From d.vinson at ucl.ac.uk Wed Oct 1 07:45:06 2014 From: d.vinson at ucl.ac.uk (David Vinson) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 08:45:06 +0100 Subject: Data Logging Problem In-Reply-To: <0E254C17-1808-462A-AEC5-5385838808AF@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi Ariene, My first thought is that your response object is ending before a response is made (ie, RT > Duration) but this is a vague guess as I am not exactly sure what your problem is. Can you clarify some details about your experiment: what is the sequence of events and what is the participant meant to do (in very basic terms). And then for the problem responses, what has a value of zero? For example ResponseSlide.RESP = 0? or ResponseSlide.RT = 0? or ResponseSlide.ACC = 0? all the best, DavidV On 30/09/2014 17:36, Ariene Caloia wrote: > I'm very new to E-Prime so please forgive my ignorance, but I'm having some problems with the data logging and would be very grateful for any suggestions. > > I'm putting together a video based experiment which seems to all run fine, however the occasional response is not logging correctly and appears as 0. Having run the experiment again a few times, I've found that there is a lack of consistency with regard to which stimulus clip response is not logged, so I don't think the problem can be attributed to the video files themselves (which are in .wmv format - I converted some of the files which were .avi, as I was originally concerned that the different file types may have contributed to the problem, or that the .avi files might've been too large to process smoothly) > > I've also tried configuring the TextDisplay1 slide to log responses, in addition to the VideoSlide and ResponseSlide, but nor has this solved the problem. > > All ideas would be warmly welcomed, and I will do my best to answer any further questions (but speaking in layman's terms will help me!) > > Many thanks, > > Ariene > -- David Vinson, Ph.D. Institute for Multimodal Communication http://institute-for-multimodal-communication.org Department of Experimental Psychology University College London 26 Bedford Way, London WC1H 0AP Tel +44 (0)20 7679 5311 (UCL internal ext. 25311) Out now: Royal Society Theme issue "Language as a multimodal phenomenon" http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/site/2014/multimodal.xhtml -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/542BB102.5000100%40ucl.ac.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. From heathericmatheson at gmail.com Wed Oct 1 18:24:54 2014 From: heathericmatheson at gmail.com (Heath Matheson) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 11:24:54 -0700 Subject: Randomly select from a list of stimuli but include breaks after a pre determined number of trials Message-ID: Hi all, I have an experiment in which I am showing 100 stimuli to participants and am recording object names. I would like to show 20 images, randomly selected from the 100, then have a break, then show another randomly selected 20 images, etc, until all 100 have been shown across 5 blocks with breaks in between them. My experiment looks like this: SessionProc ---Instructions ---Blocklist (with one level) -------Triallist (with a list of all 100 stimuli) -------TrialProc -------------Fixation -------------SlidePicture ---End So right now, I can show the 100 images randomly all the way through. I think to introduce breaks I need to play with nesting but everything I am doing doesn't work and seems overly complicated. The problem is easily solved if I don't worry about randomizing the presentation of all 100 stimuli but this is an important part of the experiment. Any suggestions for how to include periodic breaks? Thanks! Heath -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/ec6e081f-cb87-4475-9611-47d985f88d0a%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From swordeity at gmail.com Thu Oct 2 06:39:17 2014 From: swordeity at gmail.com (Tan Li) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 23:39:17 -0700 Subject: Image remains visible at 1ms presentation time Message-ID: Hi! I'm starting out with E-prime and using it for a psychology experiment, where I'm employing a image prime. Even when I change the duration of presentation of the image to 1 ms, I can still see the image flash during the run rather than appearing "invisible". Another study took <14 ms for the primes to appear invisible. On DataAid, there is no ActionDelay for the image. DurationError is -1, and OnsetDelay ranges from 0-1 ms. Each image is about 240KB. Would anyone have any idea what's happening? I haven't been able to find an answer in the database... Any reply is much appreciated! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/7200fa93-17c7-4af3-99fc-57318a5f52c4%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arienelouanacaloia at googlemail.com Thu Oct 2 15:16:53 2014 From: arienelouanacaloia at googlemail.com (Ariene Caloia) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 08:16:53 -0700 Subject: Data Logging Problem In-Reply-To: <542BB102.5000100@ucl.ac.uk> Message-ID: Dear David, JoAnn & David, Thank you all very much for your responses. I apologise for the delay in getting back to you, I was out of office yesterday. The experiment is a reaction time task that will be used with fMRI, the video clips are of moves in sport, and participants are required to respond to how they believe play is progressing. Session proc is structured as 'TextDisplay3, InLine1, Welcome, TextDisplay 2, blockproc (TextDisplay1, VideoSlide, ResponseSlide), Endslide'. My pre-release setting is 0, Input Masks End Action set to None VideoSlide.RTTime, VideoSlide.RT & VideoSlide.ACC = 0, VideoSlide.CRESP & VideoSlide.RESP = blank As it is a reaction time task it is quite important that response data is logged all throughout the stimulus, and a little beyond too. And I do not want to terminate the clip once a response is made as I wish to record brain activity through the entirety of the video. In my testing, having purposefully responded AFTER the stimulus clip, I'm consistently finding some are being recorded and some are not, but I have not seen any consistency as to specifically which ones are and which are not recorded. It seems odd to me that the program should not allow me to measure a response beyond the stimulus without terminating the video for a reaction time task...I could record the reaction time manually whilst the participant is in the scanner, but this is not ideal. Therefore would be very grateful if anyone has any further suggestions! Thank you again, your time and help is greatly appreciated! Best, Ariene -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/773d2ef5-42b5-4fa5-abb5-9be6dc8381eb%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. From jsilkes at uw.edu Thu Oct 2 15:19:57 2014 From: jsilkes at uw.edu (JoAnn Silkes) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 08:19:57 -0700 Subject: Image remains visible at 1ms presentation time In-Reply-To: <7200fa93-17c7-4af3-99fc-57318a5f52c4@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: So far as I understand it, it's not possible to get as fast as a 1 ms presentation rate due to the limitations of the refresh rate of the computer monitor. With a 100 Hz refresh rate, the quickest presentation that you can achieve is 10 ms; you would need a 1000 Hz refresh rate for a 1 ms presentation, which I don't think exists. I've also found that, depending on the computer I'm using, sometimes asking EPrime to present something for just a single frame (i.e., 10 ms when the refresh rate is 100 Hz), the processor can't quite keep up and it ends up dropping frames, so the minimum I can really do is two frames (in this example, 20 ms). My guess is that you've got a mismatch between refresh rate and requested exposure duration, and that's throwing everything off. Another thing to think about is whether you're using masking, or just relying on the rapid presentation rate. Perception of extraordinarily brief presentations is still likely, especially for images, if you don't have adequate masks present. Good luck figuring it out. JoAnn. On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 11:39:17 PM UTC-7, Tan Li wrote: > > Hi! > > I'm starting out with E-prime and using it for a psychology experiment, > where I'm employing a image prime. Even when I change the duration of > presentation of the image to 1 ms, I can still see the image flash during > the run rather than appearing "invisible". Another study took <14 ms for > the primes to appear invisible. > > On DataAid, there is no ActionDelay for the image. DurationError is -1, > and OnsetDelay ranges from 0-1 ms. Each image is about 240KB. > > Would anyone have any idea what's happening? I haven't been able to find > an answer in the database... > > Any reply is much appreciated! