From john at research.haifa.ac.il  Mon Sep  3 11:06:07 2012
From: john at research.haifa.ac.il (john)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 14:06:07 +0300
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.140607.0300.JOHN@RESEARCH.HAIFA.AC.IL>

 

Dear Funknetters, 

On my recent trip to South Sudan, I managed to
convinced a group of Dinka language specialists that it would be a good
idea to mark tone in a limited number of contexts (specifically high
tone in specific grammatical contexts which are always associated in
high tone in all forms and all dialects). This would be pretty rare,
occurring on maybe 1 or 2 percent of the vowels. The problem is that
they already mark voice quality with diaresis (aka umlauts, two dots
over the vowel), and this occurs on about a third of the vowels. The
most common way to mark tone in African languages is with an acute
accent, but this would create a complication in that some vowels would
need to be marked for both voice quality AND tone. This would be a bit
of a mess, aside from which I don't know of any fonts which have such a
symbol. I thought of using the Hungarian long umlaut (basically two
parallel acute accents) to mark both diaresis and acute accent
simultaneously (this is the diacritic function it has in Hungarian,
although both of the linguistic functions are completely different).
This was not a great hit with the Dinkas, I guess because they'd never
seen it before, but I suppose they might accept it if they were given
some kind of keyboard demonstration showing that it really isn't so
complicated. Another difficulty is that in Hungarian at least this
symbol is only used over <u> and <o>, but in Dinka it would have to be
used over all 7 vowels (the five basic ones and also ɔ and ɛ, which are
part of the regular orthography). Do any of you have any ideas of how to
deal with this problem of marking diaresis and tone (it can be something
other than acute accent, I don't really care) simultaneously and/or the
associated problem of how to write it on a computer keyboard? 

Thanks,


John 
 


From munro at ucla.edu  Mon Sep  3 13:35:31 2012
From: munro at ucla.edu (Pamela Munro)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 15:35:31 +0200
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <1773f59bdc99e880c3d33848d12667b6@research.haifa.ac.il>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.153531.0200.MUNRO@UCLA.EDU>

I have used a circumflex to mark stressed (normally shown with acute ´) on vowels that have a diaresis to show quality -- thus (if these transmit) in Garifuna the sixth vowel (high back unrounded) is written ü (u umlaut) and I write a stressed one as û (u circumflex). This is pretty iconic.

Pam

Sent from my iPad

Pamela Munro
Professor, Department of Linguistics
UCLA Box 951543
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1543


On Sep 3, 2012, at 1:06 PM, john <john at research.haifa.ac.il> wrote:

> 
> 
> Dear Funknetters, 
> 
> On my recent trip to South Sudan, I managed to
> convinced a group of Dinka language specialists that it would be a good
> idea to mark tone in a limited number of contexts (specifically high
> tone in specific grammatical contexts which are always associated in
> high tone in all forms and all dialects). This would be pretty rare,
> occurring on maybe 1 or 2 percent of the vowels. The problem is that
> they already mark voice quality with diaresis (aka umlauts, two dots
> over the vowel), and this occurs on about a third of the vowels. The
> most common way to mark tone in African languages is with an acute
> accent, but this would create a complication in that some vowels would
> need to be marked for both voice quality AND tone. This would be a bit
> of a mess, aside from which I don't know of any fonts which have such a
> symbol. I thought of using the Hungarian long umlaut (basically two
> parallel acute accents) to mark both diaresis and acute accent
> simultaneously (this is the diacritic function it has in Hungarian,
> although both of the linguistic functions are completely different).
> This was not a great hit with the Dinkas, I guess because they'd never
> seen it before, but I suppose they might accept it if they were given
> some kind of keyboard demonstration showing that it really isn't so
> complicated. Another difficulty is that in Hungarian at least this
> symbol is only used over <u> and <o>, but in Dinka it would have to be
> used over all 7 vowels (the five basic ones and also ɔ and ɛ, which are
> part of the regular orthography). Do any of you have any ideas of how to
> deal with this problem of marking diaresis and tone (it can be something
> other than acute accent, I don't really care) simultaneously and/or the
> associated problem of how to write it on a computer keyboard? 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> John 
> 


From john at research.haifa.ac.il  Mon Sep  3 13:52:28 2012
From: john at research.haifa.ac.il (john)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 16:52:28 +0300
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <ABB58284-5071-485E-BB77-7D8DE1DBAB41@ucla.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.165228.0300.JOHN@RESEARCH.HAIFA.AC.IL>

 

Hi Pam, 

I briefly suggested this to them last week (among other
suggestions). The objection raised was that the circumflex has been
traditionally used by linguists working on Dinka (and I think Nilotic
languages in general) to mark falling tone. This has never been used in
the orthography but unfortunately the Dinkas who would be deciding
whether to accept this have I think gotten used to this notation. It's
especially unfortunate because they have considerable difficulty even
perceiving falling tone, and the situations in which it's used differ
radically from dialect to dialect (unlike the cases in which I've
convinced them to use high tone marking, which are the same in all
dialects), so the category of falling tone is for practical purposes
orthographically useless. I agree that it's a pretty iconic way to
combine umlaut and acute accent, and it's more familiar to them that the
Hungarian long umlaut. I am going to try to suggest it again. Maybe if I
can get all of the foreign linguists working on Dinka (like 5 of us) to
suggest this notation they'll accept it. 

Thanks and best wishes,


John 

On 03.09.2012 16:35, Pamela Munro wrote: 

> I have used a
circumflex to mark stressed (normally shown with acute ´) on vowels that
have a diaresis to show quality -- thus (if these transmit) in Garifuna
the sixth vowel (high back unrounded) is written ü (u umlaut) and I
write a stressed one as û (u circumflex). This is pretty iconic.
> 
>
Pam
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Pamela Munro
> Professor, Department of
Linguistics
> UCLA Box 951543
> Los Angeles, CA 90095-1543
> 
> On Sep
3, 2012, at 1:06 PM, john <john at research.haifa.ac.il> wrote:
> 
>> Dear
Funknetters, On my recent trip to South Sudan, I managed to convinced a
group of Dinka language specialists that it would be a good idea to mark
tone in a limited number of contexts (specifically high tone in specific
grammatical contexts which are always associated in high tone in all
forms and all dialects). This would be pretty rare, occurring on maybe 1
or 2 percent of the vowels. The problem is that they already mark voice
quality with diaresis (aka umlauts, two dots over the vowel), and this
occurs on about a third of the vowels. The most common way to mark tone
in African languages is with an acute accent, but this would create a
complication in that some vowels would need to be marked for both voice
quality AND tone. This would be a bit of a mess, aside from which I
don't know of any fonts which have such a symbol. I thought of using the
Hungarian long umlaut (basically two parallel acute accents) to mark
both diaresis and acute accent simultaneously (this is the diacritic
function it has in Hungarian, although both of the linguistic functions
are completely different). This was not a great hit with the Dinkas, I
guess because they'd never seen it before, but I suppose they might
accept it if they were given some kind of keyboard demonstration showing
that it really isn't so complicated. Another difficulty is that in
Hungarian at least this symbol is only used over and , but in Dinka it
would have to be used over all 7 vowels (the five basic ones and also ɔ
and ɛ, which are part of the regular orthography). Do any of you have
any ideas of how to deal with this problem of marking diaresis and tone
(it can be something other than acute accent, I don't really care)
simultaneously and/or the associated problem of how to write it on a
computer keyboard? Thanks, John

 


From john at research.haifa.ac.il  Mon Sep  3 14:33:48 2012
From: john at research.haifa.ac.il (john)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 17:33:48 +0300
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <CAN6Cvhe4VE5szoUP1rWq3gdUT4y+8Rbs5qJs6e-o466oej5_dA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.173348.0300.JOHN@RESEARCH.HAIFA.AC.IL>

 

They agree that high tone should be written in certain contexts, but
when the vowel is already marked with diaeresis, there isn't any obvious
way to write it. Adding both diaeresis AND an accent mark over vowels
would get too crowded, no one wants this. 

