Nested List Not Following Selection Rules

gorgeous yayuan geng gusunny1 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 7 02:18:35 UTC 2014


Dear Noam,

I have seen your excel profile and I have some questions about your
procedure. How did you random the wordlist so that you can get the random 4
words to show? Did you write any inline codes or just random the list, if
the latter, what's inside the list, how come the numbers named
newlist1,newlist2,wordlist,wordlist2? This is why I would like to see your
eprime program. I want the structure of your program so that I can get you.

Besides, I think you can group the 85 words into two groups,
negative(list1) and positive(list2) and then make a master list list3,list1
and list2 are nested in list3, and in list3, you have 4
attributions:p1,p2,n1,n2, and you can define p1 as [list2:0],p2 as
[list2:1],n1 as [list1:0],n2 as [list1:1], then you can set the weight of
List3 as 24. I think this can work.you can have a try.

hope that helps.

My best,

Sally



2014-08-07 10:02 GMT+08:00 gorgeous yayuan geng <gusunny1 at gmail.com>:

> Dear Noam,
>
> I have seen your excel profile and I have some questions about your
> procedure. How did you random the wordlist so that you can get the random 4
> words to show? Did you write any inline codes or just random the list, if
> the latter, what's inside the list, how come the numbers named
> newlist1,newlist2,wordlist,wordlist2? This is why I would like to see your
> eprime program. I want the structure of your program so that I can get you.
>
> Besides, I think you can group the 85 words into two groups,
> negative(list1) and positive(list2) and then make a master list list3,list1
> and list2 are nested in list3, and in list3, you have 4
> attributions:p1,p2,n1,n2, and you can define p1 as [list2:0],p2 as
> [list2:1],n1 as [list1:0],n2 as [list1:1], then you can set the weight of
> List3 as 24. I think this can work.you can have a try.
>
> hope that helps.
>
> My best,
>
> Sally
>
>
> 2014-08-06 22:08 GMT+08:00 Noam Schneck <noam.schneck at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi Sally,
>>
>> Thank you for the response.  Sorry for the e-prime version elitism.  I
>> can't downgrade because I don't have the lower version and would need to
>> reprogram the entire task if I did. I am attaching here an edat file
>> extracted into an excel spreadsheet. If you look at columns DB-DK you
>> will see the words that were selected for each trial.  Columns DD and DE
>>  show the alternating blocks.  What this file shows is that for the first
>> six blocks  there are no repetitions and then in blocks 7 and 8 (rows
>> 153-200 on the excel spreadsheet) there are repetitions (highlighted in
>> pink). The problem is that these repetitions occur within one block. I
>> can't figure out why that is happening since I set the wordlist to random.
>> I don't mind if the repetitions happen across blocks but I can't have them
>> within blocks.
>>
>> Let me know if you have any further thoughts,
>> noam
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 4, 2014 11:29:48 PM UTC-4, sally wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,Noam, I am trying to download the attachemnt you posted but it seems
>>> my version is lower than yours, so I cann't open yout profile to see the
>>> details. I suppose the four words cannot be the same and you may seperate
>>> the 85 words into 2 different groups: positive and negative. then randomly
>>> select 2 words from each group. I hope you can find a lower eprime version
>>> so I can see the details.
>>>
>>> Hope everything goes well,
>>>
>>> Sally
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-08-02 0:23 GMT+08:00 Noam Schneck <noam.s... at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I have a task in which a slide object is used to present four words
>>>> (Positive1, Positive2, Negative1, Negative2).  Each word is selected
>>>> randomly from a list that contains 85 words in total.  This list "Wordlist"
>>>> is nested into the master list.  I am trying to set the wordlist so that no
>>>> words will repeat within a block (24 runs) but that they can repeat across
>>>> blocks.  I set the parameters of the wordlist to random selection with
>>>> replacement after reset.  I set the reset at 24 samples.
>>>>
>>>> HOWEVER....E-prime seems to have a different plan.  When I run a test
>>>> on the task I find that the program goes through the first 3 blocks (72
>>>> samples) without ever repeating a single word and than in the fourth block
>>>> it begins repeating words within the block.  I cannot figure out why this
>>>> is happening and I have attached the experiment file. Please help!
>>>>
>>>> Noam
>>>>
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