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/24e91c45-4a16-45e8-82bf-e7648ac80997%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deanne.adams at gmail.com Thu Oct 2 15:22:37 2014 From: deanne.adams at gmail.com (Deanne Adams) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 08:22:37 -0700 Subject: drawing board In-Reply-To: <003301cdfaf8$4cf3ec60$e6dbc520$@eu> Message-ID: Hey Michael and Michiel, We are trying to get an Eprime 2.0 study going using a Wacom tablet and I was wondering whether Michael ever got his study to work. Michiel- I downloaded your experiment and tried to run it but I am experiencing an error in Eprime with the ShowCanvas component. I'm not sure if it is because I am trying to run it in a newer version of Eprime or not. Any advice? Thanks, Deanne On Friday, January 25, 2013 7:34:20 AM UTC-5, Michiel Sovijärvi-Spapé wrote: > > Hi, > > 1) Yes, I have. Attached is an experiment - don't know if it still works > (I wrote it about 3 years ago), but have a look. > > 2) Not really, we used one of those wacom tablets (before tablets got a > different meaning). The only thing you have to make sure to look for is to > see if they support a relative/absolute function: e.g., top right corner > drawer can mean the top-right corner, but also, like a mouse pointer, the > centre, with offset at previous location. > > Best, > > Michiel > > > > Dr. Michiel M. Sovijarvi-Spapé > > Helsinki Institute for Information Technology > > Aalto & Helsingin Yliopisto. > > > > *From:* e-p... at googlegroups.com [mailto:... at googlegroups.com > ] *On Behalf Of *schultem > *Sent:* 24 January 2013 10:39 > *To:* e-p... at googlegroups.com > *Subject:* drawing board > > > > hi all, > > > > I am interested in collecting data with e-prime and a drawing board (eg > http://www.wacom.com/en/products/pen-tablets/intuos) > > the idea would be to collect coordinates (x,y) of the pencil at a high > resolution (whatever is possible) during a task where the participant moves > the mouse cursor on screen to different locations. > > > > Here are my questions: > > 1) has anybody done something like that already? > > 2) can anybody recommend a drawing tablet for that purpose? > > > > Thanks > > Michael > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/9WffwQbAdXkJ. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/b2b7153d-c72b-4be5-8975-2a92ac285ae1%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsilkes at uw.edu Thu Oct 2 16:25:17 2014 From: jsilkes at uw.edu (JoAnn Silkes) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 09:25:17 -0700 Subject: Data Logging Problem In-Reply-To: <773d2ef5-42b5-4fa5-abb5-9be6dc8381eb@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: What are the Time Limit and End Action for your stimulus clips? If you don't want a response to terminate the video, your Time Limit (under Duration/Input) should be set for as long as you want it to be recorded, and End Action should be set to "none". So, for instance, I have a protocol in which I want a response to be recorded any time up to 4000 ms after presentation, but the duration of the stimulus is only 3000 ms, so I've set the Time Limit to 4000, which allows it to record for that extra 1000 ms. JoAnn. On Thursday, October 2, 2014 8:16:53 AM UTC-7, Ariene Caloia wrote: > > Dear David, JoAnn & David, > > Thank you all very much for your responses. I apologise for the delay in > getting back to you, I was out of office yesterday. > > The experiment is a reaction time task that will be used with fMRI, the > video clips are of moves in sport, and participants are required to respond > to how they believe play is progressing. Session proc is structured as > 'TextDisplay3, InLine1, Welcome, TextDisplay 2, blockproc (TextDisplay1, > VideoSlide, ResponseSlide), Endslide'. > My pre-release setting is 0, Input Masks End Action set to None > VideoSlide.RTTime, VideoSlide.RT & VideoSlide.ACC = 0, VideoSlide.CRESP & > VideoSlide.RESP = blank > > As it is a reaction time task it is quite important that response data is > logged all throughout the stimulus, and a little beyond too. And I do not > want to terminate the clip once a response is made as I wish to record > brain activity through the entirety of the video. In my testing, having > purposefully responded AFTER the stimulus clip, I'm consistently finding > some are being recorded and some are not, but I have not seen any > consistency as to specifically which ones are and which are not recorded. > > It seems odd to me that the program should not allow me to measure a > response beyond the stimulus without terminating the video for a reaction > time task...I could record the reaction time manually whilst the > participant is in the scanner, but this is not ideal. Therefore would be > very grateful if anyone has any further suggestions! > > Thank you again, your time and help is greatly appreciated! > > Best, > > Ariene > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/4d30bb7f-e6fd-409e-8326-e81d337fde72%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Thu Oct 2 17:23:21 2014 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 13:23:21 -0400 Subject: Data Logging Problem In-Reply-To: <4d30bb7f-e6fd-409e-8326-e81d337fde72@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Ariene, I take it that you want to record a response to VideoSlide, and you want to allow a response to take place any time during either VideoSlide or ResponseSlide, but no later. Is that right? What Durations do you use for VideoSlide & ResponseSlide? Repeating JoAnn's question, what Time Limit and End Action do you use for the input mask on VideoSlide? How many input masks do you have on VideoSlide? What PreRelease do you use on ResponseSlide (PreRelease for VideoSlide should not matter)? When you give your failed test responses, what stimulus is running at the time of response? How many ms after the onset of VideoSlide do you give those failed responses (you could roughly measure that with a stopwatch)? Oh, and what verion of E-Prime do you use? And what device do you use for getting responses? Any possibility of intermittent failures in your response hardware? -- David McFarlane At 10/2/2014 12:25 PM Thursday, JoAnn Silkes wrote: >What are the Time Limit and End Action for your stimulus clips? If >you don't want a response to terminate the video, your Time Limit >(under Duration/Input) should be set for as long as you want it to >be recorded, and End Action should be set to "none". So, for >instance, I have a protocol in which I want a response to be >recorded any time up to 4000 ms after presentation, but the duration >of the stimulus is only 3000 ms, so I've