John 

On 03.09.2012 17:08,
Claire Bowern wrote: 

> Why not just use one of the many unicode fonts
that allows combining
> diacritics? That includes Times New Roman.
>
More philosophically, there's a long tradition in orthography design
>
of outsiders mandating solutions which don't get used for reasons
>
which ultimately have little to do with orthography itself. It sounds
>
like you already have agreement on how speakers would like this to be
>
represented, so why not use that and get the technology to work for
>
you?
> Claire
> 
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:52 AM, john
<john at research.haifa.ac.il> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pam, I briefly suggested
this to them last week (among other suggestions). The objection raised
was that the circumflex has been traditionally used by linguists working
on Dinka (and I think Nilotic languages in general) to mark falling
tone. This has never been used in the orthography but unfortunately the
Dinkas who would be deciding whether to accept this have I think gotten
used to this notation. It's especially unfortunate because they have
considerable difficulty even perceiving falling tone, and the situations
in which it's used differ radically from dialect to dialect (unlike the
cases in which I've convinced them to use high tone marking, which are
the same in all dialects), so the category of falling tone is for
practical purposes orthographically useless. I agree that it's a pretty
iconic way to combine umlaut and acute accent, and it's more familiar to
them that the Hungarian long umlaut. I am going to try to suggest it
again. Maybe if I can get all of the foreign linguists working on Dinka
(like 5 of us) to suggest this notation they'll accept it. Thanks and
best wishes, John On 03.09.2012 16:35, Pamela Munro wrote: 
>> 
>>> I
have used a
>> circumflex to mark stressed (normally shown with acute ´)
on vowels that have a diaresis to show quality -- thus (if these
transmit) in Garifuna the sixth vowel (high back unrounded) is written ü
(u umlaut) and I write a stressed one as û (u circumflex). This is
pretty iconic.Pam 
>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad Pamela Munro Professor,
Department of
>> Linguistics

 


From mike_cahill at sil.org  Mon Sep  3 15:12:57 2012
From: mike_cahill at sil.org (Mike Cahill)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 10:12:57 -0500
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <819e881f7c2a9c7ca1b2d9e3417f90d0@research.haifa.ac.il>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.101257.0500.MIKECAHILL@SIL.ORG>

Yes, there's font solutions that can combine diacritics, but crucially, for any solution to be used, it must have buy-in by the actual users. It's good that the Dinka (at least some of them) see the need - that's a huge step. 

I think there may be a totally different approach possible here, since you're talking about "a limited number of contexts (specifically high tone in specific grammatical contexts which are always associated in high tone in all forms and all dialects)." So far, everyone has focused on the phonetically high tone, and how to mark it, localizing the tone mark on that particular vowel. Another possibility, since you're talking about a grammatical construction, is to mark that particular grammatical construction. Once the Dinka know that it's that construction, then they will pronounce it the way that construction is pronounced. 

Not knowing what construction you're talking about, I can't be too specific on suggestions, but one type of example that's been used is an otherwise unused letter or punctuation mark at the beginning of the sentence or word to mark a specific grammatical construction. 

This also has the advantage that in writing, they'll use that symbol (assuming it's been taught well). One problem with trying to mark a phonetic high tone in a very few contexts is that people may have trouble in writing, to decide when to mark high tone and when not to, and they'll probably end up not marking at all, not a desirable outcome.

Best to you,

Mike Cahill

-----Original Message-----
From: funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of john
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 9:34 AM
To: Claire Bowern
Cc: Pamela Munro; funknet at mailman.rice.edu
Subject: Re: [FUNKNET] marking diaresis and accent

 

They agree that high tone should be written in certain contexts, but when the vowel is already marked with diaeresis, there isn't any obvious way to write it. Adding both diaeresis AND an accent mark over vowels would get too crowded, no one wants this. 

John 

On 03.09.2012 17:08,
Claire Bowern wrote: 

> Why not just use one of the many unicode fonts
that allows combining
> diacritics? That includes Times New Roman.
>
More philosophically, there's a long tradition in orthography design
>
of outsiders mandating solutions which don't get used for reasons
>
which ultimately have little to do with orthography itself. It sounds
>
like you already have agreement on how speakers would like this to be
>
represented, so why not use that and get the technology to work for
>
you?
> Claire
> 
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:52 AM, john
<john at research.haifa.ac.il> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pam, I briefly suggested
this to them last week (among other suggestions). The objection raised was that the circumflex has been traditionally used by linguists working on Dinka (and I think Nilotic languages in general) to mark falling tone. This has never been used in the orthography but unfortunately the Dinkas who would be deciding whether to accept this have I think gotten used to this notation. It's especially unfortunate because they have considerable difficulty even perceiving falling tone, and the situations in which it's used differ radically from dialect to dialect (unlike the cases in which I've convinced them to use high tone marking, which are the same in all dialects), so the category of falling tone is for practical purposes orthographically useless. I agree that it's a pretty iconic way to combine umlaut and acute accent, and it's more familiar to them that the Hungarian long umlaut. I am going to try to suggest it again. Maybe if I can get all of the foreign linguists working on Dinka (like 5 of us) to suggest this notation they'll accept it. Thanks and best wishes, John On 03.09.2012 16:35, Pamela Munro wrote: 
>> 
>>> I
have used a
>> circumflex to mark stressed (normally shown with acute ´)
on vowels that have a diaresis to show quality -- thus (if these
transmit) in Garifuna the sixth vowel (high back unrounded) is written ü (u umlaut) and I write a stressed one as û (u circumflex). This is pretty iconic.Pam 
>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad Pamela Munro Professor,
Department of
>> Linguistics

 


From john at research.haifa.ac.il  Mon Sep  3 16:23:30 2012
From: john at research.haifa.ac.il (john)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:23:30 +0300
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <787bc8e16634e94aa644f639f6d7c13a@sil.org>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.192330.0300.JOHN@RESEARCH.HAIFA.AC.IL>

 

Believe me, I've tried this idea. This was in fact my initial idea
and I only gave it up because I was unable to convince the Dinkas to do
this. The specific contexts are: 

(1) 2nd person subject past and
future auxiliary verbs (to distinguish from 1st person subject forms).


(2) 2nd person subject inflections on the verbs (to distinguish them
from passives) 

(3) The distal demonstrative (as opposed to the
proximal demonstrative), and 

(4) The 'Non-Topical Subject'
construction, in which OVS rather than SVO order is used (this is
distinct from the passive, where there is either no agent or the agent
is preceded by a preposition). 

They have a much easier time
conceptualizing marking tone in these contexts rather than marking the
contexts themselves. They regard marking the contexts as somehow
unnatural. 

Best wishes, 

John 

On 03.09.2012 18:12, Mike Cahill
wrote: 

> Yes, there's font solutions that can combine diacritics, but
crucially, for any solution to be used, it must have buy-in by the
actual users. It's good that the Dinka (at least some of them) see the
need - that's a huge step. 
> 
> I think there may be a totally
different approach possible here, since you're talking about "a limited
number of contexts (specifically high tone in specific grammatical
contexts which are always associated in high tone in all forms and all
dialects)." So far, everyone has focused on the phonetically high tone,
and how to mark it, localizing the tone mark on that particular vowel.
Another possibility, since you're talking about a grammatical
construction, is to mark that particular grammatical construction. Once
the Dinka know that it's that construction, then they will pronounce it
the way that construction is pronounced. 
> 
> Not knowing what
construction you're talking about, I can't be too specific on
suggestions, but one type of example that's been used is an otherwise
unused letter or punctuation mark at the beginning of the sentence or
word to mark a specific grammatical construction. 
> 
> This also has
the advantage that in writing, they'll use that symbol (assuming it's
been taught well). One problem with trying to mark a phonetic high tone
in a very few contexts is that people may have trouble in writing, to
decide when to mark high tone and when not to, and they'll probably end
up not marking at all, not a desirable outcome.
> 
> Best to you,
> 
>
Mike Cahill
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu
[mailto:funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of john
> Sent:
Monday, September 03, 2012 9:34 AM
> To: Claire Bowern
> Cc: Pamela
Munro; funknet at mailman.rice.eduSubject: Re: [FUNKNET] marking diaresis
and accent
> 
> They agree that high tone should be written in certain
contexts, but when the vowel is already marked with diaeresis, there
isn't any obvious way to write it. Adding both diaeresis AND an accent
mark over vowels would get too crowded, no one wants this. 
> 
> John 
>

> On 03.09.2012 17:08,
> Claire Bowern wrote:
> 
>> Why not just use
one of the many unicode fonts
> 
> that allows combining
> 
>>
diacritics? That includes Times New Roman.
> 
> More philosophically,
there's a long tradition in orthography designof outsiders mandating
solutions which don't get used for reasonswhich ultimately have little
to do with orthography itself. It soundslike you already have agreement
on how speakers would like this to berepresented, so why not use that
and get the technology to work foryou?
> Sent from my iPad Pamela Munro
Professor, 
> 
> Department of

 


From pyoung at uoregon.edu  Mon Sep  3 16:28:46 2012
From: pyoung at uoregon.edu (Phil Young)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 09:28:46 -0700
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <1773f59bdc99e880c3d33848d12667b6@research.haifa.ac.il>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.092846.0700.PYOUNG@UOREGON.EDU>

John,

How about just reduplicating the vowel without the diaresis, e.g., <äa>.

Phil Young


From bdc3 at rice.edu  Mon Sep  3 16:35:16 2012
From: bdc3 at rice.edu (Benjamin Chauvette)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 11:35:16 -0500
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <1773f59bdc99e880c3d33848d12667b6@research.haifa.ac.il>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.113516.0500.BDC3@RICE.EDU>

Have you considered using digraphs instead of diacritics, like in Cantonese
Pinyin?

For example, it looks like the Dinka orthography already uses <h>
exclusively for consonantal digraphs, so the adopting it for tonal digraphs
wouldn't be much of a stretch. Speakers could even use apostrophes or
hyphens, if they aren't used elsewhere in the orthography.

