli (with 200 of duration and timeLimit to 800 > but EP doesn't collect responses after the 200ms of the stimulus). Can you > help me? > Thank you > PM > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/e491bda7-75d7-48e4-83bc-c75905202482%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/CACnHcBes2-LaRrTjxuHri%2BxfvC%3DwfXeSOULpmxChUd4rR6gA4w%40mail.gmail.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From piercarlo.mauri at gmail.com Tue Jun 4 14:39:57 2013 From: piercarlo.mauri at gmail.com (Piercarlo Mauri) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 07:39:57 -0700 Subject: Collect responses after target disappeared...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for your reply, I tried to use slide after the target with a duration of 800ms showing a fixation point and I reduced the first fixation to 0-1200, in this way the subject will have 200ms of the stimulus + 800ms of the other slide to respond and it seems to work, but do I have to set time limit in the stimulus slide to 1000ms in order to allow a response in the stimulus slide (200 ms) and also in the next slide (800ms)? Will the reaction time be recorded also if the subject press the button during the stimulus or during the next slide? Il giorno marted? 4 giugno 2013 16:00:44 UTC+2, Katrin ha scritto: > > Ciao PierCarlo, > > Two possibilities come to my mind > a) why not just putting another slide of 800 ms length after your stimulus > slide. Just a black textslide I mean. Just make this slide also collect > responses, but terminate always after 800 ms. This has the disadvantage of > course that the trial does not end with the response. But maybe this is not > the problem > If it is a problem I would make a short movieclip instead of the > textslide-stimulus. That would mean filming a digit for the 200 ms (or > putting frames of a picture in a movieformat to fill 200 ms, and then add > another 800 ms of black in the movie. This movie can act as the stimulus > and you can make the slide end with the response of the subject. Was that > of any help? > Katrin > > > 2013/6/4 Piercarlo Mauri > > >> Hello, >> I'm new to this group and also to e-prime software, so please excuse me >> if the question will sound simple to you...I tried to find a solution >> online without any results... >> I'm creating my first experiment in e-prime and will be a continous >> performance test (CPT), a series of digits will be presented each one for >> 200ms with a variable ISI between 800-2000 ms. Subject will have to press a >> button on a SRbox only to one specific digit (target ) while they don't >> have to press buttons to other digits. The problem is that the responses >> are not collected by EP after the duration of 200ms of the stimulus (I >> would like to allow a time limit of 800ms after the appearence of the >> target), I tried to extend timeLimit for the SRbox input but the response >> will not be recorded. >> The experiment is divided in TrialList (list of digits presented in a >> random order), TrialProc with: Inline (to randomize the duration of >> fixation) / Fixation / Stimuli (with 200 of duration and timeLimit to 800 >> but EP doesn't collect responses after the 200ms of the stimulus). Can you >> help me? >> Thank you >> PM >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com >> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/e491bda7-75d7-48e4-83bc-c75905202482%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/05cf31d9-37a5-4254-9005-96f55851baa2%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pfc.groot at gmail.com Tue Jun 4 16:14:39 2013 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 18:14:39 +0200 Subject: Creating a drop-down menu with options for subjects' responses? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yuliya, Linking another application (like excel) wouldn't be a very reliable method, I'm afraid (not even sure if that would be possible). You could implement such an interface in eprime by using a series of bitmap images that mimic a fancy GUI on subject responses. When a lot of different images are required (because of dynamic content for example) you could also use inline script to generate the screen contents. However, EPrime only offers basic drawing support, so that might suboptimal. I sometimes combine elementary graphics (drawn by inline script) with a fancy bitmap as background image. If you would like to implement mouse-clicks (instead of keyboard presses), you definitively have to deal with inline scripting. (You could have a look at the following example script: http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/84-full-scripts/74-tower-of-hanoi.html) On the other hand: if timing is not extremely critical, you could also use a more GUI-oriented programming environment (such as Visual Basic, or something similar). Best Paul On 4 June 2013 01:00, Yuliya Yoncheva wrote: > Greetings E-prime experts, > > I am programming an experiment in E-prime 2.0 Professional, in which the > optimal way to collect participants' responses would be to have them select > 1 out of 10 options from a drop-down menu. > > (e.g., a subject needs to choose between "$10 in a week" or "$1 or $2 or > $3 ... immediately." It is argued that offering selection from a drop-down > menu promotes more careful consideration of each option.) > > The closest example I found in the E-prime Samples database on pstnet.com was > the Visual Analog scale, which would enable on-screen presentation of all > options simultaneously (e.g., as 10 individual boxes), and allow the > subject to click on the box of their choice. However, my participants have > clinical attention deficits, therefore presenting all options at once would > be too distracting and is thus not a viable idea. > > Is there a way to create a drop-down box? If not, what work-around > solutions come to mind? > > One hypothetical idea I have is to create an in-line script pausing > E-prime and allowing a switch to MS Excel (where I can create a drop down > menu in a file) before returning to E-prime. The duration of such > subject-paced pause would be a proxy (albeit very rough) for response > latency. > > I don't know whether it is even feasible. Does anyone have experience with > such an approach? Alternatively, could anyone recommend a response > collection software that would be better suited for building drop-down > menus? > > Any feedback or help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you kindly, > Yuliya Yoncheva > > PS: So far the experiments I have programmed have focused on millisecond > temporal precision on the presentation side (which I know is E-prime's > strength), and not flexibility on the response collection interface (which > I gather is not an emphasis in this particular software). > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/dc11ba10-f239-435c-9518-89bc262e82a6%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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In case two you would have to add 200 ms to make up for that. Is that clear enough? Best Katrin 2013/6/4 Piercarlo Mauri > Thanks for your reply, > I tried to use slide after the target with a duration of 800ms showing a > fixation point and I reduced the first fixation to 0-1200, in this way the > subject will have 200ms of the stimulus + 800ms of the other slide to > respond and it seems to work, but do I have to set time limit in the > stimulus slide to 1000ms in order to allow a response in the stimulus slide > (200 ms) and also in the next slide (800ms)? Will the reaction time be > recorded also if the subject press the button during the stimulus or during > the next slide? > > > > Il giorno marted? 4 giugno 2013 16:00:44 UTC+2, Katrin ha scritto: >> >> Ciao PierCarlo, >> >> Two possibilities come to my mind >> a) why not just putting another slide of 800 ms length after your >> stimulus slide. Just a black textslide I mean. Just make this slide also >> collect responses, but terminate always after 800 ms. This has the >> disadvantage of course that the trial does not end with the response. But >> maybe this is not the problem >> If it is a problem I would make a short movieclip instead of the >> textslide-stimulus. That would mean filming a digit for the 200 ms (or >> putting frames of a picture in a movieformat to fill 200 ms, and then add >> another 800 ms of black in the movie. This movie can act as the stimulus >> and you can make the slide end with the response of the subject. Was that >> of any help? >> Katrin >> >> >> 2013/6/4 Piercarlo Mauri >> >>> Hello, >>> I'm new to this group and also to e-prime software, so please excuse me >>> if the question will sound simple to you...I tried to find a solution >>> online without any results... >>> I'm creating my first experiment in e-prime and will be a continous >>> performance test (CPT), a series of digits will be presented each one for >>> 200ms with a variable ISI between 800-2000 ms. Subject will have to press a >>> button on a SRbox only to one specific digit (target ) while they don't >>> have to press buttons to other digits. The problem is that the responses >>> are not collected by EP after the duration of 200ms of the stimulus (I >>> would like to allow a time limit of 800ms after the appearence of the >>> target), I tried to extend timeLimit for the SRbox input but the response >>> will not be recorded. >>> The experiment is divided in TrialList (list of digits presented in a >>> random order), TrialProc with: Inline (to randomize the duration of >>> fixation) / Fixation / Stimuli (with 200 of duration and timeLimit to 800 >>> but EP doesn't collect responses after the 200ms of the stimulus). Can you >>> help me? >>> Thank you >>> PM >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "E-Prime" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to e-prime+u...@**googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com. >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** >>> msgid/e-prime/e491bda7-75d7-**48e4-83bc-c75905202482%** >>> 40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/05cf31d9-37a5-4254-9005-96f55851baa2%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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Best wishes, Yuliya On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 12:14:39 PM UTC-4, Paul Groot wrote: > > Yuliya, > > Linking another application (like excel) wouldn't be a very reliable > method, I'm afraid (not even sure if that would be possible). > > You could implement such an interface in eprime by using a series of > bitmap images that mimic a fancy GUI on subject responses. When a lot of > different images are required (because of dynamic content for example) you > could also use inline script to generate the screen contents. However, > EPrime only offers basic drawing support, so that might suboptimal. I > sometimes combine elementary graphics (drawn by inline script) with a fancy > bitmap as background image. If you would like to implement mouse-clicks > (instead of keyboard presses), you definitively have to deal with inline > scripting. (You could have a look at the following example script: > http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/84-full-scripts/74-tower-of-hanoi.html) > > On the other hand: if timing is not extremely critical, you could also use > a more GUI-oriented programming environment (such as Visual Basic, or > something similar). > > Best > Paul > > > On 4 June 2013 01:00, Yuliya Yoncheva >wrote: > >> Greetings E-prime experts, >> >> I am programming an experiment in E-prime 2.0 Professional, in which the >> optimal way to collect participants' responses would be to have them select >> 1 out of 10 options from a drop-down menu. >> >> (e.g., a subject needs to choose between "$10 in a