I use Sun Virtual Box. The installer runs fine. I have tried with both the install files copied from the CD and a mounted .iso file. when it gets near the end of the installation process, The virtual machine crashes. I have tried with several versions of vurtual box and on several different laptops with the same results. I had actually come to the conclusion that for some odd reason, e-prime could not be used in a virtual machine. However hearing that someone got it to work, that gives me hope to be able to get it running eventually. Although I should note that this was an XP virtual machine running in both XP and Vista for hosts. Not a mac.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Rick O'Gorman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rickogorman@gmail.com">rickogorman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
Hi Greg,<br>
<br>
I don't remember any problems with installing E-Prime on my VM per se,<br>
only with getting it to see the dongle, which was a pain. This was<br>
partly because I had to learn how to get Virtualbox to allow the guest<br>
OS (WinXP) to see the USB dongle. The first time I did this, Windows<br>
also didn't try to find drivers, so I used Aladdin's HASP driver, but<br>
the wrong kind (but they still worked). The second time (I had to<br>
reinstall when we upgraded from 2.x beta to 2.x gold) I used the right<br>
ones. My bootcamp also failed to look for drivers with the beta (a<br>
pattern?) but did find them for the gold install.<br>
<br>
I think both times I copied across the install file rather than just run<br>
it from the CD--maybe that's a factor?<br>
<br>
Are you using VB, or one of the commercial options (Fusion, Parallels)?<br>
<br>
Rick<br>
<br>
Greg Osenbach wrote:<br>
> Was there anything special you had to do to get e-prime to install in a<br>
> virtual box virtual machine? I have tried installing it in my virtual<br>
> machine several times and it always crashes during the install...<br>
><br>
> Greg<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Rick O'Gorman <<a href="mailto:rickogorman@gmail.com">rickogorman@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rickogorman@gmail.com">rickogorman@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Liwenna:<br>
><br>
> As an aside to your topic, I also have a Mac. You can get a program<br>
> called Virtualbox (<a href="http://www.virtualbox.org" target="_blank">www.virtualbox.org</a> <<a href="http://www.virtualbox.org" target="_blank">http://www.virtualbox.org</a>>)<br>
> for *free* from Sun which does<br>
> the same kind of thing as Parallels. Its a little more techy but I<br>
> didn't have too much trouble setting it up. You still need a legal<br>
> Windows copy, but probably you can get a discounted copy from your univ.<br>
><br>
> I run E-Prime on that setup and it works fine. Getting the dongle<br>
> recognised was a little tricky, as you have to tell Virtualbox to access<br>
> the USB dongle and may also have to get drivers for it (one time I did,<br>
> the next time I didn't as Windows found some itself, not the ones I used<br>
> previously)--I got them from<br>
> <a href="http://www.aladdin.com/support/hasp/enduser.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.aladdin.com/support/hasp/enduser.aspx</a>, using the HASP HL ones<br>
> I think (I tried both options there). It might depend on whether you use<br>
> an individual ddongle, network dongle or no dongle (if that's an<br>
> option).<br>
><br>
> The E-Prime people (PST) are completely unhelpful in this regard, as<br>
> 'they don't support Macs' which is a total cop-out. They went so far as<br>
> to deny any responsibility to help me with my bootcamp Windows<br>
> install--even though its running natively and is as legitimate a version<br>
> of Windows as any other. I found that a disgrace and frankly has made me<br>
> keep a firm eye out for E-Prime alternatives, when the chance presents<br>
> itself.<br>
><br>
> Rick<br>
><br>
> liwenna wrote:<br>
> > Hello Frank,<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks for your quick reply! It would be great if you could try the<br>
> > numbers-thing. At my university I can only 'run' the au3 scripts, and<br>
> > edit them in notepad, but in order to do that I first need to figure<br>
> > out the language... My guess is that if you get the program to run<br>
> > orderly, editing the code is fare more simple, right? But as<br>
> said, ICT<br>
> > guys won't let me. At home I also can't do that as I am the proud<br>
> > owner of a Mac, which I really love but sometimes it's a pain<br>
> (and yes<br>
> > I should get myself some parallels).<br>
> ><br>
> > I am homeworking today but I'll try the script you posted first thing<br>
