I will definitely look at those resources.<br><br>On Friday, February 15, 2013 10:58:27 AM UTC-5, McFarlane, David wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">I too will beat the drum for E-Merge &
<br>E-DataAid. For some years now I have said that
<br>it is almost worth getting E-Prime for its superb
<br>data handling facilities alone! No other
<br>psychology programming platform compares in this
<br>regard, no matter what other shortcomings E-Prime may have.
<br>
<br>Sadly, it took me many years to discover this --
<br>like many, I too initially treated E-DataAid as
<br>nothing more than a tool to export data to Excel
<br>or SPSS. I did not realize the full value myself
<br>until a lab asked me to give them a tutorial on
<br>E-Merge & E-DataAid, and when I finally went
<br>through the manuals I was surprised!
<br>
<br>So work through *all* of the E-Merge and
<br>E-DataAid tutorials in the User's Guide and
<br>Reference Guide that come with E-Prime, you will
<br>find it *well* worth your trouble. You might
<br>also look through Michiel et al.'s "The
<br>E-Primer". Finally (shameless self-promotion
<br>here), I devote an entire lesson of my online
<br>video course to just this topic, with a guided
<br>exercise to show much of what Michiel described.
<br>
<br>-----
<br>David McFarlane
<br>E-Prime training
<br>online: <a href="http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx" target="_blank">http://psychology.msu.edu/<wbr>Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx</a>
<br>Twitter: @EPrimeMaster (<a href="https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/<wbr>EPrimeMaster</a>)
<br>
<br>
<br>At 2/15/2013 10:03 AM Friday, Paul Groot wrote:
<br>>You're right. E-DataAid features are often overlooked.
<br>>
<br>>Perhaps I was not clear about Excel: I meant
<br>>that Excel has serious problems with many rows
<br>>or columns. Although I think newer versions of
<br>>Excel do a much better job now, so this might not be a problem for many users.
<br>>
<br>>paul
<br>>
<br>>On 13 February 2013 14:27, Cognitology
<br>><<mailto:<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="dXQG5y75498J">msp...@cognitology.<wbr>eu</a>><a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="dXQG5y75498J">msp...@cognitology.eu</a>> wrote:
<br>>
<br>>Hi,
<br>>
<br>>If you’re not YET doing it, I urge you to have
<br>>another look at what is possible with e-DataAid.
<br>>The reason is that I know many students 1) know
<br>>SPSS fairly well, and a bit of Excel, and try to
<br>>avoid E-***. Not saying that counts for you as
<br>>well. Indeed, this is a bit of a shot in the
<br>>dark, but with such sentences as “I have a large
<br>>number of subject edat files (500+) and I like
<br>>the column/row format that the Excel export
<br>>option that E-DataAid uses so that I can easily
<br>>convert the data into a format I like using spss
<br>>syntax”, it’s difficult to avoid guessing! You
<br>>might want to say something about what you’re
<br>>planning to do, but in its absence, let’s have
<br>>an example from my own life, and maybe it helps?
<br>>
<br>>· What I like is having a good amount of
<br>>Repeated Measures ANOVA style formatted columns,
<br>>say, RTs of 2x4 conditions, one row per subject.
<br>>For SPSS. What I have is 500 .edats. Arggh, right?
<br>>
<br>>1. We merge all files to one big .emrg, which we then open in .edat
<br>>
<br>>2. We filter out those RTs we are not
<br>>interested in, say, the ones in which an error
<br>>occurs. Also, I don’t like trials 1:20.
<br>>
<br>>3. Now, we go to analyze, drag Subject to
<br>>the Row, and any type of between-subject variable (sex, age, etc).
<br>>
<br>>4. Then drag ConditionP1vs2 to columns,
<br>>drag ConditionQ1vs2vs3vs4 to columns. Drag the
<br>>critical RT thing to the Data bit. Press Run.
<br>>
<br>>5. So, we should see a nice table of at
<br>>least 500x8. Oops, it’s got two decimals.. why?
<br>>Make that 4. Select all of it, copy the bunch to excel.
<br>>
<br>>6. Inside excel, underneath the two rows
<br>>with variables (rows A and B), insert a new row
<br>>(say C). Enter the wonderful formula =A&”_”&B and drag it all across row C.
<br>>
<br>>7. Select row C, copy, go stand in an
<br>>empty bit, paste special: values only, and
<br>>transpose. Copy that, go to SPSS, paste in
<br>>variables: now, that’s descriptive indeed.
<br>>
<br>>8. Copy all the values over to SPSS (but
<br>>you’ll have to reassign string values from numeric for some columns).
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>These 8 steps, lengthy as they may seem, take me
<br>>about 2 minutes, and I think it’s a great workflow.
<br>>
<br>>TLDR? Try E-DataAid, it’s ridiculously simple,
<br>>really rocks, and SPSS is best avoided as they
<br>>make it slower and buggier with every next release.
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>PS: Paul, I find Excel not at all slow with
<br>>large data-files? Much faster than SPSS, at
<br>>least, or at least it has been between excel
<br>>2007 and 2010 (2013 beta was running very slow
<br>>here); it does not cope very well with large and
<br>>lengthy formulas that need repeated
<br>>recalculation and take up more than hundreds of MBs, though.
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>Best,
<br>>
<br>>Michiel
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>From:
<br>><mailto:<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="dXQG5y75498J">e-p...@googlegroups.<wbr>com</a>><a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="dXQG5y75498J">e-p...@googlegroups.com</a>
<br>>[mailto:<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="dXQG5y75498J">e-p...@googlegroups.<wbr>com</a>] On Behalf Of Daniel
<br>>Sent: 11. February 2013 23:02
<br>>To: <mailto:<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="dXQG5y75498J">e-p...@googlegroups.<wbr>com</a>><a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="dXQG5y75498J">e-p...@googlegroups.com</a>
<br>>Subject: Re: Converting an Edat file into either a .xls or .txt file
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>Yeah, I will probably just end up splitting it
<br>>using a SPSS syntax script (I am not very
<br>>familiar with Matlab yet), it will be a little
<br>>bit tedious but faster than doing it manually.
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>Thanks for the input.
<br>>
<br>>On Friday, February 8, 2013 6:49:09 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote:
<br>>
<br>>I have a large number of subject edat files
<br>>(500+) and I like the column/row format that the
<br>>Excel export option that E-DataAid uses so that
<br>>I can easily convert the data into a format I
<br>>like using spss syntax. Is there a faster way to
<br>>convert all of these subject files into the
<br>>excel format, some sort of way to iterate over
<br>>all files in a folder, instead of having to open
<br>>each one and export them separately?
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>Thanks.
<br>
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