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<p>Olá, Emerson,<br>
<br>
você pode encontrar alguns dados em anexo. A situacao é um pouco difícil já<br>
que se trata de conceitos nao nascidos nas sociedades tupi-guarani, mas de<br>
adaptacoes a conceitos introduzidos pelos europeus.<br>
Espero que os dados - bastante uniformes na maioria das línguas - sejam úteis<br>
apesar de estas reservas.<br>
<br>
Um abrac,o,<br>
<br>
Wolf<br>
<br>
Ensjo schrieb am 2010-03-15:<br>
> Olá, amigos.<br>
<br>
> Tenho curiosidade a respeito de termos usados para esses conceitos<br>
> nas línguas tupi-guarani:<br>
<br>
> 1. "COMPRAR"<br>
<br>
> Encontrei no TUPINAMBÁ termos cunhados a partir de "(T)EPY" 'troco',<br>
> 'resgate', como "MO-EPY" 'munir de troco' (KAMAIURÁ: "MEPY" [Lucy<br>
> Seki]) e "(S)EPY-ME'ENG" 'dar o troco de'. (Embora esses termos me<br>
> pareçam mais apropriados para o sentido de "PAGAR".)<br>
<br>
> O KAYABI [Rose Dobson] usa "MUT" (=tupinambá "MO-UR" 'fazer vir').<br>
<br>
> Outros termos não consegui decifrar:<br>
<br>
> Na LÍNGUA GERAL AMAZÔNICA de 1771 encontrei um termo "PIRIPAN" ou<br>
> "PIRIPUAN"<br>
> [<a href="http://web.bg.uc.pt/Bibliotecadigital/Obras/POC/UCBG-Ms-81/UCBG-Ms-81_item1/P105.html">http://web.bg.<wbr>uc.pt/Biblioteca<wbr>digital/Obras/<wbr>POC/UCBG-<wbr>Ms-81/UCBG-<wbr>Ms-81_item1/<wbr>P105.html</a><br>
> ], e um termo semelhante "PIRUPAM" em um texto TEMBÉ de 1929<br>
> [<a href="http://biblio.etnolinguistica.org/rice_kyle_1929_a_vida">http://biblio.<wbr>etnolinguistica.<wbr>org/rice_<wbr>kyle_1929_<wbr>a_vida</a> ].<br>
<br>
> O mesmo texto aparece no vocabulário do TUPI AUSTRAL (língua geral<br>
> paulista?) [von Martius], na forma "PERIPAN"<br>
> [<a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=vhQXAAAAYAAJ&printsec=titlepage#v=onepage&q=&f=false">http://books.<wbr>google.com/<wbr>books?id=<wbr>vhQXAAAAYAAJ&<wbr>printsec=<wbr>titlepage#<wbr>v=onepage&<wbr>q=&f=false</a><br>
> ].<br>
<br>
> No tupi austral também encontramos um termo "YOGUÁ" compartilhado<br>
> pelo GUARANI PARAGUAIO: "JOGUA" [Wolf Lustig] e GUARANI MBYÁ:<br>
> "(JO)GUA" [Robert Dooley].<br>
<br>
> Alguma ideia sobre a origem desses termos?<br>
<br>
> 2. "VENDER"<br>
<br>
> Na LINGUA GERAL AMAZÔNICA<br>
> [<a href="http://web.bg.uc.pt/Bibliotecadigital/Obras/POC/UCBG-Ms-81/UCBG-Ms-81_item1/P351.html">http://web.bg.<wbr>uc.pt/Biblioteca<wbr>digital/Obras/<wbr>POC/UCBG-<wbr>Ms-81/UCBG-<wbr>Ms-81_item1/<wbr>P351.html</a><br>
> ] e no KAYABI [Rose Dobson] temos "ME'ENG" 'dar'.<br>
<br>
> No GUARANI PARAGUAIO [Wolf Lustig] e no GUARANI MBYÁ [Robert Dooley]<br>
> temos "VENDE", empréstimo do espanhol "vender".<br>
<br>
> No GUARANI PARAGUAIO [Wolf Lustig] encontramos também "ÑEMU", cuja<br>
> origem não percebo.<br>
<br>
> Gostaria também de conhecer soluções criadas por outras línguas da<br>
> família. Obrigado.<br>
<br>
> Emerson José Silveira da Costa<br>
> <a href="http://tupi.wikispaces.com">http://tupi.<wbr>wikispaces.<wbr>com</a><br>
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border: 1px solid #666666;
height: 62px;
overflow: hidden;
width: 62px;
}
#photos div label {
color: #666666;
font-size: 10px;
overflow: hidden;
text-align: center;
white-space: nowrap;
width: 64px;
}
#reco-category {
font-size: 77%;
}
#reco-desc {
font-size: 77%;
}
.replbq {
margin: 4px;
}
#ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {
/* border-right: 0px solid #000;*/
margin-right: 2px;
padding-right: 5px;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg {
font-size: 13px;
font-family: Arial, helvetica,clean, sans-serif;
*font-size: small;
*font: x-small;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg table {
font-size: inherit;
font: 100%;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {
font: 99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {
font:115% monospace;
*font-size:100%;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg * {
line-height: 1.22em;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg #logo {
padding-bottom: 10px;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg a {
color: #1E66AE;
}
#ygrp-msg p a {
font-family: Verdana;
}
#ygrp-msg p#attach-count span {
color: #1E66AE;
font-weight: 700;
}
#ygrp-reco #reco-head {
color: #ff7900;
font-weight: 700;
}
#ygrp-reco {
margin-bottom: 20px;
padding: 0px;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov li a {
font-size: 130%;
text-decoration: none;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov li {
font-size: 77%;
list-style-type: square;
padding: 6px 0;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov ul {
margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 0 8px;
}
#ygrp-text {
font-family: Georgia;
}
#ygrp-text p {
margin: 0 0 1em 0;
}
#ygrp-text tt {
font-size: 120%;
}
#ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {
border-right: none !important;
}
-->
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