set the Time Limit to 4000, >which allows it to record for that extra 1000 ms. > >JoAnn. > > > >On Thursday, October 2, 2014 8:16:53 AM UTC-7, Ariene Caloia wrote: >Dear David, JoAnn & David, > >Thank you all very much for your responses. I apologise for the >delay in getting back to you, I was out of office yesterday. > >The experiment is a reaction time task that will be used with fMRI, >the video clips are of moves in sport, and participants are required >to respond to how they believe play is progressing. Session proc is >structured as 'TextDisplay3, InLine1, Welcome, TextDisplay 2, >blockproc (TextDisplay1, VideoSlide, ResponseSlide), Endslide'. >My pre-release setting is 0, Input Masks End Action set to None >VideoSlide.RTTime, VideoSlide.RT & VideoSlide.ACC = 0, >VideoSlide.CRESP & VideoSlide.RESP = blank > >As it is a reaction time task it is quite important that response >data is logged all throughout the stimulus, and a little beyond too. >And I do not want to terminate the clip once a response is made as I >wish to record brain activity through the entirety of the video. In >my testing, having purposefully responded AFTER the stimulus clip, >I'm consistently finding some are being recorded and some are not, >but I have not seen any consistency as to specifically which ones >are and which are not recorded. > >It seems odd to me that the program should not allow me to measure a >response beyond the stimulus without terminating the video for a >reaction time task...I could record the reaction time manually >whilst the participant is in the scanner, but this is not ideal. >Therefore would be very grateful if anyone has any further suggestions! > >Thank you again, your time and help is greatly appreciated! > >Best, > >Ariene -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/542d8a0d.6839320a.5e90.089cSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Thu Oct 2 17:27:24 2014 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 13:27:24 -0400 Subject: Image remains visible at 1ms presentation time In-Reply-To: <24e91c45-4a16-45e8-82bf-e7648ac80997@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: What JoAnn said. Plus, thoroughly study the "Critical Timing" chapter in the User's Guide that came with E-Prime. (Even better if you can study that chapter in the Guide that came with EP1 instead of the new EP2 edition.) ----- David McFarlane E-Prime training online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) /---- Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) You may reach PST's trained staff (and other support facilities) at https://support.pstnet.com . 3) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. \---- At 10/2/2014 11:19 AM Thursday, JoAnn Silkes wrote: >So far as I understand it, it's not possible to get as fast as a 1 >ms presentation rate due to the limitations of the refresh rate of >the computer monitor. With a 100 Hz refresh rate, the quickest >presentation that you can achieve is 10 ms; you would need a 1000 Hz >refresh rate for a 1 ms presentation, which I don't think exists. >I've also found that, depending on the computer I'm using, sometimes >asking EPrime to present something for just a single frame (i.e., 10 >ms when the refresh rate is 100 Hz), the processor can't quite keep >up and it ends up dropping frames, so the minimum I can really do is >two frames (in this example, 20 ms). My guess is that you've got a >mismatch between refresh rate and requested exposure duration, and >that's throwing everything off. > >Another thing to think about is whether you're using masking, or >just relying on the rapid presentation rate. Perception of >extraordinarily brief presentations is still likely, especially for >images, if you don't have adequate masks present. > >Good luck figuring it out. > >JoAnn. > > >On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 11:39:17 PM UTC-7, Tan Li wrote: >Hi! > >I'm starting out with E-prime and using it for a psychology >experiment, where I'm employing a image prime. Even when I change >the duration of presentation of the image to 1 ms, I can still see >the image flash during the run rather than appearing "invisible". >Another study took <14 ms for the primes to appear invisible. > >On DataAid, there is no ActionDelay for the image. DurationError is >-1, and OnsetDelay ranges from 0-1 ms. Each image is about 240KB. > >Would anyone have any idea what's happening? I haven't been able to >find an answer in the database... > >Any reply is much appreciated! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/542d8b00.6437320a.7166.0814SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. From huw.green at gmail.com Fri Oct 3 17:47:43 2014 From: huw.green at gmail.com (huw.green at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 10:47:43 -0700 Subject: Inline Object to sub-objects in Feedback Slide Message-ID: Hi All, First off, a huge thankyou to all the contributors to this group. I have been learning to program in E-Prime and have picked up an enormous amount just from browsing other people's queries here. I have *almost* enough now for the study I want to run. However, I would ideally like to present a variable financial reward (contingent on RT in a slide object) alongside other info in a feedback slide. I know it's possible for an inline object to refer to a slide object/text object etc, but is there a way to make an inline object "speak to" the smaller sub-objects in a feedback slide? I have been unable to do this so far and I wonder what I'm missing. Many thanks! Huw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/426ebcab-5e19-4423-9d55-4d9a07b4748b%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspape at cognitology.eu Sat Oct 4 15:54:20 2014 From: mspape at cognitology.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Michiel_Sovij=C3=A4rvi-Spap=C3=A9?=) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 18:54:20 +0300 Subject: Inline Object to sub-objects in Feedback Slide In-Reply-To: <426ebcab-5e19-4423-9d55-4d9a07b4748b@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Huw, It is possible, but not as easy as one would like. Basically, if I remember correctly, it involves referencing the slide (dim x as slide, set x =, etc), capturing and casting the “children” objects, and then changing these. I think there’s an example somewhere in E-Prime with the click-able objects example experiment, such a thing would generally require a similar procedure. That said: this is an awful amount of work for what you can generally, easily do by 1) adding attribute references to the slide, 2) using multiple slide states. Best, Michiel Spape (also, we have examples of this kind of problem in the E-Primer book, as well as an economic paradigm: http://www.amazon.com/The-E-Primer-Introduction-Psychological-Experiments/dp/9087281838/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8 &qid=1412438005&sr=8-6&keywords=e-primer ) From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of huw.green at gmail.com Sent: 03 October 2014 20:48 To: e-prime at googlegroups.com Subject: Inline Object to sub-objects in Feedback Slide Hi All, First off, a huge thankyou to all the contributors to this group. I have been learning to program in E-Prime and have picked up an enormous amount just from browsing other people's queries here. I have *almost* enough now for the study I want to run. However, I would ideally like to present a variable financial reward (contingent on RT in a slide object) alongside other info in a feedback slide. I know it's possible for an inline object to refer to a slide object/text object etc, but is there a way to make an inline object "speak to" the smaller sub-objects in a feedback slide? I have been unable to do this so far and I wonder what I'm missing. Many thanks! Huw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/426ebcab-5e19-4423-9d55-4d9a07b4748b%40googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. 