Best,
Ben Chauvette

On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 6:06 AM, john <john at research.haifa.ac.il> wrote:

>
>
> Dear Funknetters,
>
> On my recent trip to South Sudan, I managed to
> convinced a group of Dinka language specialists that it would be a good
> idea to mark tone in a limited number of contexts (specifically high
> tone in specific grammatical contexts which are always associated in
> high tone in all forms and all dialects). This would be pretty rare,
> occurring on maybe 1 or 2 percent of the vowels. The problem is that
> they already mark voice quality with diaresis (aka umlauts, two dots
> over the vowel), and this occurs on about a third of the vowels. The
> most common way to mark tone in African languages is with an acute
> accent, but this would create a complication in that some vowels would
> need to be marked for both voice quality AND tone. This would be a bit
> of a mess, aside from which I don't know of any fonts which have such a
> symbol. I thought of using the Hungarian long umlaut (basically two
> parallel acute accents) to mark both diaresis and acute accent
> simultaneously (this is the diacritic function it has in Hungarian,
> although both of the linguistic functions are completely different).
> This was not a great hit with the Dinkas, I guess because they'd never
> seen it before, but I suppose they might accept it if they were given
> some kind of keyboard demonstration showing that it really isn't so
> complicated. Another difficulty is that in Hungarian at least this
> symbol is only used over <u> and <o>, but in Dinka it would have to be
> used over all 7 vowels (the five basic ones and also ɔ and ɛ, which are
> part of the regular orthography). Do any of you have any ideas of how to
> deal with this problem of marking diaresis and tone (it can be something
> other than acute accent, I don't really care) simultaneously and/or the
> associated problem of how to write it on a computer keyboard?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> John
>
>
>


From chafe at linguistics.ucsb.edu  Mon Sep  3 16:37:25 2012
From: chafe at linguistics.ucsb.edu (Wallace Chafe)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 09:37:25 -0700
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <ac1ea29ced9610632aa4b55fe5fa1fab@research.haifa.ac.il>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.093725.0700.CHAFE@LINGUISTICS.UCSB.EDU>

John (who?)

For whatever it's worth, Seneca is written with the umlaut for nasalized 
vowels (nostrils), and it's quite possible to add a raised accent mark 
(either acute or grave) that fits on top of the two dots. It's possible 
with Times New Roman, and probably other fonts.

Wally Chafe

--On Monday, September 03, 2012 4:52 PM +0300 john 
<john at research.haifa.ac.il> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Pam,
>
> I briefly suggested this to them last week (among other
> suggestions). The objection raised was that the circumflex has been
> traditionally used by linguists working on Dinka (and I think Nilotic
> languages in general) to mark falling tone. This has never been used in
> the orthography but unfortunately the Dinkas who would be deciding
> whether to accept this have I think gotten used to this notation. It's
> especially unfortunate because they have considerable difficulty even
> perceiving falling tone, and the situations in which it's used differ
> radically from dialect to dialect (unlike the cases in which I've
> convinced them to use high tone marking, which are the same in all
> dialects), so the category of falling tone is for practical purposes
> orthographically useless. I agree that it's a pretty iconic way to
> combine umlaut and acute accent, and it's more familiar to them that the
> Hungarian long umlaut. I am going to try to suggest it again. Maybe if I
> can get all of the foreign linguists working on Dinka (like 5 of us) to
> suggest this notation they'll accept it.
>
> Thanks and best wishes,
>
>
> John
>
> On 03.09.2012 16:35, Pamela Munro wrote:
>
>> I have used a
> circumflex to mark stressed (normally shown with acute ´) on vowels that
> have a diaresis to show quality -- thus (if these transmit) in Garifuna
> the sixth vowel (high back unrounded) is written ü (u umlaut) and I
> write a stressed one as û (u circumflex). This is pretty iconic.
>>
>>
> Pam
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> Pamela Munro
>> Professor, Department of
> Linguistics
>> UCLA Box 951543
>> Los Angeles, CA 90095-1543
>>
>> On Sep
> 3, 2012, at 1:06 PM, john <john at research.haifa.ac.il> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear
> Funknetters, On my recent trip to South Sudan, I managed to convinced a
> group of Dinka language specialists that it would be a good idea to mark
> tone in a limited number of contexts (specifically high tone in specific
> grammatical contexts which are always associated in high tone in all
> forms and all dialects). This would be pretty rare, occurring on maybe 1
> or 2 percent of the vowels. The problem is that they already mark voice
> quality with diaresis (aka umlauts, two dots over the vowel), and this
> occurs on about a third of the vowels. The most common way to mark tone
> in African languages is with an acute accent, but this would create a
> complication in that some vowels would need to be marked for both voice
> quality AND tone. This would be a bit of a mess, aside from which I
> don't know of any fonts which have such a symbol. I thought of using the
> Hungarian long umlaut (basically two parallel acute accents) to mark
> both diaresis and acute accent simultaneously (this is the diacritic
> function it has in Hungarian, although both of the linguistic functions
> are completely different). This was not a great hit with the Dinkas, I
> guess because they'd never seen it before, but I suppose they might
> accept it if they were given some kind of keyboard demonstration showing
> that it really isn't so complicated. Another difficulty is that in
> Hungarian at least this symbol is only used over and , but in Dinka it
> would have to be used over all 7 vowels (the five basic ones and also ?
> and ?, which are part of the regular orthography). Do any of you have
> any ideas of how to deal with this problem of marking diaresis and tone
> (it can be something other than acute accent, I don't really care)
> simultaneously and/or the associated problem of how to write it on a
> computer keyboard? Thanks, John
>
>


From john at research.haifa.ac.il  Mon Sep  3 16:39:06 2012
From: john at research.haifa.ac.il (john)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:39:06 +0300
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <542225027.20120903092846@uoregon.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.193906.0300.JOHN@RESEARCH.HAIFA.AC.IL>

 

They already have two lengths of vowels. Three orthographic lengths
is too much. 

John 

On 03.09.2012 19:28, Phil Young wrote: 

> John,
>

> How about just reduplicating the vowel without the diaresis, e.g.,
.
> 
> Phil Young

 


From john at research.haifa.ac.il  Mon Sep  3 16:43:00 2012
From: john at research.haifa.ac.il (john)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:43:00 +0300
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <CAE5057F00DFA5CF1704F3DD@[192.168.7.100]>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.194300.0300.JOHN@RESEARCH.HAIFA.AC.IL>

 

(myhill) 

We've suggested that. They say it looks like a mess and
I'm inclined to agree. Nuer (a neighboring closely related language)
does something like this (the grammatical functions are different, but
the orthography idea is the same) and it's really a pain to read. Also
reading researchers at my university have consistently found that double
diacritics really slows down reading. 

Best wishes, 

John 

On
03.09.2012 19:37, Wallace Chafe wrote: 

> John (who?)
> 
> For whatever
it's worth, Seneca is written with the umlaut for nasalized 
> vowels
(nostrils), and it's quite possible to add a raised accent mark 
>
(either acute or grave) that fits on top of the two dots. It's possible

> with Times New Roman, and probably other fonts.
> 
> Wally Chafe
> 
>
--On Monday, September 03, 2012 4:52 PM +0300 john 
>
<john at research.haifa.ac.il> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pam, I briefly suggested
this to them last week (among other suggestions). The objection raised
was that the circumflex has been traditionally used by linguists working
on Dinka (and I think Nilotic languages in general) to mark falling
tone. This has never been used in the orthography but unfortunately the
Dinkas who would be deciding whether to accept this have I think gotten
used to this notation. It's especially unfortunate because they have
considerable difficulty even perceiving falling tone, and the situations
in which it's used differ radically from dialect to dialect (unlike the
cases in which I've convinced them to use high tone marking, which are
the same in all dialects), so the category of falling tone is for
practical purposes orthographically useless. I agree that it's a pretty
iconic way to combine umlaut and acute accent, and it's more familiar to
them that the Hungarian long umlaut. I am going to try to suggest it
again. Maybe if I can get all of the foreign linguists working on Dinka
(like 5 of us) to suggest this notation they'll accept it. Thanks and
best wishes, John On 03.09.2012 16:35, Pamela Munro wrote: 
>> 
>>> I
have used a
>> circumflex to mark stressed (normally shown with acute ´)
on vowels that have a diaresis to show quality -- thus (if these
transmit) in Garifuna the sixth vowel (high back unrounded) is written ü
(u umlaut) and I write a stressed one as û (u circumflex). This is
pretty iconic.Pam 
>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad Pamela Munro Professor,
Department of
>> Linguistics

 


From mike_cahill at sil.org  Mon Sep  3 20:11:01 2012
From: mike_cahill at sil.org (Mike Cahill)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 15:11:01 -0500
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <e6f1bf1a29046b3a813ebeb7842d0db0@research.haifa.ac.il>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.151101.0500.MIKECAHILL@SIL.ORG>

Well, worth a shot, anyhow. Conceptually, it's like marking a question with a question mark. Presumably each of these contexts should have a different symbolization. Just out of curiosity, did you try that, or was your suggestion one symbol to cover all these?