week" or "$1 or $2 or >> $3 ... immediately." It is argued that offering selection from a drop-down >> menu promotes more careful consideration of each option.) >> >> The closest example I found in the E-prime Samples database on pstnet.com was >> the Visual Analog scale, which would enable on-screen presentation of all >> options simultaneously (e.g., as 10 individual boxes), and allow the >> subject to click on the box of their choice. However, my participants have >> clinical attention deficits, therefore presenting all options at once would >> be too distracting and is thus not a viable idea. >> >> Is there a way to create a drop-down box? If not, what work-around >> solutions come to mind? >> >> One hypothetical idea I have is to create an in-line script pausing >> E-prime and allowing a switch to MS Excel (where I can create a drop down >> menu in a file) before returning to E-prime. The duration of such >> subject-paced pause would be a proxy (albeit very rough) for response >> latency. >> >> I don't know whether it is even feasible. Does anyone have experience >> with such an approach? Alternatively, could anyone recommend a response >> collection software that would be better suited for building drop-down >> menus? >> >> Any feedback or help would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thank you kindly, >> Yuliya Yoncheva >> >> PS: So far the experiments I have programmed have focused on millisecond >> temporal precision on the presentation side (which I know is E-prime's >> strength), and not flexibility on the response collection interface (which >> I gather is not an emphasis in this particular software). >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com >> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/dc11ba10-f239-435c-9518-89bc262e82a6%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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There are four different conditions: Same object same size (SOSS), same object different size (SODS), different object different size (DODS), and different object same size (DOSS). Also, across these conditions, there are four different objects: A, B, C, and D. For each object category there are 6 exemplars. The paradigm is a simple one-back task indicating if the two objects in the trial are same or not (Fixation --> Object 1 --> Mask --> object 2 --> mask --> response). Each block should contain 24 trials that have equal number of objects varying across the conditions. That is to say that each trial must have all four conditions but use equal amounts of objects within these conditions to fulfill that requirement. The sequence of presentation must all be randomized and counterbalanced. For example, block 1 may have the following sequence depicting different conditions: A (SOSS) C (SODS) D (SOSS) B (DOSS) D (DODS) C (DOSS) B (SODS) A (DODS) There would be three blocks like this one in a given set with randomized stimuli without repeats (total of 24 trials) and four different sets for a complete total of 96 trials. As you can see, each object within its respective condition only occurs once across the blocks. In total there are 2 of each conditions and 2 of each objects but the combination of each occurs only once. When I try to program this in e-prime, I could randomize the selection of each object with their respective conditions and limit it to choosing only 2 samples. However, I cannot ensure that across the 3 blocks the same object from the same condition does not show up. I know there must be someway to accomplish this in e-prime...only if knew :( I hope the above makes sense.... 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That is, the keyboard is not even chosen as > a possible response device. Nevertheless, eprime accepts the spacebar as a > possible response and terminates the slide with this response. Any idea why > this happens/how to avoid this? > Thanks and best > Katrin > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/514fb035-1f7e-49a2-b9c3-84674f39ad87%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here I create counting variables "count_n" and "count_b", set them to 0, then set the Attributes "total_n" and "total_b"which are scripted so that during the "Either" condition when "n" is selected "total_n" should reference "count_n" and add one (+1); when"b" is selected "total_b" should reference "count_b" and add one (+1). In the user script: ' Block choice variable Dim count_n As Integer Dim count_b As Integer Dim total_n As Integer Dim total_b As Integer In FirstTrialITI: (bit of Inline script, I believe it repeats after each trial) count_n = 0 count_b = 0 In TMS: (InLine script that runs a block) ' choice_selection count_n = count_n +1 count_b = count_b +1 If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("n"))) Then c.SetAttrib "total_n", count_n End If If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("b"))) Then c.SetAttrib "total_b", count_b End If I can see in the data file it creates columns for "total_b" and "total_n", but it counts them together! total_b total_n 1 NULL NULL 2 3 NULL I also tried this piece of code, but "total_b" and "total_n" were still counted together: If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("n"))) Then c.SetAttrib "total_n", count_n Else If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("b"))) Then c.SetAttrib "total_b", count_b End If End If Furthermore, when I try to present the separate counts in a text object at the end of each block by typing [total_b] and [total_n] Eprime says "no such attribute". I hope this made some sense, but will answer any questions that you may have. Thanks a lot for any help. Best, Kelsey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/dd2080cf-91a7-4c9c-ad4f-9050678d1a48%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kelsey.leigh.carlson at gmail.com Wed Jun 5 13:47:58 2013 From: kelsey.leigh.carlson at gmail.com (kelsey.leigh.carlson at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 06:47:58 -0700 Subject: displaying response count at end of block Message-ID: Hi all, In my experiment there is a condition where the subject can choice between two responses (either "n" or "b" key presses). I want to keep track of how many times the participant selects each key (n or b) and present a total for each key type at the end of each block. I've inserted my code here showing how I am counting response selection. As you can see I am setting two separate attributes: c.SetAttrib "total_b" and c.SetAttrib "total_n". I've tried to reference these attributes later in a Text Object, but E prime says, "no such attribute". ' choice_selection If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("n"))) Then count_n = count_n +1 Else If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("b"))) Then count_b = count_b +1 End If End If If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("n"))) Then c.SetAttrib "total_n", count_n Else If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("b"))) Then c.SetAttrib "total_b", count_b End If End If If there is anything I can clarify please let me know. Thanks for your time and answers. Best, Kelsey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/d793497f-2420-4ba5-ac54-369c056b3680%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. 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Thanks for the time, Dazed & Confused (Diana) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/2f06ccc2-8991-443a-bca2-eb11cc4daac3%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edgarmesquita at hotmail.com Wed Jun 5 16:53:03 2013 From: edgarmesquita at hotmail.com (Edgar Mesquita) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 17:53:03 +0100 Subject: Co-Author partnership - Statistical Analysis Message-ID: Hello, I'd like to offer statistical advise/ analysis to all group members in exchange of paper co-authorship. If some of you are having trouble with statistical analysis, and have interest in this partnership please let me know. Best regards Edgar -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/BAY404-EAS284183513BBBD5D393F0410B99F0%40phx.gbl?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikes22091 at gmail.com Wed Jun 5 17:59:20 2013 From: mikes22091 at gmail.com (mikes22091 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 10:59:20 -0700 Subject: Random Photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you so much for all your help! I figured it all out you were a great help!!! I just have one more question now if I have say 60 pictures appearing randomly and I want a question to appear after each one how would I do that? does it have to do with nesting list? Thank you I promise this is my last question! :) -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/f95306c7-8c76-41ed-89c3-eb3583edb6db%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katrinheimann at gmail.com Wed Jun 5 18:46:31 2013 From: katrinheimann at gmail.com (KatrinH Heimann) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 20:46:31 +0200 Subject: Random Photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ehm, well, just put a textslide after the pictureslide? do you want the question also always to be different? then you have to work with another listattribute and a small inline... best katrin 2013/6/5 > Thank you so much for all your help! I figured it all out you were a great > help!!! I just have one more question now if I have say 60 pictures > appearing randomly and I want a question to appear after each one how would > I do that? does it have to do with nesting list? > > Thank you I promise this is my last question! :) > > > -Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/f95306c7-8c76-41ed-89c3-eb3583edb6db%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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If so it will sample without replacement until it reaches the value specified by ResetList at which point it will start over from the full list. This could produce the problem you describe. On 05/06/2013 17:39, Diana wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a memory task that displays a series of images in different > locations on the screen. The participant is expected to remember the > image and its location, so when the images are pulled randomly from a > nested list, the participant can match the image to the original > location. > > The problem I am encountering involves the random pulling of images to > be matched. I need this to happen without replacement, but even with > the selection order set to 'random', I'm having at least one image > being pulled twice and one image not pulled at all. > > I have no idea how to fix this problem. Is there anyone that can share > some insight? > Thanks for the time, > Dazed & Confused (Diana) > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/2f06ccc2-8991-443a-bca2-eb11cc4daac3%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- David Vinson, Ph.D. ESRC Research Fellow Cognitive, Perceptual and Brain Sciences Research Department University College London 26 Bedford Way, London WC1H 0AP Tel +44 (0)20 7679 5311 (UCL internal ext. 25311) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/51B05133.1030007%40ucl.ac.uk?