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How can I upload the images but maintain the original size? Thank you!!! Mariana -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/6f483bc0-f18c-4b8f-b125-8e8a3784667e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lauriane.faraut at gmail.com Mon Oct 6 10:18:00 2014 From: lauriane.faraut at gmail.com (Lauriane Faraut) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 03:18:00 -0700 Subject: Error number 10041 Message-ID: HI, I'm a novice in the using of Eprime. I didn't have problem to present on the screen 3 pictures where only one is the positive stimulus and the two other are the negative one. However, after 3-4 trials, the following message appears: "The value for the index parameter is either invalid or is not within range for this collection. Error Number: 10041". I didn't find in the script the issue and impossible to have any information on that error number. What I#m suppose to do? I think I must modify the script... Cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/90271b4b-23d3-4d2e-bead-21c5091cf238%40googlegroups.com. 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Wondering if maybe I'm missing something and anybody has any suggestions for how I might be able to make this happen. Thanks for any ideas that you may have. JoAnn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/5698077d-6ae6-4a83-824d-da6f6da04e02%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From heathericmatheson at gmail.com Thu Oct 9 14:03:12 2014 From: heathericmatheson at gmail.com (Heath Matheson) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 10:03:12 -0400 Subject: Randomly select from a list of stimuli but include breaks after a pre determined number of trials In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Here is the solution, provided by friendly Alexandre Comte: - In the Blocklist define 2 levels. The first one is for the TrialProc (weight=20) and the second one for the BreakProc (weight=1). - In the properties of Blocklist, set the number of cycles at 5, with a sequential order. - TrialList: random order - finally insert your break in the TrialProc Heath On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Heath Matheson wrote: > Hi all, > > I have an experiment in which I am showing 100 stimuli to participants and > am recording object names. I would like to show 20 images, randomly > selected from the 100, then have a break, then show another randomly > selected 20 images, etc, until all 100 have been shown across 5 blocks with > breaks in between them. > > My experiment looks like this: > > SessionProc > ---Instructions > ---Blocklist (with one level) > -------Triallist (with a list of all 100 stimuli) > -------TrialProc > -------------Fixation > -------------SlidePicture > ---End > > So right now, I can show the 100 images randomly all the way through. I > think to introduce breaks I need to play with nesting but everything I am > doing doesn't work and seems overly complicated. The problem is easily > solved if I don't worry about randomizing the presentation of all 100 > stimuli but this is an important part of the experiment. > > Any suggestions for how to include periodic breaks? > > Thanks! > > Heath > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/e-prime/nlaTZj7pfSE/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/ec6e081f-cb87-4475-9611-47d985f88d0a%40googlegroups.com > > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- *Heath E Matheson PhDPostdoctoral Fellow* Center for Cognitive Neuroscience University of Pennsylvania 3720 Walnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-6241 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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For example, I just learn how to get a slide object to change its parameters: Dim theSlide As Slide Set theSlide = CSlide(Rte.GetObject("Slide2")) I discovered that I can change the coordinates by using theSlide.x=200; However, how other attribute does the slide object have? I don't know, because when I press theSlide. nothing happens. I cannot figure out any pattern that makes it not working. I try to compile/save the file. I try to run it. Nothing changes. Anybody has the same problem? Thank you Valerio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/4bfa036d-14f1-41f3-baa1-4afc580433b5%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valerio.biscione at gmail.com Fri Oct 10 09:58:21 2014 From: valerio.biscione at gmail.com (Vaaal) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 02:58:21 -0700 Subject: Autocomplete doesn't work everytime In-Reply-To: <4bfa036d-14f1-41f3-baa1-4afc580433b5@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Just to be clear, the correct sintax would be theSlide.States(Slide2.ActiveState).x=100 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/48290041-c3d8-48bc-bc25-f7f175479f7c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healthy.aging.usc at gmail.com Fri Oct 10 18:49:50 2014 From: healthy.aging.usc at gmail.com (Tara Gruenewald) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 11:49:50 -0700 Subject: PASAT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello! Our lab is looking to use a PASAT-C in EPrime for a study we are trying to start up. I know you posted a year ago, but I am wondering if you succeeded in finding or developing a program? Thanks so much! On Monday, July 29, 2013 10:45:18 AM UTC-7, Edward Justin Modestino, Ph.D. wrote: > > My boss wants us to have a PASAT for use in e-prime. It is for those who > are handicapped and cannot do other processing tasks. If anyone has > created such thing, please contact me to let me know. I am a complete > novice with e-prime. > Thanks, > Dr. Modestino > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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On Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:53:56 AM UTC-8, NordicDave wrote: > > Dear all, > > I am trying to program a Paced Auditory Serial Addition Task (PASAT) and > am > wondering if anybody has programmed one of these before and can help. The > task essentially involves presenting numbers to participant and asking > them > to indicate what the sum of the previous two numbers is. > > I have a few problems programming this which people may be able to > independently help with if no one has a PASAT task. First how would I > allow > participants to indicate that the answer is a two digit number. Second how > would I indicate to eprime that the correct answer is the sum of the > previous two answers? > > Best > David > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/7496e386-d480-4fde-b7b2-b3cf8f03565a%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From liwenna at gmail.com Sat Oct 11 19:27:09 2014 From: liwenna at gmail.com (Anne-Wil) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 12:27:09 -0700 Subject: Joystick attributes fail in 2.0.10 In-Reply-To: <356de062-c032-4f82-ba66-ffbf1e202f10@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Steffen, Trying to get a joystick running in e-prime for the first time ever, I run into problems that seem similar to those you encountered. Did you happen to find a solution? Best, Anne-Wil On Friday, 24 January 2014 17:55:23 UTC, Steffen Pohl wrote: > > Hey all, > > I've got a joystick script written for E-Prime 2.0.8.90, that works > abolutely fine for that, but using it in any 2.0.10 build leads the script > generator to not recognizing the attributes of the CJoystickResponseData object > used. These are for example