> > on monday!<br>
> ><br>
> > Sincerely,<br>
> ><br>
> > liwenna.<br>
> ><br>
> > On Apr 16, 8:55 pm, frankbosco <<a href="mailto:goo...@frankbosco.com">goo...@frankbosco.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:goo...@frankbosco.com">goo...@frankbosco.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> >> Hi Liwenna,<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thanks for your message. Re: having autoit automatically insert<br>
> >> subject/session numbers, I have not tried this (now that I think<br>
> about<br>
> >> it, it would be very handy for me)... Perhaps try something like the<br>
> >> following:<br>
> >><br>
> >> To start, you'd need a basic autoit data collection box at the start<br>
> >> of the executable (i.e., before the randomly selected .ebs2 files<br>
> >> begin) - autoit provides a good example of this code in one of their<br>
> >> sample code files (see example file "inputbox.au3") . The next part<br>
> >> (having autoit automatically populate the subject/session values) is<br>
> >> more complicated, but perhaps try something like the following:<br>
> >><br>
> >> In the current code, there are lines that include (something like)<br>
> >> "winwait.open; winwait.close" -- you may be able to tell autoit to<br>
> >> wait until the "enter subject #" box appears (by simply providing<br>
> >> autoit with the name of that box, as is done in my current code with<br>
> >> "E-Run"), then have autoit insert a subject/session number collected<br>
> >> at the start (i.e., from the input box in the previous step).<br>
> You may<br>
> >> be able to tell autoit to wait until "enter Ss #" box appears, then<br>
> >> code it to press "TAB" (x) times, the value from the input box, then<br>
> >> "RETURN" (these can be done with ASCII code). I know it sounds<br>
> silly,<br>
> >> but it might actually work...<br>
> >><br>
> >> Tell you what - I'll play around with this idea (very) late tonight,<br>
> >> then send you a code file if I figure it out... For now, you can<br>
> >> download a newer version of the ebs2 call autoit file from my<br>
> personal<br>
> >> website: [<a href="http://www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3" target="_blank">www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3</a><br>
> <<a href="http://www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3" target="_blank">http://www.frankbosco.com/ebs_call_new.au3</a>>] -- this version<br>
> >> includes code to call a few ebs2 files in a determined sequence<br>
> (after<br>
> >> a series of randomly-selected ebs2 files).<br>
> >><br>
> >> Hope that helps!<br>
> >><br>
> >> Best,<br>
> >> Frank<br>
> >><br>
> >> On Apr 16, 9:56 am, liwenna <<a href="mailto:liwe...@gmail.com">liwe...@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:liwe...@gmail.com">liwe...@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >>> It is like magic!!!<br>
> >>> This is exactly what I need to run my battery of tests. Well...<br>
> almost<br>
> >>> exactly... except for the random part that is. I am trying to<br>
> get that<br>
> >>> part out, yet I am experiencing troubles using auto-it as my<br>
> >>> university ICT guys won't let us install nifty little programs like<br>
> >>> this.<br>
> >>> Would there be a way to have autoit also insert subject and session<br>
> >>> numbers? Perhaps even make a shiny litle autoit interface<br>
> wherein you<br>
> >>> enter subject and session numbers and then run the whole everything<br>
> >>> from that? I'll work on it myself and keep you guys informed if<br>
> >>> something good comes from it, just wondering if you, Frank, had<br>
> >>> allready tried something similar?<br>
> >>> Greetings,<br>
> >>> liwenna<br>
> >>> On Mar 16, 9:00 pm, David McFarlane <<a href="mailto:mcfar...@msu.edu">mcfar...@msu.edu</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mcfar...@msu.edu">mcfar...@msu.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
> >>>> Frank,<br>
> >>>> Wow, this looks really cool, thanks very much for taking on the<br>
> >>>> assignment and writing back. Looks like it will be worth my<br>
> time to<br>
> >>>> look into AutoIt further, and continue recommending it to others.<br>
> >>>> Thanks,<br>
> >>>> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder<br>
> >>>> At 3/14/2009 02:21 AM Saturday, you wrote:<br>
> >>>>> David,<br>
> >>>>> Thanks very much for your suggestion! I've created a script<br>
> for this<br>
> >>>>> purpose in Autoit (it works very well). I don't know how to<br>
> attach a<br>
> >>>>> file in this window, so please feel free to download it from my<br>
> >>>>> personal website (see link below), and share. In the .zip<br>