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of john
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 11:24 AM
To: funknet at mailman.rice.edu
Subject: Re: [FUNKNET] marking diaresis and accent

 

Believe me, I've tried this idea. This was in fact my initial idea and I only gave it up because I was unable to convince the Dinkas to do this. The specific contexts are: 

(1) 2nd person subject past and
future auxiliary verbs (to distinguish from 1st person subject forms).


(2) 2nd person subject inflections on the verbs (to distinguish them from passives) 

(3) The distal demonstrative (as opposed to the proximal demonstrative), and 

(4) The 'Non-Topical Subject'
construction, in which OVS rather than SVO order is used (this is distinct from the passive, where there is either no agent or the agent is preceded by a preposition). 

They have a much easier time
conceptualizing marking tone in these contexts rather than marking the contexts themselves. They regard marking the contexts as somehow unnatural. 

Best wishes, 

John 

On 03.09.2012 18:12, Mike Cahill
wrote: 

> Yes, there's font solutions that can combine diacritics, but
crucially, for any solution to be used, it must have buy-in by the actual users. It's good that the Dinka (at least some of them) see the need - that's a huge step. 
> 
> I think there may be a totally
different approach possible here, since you're talking about "a limited number of contexts (specifically high tone in specific grammatical contexts which are always associated in high tone in all forms and all dialects)." So far, everyone has focused on the phonetically high tone, and how to mark it, localizing the tone mark on that particular vowel.
Another possibility, since you're talking about a grammatical construction, is to mark that particular grammatical construction. Once the Dinka know that it's that construction, then they will pronounce it the way that construction is pronounced. 
> 
> Not knowing what
construction you're talking about, I can't be too specific on suggestions, but one type of example that's been used is an otherwise unused letter or punctuation mark at the beginning of the sentence or word to mark a specific grammatical construction. 
> 
> This also has
the advantage that in writing, they'll use that symbol (assuming it's been taught well). One problem with trying to mark a phonetic high tone in a very few contexts is that people may have trouble in writing, to decide when to mark high tone and when not to, and they'll probably end up not marking at all, not a desirable outcome.
> 
> Best to you,
> 
>
Mike Cahill
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu
[mailto:funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of john
> Sent:
Monday, September 03, 2012 9:34 AM
> To: Claire Bowern
> Cc: Pamela
Munro; funknet at mailman.rice.eduSubject: Re: [FUNKNET] marking diaresis and accent
> 
> They agree that high tone should be written in certain
contexts, but when the vowel is already marked with diaeresis, there isn't any obvious way to write it. Adding both diaeresis AND an accent mark over vowels would get too crowded, no one wants this. 
> 
> John
>

> On 03.09.2012 17:08,
> Claire Bowern wrote:
> 
>> Why not just use
one of the many unicode fonts
> 
> that allows combining
> 
>>
diacritics? That includes Times New Roman.
> 
> More philosophically,
there's a long tradition in orthography designof outsiders mandating
solutions which don't get used for reasonswhich ultimately have little
to do with orthography itself. It soundslike you already have agreement
on how speakers would like this to berepresented, so why not use that
and get the technology to work foryou?
> Sent from my iPad Pamela Munro
Professor, 
> 
> Department of

 


From john at research.haifa.ac.il  Tue Sep  4 05:36:03 2012
From: john at research.haifa.ac.il (john)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 08:36:03 +0300
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <f9a5089dd1e32348bb00e41c7ec2a665@sil.org>
Message-ID: <TUE.4.SEP.2012.083603.0300.JOHN@RESEARCH.HAIFA.AC.IL>

 

I did try suggestion one symbol for each function. They didn't like
it. They need something to hold onto phonologically. It's a little
surprising because the Nuers their neighbors have accepted the idea of
using / to indicate negation on an auxiliary, which is also related to
tone. 

Best wishes, 

John 

On 03.09.2012 23:11, Mike Cahill wrote:


> Well, worth a shot, anyhow. Conceptually, it's like marking a
question with a question mark. Presumably each of these contexts should
have a different symbolization. Just out of curiosity, did you try that,
or was your suggestion one symbol to cover all these?
> 
> Mike
> 
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu
[mailto:funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of john
> Sent:
Monday, September 03, 2012 11:24 AM
> To:
funknet at mailman.rice.eduSubject: Re: [FUNKNET] marking diaresis and
accent
> 
> Believe me, I've tried this idea. This was in fact my
initial idea and I only gave it up because I was unable to convince the
Dinkas to do this. The specific contexts are: 
> 
> (1) 2nd person
subject past and
> future auxiliary verbs (to distinguish from 1st
person subject forms).
> 
> (2) 2nd person subject inflections on the
verbs (to distinguish them from passives) 
> 
> (3) The distal
demonstrative (as opposed to the proximal demonstrative), and 
> 
> (4)
The 'Non-Topical Subject'
> construction, in which OVS rather than SVO
order is used (this is distinct from the passive, where there is either
no agent or the agent is preceded by a preposition). 
> 
> They have a
much easier time
> conceptualizing marking tone in these contexts rather
than marking the contexts themselves. They regard marking the contexts
as somehow unnatural. 
> 
> Best wishes, 
> 
> John 
> 
> On 03.09.2012
18:12, Mike Cahill
> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, there's font solutions that can
combine diacritics, but
> 
> crucially, for any solution to be used, it
must have buy-in by the actual users. It's good that the Dinka (at least
some of them) see the need - that's a huge step.
> 
>> I think there may
be a totally
> 
> different approach possible here, since you're talking
about "a limited number of contexts (specifically high tone in specific
grammatical contexts which are always associated in high tone in all
forms and all dialects)." So far, everyone has focused on the
phonetically high tone, and how to mark it, localizing the tone mark on
that particular vowel.
> Another possibility, since you're talking about
a grammatical construction, is to mark that particular grammatical
construction. Once the Dinka know that it's that construction, then they
will pronounce it the way that construction is pronounced.
>
funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of john To: Claire Bowern
Cc: Pamela 
> 
> Munro; funknet at mailman.rice.eduSubject:Re: [FUNKNET]
marking diaresis and accent
> Department of
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>>


 


From adamp at ipipan.waw.pl  Tue Sep  4 22:32:51 2012
From: adamp at ipipan.waw.pl (Adam Przepiorkowski)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:32:51 +0200
Subject: Journal of Language Modelling
Message-ID: <WED.5.SEP.2012.003251.0200.ADAMP@IPIPAN.WAW.PL>

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From a.schalley at griffith.edu.au  Sun Sep  9 23:54:22 2012
From: a.schalley at griffith.edu.au (Andrea Schalley)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:54:22 +1000
Subject: Last call: Workshop on Aspect across Languages
Message-ID: <MON.10.SEP.2012.095422.1000.A.SCHALLEY@GRIFFITH.EDU.AU>

* LAST CALL FOR PAPERS, DEADLINE APPROACHING *

WORKSHOP: Aspect Across Languages: Divergence and Convergence

DATE: 05-Dec-2012 - 07-Dec-2012

LOCATION: Perth, WA, Australia

CONTACT:
Andrea Schalley
a.schalley at griffith.edu.au

URL: <https://sites.google.com/site/als2012uwa/home/workshops/aspect>


SUBMISSION DEADLINE: 20-Sep-2012


WORKSHOP DESCRIPTION:

The level of complexity and importance of aspectual systems in 
languages, compounded by the diversity of approaches to representing 
aspect, make aspect an extremely interesting topic for discussion. In 
this workshop, we would like to engage in this discussion from a 
cross-linguistic perspective. Although many authors have thoroughly 
addressed and investigated issues surrounding aspect, there still 
remains a lack of uniformity in regard to the theoretical notion of 
aspect (Beavers, 2008, in press; Borer, 2005; Comrie, 1976; de Swart, 
1998; Dowty, 1979; Filip, 2008; Klein, 1994; Krifka, 1998; Vendler, 
1967, amongst others). Aspect can roughly be delimited as describing the 
speaker's perspective on the internal organisation of an action, event 
or state, which not only covers temporal perspectives, but might also 
include characteristics such as progressive, habitual, repetition, 
momentary, bounded, perfective etc. (Bybee, Perkins, & Pagliuca, 1994; 
Dahl, 1985; Smith, 1997; Talmy, 2000; Verkuyl, 1993).

Topics of interest in this workshop include but are not limited to:

- definitions and classifications of aspectual notions;
- diachronic perspectives on aspect;
- aspectual coding in specific languages, i.e. single-language 
treatments of aspect;
- comparisons of aspect across different languages.

The workshop is held as part of the Annual Conference of the Australian 
Linguistic Society (https://sites.google.com/site/als2012uwa/home).


CALL FOR PAPERS:

We invite abstracts of up to 500 words. Please submit your abstract at

<https://bookings.arts.uwa.edu.au/ocs/index.php/linguistics/linguistics2012/schedConf/cfp>

Papers will be of 30 minutes duration, consisting of a 20 minute 
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of the conference.