IsButton1 to IsButton8 and CursorX / CursorY. > I tried to consult the changelog between 2.0.8 and 2.0.10 and the reference > guide for joystick usage, but found nothing in there that would explain > that. The code I use is in fact nearly the same like the example described > in the reference. > > For clarity a snippet that reproduces this: > > Set joyresponse = > CJoystickResponseData(Joystick.History(Joystick.History.Count)) > c.SetAttrib "ResponseBtn1", joyresponse.IsButton1 > > I am experiencing an error in the second line, where IsButton1 is not > accepted as a valid Attribute of joyresponse. > > For my projects I am using a professional edition of E-Prime. Also there > is one joystick attached to the machine, that is installed and accessible > and works absolutely fine - in 2.0.8. > > So why doesn't it work for the newest build and how can I fix that? > > many thanks in advance, > Steffen > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/70cb2f82-2e93-499b-869c-c9c4dffee07c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d.vinson at ucl.ac.uk Wed Oct 1 07:45:06 2014 From: d.vinson at ucl.ac.uk (David Vinson) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 08:45:06 +0100 Subject: Data Logging Problem In-Reply-To: <0E254C17-1808-462A-AEC5-5385838808AF@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi Ariene, My first thought is that your response object is ending before a response is made (ie, RT > Duration) but this is a vague guess as I am not exactly sure what your problem is. Can you clarify some details about your experiment: what is the sequence of events and what is the participant meant to do (in very basic terms). And then for the problem responses, what has a value of zero? For example ResponseSlide.RESP = 0? or ResponseSlide.RT = 0? or ResponseSlide.ACC = 0? all the best, DavidV On 30/09/2014 17:36, Ariene Caloia wrote: > I'm very new to E-Prime so please forgive my ignorance, but I'm having some problems with the data logging and would be very grateful for any suggestions. > > I'm putting together a video based experiment which seems to all run fine, however the occasional response is not logging correctly and appears as 0. Having run the experiment again a few times, I've found that there is a lack of consistency with regard to which stimulus clip response is not logged, so I don't think the problem can be attributed to the video files themselves (which are in .wmv format - I converted some of the files which were .avi, as I was originally concerned that the different file types may have contributed to the problem, or that the .avi files might've been too large to process smoothly) > > I've also tried configuring the TextDisplay1 slide to log responses, in addition to the VideoSlide and ResponseSlide, but nor has this solved the problem. > > All ideas would be warmly welcomed, and I will do my best to answer any further questions (but speaking in layman's terms will help me!) > > Many thanks, > > Ariene > -- David Vinson, Ph.D. Institute for Multimodal Communication http://institute-for-multimodal-communication.org Department of Experimental Psychology University College London 26 Bedford Way, London WC1H 0AP Tel +44 (0)20 7679 5311 (UCL internal ext. 25311) Out now: Royal Society Theme issue "Language as a multimodal phenomenon" http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/site/2014/multimodal.xhtml -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/542BB102.5000100%40ucl.ac.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. From heathericmatheson at gmail.com Wed Oct 1 18:24:54 2014 From: heathericmatheson at gmail.com (Heath Matheson) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 11:24:54 -0700 Subject: Randomly select from a list of stimuli but include breaks after a pre determined number of trials Message-ID: Hi all, I have an experiment in which I am showing 100 stimuli to participants and am recording object names. I would like to show 20 images, randomly selected from the 100, then have a break, then show another randomly selected 20 images, etc, until all 100 have been shown across 5 blocks with breaks in between them. My experiment looks like this: SessionProc ---Instructions ---Blocklist (with one level) -------Triallist (with a list of all 100 stimuli) -------TrialProc -------------Fixation -------------SlidePicture ---End So right now, I can show the 100 images randomly all the way through. I think to introduce breaks I need to play with nesting but everything I am doing doesn't work and seems overly complicated. The problem is easily solved if I don't worry about randomizing the presentation of all 100 stimuli but this is an important part of the experiment. Any suggestions for how to include periodic breaks? Thanks! Heath -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/ec6e081f-cb87-4475-9611-47d985f88d0a%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From swordeity at gmail.com Thu Oct 2 06:39:17 2014 From: swordeity at gmail.com (Tan Li) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 23:39:17 -0700 Subject: Image remains visible at 1ms presentation time Message-ID: Hi! I'm starting out with E-prime and using it for a psychology experiment, where I'm employing a image prime. Even when I change the duration of presentation of the image to 1 ms, I can still see the image flash during the run rather than appearing "invisible". Another study took <14 ms for the primes to appear invisible. On DataAid, there is no ActionDelay for the image. DurationError is -1, and OnsetDelay ranges from 0-1 ms. Each image is about 240KB. Would anyone have any idea what's happening? I haven't been able to find an answer in the database... Any reply is much appreciated! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/7200fa93-17c7-4af3-99fc-57318a5f52c4%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arienelouanacaloia at googlemail.com Thu Oct 2 15:16:53 2014 From: arienelouanacaloia at googlemail.com (Ariene Caloia) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 08:16:53 -0700 Subject: Data Logging Problem In-Reply-To: <542BB102.5000100@ucl.ac.uk> Message-ID: Dear David, JoAnn & David, Thank you all very much for your responses. I apologise for the delay in getting back to you, I was out of office yesterday. The experiment is a reaction time task that will be used with fMRI, the video clips are of moves in sport, and participants are required to respond to how they believe play is progressing. Session proc is structured as 'TextDisplay3, InLine1, Welcome, TextDisplay 2, blockproc (TextDisplay1, VideoSlide, ResponseSlide), Endslide'. My pre-release setting is 0, Input Masks End Action set to None VideoSlide.RTTime, VideoSlide.RT & VideoSlide.ACC = 0, VideoSlide.CRESP & VideoSlide.RESP = blank As it is a reaction time task it is quite important that response data is logged all throughout the stimulus, and a little beyond too. And I do not want to terminate the clip once a response is made as I wish to record brain activity through the entirety of the video. In my testing, having purposefully responded AFTER the stimulus clip, I'm consistently finding some are being recorded and some are not, but I have not seen any consistency as to specifically which ones are and which are not recorded. It seems odd to me that the program should not allow me to measure a response beyond the stimulus without terminating the video for a reaction time task...I could record the reaction time manually whilst the participant is in the scanner, but this is not ideal. Therefore would be very grateful if anyone has any further suggestions! Thank you again, your time and help is greatly appreciated! Best, Ariene -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/773d2ef5-42b5-4fa5-abb5-9be6dc8381eb%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. From jsilkes at uw.edu Thu Oct 2 15:19:57 2014 From: jsilkes at uw.edu (JoAnn Silkes) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 08:19:57 -0700 Subject: Image remains visible at 1ms presentation time In-Reply-To: <7200fa93-17c7-4af3-99fc-57318a5f52c4@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: So far as I understand it, it's not possible to get as fast as a 1 ms presentation rate due to the limitations of the refresh rate of the computer monitor. With a 100 Hz refresh rate, the quickest presentation that you can achieve is 10 ms; you would need a 1000 Hz refresh rate for a 1 ms presentation, which I don't think exists. I've also found that, depending on the computer I'm using, sometimes asking EPrime to present something for just a single frame (i.e., 10 ms when the refresh rate is 100 Hz), the processor can't quite keep up and it ends up dropping frames, so the minimum I can really do is two frames (in this example, 20 ms). My guess is that you've got a mismatch between refresh rate and requested exposure duration, and that's throwing everything off. Another thing to think about is whether you're using masking, or just relying on the rapid presentation rate. Perception of extraordinarily brief presentations is still likely, especially for images, if you don't have adequate masks present. Good luck figuring it out. JoAnn. On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 11:39:17 PM UTC-7, Tan Li wrote: > > Hi! > > I'm starting out with E-prime and using it for a psychology experiment, > where I'm employing a image prime. Even when I change the duration of > presentation of the image to 1 ms, I can still see the image flash during > the run rather than appearing "invisible". Another study took <14 ms for > the primes to appear invisible. > > On DataAid, there is no ActionDelay for the image. DurationError is -1, > and OnsetDelay ranges from 0-1 ms. Each image is about 240KB. > > Would anyone have any idea what's happening? I haven't been able to find > an answer in the database... > > Any reply is much appreciated! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/24e91c45-4a16-45e8-82bf-e7648ac80997%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deanne.adams at gmail.com Thu Oct 2 15:22:37 2014 From: deanne.adams at gmail.com (Deanne Adams) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 08:22:37 -0700 Subject: drawing board In-Reply-To: <003301cdfaf8$4cf3ec60$e6dbc520$@eu> Message-ID: Hey Michael and Michiel, We are trying to get an Eprime 2.0 study going using a Wacom tablet and I was wondering whether Michael ever got his study to work. Michiel- I downloaded your experiment and tried to run it but I am experiencing an error in Eprime with the ShowCanvas component. I'm not sure if it is because I am trying to run it in a newer version of Eprime or not. Any advice? Thanks, Deanne On Friday, January 25, 2013 7:34:20 AM UTC-5, Michiel Sovij?rvi-Spap? wrote: > > Hi, > > 1) Yes, I have. Attached is an experiment - don't know if it still works > (I wrote it about 3 years ago), but have a look. > > 2) Not really, we used one of those wacom tablets (before tablets got a > different meaning). The only thing you have to make sure to look for is to > see if they support a relative/absolute function: e.g., top right corner > drawer can mean the top-right corner, but also, like a mouse pointer, the > centre, with offset at previous location. > > Best, > > Michiel > > > > Dr. Michiel M. Sovijarvi-Spap? > > Helsinki Institute for Information Technology > > Aalto & Helsingin Yliopisto. > > > > *From:* e-p... at googlegroups.com [mailto:... at googlegroups.com > ] *On Behalf Of *schultem > *Sent:* 24 January 2013 10:39 > *To:* e-p... at googlegroups.com > *Subject:* drawing board > > > > hi all, > > > > I am interested in collecting data with e-prime and a drawing board (eg > http://www.wacom.com/en/products/pen-tablets/intuos) > > the idea would be to collect coordinates (x,y) of the pencil at a high > resolution (whatever is possible) during a task where the participant moves > the mouse cursor on screen to different locations. > > > > Here are my questions: > > 1) has anybody done something like that already? > > 2) can anybody recommend a drawing tablet for that purpose? > > > > Thanks > > Michael > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "E-Prime" group. > To post to this group, send email to e-p... at googlegroups.com > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > e-prime+u... at googlegroups.com . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/9WffwQbAdXkJ. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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So, for instance, I have a protocol in which I want a response to be recorded any time up to 4000 ms after presentation, but the duration of the stimulus is only 3000 ms, so I've set the Time Limit to 4000, which allows it to record for that extra 1000 ms. JoAnn. On Thursday, October 2, 2014 8:16:53 AM UTC-7, Ariene Caloia wrote: > > Dear David, JoAnn & David, > > Thank you all very much for your responses. I apologise for the delay in > getting back to you, I was out of office yesterday. > > The experiment is a reaction time task that will be used with fMRI, the > video clips are of moves in sport, and participants are required to respond > to how they believe play is progressing. Session proc is structured as > 'TextDisplay3, InLine1, Welcome, TextDisplay 2, blockproc (TextDisplay1, > VideoSlide, ResponseSlide), Endslide'. > My pre-release setting is 0, Input Masks End Action set to None > VideoSlide.RTTime, VideoSlide.RT & VideoSlide.ACC = 0, VideoSlide.CRESP & > VideoSlide.RESP = blank > > As it is a reaction time task it is quite important that response data is > logged all throughout the stimulus, and a little beyond too. And I do not > want to terminate the clip once a response is made as I wish to record > brain activity through the entirety of the video. In my testing, having > purposefully responded AFTER the stimulus clip, I'm consistently finding > some are being recorded and some are not, but I have not seen any > consistency as to specifically which ones are and which are not recorded. > > It seems odd to me that the program should not allow me to measure a > response beyond the stimulus without terminating the video for a reaction > time task...I could record the reaction time manually whilst the > participant is in the scanner, but this is not ideal. Therefore would be > very grateful if anyone has any further suggestions! > > Thank you again, your time and help is greatly appreciated! > > Best, > > Ariene > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/4d30bb7f-e6fd-409e-8326-e81d337fde72%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Thu Oct 2 17:23:21 2014 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 13:23:21 -0400 Subject: Data Logging Problem In-Reply-To: <4d30bb7f-e6fd-409e-8326-e81d337fde72@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Ariene, I take it that you want to record a response to VideoSlide, and you want to allow a response to take place any time during either VideoSlide or ResponseSlide, but no later. Is that right? What Durations do you use for VideoSlide & ResponseSlide? Repeating JoAnn's question, what Time Limit and End Action do you use for the input mask on VideoSlide? How many input masks do you have on VideoSlide? What PreRelease do you use on ResponseSlide (PreRelease for VideoSlide should not matter)? When you give your failed test responses, what stimulus is running at the time of response? How many ms after the onset of VideoSlide do you give those failed responses (you could roughly measure