> file, I<br>
> >>>>> have included the Autoit script file, a compiled version, and a<br>
> >>>>> basic .txt instruction file.<br>
> >>>>> <a href="http://www.frankbosco.com/call_ebs.zip" target="_blank">http://www.frankbosco.com/call_ebs.zip</a><br>
> >>>>> All the best,<br>
> >>>>> Frank<br>
> >>>>> On Mar 13, 10:47 am, David McFarlane <<a href="mailto:mcfar...@msu.edu">mcfar...@msu.edu</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mcfar...@msu.edu">mcfar...@msu.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
> >>>>>> Frank,<br>
> >>>>>> This question has come up before (e.g.,<br>
> >>>>> seehttp://<a href="http://www.pstnet.com/forum/Topic2485-12-1.aspx" target="_blank">www.pstnet.com/forum/Topic2485-12-1.aspx</a><br>
> <<a href="http://www.pstnet.com/forum/Topic2485-12-1.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.pstnet.com/forum/Topic2485-12-1.aspx</a>>), and I keep<br>
> >>>>>> suggesting AutoIt<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> (<<a href="http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3" target="_blank">http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3</a>><a href="http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3" target="_blank">http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3</a><br>
> >>>>>> ). So far no one has reported back on this, and I never<br>
> have time to<br>
> >>>>>> try it myself. Perhaps you could give that a try and let us<br>
> all know<br>
> >>>>>> how it works.<br>
> >>>>>> Other than that, you might try a good old DOS-style batch<br>
> >>>>>> file. Also, someone once suggested (sorry, I do not have<br>
> the link)<br>
> >>>>>> using links in a .pdf to guide the course of a battery of<br>
> >>>>>> tests. That would still require some manual interaction,<br>
> but might<br>
> >>>>>> help a little.<br>
> >>>>>> Please let us know what you find.<br>
> >>>>>> -- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder<br>
> >>>>>>> Dear E-Prime group,<br>
> >>>>>>> I am searching for a (presumably) simple external<br>
> application (e.g., a<br>
> >>>>>>> small VB-based program) to call several EBS2 files to run<br>
> in a desired<br>
> >>>>>>> order (preferably random order). I would like to<br>
> administer a battery<br>
> >>>>>>> ofexperimentsin a group setting, and am having a great deal of<br>
> >>>>>>> trouble integrating the procedures from each separate .ES2<br>
> file into<br>
> >>>>>>> one "main" .ES2 file with blocklists (E-Prime support<br>
> suggested that<br>
> >>>>>>> my individual procedures exceed E-Prime's<br>
> copy/pastecapacity, and E-<br>
> >>>>>>> Prime's automatic renaming of duplicate objects is making<br>
> the task<br>
> >>>>>>> even more difficult).<br>
> >>>>>>> Would anyone be willing to share something along these<br>
> lines? Any<br>
> >>>>>>> help would be greatly appreciated. I am not very familiar with<br>
> >>>>>>> programming languages.<br>
> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance!<br>
> >>>>>>> Frank<br>
> >>>>>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-<br>
> >>>>>>> Frank A. Bosco<br>
> >>>>>>> Doctoral Student<br>
> >>>>>>> Dept. of Management (OB/HR)<br>
> >>>>>>> Fogelman College of Business & Economics<br>
> >>>>>>> The University of Memphis<br>
> >>>>>>> <a href="mailto:fbo...@memphis.edu">fbo...@memphis.edu</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:fbo...@memphis.edu">fbo...@memphis.edu</a>><br>
> >>>>>>> Office: (901) 678-4531<br>
> >>>>>>> Cell: (901) 387-7864<br>
> >>>>>>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Rick O'Gorman, PhD<br>
> Psychology, Faculty of Development and Society<br>
> Collegiate Crescent Campus,<br>
> Sheffield Hallam University,<br>
> Sheffield<br>
> S10 2BP<br>
><br>
> Phone: 0114 225 5788 Fax: 0114 225 2430<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.shu.ac.uk/psychology/staff/OGorman.html" target="_blank">http://www.shu.ac.uk/psychology/staff/OGorman.html</a><br>
><br>
> No passion can survive a woman's seeing her lover hold<br>
> his fork in the wrong way.<br>
> ~Edith Wharton<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ><br>
<br>
--<br>
Rick O'Gorman, PhD<br>
Psychology, Faculty of Development and Society<br>
Collegiate Crescent Campus,<br>
Sheffield Hallam University,<br>
Sheffield<br>
S10 2BP<br>
<br>
Phone: 0114 225 5788 Fax: 0114 225 2430<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.shu.ac.uk/psychology/staff/OGorman.html" target="_blank">http://www.shu.ac.uk/psychology/staff/OGorman.html</a><br>
<br>
No passion can survive a woman's seeing her lover hold<br>
his fork in the wrong way.<br>
~Edith Wharton<br>
<br>
<br>
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