We particularly invite contributions that focus on the premise that 
aspectual categories reflect conceptual structures and which make these 
structures explicit. In addition, we welcome analytical and comparative 
studies of aspect across languages as well as discussions and 
presentations that help to clarify the current knowledge base of aspect 
terminology. Authors with problematic and non-standard examples as well 
as with work in progress are encouraged to contribute.


PROGRAM COMMITTEE:

Helen Arnot, Griffith University, Australia
John Beavers, University of Texas at Austin, USA
Östen Dahl, University of Stockholm, Sweden
Stefan Engelberg, Institute for the German Language (IDS) Mannheim, Germany
Hana Filip, University of Düsseldorf, Germany
Mark Harvey, University of Newcastle, Australia
Beth Levin, Stanford University, USA
Robert Mailhammer, University of Western Sydney, Australia
Rachel Nordlinger, University of Melbourne , Australia
Andrea Schalley, Griffith University, Australia
Ruth Singer, University of Melbourne, Australia


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Andrea Schalley
Helen Arnot

Linguistic Subfield: Linguistic Theories
              Semantics
              Typology
              General Linguistics
              Historical Linguistics


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From francisco.ruizdemendoza at unirioja.es  Wed Sep 19 21:00:27 2012
From: francisco.ruizdemendoza at unirioja.es (Francisco Ruiz de Mendoza)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:00:27 +0200
Subject: 31st AESLA CONFERENCE
 =?windows-1252?Q?=93COMUNICATION=2C_COGNITION=2C_CYBERNETICS=94_?=UNIVERSITY OF LA LAGUNA 18th-20th
 APRIL, 2013
Message-ID: <WED.19.SEP.2012.230027.0200.FRANCISCO.RUIZDEMENDOZA@UNIRIOJA.ES>

http://aesla2013.tucongreso.es/en/poster

31st AESLA CONFERENCE “COMUNICATION, COGNITION, CYBERNETICS”
UNIVERSITY OF LA LAGUNA 18th-20th APRIL, 2013

FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT and CALL FOR PAPERS
The Spanish Applied Linguistics Association is pleased to announce details
of its 2013 Annual Conference, to be held at the University of La Laguna,
Tenerife 18-20 April 2013.
The conference theme, Communication, Cognition and Cybernetics, invites
contributions on possible interfaces among different research domains
within the general field of applied linguistics.
The thirty-first AESLA conference takes place at a time of cultural, social
and economic uncertainty, conditions which while challenging us also
frequently herald periods of renewal and the quest for hitherto unexplored
intellectual perspectives.  At a time such as this there is an even greater
need to forge links between apparently unrelated areas and to generate new
understandings in a bid to provide both novel answers to the questions that
always perplex us and creative solutions to the challenges we currently
meet. A crucial component of this intellectual position is the willingness
to build bridges between disciplines that lend themselves to synergy. The
title we have given our conference – “Communication, cognition and
cybernetics” - rests on the convergence of disciplines which, although
dissimilar, complement one another in the service of applied linguistics in
our time.
Keynote speakers (confirmed):
- Teresa Cadierno, Syddansk Universitet-Odense
- Juana Gil Fernández, Centro de Ciencias Humanas y Sociales, CSIC
- Rodney H. Jones, City University of Hong Kong
- James Pustejovsky, Brandeis University
- Robert D. Van Valin Jr., Heinrich Heine University in Düsseldorf
We invite the submission of proposals for papers, posters or round tables
(not more than 500 words, figures and references apart) related to any of
the areas represented by the ten thematic panels into which our association
is divided, especially welcome are those dealing with the topic of our
conference: communication, cognition and cybernetics:
Language acquisition
Language teaching
Language for specific purposes
Language psychology, child language and psycholinguistics
Sociolinguistics
Pragmatics
Discourse analysis
Corpus linguistics, computational linguistics and linguistic engineering
Lexicology and lexicography
Translation and interpreting
Special interdisciplinary section: technologies and linguistic research
Proposals must be submitted using the online proposal submission form:
http://aesla2013.tucongreso.es
, no later than November 30th 2012 . The list of panel coordinators and
contact details can be downloaded from: http://www.aesla.uji.es/paneles.
Authors will be notified of the acceptance/rejection of their papers around
21st December, once the review process is completed. No more than 2
contributions per author will be accepted. The conference languages are
Spanish and English.
Thank you for your interest. We look forward to receiving your proposal.

The organizing committee


From ENG_SHH at SHSU.EDU  Sun Sep 23 22:32:02 2012
From: ENG_SHH at SHSU.EDU (Halmari, Helena)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:32:02 -0500
Subject: Readings on Linguistic Analysis of Literature--Summary
Message-ID: <SUN.23.SEP.2012.173202.0500.ENGSHH@SHSU.EDU>

Almost a year ago, I asked for recommendations for articles and books that I could use in a graduate (MA-level) seminar entitled "Linguistic Analysis of Literature," which I regularly teach in a literature-focused English department. Some of the MA students have no background in linguistics. 

I am very grateful for the multitude of replies and excellent suggestions, many of which included syllabi and web links. Many thanks to the following: Rong Chen, Rich Epstein, Margaret Freeman, Justin Fuller, Hartmut Haberland, Craig Hancock, Berenike Herrmann, Eva Skafte Jensen, Tina Krennmayr, George Lakoff, Herb Luthin, Peter Lang International Academic Publishing, Kari Pitkänen, Eloy J. M. Romero-Muñoz, Johanna Rubba, Dan Slobin, Wendy Smith, Eve Sweetser, and Arie Verhagen. 

The attached summary is twelve pages long. I apologize in advance if I have accidentally left out some suggestions.

Again, my sincere thanks. 
Helena Halmari

From ENG_SHH at SHSU.EDU  Sun Sep 23 22:53:32 2012
From: ENG_SHH at SHSU.EDU (Halmari, Helena)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:53:32 -0500
Subject: Readings on Linguistic Analysis of Literature--Summary
In-Reply-To: <14490FC9AC6B8F46AED1D6B2C85D347B02B4DFF03A02@EXMBX4.SHSU.EDU>
Message-ID: <SUN.23.SEP.2012.175332.0500.ENGSHH@SHSU.EDU>

If you are interested in getting the 12-page summary bibliography, please email to me directly at:

        halmari at shsu.edu   

Thanks, 
Helena Halmari
Department of English, Professor and Chair
Journal of Finnish Studies, Editor-in-Chief
________________________________________
From: funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of Halmari, Helena [ENG_SHH at shsu.edu]
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 5:32 PM
To: funknet at mailman.rice.edu
Subject: [FUNKNET] Readings on Linguistic Analysis of Literature--Summary

Almost a year ago, I asked for recommendations for articles and books that I could use in a graduate (MA-level) seminar entitled "Linguistic Analysis of Literature," which I regularly teach in a literature-focused English department. Some of the MA students have no background in linguistics.

I am very grateful for the multitude of replies and excellent suggestions, many of which included syllabi and web links. Many thanks to the following: Rong Chen, Rich Epstein, Margaret Freeman, Justin Fuller, Hartmut Haberland, Craig Hancock, Berenike Herrmann, Eva Skafte Jensen, Tina Krennmayr, George Lakoff, Herb Luthin, Peter Lang International Academic Publishing, Kari Pitkänen, Eloy J. M. Romero-Muñoz, Johanna Rubba, Dan Slobin, Wendy Smith, Eve Sweetser, and Arie Verhagen.

The attached summary is twelve pages long. I apologize in advance if I have accidentally left out some suggestions.

Again, my sincere thanks.
Helena Halmari


From bdc3.rice at gmail.com  Mon Sep 24 19:36:33 2012
From: bdc3.rice at gmail.com (Benjamin Chauvette)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 14:36:33 -0500
Subject: First Call:  Rice Working Papers in Linguistics, Volume 4
Message-ID: <MON.24.SEP.2012.143633.0500.>

*FIRST CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS

Rice Working Papers in Linguistics is currently soliciting submissions for its fourth volume. Please see the guidelines below and consider submitting your work to the editors at <rwpl at rice.edu>.

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RICE WORKING PAPERS IN LINGUISTICS, VOLUME 4
DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSIONS: Friday, December 14, 2012

===============

Rice Working Papers in Linguistics (RWPL; ISSN 1944-0081) is a refereed, open-access online publication of the Rice Linguistics Society, with support from the Department of Linguistics at Rice University in Houston, TX.

RWPL publishes working papers and squibs that emphasize functional, usage-based approaches to the study of language.  The publication focuses on issues related to empirical aspects of linguistics. To that end, we especially welcome methodological and ethical discussions, sociolinguistic and areal survey reports, field reports, and project post-mortems. Presentations of intriguing or difficult data, particularly ones that merit further research, are also encouraged.

With the exception of ESL/TESOL and speech-language pathology, submissions in almost all subfields of linguistics will be considered for publication. Acceptable subfields include, but are not limited to cognitive/ functional linguistics, documentary and descriptive linguistics, language revitalization, sociolinguistics (including sociophonetics), discourse and corpus linguistics, language typology and universals, language change and grammaticalization, laboratory phonetics and phonology, language processing, and psycholinguistics.