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From hollysully at gmail.com Thu Jun 6 16:02:08 2013 From: hollysully at gmail.com (free_operant_task) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 09:02:08 -0700 Subject: Response bar updated by multiple presses Message-ID: Hi, I hope someone can help and apologies in advance for my elementary coding skills. I am trying to create a response bar (drawn by the canvas function) that is incrementally filled by each button press (each of the multiple button presses required for an individual trial). I have tried to combine the ScoreBar and MultipleResponseCollection sample scripts from the PST eprime support site. I want the number of presses required to be randomly determined by an attribute called MaxCount (which is set by RewardProb) at the beginning of each trial. Eventually, the duration of each trial will also vary depending on RewardProb (this bit works well in another script I have). I am attaching the script that I have so far. It seems to be partially working. When the number of presses set by the attribute MaxCount is reached, the trial terminates as it should, however, there is a substantial delay before the response bar starts filling. Also, I would like the canvas to be cleared of all images after each trial (because the next thing I am going to work on is making the size of the response bar variable on each trial). But for now, I would greatly appreciate any help with getting a response bar that fills with each press on a single trial and clears after the trial is finished. 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Name: EffortBar_FreeOp_6.6.13.es2 Type: application/octet-stream Size: 69683 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hollysully at gmail.com Thu Jun 6 19:55:42 2013 From: hollysully at gmail.com (free_operant_task) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 12:55:42 -0700 Subject: displaying response count at end of block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Kelsey, Have you defined the attribute globally on the user tab of the generated script? To count across multiple blocks or reference the counter variable at the highest level of the task, you need to define the variable on the user tab of the script. I can send an example scirpt where I have used counter variables like these, if you like. Hope this helps, Holly On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 9:47:58 AM UTC-4, kelsey.lei... at gmail.com wrote: > > Hi all, > In my experiment there is a condition where the subject can choice > between two responses (either "n" or "b" key presses). I want to keep track > of how many times the participant selects each key (n or b) and present a > total for each key type at the end of each block. I've inserted my code > here showing how I am counting response selection. As you can see I am > setting two separate attributes: c.SetAttrib "total_b" and c.SetAttrib > "total_n". I've tried to reference these attributes later in a Text Object, > but E prime says, "no such attribute". > > ' choice_selection > If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("n"))) Then > count_n = count_n +1 > Else If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("b"))) Then > count_b = count_b +1 > End If > End If > > If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("n"))) Then > c.SetAttrib "total_n", count_n > Else If ((c.GetAttrib("Cue") = "E") And (currentresponse = ("b"))) Then > c.SetAttrib "total_b", count_b > End If > End If > > If there is anything I can clarify please let me know. Thanks for your > time and answers. > Best, > Kelsey > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/f0f238de-39a9-49d8-956f-1e5f1a459978%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kelsey.leigh.carlson at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 10:16:33 2013 From: kelsey.leigh.carlson at gmail.com (kelsey.leigh.carlson at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 03:16:33 -0700 Subject: displaying response count at end of block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Holly, Thanks for the question/help. In the user script I've already written: Dim count_n As Integer Dim count_b As Integer Dim total_n As Integer Dim total_b As Integer During an inter trial interval I set these counters to 0 count_n = 0 count_b = 0 Then of course the script I've posted already which runs during the main body of the experiment. In the data file I can read something like this: total_n total_b NULL 1 1 NULL NULL 2 So it is being recorded correctly in the data file. I hope this information makes what I'm trying to do clearer. Best, Kelsey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/3f6ba702-a2af-4cc7-a08a-db567c72f6b2%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From susangc7 at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 11:34:53 2013 From: susangc7 at gmail.com (Susan Campbell) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 04:34:53 -0700 Subject: displaying response count at end of block In-Reply-To: <3f6ba702-a2af-4cc7-a08a-db567c72f6b2@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Kelsey, It sounds like you're running into a common problem people have with E-Prime: understanding the difference between variables and attributes. By defining something in the user script, you're declaring it as a variable, not an attribute. Attributes show up in lists and data files; variables don't. You also seem to have a scope issue on the attribute, which is making things more complicated. What's confusing here is that E-Prime is trying to help you out by creating attributes when you use c.setattrib -- so you now have a total_n attribute as well as a variable, and that's what gets logged in the data file. But that attrbiute only exists in the lowest-level list that's running when E-Prime creates it. I would guess that your attempt to display the counts is outside that list. Alternatively, if you didn't fall into that trap, you're trying to use the variable, which you've actually never assigned a value to. The first thing to try is to create an attribute in the list that's above the one you're setting the value in (the list that's running when you try to display the value at the end), and then let it set the value in that list. Or you could just keep track of those totals in the global variable you already have (if you don't care about logging as you go) and then log them in an inline after the list. HTH, Susan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/23616f29-c2cc-4093-811d-125c12e74f41%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From pfc.groot at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 16:41:33 2013 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 18:41:33 +0200 Subject: Response bar updated by multiple presses In-Reply-To: <470f1db1-0c3a-4542-9c9c-1fd114c0a0cc@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: hi, It seems that you now have a stimulus screen (with a static contents) that stays on screen until all presses are collected. Then, when the Stimulus object finishes, you start an inline script that processes all past button presses. If you would like to update the bar immediately after each button press, you need a different construct. I think it would be very similar to the code I used in my VAS example script: http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/83-example-scripts/80-visual-analogue-scale-example-for-e-prime.html (look at the DragScale function). Also note that you should set the duration of the Stimulus screen to zero, or set the prerelease to same as duration. Best Paul On 6 June 2013 18:02, free_operant_task wrote: > Hi, > > I hope someone can help and apologies in advance for my elementary coding > skills. > > I am trying to create a response bar (drawn by the canvas function) that > is incrementally filled by each button press (each of the multiple button > presses required for an individual trial). I have tried to combine the > ScoreBar and MultipleResponseCollection sample scripts from the PST eprime > support site. I want the number of presses required to be randomly > determined by an attribute called MaxCount (which is set by RewardProb) at > the beginning of each trial. Eventually, the duration of each trial will > also vary depending on RewardProb (this bit works well in another script I > have). > > I am attaching the script that I have so far. It seems to be partially > working. When the number of presses set by the attribute MaxCount is > reached, the trial terminates as it should, however, there is a substantial > delay before the response bar starts filling. Also, I would like the canvas > to be cleared of all images after each trial (because the next thing I am > going to work on is making the size of the response bar variable on each > trial). But for now, I would greatly appreciate any help with getting a > response bar that fills with each press on a single trial and clears after > the trial is finished. > > Many thanks in advance if you can help! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/470f1db1-0c3a-4542-9c9c-1fd114c0a0cc%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/CAKAdR-t1KMTfiJTkwUOAqZDh70vvqzQkUN3yznGAUiKSubhL5w%40mail.gmail.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hollysully at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 19:27:38 2013 From: hollysully at gmail.com (free_operant_task) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 12:27:38 -0700 Subject: Response bar updated by multiple presses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Paul, Thanks for your reply and for sharing your VAS script. I seem to be having some trouble adding the VAS.epk2 package. When I go to Experiment Object Properties >> Add the package is not given as an option to be added. Do you have any suggestions? Is the package soemthing I have to purchase to activate? Many thanks for your help. ~Holly On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:41:33 PM UTC-4, Paul Groot wrote: > > hi, > > It seems that you now have a stimulus screen (with a static contents) that > stays on screen until all presses are collected. Then, when the Stimulus > object finishes, you start an inline script that processes all past button > presses. If you would like to update the bar immediately after each button > press, you need a different construct. I think it would be very similar to > the code I used in my VAS example script: > http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/83-example-scripts/80-visual-analogue-scale-example-for-e-prime.html > (look at the DragScale function). Also note that you should set the > duration of the Stimulus screen to zero, or set the prerelease to same as > duration. > > Best > Paul > > > > > On 6 June 2013 18:02, free_operant_task >wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I hope someone can help and apologies in advance for my elementary coding >> skills. >> >> I am trying to create a response bar (drawn by the canvas function) that >> is incrementally filled by each button press (each of the multiple button >> presses required for an individual trial). I have tried to combine the >> ScoreBar and MultipleResponseCollection sample scripts from the PST eprime >> support site. I want the number of presses required to be randomly >> determined by an attribute called MaxCount (which is set by RewardProb) at >> the beginning of each trial. Eventually, the duration of each trial will >> also vary depending on RewardProb (this bit works well in another script I >> have). >> >> I am attaching the script that I have so far. It seems to be partially >> working. When the number of presses set by the attribute MaxCount is >> reached, the trial terminates as it should, however, there is a substantial >> delay before the response bar starts filling. Also, I would like the canvas >> to be cleared of all images after each trial (because the next thing I am >> going to work on is making the size of the response bar variable on each >> trial). But for now, I would greatly appreciate any help with getting a >> response bar that fills with each press on a single trial and clears after >> the trial is finished. >> >> Many thanks in advance if you can help! >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com >> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/470f1db1-0c3a-4542-9c9c-1fd114c0a0cc%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/c040807d-867a-4dc0-b811-809ff9c35b05%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amy.vogel at gmail.com Sat Jun 8 17:44:18 2013 From: amy.vogel at gmail.com (Amy Vogel) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 10:44:18 -0700 Subject: Logging multiple responses to one slide (key press and voice onset) Message-ID: Dear Group: First, I want E-Prime to log the response latency through the mic. That is, when the subject initiated speech. I designed my procedure so that the slide will not advance when the subject initiates speech. The other issue is that I also want E-Prime to record logging information for key press. I mentioned before that the subject's verbal response does not drive the procedure forward; rather, a key press initiates the next part of the experiment. Apparently the new version of E-Prime has an issue with capturing inputs from two different sources at the same point in the procedure (e.g., from the mic [SR BOX] and from the keyboard). When I have played around with this, I have noticed that the procedure just freezes-- the key press does not drive the procedure forward like it should. >From what I have read, you can log dual responses (from the mic and keyboard), but E-Prime only logs information from the last input (e.g., the keyboard in my case because that is what advances the procedure, and the key press occurs after the mic input). I have looked at the following two posts to see how to modify the script to log information from both inputs, but I haven't gotten it to work. http://www.pstnet.com/forum/Topic355-5-1.aspx http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic474-8-1.aspx Thank you for your help. Let me know if there is anything else I can post that might be of assistance (e.g., aspects of the script). Amy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/9f9f021e-8bb4-45d2-b6ba-a251d3fbd49f%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pfc.groot at gmail.com Sat Jun 8 23:10:25 2013 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 01:10:25 +0200 Subject: Response bar updated by multiple presses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Packages should first be added to the default package directory (My Experiments/Packages), or put in a folder that you explicitly added to the package folder search list in EStudio. Then restart estudio and add it to your exp. However, to view the script I mentioned, you could open the package in the package editor instead. (EStudio will only show the package content only in the generated ebs-script.) ~paul On 7 June 2013 21:27, free_operant_task wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Thanks for your reply and for sharing your VAS script. I seem to be having > some trouble adding the VAS.epk2 package. When I go to Experiment Object > Properties >> Add the package is not given as an option to be added. Do you > have any suggestions? Is the package soemthing I have to purchase to > activate? > > Many thanks for your help. > > ~Holly > > > > On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:41:33 PM UTC-4, Paul Groot wrote: > >> hi, >> >> It seems that you now have a stimulus screen (with a static contents) >> that stays on screen until all presses are collected. Then, when the >> Stimulus object finishes, you start an inline script that processes all >> past button presses. If you would like to update the bar immediately after >> each button press, you need a different construct. I think it would be very >> similar to the code I used in my VAS example script: >> http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/83-**example-scripts/80-visual-** >> analogue-scale-example-for-e-**prime.html >> (look at the DragScale function). Also note that you should set the >> duration of the Stimulus screen to zero, or set the prerelease to same as >> duration. >> >> Best >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> On 6 June 2013 18:02, free_operant_task wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I hope someone can help and apologies in advance for my elementary >>> coding skills. >>> >>> I am trying to create a response bar (drawn by the canvas function) that >>> is incrementally filled by each button press (each of the multiple button >>> presses required for an individual trial). I have tried to combine the >>> ScoreBar and MultipleResponseCollection sample scripts from the PST eprime >>> support site. I want the number of presses required to be randomly >>> determined by an attribute called MaxCount (which is set by RewardProb) at >>> the beginning of each trial. Eventually, the duration of each trial will >>> also vary depending on RewardProb (this bit works well in another script I >>> have). >>> >>> I am attaching the script that I have so far. It seems to be partially >>> working. When the number of presses set by the attribute MaxCount is >>> reached, the trial terminates as it should, however, there is a substantial >>> delay before the response bar starts filling. Also, I would like the canvas >>> to be cleared of all images after each trial (because the next thing I am >>> going to work on is making the size of the response bar variable on each >>> trial). But for now, I would greatly appreciate any help with getting a >>> response bar that fills with each press on a single trial and clears after >>> the trial is finished. >>> >>> Many thanks in advance if you can help! >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "E-Prime" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to e-prime+u...@**googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com. >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** >>> msgid/e-prime/470f1db1-0c3a-**4542-9c9c-1fd114c0a0cc%** >>> 40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/c040807d-867a-4dc0-b811-809ff9c35b05%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/CAKAdR-u2tu74BXiHT6acMnuMOwQ74OXvY4ZeMe7C6ZJWzNrnnA%40mail.gmail.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hollysully at gmail.com Sat Jun 8 23:55:51 2013 From: hollysully at gmail.com (free_operant_task) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 16:55:51 -0700 Subject: Response bar updated by multiple presses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Paul, Thanks so much for all of your help. I have been playing with your script and I think it will be very useful in redesigning my task. Thanks for sharing! ~Holly On Saturday, June 8, 2013 7:10:25 PM UTC-4, Paul Groot wrote: > > Packages should first be added to the default package directory (My > Experiments/Packages), or put in a folder that you explicitly added to the > package folder search list in EStudio. Then restart estudio and add it to > your exp. However, to view the script I mentioned, you could open the > package in the package editor instead. (EStudio will only show the package > content only in the generated ebs-script.) > > ~paul > > > On 7 June 2013 21:27, free_operant_task >wrote: > >> Hi Paul, >> >> Thanks for your reply and for sharing your VAS script. I seem to be >> having some trouble adding the VAS.epk2 package. When I go to Experiment >> Object Properties >> Add the package is not given as an option to be added. >> Do you have any suggestions? Is the package soemthing I have to purchase to >> activate? >> >> Many thanks for your help. >> >> ~Holly >> >> >> >> On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:41:33 PM UTC-4, Paul Groot wrote: >> >>> hi, >>> >>> It seems that you now have a stimulus screen (with a static contents) >>> that stays on screen until all presses are collected. Then, when the >>> Stimulus object finishes, you start an inline script that processes all >>> past button presses. If you would like to update the bar immediately after >>> each button press, you need a different construct. I think it would be very >>> similar to the code I used in my VAS example script: >>> http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/83-**example-scripts/80-visual-** >>> analogue-scale-example-for-e-**prime.html >>> (look at the DragScale function). Also note that you should set the >>> duration of the Stimulus screen to zero, or set the prerelease to same as >>> duration. >>> >>> Best >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6 June 2013 18:02, free_operant_task wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I hope someone can help and apologies in advance for my elementary >>>> coding skills. >>>> >>>> I am trying to create a response bar (drawn by the canvas function) >>>> that is incrementally filled by each button press (each of the multiple >>>> button presses required for an individual trial). I have tried to combine >>>> the ScoreBar and MultipleResponseCollection sample scripts from the PST >>>> eprime support site. I want the number of presses required to be randomly >>>> determined by an attribute called MaxCount (which is set by RewardProb) at >>>> the beginning of each trial. Eventually, the duration of each trial will >>>> also vary depending on RewardProb (this bit works well in another script I >>>> have). >>>> >>>> I am attaching the script that I have so far. It seems to be partially >>>> working. When the number of presses set by the attribute MaxCount is >>>> reached, the trial terminates as it should, however, there is a substantial >>>> delay before the response bar starts filling. Also, I would like the canvas >>>> to be cleared of all images after each trial (because the next thing I am >>>> going to work on is making the size of the response bar variable on each >>>> trial). But for now, I would greatly appreciate any help with getting a >>>> response bar that fills with each press on a single trial and clears after >>>> the trial is finished. >>>> >>>> Many thanks in advance if you can help! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "E-Prime" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to e-prime+u...@**googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** >>>> msgid/e-prime/470f1db1-0c3a-**4542-9c9c-1fd114c0a0cc%** >>>> 40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com >> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/c040807d-867a-4dc0-b811-809ff9c35b05%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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I was wondering if there's a facility within E-Prime to set some sort of accuracy threshold in the conjunction search blocks such that if those blocks are too hard for participants (i.e. accuracy doesn't reach a certain level), the task will revert to the feature search version? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/3a961ebe-4e5e-451b-927d-cda5b3da5284%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From piercarlo.mauri at gmail.com Tue Jun 11 08:22:16 2013 From: piercarlo.mauri at gmail.com (Piercarlo Mauri) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 01:22:16 -0700 Subject: Collect responses after target disappeared...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry Katrin, you mean that in case of response during the second response slide (the fixation cross of 800ms) I would have to manually add 200ms to response time in the data? (in order to include the first 200ms slide on the total time of response). Is this the only possible method? Thank you PM Il giorno marted? 