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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>My 2p: PsychoPy is extremely popular around Nottingham, but then again, the main developer of the software, Jonathan Peirce, does work there (at Nottingham Uni, School of Psychology, where I did a postdoc, not Trent, but I suppose the influence spreads). He is quite approachable, so if you want to check it out, David, I think you’d best either ask him (or the community) or install the software yourself, because I can only give you my few impressions:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>* It is pretty good, and they are making the visual drag-and-drop interface better. The coder is aware of E-Prime and how difficult students can find it, and has made sure that a lot of it is quite intuitive: loops (re-running the same trial procedure), for example, are displayed as loops (if I remember correctly). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>* Somebody mentioned python and paradigm: psychopy is built on top of psychopy and the UI just generates python code. So yes, you can do “scripting” (urgh), in python. Personally I really dislike Python and felt this was the most annoying problem of PsychoPy. I am quite certain this is just me being lazy: I’d sooner learn more C, C++, C#, basic, java, etc, than learn yet another language… Finnish is difficult enough for now.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>* PsychoPy has really cool stimulus features that are both part of Python (better drawing classes than ebasic) and possibly because of Jonathan’s interests in psychophysics. Want to display a gabor stimulus in a fine lines of code? You can! Want to make it rotate? Right-on! …okay, I admit I seldom want to do that sort of thing, but I’ve come to appreciate that some people like it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>* I think E-Prime really shines in doing RT experiments, priming experiments with fantastically accurate timing. PST seems also really fond of that sort of thing, so I’m suspecting PsychoPy isn’t as well-tested. You can and should test that, though </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hope that helps!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Michiel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> e-prime@googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime@googlegroups.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joyce Humphries<br><b>Sent:</b> 09 October 2012 12:09<br><b>To:</b> e-prime@googlegroups.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: PscyhoPy as alternative to E-Prime?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I went to an introductory course for this at Nottingham Trent a while ago. It is quite similar to E-prime in a lot of ways, but appears to be much easier to use; simply take a while for you to find your way around. I have only used it for very basic experiments, but from the training session it is very user friendly, with the bonus of being free.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Not sure if this has helped any.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>J<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:04 PM, David McFarlane <<a href="mailto:mcfarla9@msu.edu" target="_blank">mcfarla9@msu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Does anybody have any experience with PsychoPy (<a href="http://psychopy.org/" target="_blank">http://psychopy.org/</a> ) as an alternative to E-Prime, or just have any thoughts on this?<br><br>Thanks,<br>-- David McFarlane<span style='color:#888888'><br><br><span class=hoenzb>-- </span><br><span class=hoenzb>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group.</span><br><span class=hoenzb>To post to this group, send email to <a href="mailto:e-prime@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">e-prime@googlegroups.com</a>.</span><br><span class=hoenzb>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to <a href="mailto:e-prime%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">e-prime+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com</a>.</span><br><span class=hoenzb>For more options, visit <a href="https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out" target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out</a>.</span><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "E-Prime" group.<br>To post to this group, send email to <a href="mailto:e-prime@googlegroups.com">e-prime@googlegroups.com</a>.<br>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to <a href="mailto:e-prime+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com">e-prime+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com</a>.<br>For more options, visit <a href="https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out">https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out</a>.<br> <br> <o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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