Associative plurals

[Özgün KOSANER]

Turkish has this phenomenon too. Turkish plural -lAr can be used as an
associative plural. For instance,

amca-m-lar
uncle-POSSESIVE-PL.
my uncles (my uncle and his family/friends)

This suffix with this function can be added to proper nouns as weel as
common nouns as in

kedi-ler
cat-PL
cats (falidae family of animals)

There is also another suffix, albeit not used widely now, in Turkish -gil.
It's mostly used in species names such as feline, canine, etc. This suffix
again is added to proper names and common names, but used especially with
kinship terms.

teyze-m-gil-(ler)
aunt-POSS-ASSOC.PL.
my aunts (my aunt and her family)

Ahmet-gil-ler
Ahmet-ASSOC.PL-PL
Ahmets (Not several Ahmets, but Ahmet and friends)

bakla-gil
horsebean-ASSOC.PL
pulse (horsebean and it kind)

I do not remeber any studies on this function of plural suffix and the -gil
suffix in Turkish though.

Best Regards,

Özgün Kosaner
Ozgun Kosaner

Department of Linguistics
Dokuz Eylul University
Izmir/Turkey




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jess tauber" <phonosemantics at earthlink.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [FUNKNET] Associative plurals


> Well, Yahgan has an even higher animacy dual -a:pai. In pn's only found
> with 1st and 2nd person. I'm starting to think there are three underlying
> bases here that evolved from the three numeral terms for 1,2,3. Three in
> Yahgan is mvtan (v schwa), so -(n)de(i) from that. Two is kvmbai
> (alternate forms kvmbaibi, kvmbaibai), which would yield -a:pai. There is
> also a form hvnggvmbai which acts as a reciprocal. u:koali is one, and the
> definite article -a:ki (which also has an alternate in -a), also used
> independently to mean 'someone', may have evolved from it. There is a
> suffix -(n)chi, perhaps further evolved, on nouns which seems to relate to
> superindividuality (as when one has subordinates), so maybe this too is an
> associative use? It can be used alone (as when one appeals to the king),
> or also on possessors in constructions of X-nchi Y-n (Y of X).
>
> Still a bit fuzzy here, haven't thought in these terms before.
>
> Jess Tauber
> phonosemantics at earthlink.net
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tahir Wood" <twood at uwc.ac.za>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:57 AM
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>>> <john at research.haifa.ac.il> 4/5/2011 7:33 am >>>
I've heard Black Americans use a reduced form of 'and them' (pronounced
schwa-n-schwa-m) suffixed to names with an associative-type meaning
(Jackie-en-em='Jackie and the people with her'). I don't know how common 
this
is.


This is very common in colloquial South African English, although perhaps 
not as contracted as is described above.
Tahir




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