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From fg-fgw at uva.nl  Fri Sep 28 10:40:54 2012
From: fg-fgw at uva.nl (fg-fgw)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:40:54 +0000
Subject: CFP wenen
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Message-ID: <FRI.28.SEP.2012.104054.0000.FGFGW@UVA.NL>

Dear colleague,

Attached please find the call for papers for the international workshop on The Lexicon in Functional Discourse Grammar, to be held at the University of Vienna, 5-6 September 2013.

Best wishes,

Kees Hengeveld

From mariel at post.tau.ac.il  Sun Sep 30 07:34:39 2012
From: mariel at post.tau.ac.il (Mira Ariel)
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 09:34:39 +0200
Subject: CALL FOR PAPERS IPrA New Delhi
Message-ID: <SUN.30.SEP.2012.093439.0200.MARIEL@POST.TAU.AC.IL>

Urgent Call for papers for an accepted IPrA panel (New Delhi, Sept. 8-13,
2013)

 

http://ipra.ua.ac.be/main.aspx?c=.CONFERENCE13

 

Natural-language connectives: Evidence from discourse, typology and
grammaticization

 

Mira Ariel -Tel Aviv University

Caterina Mauri - University of Pavia

 

Connectives play a crucial role in human reasoning and discourse, and have
therefore received attention in a number of different research fields, i.e.
logic, formal semantics, pragmatics, discourse analysis, typology,
historical linguistics, psycholinguistics. The new challenge now is to
integrate theoretical and empirical tools elaborated in neighboring - but
only recently communicating - fields, looking for converging evidence, in
order to understand their behavior in natural languages.

We aim to resolve potentially contradicting analyses, and let converging
evidence emerge as a basis for an integrated approach to connectives.
Crucial questions we would like to address at this panel are:

*	What are the structural and functional properties of connectives in
natural languages?
*	To what extent does cross-linguistic variation mirror the great
intra-linguistic variation that may be observed in discourse use?
*	To what extent can we integrate data coming from the examination of
corpora with data coming from typological and diachronic surveys in the
elaboration of a 'theory' of connectives?
*	Are there recurrent diachronic paths that may be argued to
characterize the rise of connectives, which may possibly explain the
attested cross-linguistic and intra-linguistic variation? 
*	How are connectives used and processed in discourse, and to what
extent does this influence their structural properties?

We welcome empirical papers addressing the questions above by providing
typological analyses, diachronic data and/or discourse studies on
connectives, with a preference for papers showing some converging evidence.

 

Confirmed Speakers:

Mira Ariel, Gabriele Diewald, Volker Gast, Caterina Mauri, Sandrine Zufferey
and Liesbeth Degand, Yael Ziv

 

We're on a very tight schedule, for which we apologize. We need to receive
your 500 word abstract by Oct. 20, so it can be submitted by Nov. 1.
Participants must be IprA members by Nov. 1 2012 in order to submit an
abstract!

 

Please send your abstract to Mira Ariel (mariel at post.tau.ac.il) and to
Caterina Mauri (caterina.mauri. at unipv.it).

 

Best,

 

Mira Ariel and Caterina Mauri

 


From john at research.haifa.ac.il  Mon Sep  3 11:06:07 2012
From: john at research.haifa.ac.il (john)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 14:06:07 +0300
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.140607.0300.JOHN@RESEARCH.HAIFA.AC.IL>

 

Dear Funknetters, 

On my recent trip to South Sudan, I managed to
convinced a group of Dinka language specialists that it would be a good
idea to mark tone in a limited number of contexts (specifically high
tone in specific grammatical contexts which are always associated in
high tone in all forms and all dialects). This would be pretty rare,
occurring on maybe 1 or 2 percent of the vowels. The problem is that
they already mark voice quality with diaresis (aka umlauts, two dots
over the vowel), and this occurs on about a third of the vowels. The
most common way to mark tone in African languages is with an acute
accent, but this would create a complication in that some vowels would
need to be marked for both voice quality AND tone. This would be a bit
of a mess, aside from which I don't know of any fonts which have such a
symbol. I thought of using the Hungarian long umlaut (basically two
parallel acute accents) to mark both diaresis and acute accent
simultaneously (this is the diacritic function it has in Hungarian,
although both of the linguistic functions are completely different).
This was not a great hit with the Dinkas, I guess because they'd never
seen it before, but I suppose they might accept it if they were given
some kind of keyboard demonstration showing that it really isn't so
complicated. Another difficulty is that in Hungarian at least this
symbol is only used over <u> and <o>, but in Dinka it would have to be
used over all 7 vowels (the five basic ones and also ? and ?, which are
part of the regular orthography). Do any of you have any ideas of how to
deal with this problem of marking diaresis and tone (it can be something
other than acute accent, I don't really care) simultaneously and/or the
associated problem of how to write it on a computer keyboard? 

Thanks,


John 
 


From munro at ucla.edu  Mon Sep  3 13:35:31 2012
From: munro at ucla.edu (Pamela Munro)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 15:35:31 +0200
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <1773f59bdc99e880c3d33848d12667b6@research.haifa.ac.il>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.153531.0200.MUNRO@UCLA.EDU>

I have used a circumflex to mark stressed (normally shown with acute ?) on vowels that have a diaresis to show quality -- thus (if these transmit) in Garifuna the sixth vowel (high back unrounded) is written ? (u umlaut) and I write a stressed one as ? (u circumflex). This is pretty iconic.

Pam

Sent from my iPad

Pamela Munro
Professor, Department of Linguistics
UCLA Box 951543
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1543


On Sep 3, 2012, at 1:06 PM, john <john at research.haifa.ac.il> wrote:

> 
> 
> Dear Funknetters, 
> 
> On my recent trip to South Sudan, I managed to
> convinced a group of Dinka language specialists that it would be a good
> idea to mark tone in a limited number of contexts (specifically high
> tone in specific grammatical contexts which are always associated in
> high tone in all forms and all dialects). This would be pretty rare,
> occurring on maybe 1 or 2 percent of the vowels. The problem is that
> they already mark voice quality with diaresis (aka umlauts, two dots
> over the vowel), and this occurs on about a third of the vowels. The
> most common way to mark tone in African languages is with an acute
> accent, but this would create a complication in that some vowels would
> need to be marked for both voice quality AND tone. This would be a bit
> of a mess, aside from which I don't know of any fonts which have such a
> symbol. I thought of using the Hungarian long umlaut (basically two
> parallel acute accents) to mark both diaresis and acute accent
> simultaneously (this is the diacritic function it has in Hungarian,
> although both of the linguistic functions are completely different).
> This was not a great hit with the Dinkas, I guess because they'd never
> seen it before, but I suppose they might accept it if they were given
> some kind of keyboard demonstration showing that it really isn't so
> complicated. Another difficulty is that in Hungarian at least this
> symbol is only used over <u> and <o>, but in Dinka it would have to be
> used over all 7 vowels (the five basic ones and also ? and ?, which are
> part of the regular orthography). Do any of you have any ideas of how to
> deal with this problem of marking diaresis and tone (it can be something
> other than acute accent, I don't really care) simultaneously and/or the
> associated problem of how to write it on a computer keyboard? 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> John 
> 


From john at research.haifa.ac.il  Mon Sep  3 13:52:28 2012
From: john at research.haifa.ac.il (john)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 16:52:28 +0300
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <ABB58284-5071-485E-BB77-7D8DE1DBAB41@ucla.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.165228.0300.JOHN@RESEARCH.HAIFA.AC.IL>

 

Hi Pam, 

I briefly suggested this to them last week (among other
suggestions). The objection raised was that the circumflex has been
traditionally used by linguists working on Dinka (and I think Nilotic
languages in general) to mark falling tone. This has never been used in
the orthography but unfortunately the Dinkas who would be deciding
whether to accept this have I think gotten used to this notation. It's
especially unfortunate because they have considerable difficulty even
perceiving falling tone, and the situations in which it's used differ
radically from dialect to dialect (unlike the cases in which I've
convinced them to use high tone marking, which are the same in all
dialects), so the category of falling tone is for practical purposes
orthographically useless. I agree that it's a pretty iconic way to
combine umlaut and acute accent, and it's more familiar to them that the
Hungarian long umlaut. I am going to try to suggest it again. Maybe if I
can get all of the foreign linguists working on Dinka (like 5 of us) to
suggest this notation they'll accept it. 

