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<p>Excelentes estes exemplos, Marcelo. O que me deixou curioso: construções semelhantes poderiam ser usadas também com nomes não deverbais?<br>
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Isto tem a ver com um outro interesse meu, relacionado intrinsecamente à questão da origem da ergatividade a partir de construções nominalizadas: a intersecção entre mecanismos de mudança de valência em nomes (o que eu chamo de "aplicativos nominais", por exemplo) e verbos.<br>
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Então, de volta ao Kaingáng, gostaria de saber se esta mesma posposição que marca o argumento ergativo nestas construções serviria para introduzir um argumento nominal a mais em construções puramente nominais. Por exemplo:<br>
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o livro de português do menino<br>
a canoa de madeira do Zé<br>
etc.<br>
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--- Em <a href="mailto:etnolinguistica%40yahoogrupos.com.br">etnolinguistica@<wbr>yahoogrupos.<wbr>com.br</a>, Marcelo Jolkesky <marjolkesky@<wbr>...> escreveu<br>
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