that with a stopwatch)? Oh, and what verion of E-Prime do you use? And what device do you use for getting responses? Any possibility of intermittent failures in your response hardware? -- David McFarlane At 10/2/2014 12:25 PM Thursday, JoAnn Silkes wrote: >What are the Time Limit and End Action for your stimulus clips? If >you don't want a response to terminate the video, your Time Limit >(under Duration/Input) should be set for as long as you want it to >be recorded, and End Action should be set to "none". So, for >instance, I have a protocol in which I want a response to be >recorded any time up to 4000 ms after presentation, but the duration >of the stimulus is only 3000 ms, so I've set the Time Limit to 4000, >which allows it to record for that extra 1000 ms. > >JoAnn. > > > >On Thursday, October 2, 2014 8:16:53 AM UTC-7, Ariene Caloia wrote: >Dear David, JoAnn & David, > >Thank you all very much for your responses. I apologise for the >delay in getting back to you, I was out of office yesterday. > >The experiment is a reaction time task that will be used with fMRI, >the video clips are of moves in sport, and participants are required >to respond to how they believe play is progressing. Session proc is >structured as 'TextDisplay3, InLine1, Welcome, TextDisplay 2, >blockproc (TextDisplay1, VideoSlide, ResponseSlide), Endslide'. >My pre-release setting is 0, Input Masks End Action set to None >VideoSlide.RTTime, VideoSlide.RT & VideoSlide.ACC = 0, >VideoSlide.CRESP & VideoSlide.RESP = blank > >As it is a reaction time task it is quite important that response >data is logged all throughout the stimulus, and a little beyond too. >And I do not want to terminate the clip once a response is made as I >wish to record brain activity through the entirety of the video. In >my testing, having purposefully responded AFTER the stimulus clip, >I'm consistently finding some are being recorded and some are not, >but I have not seen any consistency as to specifically which ones >are and which are not recorded. > >It seems odd to me that the program should not allow me to measure a >response beyond the stimulus without terminating the video for a >reaction time task...I could record the reaction time manually >whilst the participant is in the scanner, but this is not ideal. >Therefore would be very grateful if anyone has any further suggestions! > >Thank you again, your time and help is greatly appreciated! > >Best, > >Ariene -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/542d8a0d.6839320a.5e90.089cSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. From mcfarla9 at msu.edu Thu Oct 2 17:27:24 2014 From: mcfarla9 at msu.edu (David McFarlane) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 13:27:24 -0400 Subject: Image remains visible at 1ms presentation time In-Reply-To: <24e91c45-4a16-45e8-82bf-e7648ac80997@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: What JoAnn said. Plus, thoroughly study the "Critical Timing" chapter in the User's Guide that came with E-Prime. (Even better if you can study that chapter in the Guide that came with EP1 instead of the new EP2 edition.) ----- David McFarlane E-Prime training online: http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) /---- Stock reminder: 1) I do not work for PST. 2) You may reach PST's trained staff (and other support facilities) at https://support.pstnet.com . 3) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others. \---- At 10/2/2014 11:19 AM Thursday, JoAnn Silkes wrote: >So far as I understand it, it's not possible to get as fast as a 1 >ms presentation rate due to the limitations of the refresh rate of >the computer monitor. With a 100 Hz refresh rate, the quickest >presentation that you can achieve is 10 ms; you would need a 1000 Hz >refresh rate for a 1 ms presentation, which I don't think exists. >I've also found that, depending on the computer I'm using, sometimes >asking EPrime to present something for just a single frame (i.e., 10 >ms when the refresh rate is 100 Hz), the processor can't quite keep >up and it ends up dropping frames, so the minimum I can really do is >two frames (in this example, 20 ms). My guess is that you've got a >mismatch between refresh rate and requested exposure duration, and >that's throwing everything off. > >Another thing to think about is whether you're using masking, or >just relying on the rapid presentation rate. Perception of >extraordinarily brief presentations is still likely, especially for >images, if you don't have adequate masks present. > >Good luck figuring it out. > >JoAnn. > > >On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 11:39:17 PM UTC-7, Tan Li wrote: >Hi! > >I'm starting out with E-prime and using it for a psychology >experiment, where I'm employing a image prime. Even when I change >the duration of presentation of the image to 1 ms, I can still see >the image flash during the run rather than appearing "invisible". >Another study took <14 ms for the primes to appear invisible. > >On DataAid, there is no ActionDelay for the image. DurationError is >-1, and OnsetDelay ranges from 0-1 ms. Each image is about 240KB. > >Would anyone have any idea what's happening? I haven't been able to >find an answer in the database... > >Any reply is much appreciated! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/542d8b00.6437320a.7166.0814SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. From huw.green at gmail.com Fri Oct 3 17:47:43 2014 From: huw.green at gmail.com (huw.green at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 10:47:43 -0700 Subject: Inline Object to sub-objects in Feedback Slide Message-ID: Hi All, First off, a huge thankyou to all the contributors to this group. I have been learning to program in E-Prime and have picked up an enormous amount just from browsing other people's queries here. I have *almost* enough now for the study I want to run. However, I would ideally like to present a variable financial reward (contingent on RT in a slide object) alongside other info in a feedback slide. I know it's possible for an inline object to refer to a slide object/text object etc, but is there a way to make an inline object "speak to" the smaller sub-objects in a feedback slide? I have been unable to do this so far and I wonder what I'm missing. Many thanks! Huw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/426ebcab-5e19-4423-9d55-4d9a07b4748b%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspape at cognitology.eu Sat Oct 4 15:54:20 2014 From: mspape at cognitology.eu (=?utf-8?Q?Michiel_Sovij=C3=A4rvi-Spap=C3=A9?=) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 18:54:20 +0300 Subject: Inline Object to sub-objects in Feedback Slide In-Reply-To: <426ebcab-5e19-4423-9d55-4d9a07b4748b@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Huw, It is possible, but not as easy as one would like. Basically, if I remember correctly, it involves referencing the slide (dim x as slide, set x =, etc), capturing and casting the ?children? objects, and then changing these. I think there?s an example somewhere in E-Prime with the click-able objects example experiment, such a thing would generally require a similar procedure. That said: this is an awful amount of work for what you can generally, easily do by 1) adding attribute references to the slide, 2) using multiple slide states. Best, Michiel Spape (also, we have examples of this kind of problem in the E-Primer book, as well as an economic paradigm: http://www.amazon.com/The-E-Primer-Introduction-Psychological-Experiments/dp/9087281838/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8 &qid=1412438005&sr=8-6&keywords=e-primer ) From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of huw.green at gmail.com Sent: 03 October 2014 20:48 To: e-prime at googlegroups.com Subject: Inline Object to sub-objects in Feedback Slide Hi All, First off, a huge thankyou to all the contributors to this group. I have been learning to program in E-Prime and have picked up an enormous amount just from browsing other people's queries here. I have *almost* enough now for the study I want to run. However, I would ideally like to present a variable financial reward (contingent on RT in a slide object) alongside other info in a feedback slide. I know it's possible for an inline object to refer to a slide object/text object etc, but is there a way to make an inline object "speak to" the smaller sub-objects in a feedback slide? I have been unable to do this so far and I wonder what I'm missing. Many thanks! Huw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/426ebcab-5e19-4423-9d55-4d9a07b4748b%40googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. 