4 giugno 2013 18:46:14 UTC+2, Katrin ha scritto: > > You should just allow responses on both slides, you don't have to do > anything else. Then you will either get a Reaction time for the first or > for the second slide. In case two you would have to add 200 ms to make up > for that. Is that clear enough? Best > Katrin > > > 2013/6/4 Piercarlo Mauri > > >> Thanks for your reply, >> I tried to use slide after the target with a duration of 800ms showing a >> fixation point and I reduced the first fixation to 0-1200, in this way the >> subject will have 200ms of the stimulus + 800ms of the other slide to >> respond and it seems to work, but do I have to set time limit in the >> stimulus slide to 1000ms in order to allow a response in the stimulus slide >> (200 ms) and also in the next slide (800ms)? Will the reaction time be >> recorded also if the subject press the button during the stimulus or during >> the next slide? >> >> >> >> Il giorno marted? 4 giugno 2013 16:00:44 UTC+2, Katrin ha scritto: >>> >>> Ciao PierCarlo, >>> >>> Two possibilities come to my mind >>> a) why not just putting another slide of 800 ms length after your >>> stimulus slide. Just a black textslide I mean. Just make this slide also >>> collect responses, but terminate always after 800 ms. This has the >>> disadvantage of course that the trial does not end with the response. But >>> maybe this is not the problem >>> If it is a problem I would make a short movieclip instead of the >>> textslide-stimulus. That would mean filming a digit for the 200 ms (or >>> putting frames of a picture in a movieformat to fill 200 ms, and then add >>> another 800 ms of black in the movie. This movie can act as the stimulus >>> and you can make the slide end with the response of the subject. Was that >>> of any help? >>> Katrin >>> >>> >>> 2013/6/4 Piercarlo Mauri >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> I'm new to this group and also to e-prime software, so please excuse me >>>> if the question will sound simple to you...I tried to find a solution >>>> online without any results... >>>> I'm creating my first experiment in e-prime and will be a continous >>>> performance test (CPT), a series of digits will be presented each one for >>>> 200ms with a variable ISI between 800-2000 ms. Subject will have to press a >>>> button on a SRbox only to one specific digit (target ) while they don't >>>> have to press buttons to other digits. The problem is that the responses >>>> are not collected by EP after the duration of 200ms of the stimulus (I >>>> would like to allow a time limit of 800ms after the appearence of the >>>> target), I tried to extend timeLimit for the SRbox input but the response >>>> will not be recorded. >>>> The experiment is divided in TrialList (list of digits presented in a >>>> random order), TrialProc with: Inline (to randomize the duration of >>>> fixation) / Fixation / Stimuli (with 200 of duration and timeLimit to 800 >>>> but EP doesn't collect responses after the 200ms of the stimulus). Can you >>>> help me? >>>> Thank you >>>> PM >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "E-Prime" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to e-prime+u...@**googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** >>>> msgid/e-prime/e491bda7-75d7-**48e4-83bc-c75905202482%** >>>> 40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com >> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/05cf31d9-37a5-4254-9005-96f55851baa2%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/c25b123f-52e6-47e2-b10f-b9027b0ee693%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katrinheimann at gmail.com Tue Jun 11 08:30:28 2013 From: katrinheimann at gmail.com (KatrinH Heimann) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:30:28 +0200 Subject: Collect responses after target disappeared...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: well, what do you mean with manually? you will of course not change every number by hand, but either program that later in the database, or you can even do that with a copydemand in excel, right? Should take you not more than a few seconds... best katrin 2013/6/11 Piercarlo Mauri > Sorry Katrin, > you mean that in case of response during the second response slide (the > fixation cross of 800ms) I would have to manually add 200ms to response > time in the data? (in order to include the first 200ms slide on the total > time of response). Is this the only possible method? > Thank you > PM > > > > Il giorno marted? 4 giugno 2013 18:46:14 UTC+2, Katrin ha scritto: >> >> You should just allow responses on both slides, you don't have to do >> anything else. Then you will either get a Reaction time for the first or >> for the second slide. In case two you would have to add 200 ms to make up >> for that. Is that clear enough? Best >> Katrin >> >> >> 2013/6/4 Piercarlo Mauri >> >>> Thanks for your reply, >>> I tried to use slide after the target with a duration of 800ms showing a >>> fixation point and I reduced the first fixation to 0-1200, in this way the >>> subject will have 200ms of the stimulus + 800ms of the other slide to >>> respond and it seems to work, but do I have to set time limit in the >>> stimulus slide to 1000ms in order to allow a response in the stimulus slide >>> (200 ms) and also in the next slide (800ms)? Will the reaction time be >>> recorded also if the subject press the button during the stimulus or during >>> the next slide? >>> >>> >>> >>> Il giorno marted? 4 giugno 2013 16:00:44 UTC+2, Katrin ha scritto: >>>> >>>> Ciao PierCarlo, >>>> >>>> Two possibilities come to my mind >>>> a) why not just putting another slide of 800 ms length after your >>>> stimulus slide. Just a black textslide I mean. Just make this slide also >>>> collect responses, but terminate always after 800 ms. This has the >>>> disadvantage of course that the trial does not end with the response. But >>>> maybe this is not the problem >>>> If it is a problem I would make a short movieclip instead of the >>>> textslide-stimulus. That would mean filming a digit for the 200 ms (or >>>> putting frames of a picture in a movieformat to fill 200 ms, and then add >>>> another 800 ms of black in the movie. This movie can act as the stimulus >>>> and you can make the slide end with the response of the subject. Was that >>>> of any help? >>>> Katrin >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/6/4 Piercarlo Mauri >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> I'm new to this group and also to e-prime software, so please excuse >>>>> me if the question will sound simple to you...I tried to find a solution >>>>> online without any results... >>>>> I'm creating my first experiment in e-prime and will be a continous >>>>> performance test (CPT), a series of digits will be presented each one for >>>>> 200ms with a variable ISI between 800-2000 ms. Subject will have to press a >>>>> button on a SRbox only to one specific digit (target ) while they don't >>>>> have to press buttons to other digits. The problem is that the responses >>>>> are not collected by EP after the duration of 200ms of the stimulus (I >>>>> would like to allow a time limit of 800ms after the appearence of the >>>>> target), I tried to extend timeLimit for the SRbox input but the response >>>>> will not be recorded. >>>>> The experiment is divided in TrialList (list of digits presented in a >>>>> random order), TrialProc with: Inline (to randomize the duration of >>>>> fixation) / Fixation / Stimuli (with 200 of duration and timeLimit to 800 >>>>> but EP doesn't collect responses after the 200ms of the stimulus). Can you >>>>> help me? >>>>> Thank you >>>>> PM >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "E-Prime" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to e-prime+u...@**googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/* >>>>> *ms**gid/e-prime/e491bda7-75d7-**48e4**-83bc-c75905202482%** >>>>> 40googlegro**ups.com?hl=en-US >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**grou**ps/opt_out >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "E-Prime" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to e-prime+u...@**googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** >>> msgid/e-prime/05cf31d9-37a5-**4254-9005-96f55851baa2%** >>> 40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/c25b123f-52e6-47e2-b10f-b9027b0ee693%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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Right now I have a break following Block 1 and a break following Block 2, which gives me an unnecessary break at the end of the experiment. The one option I can think of is to save two orders of the experiment (order 1: Block1, Block 2; Order2: Block2, Block1) on the computer and randomly assign participants to each. But there has got to be a more elegant way to make the mid-way break appear between the two blocks regardless of the counterbalance order. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Roxana -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/73e31711-cad5-490d-9e07-c4737e7f5373%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobias.fw at gmail.com Thu Jun 13 10:22:29 2013 From: tobias.fw at gmail.com (Tobias) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 03:22:29 -0700 Subject: Some parellel port keys work, some don't Message-ID: Hey there, I am using parallel port for response collection. My port ist &HD051 and I set a test slide to be terminated by ANY response made with the parallel port keys. That works fine with one device, but with another device id does not work at all. Of course you may think that maybe the other one is broken. But a collegue of mine who is using "Presentation" software can use both just fine. Any hint? Best, Tobias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/177824ba-4542-4c97-b78c-3a258a8d3485%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pfc.groot at gmail.com Thu Jun 13 15:21:01 2013 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:21:01 +0200 Subject: Some parellel port keys work, some don't In-Reply-To: <177824ba-4542-4c97-b78c-3a258a8d3485@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Which pin's are you using for input? The 8 data lines are sensitive to the port mode setting (Normal SPP, ECP, EPP). And what happens if you use a ParallelPort device instead of a plain Port device? (I think you need EP2-pro for this) Paul On 13 June 2013 12:22, Tobias wrote: > Hey there, > > I am using parallel port for response collection. My port ist &HD051 and I > set a test slide to be terminated by ANY response made with the parallel > port keys. That works fine with one device, but with another device id does > not work at all. > Of course you may think that maybe the other one is broken. But a collegue > of mine who is using "Presentation" software can use both just fine. > > Any hint? > Best, > Tobias > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/177824ba-4542-4c97-b78c-3a258a8d3485%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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Then I used D051 and it worked - but only for this one device. Not for another one. I am not sure which pins/bits the buttons are using each, but it may be that the one device uses one different from the other device. I would like to tell E-Prime to use the entire port. I don't know how to sepcify the port mode. I don't know the difference between ParallelPort device and plain Port device. All I know is both devices I have here have 25 pins and 8 of them should be used to transfer the data, right? Best, Tobias Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2013 12:22:29 UTC+2 schrieb Tobias: > > Hey there, > > I am using parallel port for response collection. My port ist &HD051 and I > set a test slide to be terminated by ANY response made with the parallel > port keys. That works fine with one device, but with another device id does > not work at all. > Of course you may think that maybe the other one is broken. But a collegue > of mine who is using "Presentation" software can use both