Thanks and best wishes,


John 

On 03.09.2012 16:35, Pamela Munro wrote: 

> I have used a
circumflex to mark stressed (normally shown with acute ?) on vowels that
have a diaresis to show quality -- thus (if these transmit) in Garifuna
the sixth vowel (high back unrounded) is written ? (u umlaut) and I
write a stressed one as ? (u circumflex). This is pretty iconic.
> 
>
Pam
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Pamela Munro
> Professor, Department of
Linguistics
> UCLA Box 951543
> Los Angeles, CA 90095-1543
> 
> On Sep
3, 2012, at 1:06 PM, john <john at research.haifa.ac.il> wrote:
> 
>> Dear
Funknetters, On my recent trip to South Sudan, I managed to convinced a
group of Dinka language specialists that it would be a good idea to mark
tone in a limited number of contexts (specifically high tone in specific
grammatical contexts which are always associated in high tone in all
forms and all dialects). This would be pretty rare, occurring on maybe 1
or 2 percent of the vowels. The problem is that they already mark voice
quality with diaresis (aka umlauts, two dots over the vowel), and this
occurs on about a third of the vowels. The most common way to mark tone
in African languages is with an acute accent, but this would create a
complication in that some vowels would need to be marked for both voice
quality AND tone. This would be a bit of a mess, aside from which I
don't know of any fonts which have such a symbol. I thought of using the
Hungarian long umlaut (basically two parallel acute accents) to mark
both diaresis and acute accent simultaneously (this is the diacritic
function it has in Hungarian, although both of the linguistic functions
are completely different). This was not a great hit with the Dinkas, I
guess because they'd never seen it before, but I suppose they might
accept it if they were given some kind of keyboard demonstration showing
that it really isn't so complicated. Another difficulty is that in
Hungarian at least this symbol is only used over and , but in Dinka it
would have to be used over all 7 vowels (the five basic ones and also ?
and ?, which are part of the regular orthography). Do any of you have
any ideas of how to deal with this problem of marking diaresis and tone
(it can be something other than acute accent, I don't really care)
simultaneously and/or the associated problem of how to write it on a
computer keyboard? Thanks, John

 


From john at research.haifa.ac.il  Mon Sep  3 14:33:48 2012
From: john at research.haifa.ac.il (john)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 17:33:48 +0300
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <CAN6Cvhe4VE5szoUP1rWq3gdUT4y+8Rbs5qJs6e-o466oej5_dA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.173348.0300.JOHN@RESEARCH.HAIFA.AC.IL>

 

They agree that high tone should be written in certain contexts, but
when the vowel is already marked with diaeresis, there isn't any obvious
way to write it. Adding both diaeresis AND an accent mark over vowels
would get too crowded, no one wants this. 

John 

On 03.09.2012 17:08,
Claire Bowern wrote: 

> Why not just use one of the many unicode fonts
that allows combining
> diacritics? That includes Times New Roman.
>
More philosophically, there's a long tradition in orthography design
>
of outsiders mandating solutions which don't get used for reasons
>
which ultimately have little to do with orthography itself. It sounds
>
like you already have agreement on how speakers would like this to be
>
represented, so why not use that and get the technology to work for
>
you?
> Claire
> 
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:52 AM, john
<john at research.haifa.ac.il> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pam, I briefly suggested
this to them last week (among other suggestions). The objection raised
was that the circumflex has been traditionally used by linguists working
on Dinka (and I think Nilotic languages in general) to mark falling
tone. This has never been used in the orthography but unfortunately the
Dinkas who would be deciding whether to accept this have I think gotten
used to this notation. It's especially unfortunate because they have
considerable difficulty even perceiving falling tone, and the situations
in which it's used differ radically from dialect to dialect (unlike the
cases in which I've convinced them to use high tone marking, which are
the same in all dialects), so the category of falling tone is for
practical purposes orthographically useless. I agree that it's a pretty
iconic way to combine umlaut and acute accent, and it's more familiar to
them that the Hungarian long umlaut. I am going to try to suggest it
again. Maybe if I can get all of the foreign linguists working on Dinka
(like 5 of us) to suggest this notation they'll accept it. Thanks and
best wishes, John On 03.09.2012 16:35, Pamela Munro wrote: 
>> 
>>> I
have used a
>> circumflex to mark stressed (normally shown with acute ?)
on vowels that have a diaresis to show quality -- thus (if these
transmit) in Garifuna the sixth vowel (high back unrounded) is written ?
(u umlaut) and I write a stressed one as ? (u circumflex). This is
pretty iconic.Pam 
>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad Pamela Munro Professor,
Department of
>> Linguistics

 


From mike_cahill at sil.org  Mon Sep  3 15:12:57 2012
From: mike_cahill at sil.org (Mike Cahill)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 10:12:57 -0500
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <819e881f7c2a9c7ca1b2d9e3417f90d0@research.haifa.ac.il>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.101257.0500.MIKECAHILL@SIL.ORG>

Yes, there's font solutions that can combine diacritics, but crucially, for any solution to be used, it must have buy-in by the actual users. It's good that the Dinka (at least some of them) see the need - that's a huge step. 

I think there may be a totally different approach possible here, since you're talking about "a limited number of contexts (specifically high tone in specific grammatical contexts which are always associated in high tone in all forms and all dialects)." So far, everyone has focused on the phonetically high tone, and how to mark it, localizing the tone mark on that particular vowel. Another possibility, since you're talking about a grammatical construction, is to mark that particular grammatical construction. Once the Dinka know that it's that construction, then they will pronounce it the way that construction is pronounced. 

Not knowing what construction you're talking about, I can't be too specific on suggestions, but one type of example that's been used is an otherwise unused letter or punctuation mark at the beginning of the sentence or word to mark a specific grammatical construction. 

This also has the advantage that in writing, they'll use that symbol (assuming it's been taught well). One problem with trying to mark a phonetic high tone in a very few contexts is that people may have trouble in writing, to decide when to mark high tone and when not to, and they'll probably end up not marking at all, not a desirable outcome.

Best to you,

Mike Cahill

-----Original Message-----
From: funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of john
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 9:34 AM
To: Claire Bowern
Cc: Pamela Munro; funknet at mailman.rice.edu
Subject: Re: [FUNKNET] marking diaresis and accent

 

They agree that high tone should be written in certain contexts, but when the vowel is already marked with diaeresis, there isn't any obvious way to write it. Adding both diaeresis AND an accent mark over vowels would get too crowded, no one wants this. 

John 

On 03.09.2012 17:08,
Claire Bowern wrote: 

> Why not just use one of the many unicode fonts
that allows combining
> diacritics? That includes Times New Roman.
>
More philosophically, there's a long tradition in orthography design
>
of outsiders mandating solutions which don't get used for reasons
>
which ultimately have little to do with orthography itself. It sounds
>
like you already have agreement on how speakers would like this to be
>
represented, so why not use that and get the technology to work for
>
you?
> Claire
> 
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:52 AM, john
<john at research.haifa.ac.il> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pam, I briefly suggested
this to them last week (among other suggestions). The objection raised was that the circumflex has been traditionally used by linguists working on Dinka (and I think Nilotic languages in general) to mark falling tone. This has never been used in the orthography but unfortunately the Dinkas who would be deciding whether to accept this have I think gotten used to this notation. It's especially unfortunate because they have considerable difficulty even perceiving falling tone, and the situations in which it's used differ radically from dialect to dialect (unlike the cases in which I've convinced them to use high tone marking, which are the same in all dialects), so the category of falling tone is for practical purposes orthographically useless. I agree that it's a pretty iconic way to combine umlaut and acute accent, and it's more familiar to them that the Hungarian long umlaut. I am going to try to suggest it again. Maybe if I can get all of the foreign linguists working on Dinka (like 5 of us) to suggest this notation they'll accept it. Thanks and best wishes, John On 03.09.2012 16:35, Pamela Munro wrote: 
>> 
>>> I
have used a
>> circumflex to mark stressed (normally shown with acute ?)
on vowels that have a diaresis to show quality -- thus (if these
transmit) in Garifuna the sixth vowel (high back unrounded) is written ? (u umlaut) and I write a stressed one as ? (u circumflex). This is pretty iconic.Pam 
>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad Pamela Munro Professor,
Department of
>> Linguistics

 


From john at research.haifa.ac.il  Mon Sep  3 16:23:30 2012
From: john at research.haifa.ac.il (john)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:23:30 +0300
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <787bc8e16634e94aa644f639f6d7c13a@sil.org>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.192330.0300.JOHN@RESEARCH.HAIFA.AC.IL>

 

Believe me, I've tried this idea. This was in fact my initial idea
and I only gave it up because I was unable to convince the Dinkas to do
this. The specific contexts are: 

(1) 2nd person subject past and
future auxiliary verbs (to distinguish from 1st person subject forms).


(2) 2nd person subject inflections on the verbs (to distinguish them
from passives) 

(3) The distal demonstrative (as opposed to the
proximal demonstrative), and 

(4) The 'Non-Topical Subject'
construction, in which OVS rather than SVO order is used (this is
distinct from the passive, where there is either no agent or the agent
is preceded by a preposition). 

They have a much easier time
conceptualizing marking tone in these contexts rather than marking the
contexts themselves. They regard marking the contexts as somehow
unnatural. 