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I didn't have problem to present on the screen 3 pictures where only one is the positive stimulus and the two other are the negative one. However, after 3-4 trials, the following message appears: "The value for the index parameter is either invalid or is not within range for this collection. Error Number: 10041". I didn't find in the script the issue and impossible to have any information on that error number. What I#m suppose to do? I think I must modify the script... Cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/90271b4b-23d3-4d2e-bead-21c5091cf238%40googlegroups.com. 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Wondering if maybe I'm missing something and anybody has any suggestions for how I might be able to make this happen. Thanks for any ideas that you may have. JoAnn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/5698077d-6ae6-4a83-824d-da6f6da04e02%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From heathericmatheson at gmail.com Thu Oct 9 14:03:12 2014 From: heathericmatheson at gmail.com (Heath Matheson) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 10:03:12 -0400 Subject: Randomly select from a list of stimuli but include breaks after a pre determined number of trials In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Here is the solution, provided by friendly Alexandre Comte: - In the Blocklist define 2 levels. The first one is for the TrialProc (weight=20) and the second one for the BreakProc (weight=1). - In the properties of Blocklist, set the number of cycles at 5, with a sequential order. - TrialList: random order - finally insert your break in the TrialProc Heath On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Heath Matheson wrote: > Hi all, > > I have an experiment in which I am showing 100 stimuli to participants and > am recording object names. I would like to show 20 images, randomly > selected from the 100, then have a break, then show another randomly > selected 20 images, etc, until all 100 have been shown across 5 blocks with > breaks in between them. > > My experiment looks like this: > > SessionProc > ---Instructions > ---Blocklist (with one level) > -------Triallist (with a list of all 100 stimuli) > -------TrialProc > -------------Fixation > -------------SlidePicture > ---End > > So right now, I can show the 100 images randomly all the way through. I > think to introduce breaks I need to play with nesting but everything I am > doing doesn't work and seems overly complicated. The problem is easily > solved if I don't worry about randomizing the presentation of all 100 > stimuli but this is an important part of the experiment. > > Any suggestions for how to include periodic breaks? > > Thanks! > > Heath > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "E-Prime" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/e-prime/nlaTZj7pfSE/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/ec6e081f-cb87-4475-9611-47d985f88d0a%40googlegroups.com > > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- *Heath E Matheson PhDPostdoctoral Fellow* Center for Cognitive Neuroscience University of Pennsylvania 3720 Walnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-6241 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. 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For example, I just learn how to get a slide object to change its parameters: Dim theSlide As Slide Set theSlide = CSlide(Rte.GetObject("Slide2")) I discovered that I can change the coordinates by using theSlide.x=200; However, how other attribute does the slide object have? I don't know, because when I press theSlide. nothing happens. I cannot figure out any pattern that makes it not working. I try to compile/save the file. I try to run it. Nothing changes. Anybody has the same problem? Thank you Valerio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/4bfa036d-14f1-41f3-baa1-4afc580433b5%40googlegroups.com. 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On Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:53:56 AM UTC-8, NordicDave wrote: > > Dear all, > > I am trying to program a Paced Auditory Serial Addition Task (PASAT) and > am > wondering if anybody has programmed one of these before and can help. The > task essentially involves presenting numbers to participant and asking > them > to indicate what the sum of the previous two numbers is. > > I have a few problems programming this which people may be able to > independently help with if no one has a PASAT task. First how would I > allow > participants to indicate that the answer is a two digit number. Second how > would I indicate to eprime that the correct answer is the sum of the > previous two answers? > > Best > David > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/e-prime/7496e386-d480-4fde-b7b2-b3cf8f03565a%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From liwenna at gmail.com Sat Oct 11 19:27:09 2014 From: liwenna at gmail.com (Anne-Wil) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 12:27:09 -0700 Subject: Joystick attributes fail in 2.0.10 In-Reply-To: <356de062-c032-4f82-ba66-ffbf1e202f10@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi Steffen, Trying to get a joystick running in e-prime for the first time ever, I run into problems that seem similar to those you encountered. Did you happen to find a solution? Best, Anne-Wil On Friday, 24 January 2014 17:55:23 UTC, Steffen Pohl wrote: > > Hey all, > > I've got a joystick script written for E-Prime 2.0.8.90, that works > abolutely fine for that, but using it in any 2.0.10 build leads the script > generator to not recognizing the attributes of the CJoystickResponseData object > used. These are for example IsButton1 to IsButton8 and CursorX / CursorY. > I tried to consult the changelog between 2.0.8 and 2.0.10 and the reference > guide for joystick usage, but found nothing in there that would explain > that. The code I use is in fact nearly the same like the example described > in the reference. > > For clarity a snippet that reproduces this: > > Set joyresponse = > CJoystickResponseData(Joystick.History(Joystick.History.Count)) > c.SetAttrib "ResponseBtn1", joyresponse.IsButton1 > > I am experiencing an error in the second line, where IsButton1 is not > accepted as a valid Attribute of joyresponse. > > For my projects I am using a professional edition of E-Prime. Also there > is one joystick attached to the machine, that is installed and accessible > and works absolutely fine - in 2.0.8. > > So why doesn't it work for the newest build and how can I fix that? > > many thanks in advance, > Steffen > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to e-prime+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to e-prime at googlegroups.com. 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