just fine. > > Any hint? > Best, > Tobias > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/b63bcb3a-9afe-4ba9-bbee-51fd5a1938e5%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pfc.groot at gmail.com Thu Jun 13 21:06:21 2013 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 23:06:21 +0200 Subject: Some parellel port keys work, some don't In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, it's rather essential to know which pins are being used because different pins are mapped to different registers (i.e. different addresses). There are three 8-bit registers: data (base address), status (base address+1) and control (base address+2). The 25 pins are input, output, or bidirectional. The directionality of the data pins depends on the selected mode. For internal ports you can specify this mode using the BIOS setup, but I'm not sure how you this can be done with ports that are not integrated on the system board. The 8 data lines (which are mapped to the base register) are by default used for output only, so they won't accept any input unless you explicitly instruct the hardware to change its mode. The nice thing about the new ParallelPort object is that you can use the GUI to select input or output mode, without any further programming. There are also other advantages: http://www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=1247. If your button box is not wired to the data lines, then they are probably connected to the lines that are mapped to the status register (i.e. base address+1). I don't think you can use the ParallelPort device in this case, so you could simply fall back to the Port device. General info about the parallel port pinning and registers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_port Info about using input lines with the status register: http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/85-tips-and-tricks/71-button-box-on-printer-port.html best, paul On 13 June 2013 18:44, Tobias wrote: > Hey, thanks. > > I have E-Studio 2 Professional. I had a look at the control panel for the > addresses of the parallel port and they are D050-D057 and D040-D047. > > In E-Prime I have to specify the port and tried D050 first - which didn't > work. Then I used D051 and it worked - but only for this one device. Not > for another one. > I am not sure which pins/bits the buttons are using each, but it may be > that the one device uses one different from the other device. I would like > to tell E-Prime to use the entire port. > > I don't know how to sepcify the port mode. I don't know the difference > between ParallelPort device and plain Port device. > All I know is both devices I have here have 25 pins and 8 of them should > be used to transfer the data, right? > > Best, > Tobias > > Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2013 12:22:29 UTC+2 schrieb Tobias: > >> Hey there, >> >> I am using parallel port for response collection. My port ist &HD051 and >> I set a test slide to be terminated by ANY response made with the parallel >> port keys. That works fine with one device, but with another device id does >> not work at all. >> Of course you may think that maybe the other one is broken. But a >> collegue of mine who is using "Presentation" software can use both just >> fine. >> >> Any hint? >> Best, >> Tobias >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/b63bcb3a-9afe-4ba9-bbee-51fd5a1938e5%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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Paul On 13 June 2013 23:06, Paul Groot wrote: > Well, it's rather essential to know which pins are being used because > different pins are mapped to different registers (i.e. different > addresses). There are three 8-bit registers: data (base address), status > (base address+1) and control (base address+2). The 25 pins are input, > output, or bidirectional. The directionality of the data pins depends on > the selected mode. For internal ports you can specify this mode using the > BIOS setup, but I'm not sure how you this can be done with ports that are > not integrated on the system board. The 8 data lines (which are mapped to > the base register) are by default used for output only, so they won't > accept any input unless you explicitly instruct the hardware to change its > mode. The nice thing about the new ParallelPort object is that you can use > the GUI to select input or output mode, without any further programming. > There are also other advantages: > http://www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=1247. If your button box is > not wired to the data lines, then they are probably connected to the lines > that are mapped to the status register (i.e. base address+1). I don't think > you can use the ParallelPort device in this case, so you could simply fall > back to the Port device. > > > General info about the parallel port pinning and registers: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_port > Info about using input lines with the status register: > http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/85-tips-and-tricks/71-button-box-on-printer-port.html > > best, > paul > > > On 13 June 2013 18:44, Tobias wrote: > >> Hey, thanks. >> >> I have E-Studio 2 Professional. I had a look at the control panel for the >> addresses of the parallel port and they are D050-D057 and D040-D047. >> >> In E-Prime I have to specify the port and tried D050 first - which didn't >> work. Then I used D051 and it worked - but only for this one device. Not >> for another one. >> I am not sure which pins/bits the buttons are using each, but it may be >> that the one device uses one different from the other device. I would like >> to tell E-Prime to use the entire port. >> >> I don't know how to sepcify the port mode. I don't know the difference >> between ParallelPort device and plain Port device. >> All I know is both devices I have here have 25 pins and 8 of them should >> be used to transfer the data, right? >> >> Best, >> Tobias >> >> Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2013 12:22:29 UTC+2 schrieb Tobias: >> >>> Hey there, >>> >>> I am using parallel port for response collection. My port ist &HD051 and >>> I set a test slide to be terminated by ANY response made with the parallel >>> port keys. That works fine with one device, but with another device id does >>> not work at all. >>> Of course you may think that maybe the other one is broken. But a >>> collegue of mine who is using "Presentation" software can use both just >>> fine. >>> >>> Any hint? >>> Best, >>> Tobias >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/b63bcb3a-9afe-4ba9-bbee-51fd5a1938e5%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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We are ripping a total of 12 one-minute video clips from various movies (e.g., Matilda, Harry Potter) using AoA DVD ripper and using Camtasia to standardize the volumes (we couldn't find a program that clipped videos AND allowed us to standardize volumes). Basically our task presents these 1 minute clips with an ITI of 10 seconds between each clip and presents some startle probes to the participants. Our problem is that the program crashes after playing some of the videos randomly, and it's been difficult to assess why it crashes at all. We've run our task on both Windows XP and Windows 7 and both have crashed. -In Windows XP, the program always seems to freeze on the last frame of video clips with an XVID or tcs2 (camtasia) codec - it doesn't seem to matter which codec it is. -In Windows 7, the program froze in between video clips We've tried playing around with the E-prime CodecConfig, but a lot of the error messages we've been getting say "Filter is not DMO", but we're unsure what that means. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/9982538b-8290-441a-8a6d-7c2f3082a860%40googlegroups.com. 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You can find technical information on this type of object in the MSDN, including this article explaining the difference between DMOs and DirectShow Filters: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa925317.aspx In sum, I would say you do have some sort of codec problem on your machines. Can't say more, I rarely deal with E-Prime anymore. -David On Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:27:46 PM UTC+2, Hans Schroder wrote: > > Hey all, > > Our team has perused some of the group responses on issues with video > files, but none seem to address the problems that we're experiencing. We > are dealing with two codecs: XVID and tcs2 (camtasia). > > We are ripping a total of 12 one-minute video clips from various movies > (e.g., Matilda, Harry Potter) using AoA DVD ripper and using Camtasia to > standardize the volumes (we couldn't find a program that clipped videos AND > allowed us to standardize volumes). > > Basically our task presents these 1 minute clips with an ITI of 10 seconds > between each clip and presents some startle probes to the participants. Our > problem is that the program crashes after playing some of the videos > randomly, and it's been difficult to assess why it crashes at all. > > We've run our task on both Windows XP and Windows 7 and both have crashed. > > -In Windows XP, the program always seems to freeze on the last frame of > video clips with an XVID or tcs2 (camtasia) codec - it doesn't seem to > matter which codec it is. > > -In Windows 7, the program froze in between video clips > > We've tried playing around with the E-prime CodecConfig, but a lot of the > error messages we've been getting say "Filter is not DMO", but we're unsure > what that means. > > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/ee0ba0ab-d8bc-43fb-b996-e62d5254e3e5%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobias.fw at gmail.com Sat Jun 15 17:38:31 2013 From: tobias.fw at gmail.com (Tobias) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:38:31 -0700 Subject: Some parellel port keys work, some don't In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks a lot. That was really helpful. So I figured that the one device is using data, the other one is using status pins. Apparently, &hd030 refers to data pins and &hd031 to status pins. Similarly for the other parallel port, &hd050 refers to data pins and &hd051 to status pins. This might also be helpful for others who try figuring out how to specify port settings in E-Prime. I couldn't use your script, it seems to be made with a newer version than the one we have (2.0.8.90). But it works fine now so thanks a lot! Best, Tobias Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2013 23:06:21 UTC+2 schrieb Paul Groot: > > Well, it's rather essential to know which pins are being used because > different pins are mapped to different registers (i.e. different > addresses). There are three 8-bit registers: data (base address), status > (base address+1) and control (base address+2). The 25 pins are input, > output, or bidirectional. The directionality of the data pins depends on > the selected mode. For internal ports you can specify this mode using the > BIOS setup, but I'm not sure how you this can be done with ports that are > not integrated on the system board. The 8 data lines (which are mapped to > the base register) are by default used for output only, so they won't > accept any input unless you explicitly instruct the hardware to change its > mode. The nice thing about the new ParallelPort object is that you can use > the GUI to select input or output mode, without any further programming. > There are also other advantages: > http://www.pstnet.com/support/kb.asp?TopicID=1247. If your button box is > not wired to the data lines, then they are probably connected to the lines > that are mapped to the status register (i.e. base