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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Scientists,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Well, there we go. Here's the very ultimate in timing: 100 ms 16bit/stereo (which is useless)/44.1Khz wave-form with envelope of 10 ms stochastic fade in/fade out (to avoid clicks). Please use this if you want a real beep or want some sound to demarcate an event or something. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hope it'll be actually attached after i send it to g-groups.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Michiel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> e-prime@googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime@googlegroups.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michiel Sovijarvi-Spape<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 April 2012 16:09<br><b>To:</b> e-prime@googlegroups.com<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: the time of the 'beep' function<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>No. In fact, it will say explicitly in your e-basic help file that the Beep function *<b>should never be used</b>* for stimulus presentation. This is because E-Prime cannot guarantee the onset time of the beep - the only thing your function below does is measuring when E-Prime starts to send the call to beep to Windows (if I'm not mistaken). It will then take X ms until your internal speaker starts beeping. For that matter, what beep is it? How long in ms? Is there a fade in or does it start at full amplitude? What frequency? dB? If you can't know this (and you'd have to measure it with a microphone), it is exactly the same as saying "Somewhere <u>around the 3rd second</u>, maybe, a picture of <u>unknown quality, size and colour</u> was shown to the subjects <u>for a bit</u>", literally. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Anyway, so you might find out, with an electronic ear and such, but you could take the easy path and just record a precise tone using something like cooledit. PST can, given conditions, guarantee ('ish) accurate timing for sound-files, just not for beeps (correct me if I'm wrong).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>To be fair, I don't know why they don't just provide an inbuilt function to play a 1s 1000 Hz sine wave tone and name the sub to play("MichsCoolTone.wav") beep. I think people can spare the few bytes of memory involved in keeping that permanently in memory.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Michiel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:e-prime@googlegroups.com">e-prime@googlegroups.com</a> [<a href="mailto:e-prime@googlegroups.com">mailto:e-prime@googlegroups.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>hangue jo<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 April 2012 11:43<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:e-prime@googlegroups.com">e-prime@googlegroups.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> the time of the 'beep' function<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi there,<br><br>Is there anybody figure out how to measure the onset time of the beep?<br>Is this code below report the exact onset time of beep in milisecond unit (with trigger signal to sync to the recording computer)?<br><br>Beep<br><span class=red>WritePort &H378, 1</span><br><span class=red>BeepTime = Clock.Read</span><br><br>I can't use Slide object because of my whole stimuli was conducted in InLine (made an animation using Canvas).<br>Thank you.<br><br>Best,<br>HanGue Jo.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group.<br>To view this discussion on the web visit <a href="https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/OXzsxaF3bjoJ">https://groups.google.com/d/msg/e-prime/-/OXzsxaF3bjoJ</a>.<br>To post to this group, send email to <a href="mailto:e-prime@googlegroups.com">e-prime@googlegroups.com</a>.<br>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to <a href="mailto:e-prime+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com">e-prime+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com</a>.<br>For more options, visit this group at <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en">http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en</a>.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group.<br>To post to this group, send email to <a href="mailto:e-prime@googlegroups.com">e-prime@googlegroups.com</a>.<br>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to <a href="mailto:e-prime+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com">e-prime+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com</a>.<br>For more options, visit this group at <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en">http://groups.google.com/group/e-prime?hl=en</a>.<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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