address+1). I don't think > you can use the ParallelPort device in this case, so you could simply fall > back to the Port device. > > > General info about the parallel port pinning and registers: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_port > Info about using input lines with the status register: > http://pfcgroot.nl/e-prime/85-tips-and-tricks/71-button-box-on-printer-port.html > > best, > paul > > > On 13 June 2013 18:44, Tobias > wrote: > >> Hey, thanks. >> >> I have E-Studio 2 Professional. I had a look at the control panel for the >> addresses of the parallel port and they are D050-D057 and D040-D047. >> >> In E-Prime I have to specify the port and tried D050 first - which didn't >> work. Then I used D051 and it worked - but only for this one device. Not >> for another one. >> I am not sure which pins/bits the buttons are using each, but it may be >> that the one device uses one different from the other device. I would like >> to tell E-Prime to use the entire port. >> >> I don't know how to sepcify the port mode. I don't know the difference >> between ParallelPort device and plain Port device. >> All I know is both devices I have here have 25 pins and 8 of them should >> be used to transfer the data, right? >> >> Best, >> Tobias >> >> Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2013 12:22:29 UTC+2 schrieb Tobias: >> >>> Hey there, >>> >>> I am using parallel port for response collection. My port ist &HD051 and >>> I set a test slide to be terminated by ANY response made with the parallel >>> port keys. That works fine with one device, but with another device id does >>> not work at all. >>> Of course you may think that maybe the other one is broken. But a >>> collegue of mine who is using "Presentation" software can use both just >>> fine. >>> >>> Any hint? >>> Best, >>> Tobias >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com >> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/b63bcb3a-9afe-4ba9-bbee-51fd5a1938e5%40googlegroups.com?hl=en-US >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/96e25cdd-3eb2-42b5-9a4b-8cd3e14cd45f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobias.fw at gmail.com Sat Jun 15 17:45:41 2013 From: tobias.fw at gmail.com (Tobias) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:45:41 -0700 Subject: Delay in offset Message-ID: Dear all, I have encountered a weird delay in offset for slides and text displays. When I have such an object in the end of a procedure and there is only inlines computing some variables, there is a delay of about 1 sec or so. I used pretty much standard settings, duration -1, terminate and keyboard ({ANY}) as input. Whenever I pressed a key to end the slide/text display, it took an additional time until it terminated. I have not used PreRelease. So I wanted to measure how much time exactly the delay takes. I inserted another object at the very end of the procedure so that I can compute SecondObject.OnsetTime - FirstObject.OnsetTime. Now what happened was that there was NO delay anymore and the first object immediately set off whenever I pressed a key. This doesn't seem to be such a big problem since I can use a very time-limited second object (10 ms) tat wouldn't really disturb anything. Still it is quite a bit annyoing and I have encountered this problem before. Let me know if you had similar trouble and/or know a solution. Best, Tobias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/fe3ba7c8-47df-4109-b20e-6ce727bde82c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d.vinson at ucl.ac.uk Mon Jun 17 09:14:49 2013 From: d.vinson at ucl.ac.uk (Vinson, David) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:14:49 +0000 Subject: Video clips make program crash In-Reply-To: <9982538b-8290-441a-8a6d-7c2f3082a860@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Unfortunately this does look like a codec problem, we had similar unpredictable freezing performance using videos, which we eventually solved by (1) experimenting with a range of different codecs, and (2) removing all the extra video junk and using a clean reinstall of E-Prime. In our case once we found a suitable codec that worked in E-Prime with our hardware, we didn't have to touch Codec Config. In fact once I stopped messing with Codec Config things went easier for me (ie, trying to change my codecs rather than trying to get E-Prime working with codecs it doesn't like). We also preload videos before they are displayed, and incorporate more breaks than we usually would between sets of trials. I am not sure whether this makes any difference but both seemed to reduce the incidence of freezing behaviour before we found a more stable codec configuration & we have kept both in place where possible. *Our videos are all <10sec. Suggestions - for trimming we have started using "Solveig MM AVI Trimmer + MKV" freeware http://www.solveigmm.com/en/products/avi-trimmer-mkv/ This is a very simple editor that crucially does not do any re-encoding/decoding Also if you are standardizing volumes, a possible alternative might be to split the audio and video tracks then standardize the audio levels using an audio-only package. This does require combining the audio and video back together again which could cause its own range of problems. Or, a different thought - if all you are doing is adjusting the volume of the audio for the videos, it might be possible to do this using the volume controls? Such things are incompletely documented when it comes to video, but in many cases there are aspects of Movies that work the same as SoundOut. In which case you could specify your desired Volume (Volume Control = yes) for each of the clips based on values you determined beforehand. If this works it could allow you to avoid use of an extra codec step. See reference guide section on SoundOut and see if it works for movies.... good luck! david ________________________________ From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [e-prime at googlegroups.com] on behalf of Hans Schroder [hans.stuart.schroder at gmail.com] Sent: 13 June 2013 22:27 To: e-prime at googlegroups.com Subject: Video clips make program crash Hey all, Our team has perused some of the group responses on issues with video files, but none seem to address the problems that we're experiencing. We are dealing with two codecs: XVID and tcs2 (camtasia). We are ripping a total of 12 one-minute video clips from various movies (e.g., Matilda, Harry Potter) using AoA DVD ripper and using Camtasia to standardize the volumes (we couldn't find a program that clipped videos AND allowed us to standardize volumes). Basically our task presents these 1 minute clips with an ITI of 10 seconds between each clip and presents some startle probes to the participants. Our problem is that the program crashes after playing some of the videos randomly, and it's been difficult to assess why it crashes at all. We've run our task on both Windows XP and Windows 7 and both have crashed. -In Windows XP, the program always seems to freeze on the last frame of video clips with an XVID or tcs2 (camtasia) codec - it doesn't seem to matter which codec it is. -In Windows 7, the program froze in between video clips We've tried playing around with the E-prime CodecConfig, but a lot of the error messages we've been getting say "Filter is not DMO", but we're unsure what that means. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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URL: From luigi.baciadonna at gmail.com Tue Jun 18 15:03:14 2013 From: luigi.baciadonna at gmail.com (luigi.baciadonna at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:03:14 -0700 Subject: slide object sound and image Message-ID: Hi, I need to set up a new experiment with the presentation of image and sound in the same time but with different duration: sound for 200ms image for 50ms Seems like that E-prime not allow to change in sub-properties object the duration independently for image and sound keeping the synchronization. Any suggestion? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/002519ee-3f87-4a83-a1eb-fe99ad4bc4cc%40googlegroups.com. 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If the sound file contains more sound, then try using the SlideSound Stop Offset to limit the playback to 200 ms. ----- David McFarlane E-Prime training online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) /---- Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff take any and all questions at http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , and they strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours, so make full use of it. 3) In addition, PST offers several instructional videos on their YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ). 4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. \---- At 6/18/2013 11:03 AM Tuesday, luigi.baciadonna at gmail.com wrote: >I need to set up a new experiment with >the presentation of image and sound in the same time but with >different duration: >sound for 200ms >image for 50ms >Seems like that E-prime not allow to change in sub-properties object >the duration >independently for image and sound keeping the synchronization. Any suggestion? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/51c07a6b.2649320a.1d9a.0d32SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. From nivavr at gmail.com Tue Jun 18 15:31:42 2013 From: nivavr at gmail.com (avraham niv) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:31:42 -0700 Subject: Unable to set the VAS (Paul Groot VAS with changes) needle direction when the scale is vertical Message-ID: Hi all, First I would really like to thank Paul for the script for the VAS it's great! In my experiment I need to use the VAS both horizontally and vertically, and i need the needle starting position to be at the left and right edges (and not like Paul's VAS in the center). For the horizontal VAS I managed to do it by adding another argument to VAS_DragScale so it looks like this: Function VAS_DragScale(c As Context, strAttributeName as string, Optional duration as Variant, *Optional strSliderDirection as Variant*) as Integer and than inside the function i added the following: 'set mouse cursor at left right or center position If IsMissing(strSliderDirection) then Mouse.SetCursorPos 0.5*(VAS_SliderDummy.Left+VAS_SliderDummy.Right), VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom else if strSliderDirection = "left" then Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Left, VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom else if strSliderDirection = "right" then Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Right, VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom end if end if End If and in the trials I use an inline to tell the needle where to start. That went fine but when I try to implement it in the vertical VAS it always starts from the bottom of the slider dummy text object, I guess it is got to do with the fact that to create the vertical vas I just changed the slide text object (VAS_SliderDummy) dimensions, in the script basically changes every X to Y and vice versa, and every Object.Right to Object.Bottom and every Object.Left to Object.Top . So for example my changes to the script above looks like this: 'set mouse cursor at up down or center position If IsMissing(strSliderDirection1) then Mouse.SetCursorPos 0.5*(VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom+VAS_SliderDummy.Top), VAS_SliderDummy.Left else if strSliderDirection1 = "top" then Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Top, VAS_SliderDummy.Left else if strSliderDirection1 = "bottom" then Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom, VAS_SliderDummy.Left end if end if End If As I mentioned it doesn't work. If anyone got a clue I will be greatfull! I attached the whole experiment if someone needs it and I would like to thank Paul again for the original script. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/1af07bf2-5f71-4f20-baa4-3c0acb57543d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For the SlideSound sub-object, make > sure you set Stop After to No. Now the the sound will continue > playing after the end of the Slide. If the sound file contains 200 > ms of sound, the you should be done. If the sound file contains more > sound, then try using the SlideSound Stop Offset to limit the > playback to 200 ms. > > ----- > David McFarlane > E-Prime training > online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx > Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) > > /---- > Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) PST's trained staff > take any and all questions at > http://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp , and they > strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours, so make full use of > it. 3) In addition, PST offers several instructional videos on their > YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET ). 4) If you do > get an answer from PST staff, please extend the courtesy of posting > their reply back here for the sake of others. > \---- > > > At 6/18/2013 11:03 AM Tuesday, luigi.ba... at gmail.com wrote: > >I need to set up a new experiment with > >the presentation of image and sound in the same time but with > >different duration: > >sound for 200ms > >image for 50ms > >Seems like that E-prime not allow to change in sub-properties object > >the duration > >independently for image and sound keeping the synchronization. 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URL: From pfc.groot at gmail.com Tue Jun 18 18:40:48 2013 From: pfc.groot at gmail.com (Paul Groot) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:40:48 +0200 Subject: Unable to set the VAS (Paul Groot VAS with changes) needle direction when the scale is vertical In-Reply-To: <1af07bf2-5f71-4f20-baa4-3c0acb57543d@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi, Well, I'm not able to double check this right now, but SetCursosPos accepts X,Y coordinates (in that order) by definition. Using Slider.Bottom for X and Slider.Left for Y, etc. doesn't make sense... Shouldn't it be something like this?: if strSliderDirection1 = "bottom" then Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Left, VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom end if On 18 June 2013 17:31, avraham niv wrote: > Hi all, > First I would really like to thank Paul for the script for the VAS it's > great! > In my experiment I need to use the VAS both horizontally and vertically, > and i need the needle starting position to be at the left and right edges > (and not like Paul's VAS in the center). > For the horizontal VAS I managed to do it by adding another argument to > VAS_DragScale so it looks like this: > > Function VAS_DragScale(c As Context, strAttributeName as string, Optional > duration as Variant, *Optional strSliderDirection as Variant*) as Integer > > and than inside the function i added the following: > > 'set mouse cursor at left right or center position > If IsMissing(strSliderDirection) then > Mouse.SetCursorPos > 0.5*(VAS_SliderDummy.Left+VAS_SliderDummy.Right), VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom > else > if strSliderDirection = "left" then > Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Left, VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom > else > if strSliderDirection = "right" then > Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Right, > VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom > end if > end if > End If > > and in the trials I use an inline to tell the needle where to start. > That went fine but when I try to implement it in the vertical VAS it > always starts from the bottom of the slider dummy text object, > I guess it is got to do with the fact that to create the vertical vas I > just changed the slide text object (VAS_SliderDummy) dimensions, in the > script basically changes every X to Y and vice versa, and every > Object.Right to Object.Bottom and every Object.Left to Object.Top . > So for example my changes to the script above looks like this: > > 'set mouse cursor at up down or center position > If IsMissing(strSliderDirection1) then > Mouse.SetCursorPos > 0.5*(VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom+VAS_SliderDummy.Top), VAS_SliderDummy.Left > else > if strSliderDirection1 = "top" then > Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Top, VAS_SliderDummy.Left > else > if strSliderDirection1 = "bottom" then > Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom, > VAS_SliderDummy.Left > end if > end if > End If > > As I mentioned it doesn't work. > If anyone got a clue I will be greatfull! > I attached the whole experiment if someone needs it and I would like to > thank Paul again for the original script. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/1af07bf2-5f71-4f20-baa4-3c0acb57543d%40googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/CAKAdR-sjHoDBnwL81FLdFH-WmiNTXFrNpsn47yqMAXhzq%3DUZoQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nivavr at gmail.com Tue Jun 18 20:06:32 2013 From: nivavr at gmail.com (avraham niv) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:06:32 -0700 Subject: Unable to set the VAS (Paul Groot VAS with changes) needle direction when the scale is vertical In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Paul it WORKED you are totally right. Thanks for the wise advice and for the genius script!!! Avraham On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:40:48 PM UTC+3, Paul Groot wrote: > > Hi, > > Well, I'm not able to double check this right now, but SetCursosPos > accepts X,Y coordinates (in that order) by definition. Using Slider.Bottom > for X and Slider.Left for Y, etc. doesn't make sense... > > Shouldn't it be something like this?: > > if strSliderDirection1 = "bottom" then > Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Left, > VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom > end if > > > > > On 18 June 2013 17:31, avraham niv > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> First I would really like to thank Paul for the script for the VAS it's >> great! >> In my experiment I need to use the VAS both horizontally and vertically, >> and i need the needle starting position to be at the left and right edges >> (and not like Paul's VAS in the center). >> For the horizontal VAS I managed to do it by adding another argument to >> VAS_DragScale so it looks like this: >> >> Function VAS_DragScale(c As Context, strAttributeName as string, Optional >> duration as Variant, *Optional strSliderDirection as Variant*) as Integer >> >> and than inside the function i added the following: >> >> 'set mouse cursor at left right or center position >> If IsMissing(strSliderDirection) then >> Mouse.SetCursorPos >> 0.5*(VAS_SliderDummy.Left+VAS_SliderDummy.Right), VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom >> else >> if strSliderDirection = "left" then >> Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Left, >> VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom >> else >> if strSliderDirection = "right" then >> Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Right, >> VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom >> end if >> end if >> End If >> >> and in the trials I use an inline to tell the needle where to start. >> That went fine but when I try to implement it in the vertical VAS it >> always starts from the bottom of the slider dummy text object, >> I guess it is got to do with the fact that to create the vertical vas I >> just changed the slide text object (VAS_SliderDummy) dimensions, in the >> script basically changes every X to Y and vice versa, and every >> Object.Right to Object.Bottom and every Object.Left to Object.Top . >> So for example my changes to the script above looks like this: >> >> 'set mouse cursor at up down or center position >> If IsMissing(strSliderDirection1) then >> Mouse.SetCursorPos >> 0.5*(VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom+VAS_SliderDummy.Top), VAS_SliderDummy.Left >> else >> if strSliderDirection1 = "top" then >> Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Top, VAS_SliderDummy.Left >> else >> if strSliderDirection1 = "bottom" then >> Mouse.SetCursorPos VAS_SliderDummy.Bottom, >> VAS_SliderDummy.Left >> end if >> end if >> End If >> >> As I mentioned it doesn't work. >> If anyone got a clue I will be greatfull! >> I attached the whole experiment if someone needs it and I would like to >> thank Paul again for the original script. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "E-Prime" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com >> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/1af07bf2-5f71-4f20-baa4-3c0acb57543d%40googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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(using the keyboard works well, it is not a question of the sequence Ideas? thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/862f2640-4b1a-460e-8f94-84b2f2eb297d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christina.tzeng at gmail.com Wed Jun 26 19:33:41 2013 From: christina.tzeng at gmail.com (Sound Experiment) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:33:41 -0700 Subject: Logging response times after stimulus presentation Message-ID: Hello, For each experimental trial, I am presenting a sound file and pictorial images simultaneously. Participants will be making a button box response upon hearing the sound file (while the images remain on the screen). I would like participants' response times to begin logging after the sound file ends. Is there anything I should do in my script to ensure this? The sound files vary in length. Thank you, Christina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/8320da90-5293-4b4a-b18f-8b125b667003%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I tried switching what image corresponds to each label (i.e. Another going to Label11 and Proceed going to Label3) to see if the problem was in the Elseif statement, but then both buttons ended up at Label11. Would anyone know how to have each button go to their intended location? Thank you, Katie _________________________________________________________________________ 'Designate "theState" as the Default Slide State, which is the 'current ActiveState on the Slide object "morepractice". Dim theState As SlideState Set theState = morepractice.States("Default") Dim theSlideImage As SlideImage Dim strHit As String Dim theMouseResponseData As MouseResponseData 'Was there a response? If morepractice.InputMasks.Responses.Count > 0 Then debug.print "Line 16" 'Get the mouse response. Set theMouseResponseData = CMouseResponseData(morepractice.InputMasks.Responses(1)) 'Determine string name of SlideImage object at 'mouse click coordinates. Assign that value to strHit strHit = theState.HitTest(theMouseResponseData.CursorX, theMouseResponseData.CursorY) 'If you hit image for Another Practice Trial you will go to a label before the practice list' If strHit = "Another" Then Sleep 350 GoTo Label3 'If you hit the image for Proceed to Task1 you will go to a label before the intro slide for Task1' ElseIf strHit = "Proceed" Then Sleep 350 GoTo Label11 'If you hit anywhere else on the screen you will stay at that screen' Else GoTo Label4 End If End If Set theMouseResponseData = Nothing Mouse.ShowCursor False -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/ec9337a2-41a6-4927-87ec-fcbf6d67f158%40googlegroups.com. 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