Best wishes, 

John 

On 03.09.2012 18:12, Mike Cahill
wrote: 

> Yes, there's font solutions that can combine diacritics, but
crucially, for any solution to be used, it must have buy-in by the
actual users. It's good that the Dinka (at least some of them) see the
need - that's a huge step. 
> 
> I think there may be a totally
different approach possible here, since you're talking about "a limited
number of contexts (specifically high tone in specific grammatical
contexts which are always associated in high tone in all forms and all
dialects)." So far, everyone has focused on the phonetically high tone,
and how to mark it, localizing the tone mark on that particular vowel.
Another possibility, since you're talking about a grammatical
construction, is to mark that particular grammatical construction. Once
the Dinka know that it's that construction, then they will pronounce it
the way that construction is pronounced. 
> 
> Not knowing what
construction you're talking about, I can't be too specific on
suggestions, but one type of example that's been used is an otherwise
unused letter or punctuation mark at the beginning of the sentence or
word to mark a specific grammatical construction. 
> 
> This also has
the advantage that in writing, they'll use that symbol (assuming it's
been taught well). One problem with trying to mark a phonetic high tone
in a very few contexts is that people may have trouble in writing, to
decide when to mark high tone and when not to, and they'll probably end
up not marking at all, not a desirable outcome.
> 
> Best to you,
> 
>
Mike Cahill
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu
[mailto:funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of john
> Sent:
Monday, September 03, 2012 9:34 AM
> To: Claire Bowern
> Cc: Pamela
Munro; funknet at mailman.rice.eduSubject: Re: [FUNKNET] marking diaresis
and accent
> 
> They agree that high tone should be written in certain
contexts, but when the vowel is already marked with diaeresis, there
isn't any obvious way to write it. Adding both diaeresis AND an accent
mark over vowels would get too crowded, no one wants this. 
> 
> John 
>

> On 03.09.2012 17:08,
> Claire Bowern wrote:
> 
>> Why not just use
one of the many unicode fonts
> 
> that allows combining
> 
>>
diacritics? That includes Times New Roman.
> 
> More philosophically,
there's a long tradition in orthography designof outsiders mandating
solutions which don't get used for reasonswhich ultimately have little
to do with orthography itself. It soundslike you already have agreement
on how speakers would like this to berepresented, so why not use that
and get the technology to work foryou?
> Sent from my iPad Pamela Munro
Professor, 
> 
> Department of

 


From pyoung at uoregon.edu  Mon Sep  3 16:28:46 2012
From: pyoung at uoregon.edu (Phil Young)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 09:28:46 -0700
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <1773f59bdc99e880c3d33848d12667b6@research.haifa.ac.il>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.092846.0700.PYOUNG@UOREGON.EDU>

John,

How about just reduplicating the vowel without the diaresis, e.g., <?a>.

Phil Young


From bdc3 at rice.edu  Mon Sep  3 16:35:16 2012
From: bdc3 at rice.edu (Benjamin Chauvette)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 11:35:16 -0500
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <1773f59bdc99e880c3d33848d12667b6@research.haifa.ac.il>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.113516.0500.BDC3@RICE.EDU>

Have you considered using digraphs instead of diacritics, like in Cantonese
Pinyin?

For example, it looks like the Dinka orthography already uses <h>
exclusively for consonantal digraphs, so the adopting it for tonal digraphs
wouldn't be much of a stretch. Speakers could even use apostrophes or
hyphens, if they aren't used elsewhere in the orthography.

Best,
Ben Chauvette

On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 6:06 AM, john <john at research.haifa.ac.il> wrote:

>
>
> Dear Funknetters,
>
> On my recent trip to South Sudan, I managed to
> convinced a group of Dinka language specialists that it would be a good
> idea to mark tone in a limited number of contexts (specifically high
> tone in specific grammatical contexts which are always associated in
> high tone in all forms and all dialects). This would be pretty rare,
> occurring on maybe 1 or 2 percent of the vowels. The problem is that
> they already mark voice quality with diaresis (aka umlauts, two dots
> over the vowel), and this occurs on about a third of the vowels. The
> most common way to mark tone in African languages is with an acute
> accent, but this would create a complication in that some vowels would
> need to be marked for both voice quality AND tone. This would be a bit
> of a mess, aside from which I don't know of any fonts which have such a
> symbol. I thought of using the Hungarian long umlaut (basically two
> parallel acute accents) to mark both diaresis and acute accent
> simultaneously (this is the diacritic function it has in Hungarian,
> although both of the linguistic functions are completely different).
> This was not a great hit with the Dinkas, I guess because they'd never
> seen it before, but I suppose they might accept it if they were given
> some kind of keyboard demonstration showing that it really isn't so
> complicated. Another difficulty is that in Hungarian at least this
> symbol is only used over <u> and <o>, but in Dinka it would have to be
> used over all 7 vowels (the five basic ones and also ? and ?, which are
> part of the regular orthography). Do any of you have any ideas of how to
> deal with this problem of marking diaresis and tone (it can be something
> other than acute accent, I don't really care) simultaneously and/or the
> associated problem of how to write it on a computer keyboard?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> John
>
>
>


From chafe at linguistics.ucsb.edu  Mon Sep  3 16:37:25 2012
From: chafe at linguistics.ucsb.edu (Wallace Chafe)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 09:37:25 -0700
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <ac1ea29ced9610632aa4b55fe5fa1fab@research.haifa.ac.il>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.093725.0700.CHAFE@LINGUISTICS.UCSB.EDU>

John (who?)

For whatever it's worth, Seneca is written with the umlaut for nasalized 
vowels (nostrils), and it's quite possible to add a raised accent mark 
(either acute or grave) that fits on top of the two dots. It's possible 
with Times New Roman, and probably other fonts.

Wally Chafe

--On Monday, September 03, 2012 4:52 PM +0300 john 
<john at research.haifa.ac.il> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Pam,
>
> I briefly suggested this to them last week (among other
> suggestions). The objection raised was that the circumflex has been
> traditionally used by linguists working on Dinka (and I think Nilotic
> languages in general) to mark falling tone. This has never been used in
> the orthography but unfortunately the Dinkas who would be deciding
> whether to accept this have I think gotten used to this notation. It's
> especially unfortunate because they have considerable difficulty even
> perceiving falling tone, and the situations in which it's used differ
> radically from dialect to dialect (unlike the cases in which I've
> convinced them to use high tone marking, which are the same in all
> dialects), so the category of falling tone is for practical purposes
> orthographically useless. I agree that it's a pretty iconic way to
> combine umlaut and acute accent, and it's more familiar to them that the
> Hungarian long umlaut. I am going to try to suggest it again. Maybe if I
> can get all of the foreign linguists working on Dinka (like 5 of us) to
> suggest this notation they'll accept it.
>
> Thanks and best wishes,
>
>
> John
>
> On 03.09.2012 16:35, Pamela Munro wrote:
>
>> I have used a
> circumflex to mark stressed (normally shown with acute ?) on vowels that
> have a diaresis to show quality -- thus (if these transmit) in Garifuna
> the sixth vowel (high back unrounded) is written ? (u umlaut) and I
> write a stressed one as ? (u circumflex). This is pretty iconic.
>>
>>
> Pam
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> Pamela Munro
>> Professor, Department of
> Linguistics
>> UCLA Box 951543
>> Los Angeles, CA 90095-1543
>>
>> On Sep
> 3, 2012, at 1:06 PM, john <john at research.haifa.ac.il> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear
> Funknetters, On my recent trip to South Sudan, I managed to convinced a
> group of Dinka language specialists that it would be a good idea to mark
> tone in a limited number of contexts (specifically high tone in specific
> grammatical contexts which are always associated in high tone in all
> forms and all dialects). This would be pretty rare, occurring on maybe 1
> or 2 percent of the vowels. The problem is that they already mark voice
> quality with diaresis (aka umlauts, two dots over the vowel), and this
> occurs on about a third of the vowels. The most common way to mark tone
> in African languages is with an acute accent, but this would create a
> complication in that some vowels would need to be marked for both voice
> quality AND tone. This would be a bit of a mess, aside from which I
> don't know of any fonts which have such a symbol. I thought of using the
> Hungarian long umlaut (basically two parallel acute accents) to mark
> both diaresis and acute accent simultaneously (this is the diacritic
> function it has in Hungarian, although both of the linguistic functions
> are completely different). This was not a great hit with the Dinkas, I
> guess because they'd never seen it before, but I suppose they might
> accept it if they were given some kind of keyboard demonstration showing
> that it really isn't so complicated. Another difficulty is that in
> Hungarian at least this symbol is only used over and , but in Dinka it
> would have to be used over all 7 vowels (the five basic ones and also ?
> and ?, which are part of the regular orthography). Do any of you have
> any ideas of how to deal with this problem of marking diaresis and tone
> (it can be something other than acute accent, I don't really care)
> simultaneously and/or the associated problem of how to write it on a
> computer keyboard? Thanks, John
>
>


From john at research.haifa.ac.il  Mon Sep  3 16:39:06 2012
From: john at research.haifa.ac.il (john)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:39:06 +0300
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <542225027.20120903092846@uoregon.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.193906.0300.JOHN@RESEARCH.HAIFA.AC.IL>

 

They already have two lengths of vowels. Three orthographic lengths
is too much. 

John 

On 03.09.2012 19:28, Phil Young wrote: 

> John,
>

> How about just reduplicating the vowel without the diaresis, e.g.,
.
> 
> Phil Young

 


From john at research.haifa.ac.il  Mon Sep  3 16:43:00 2012
From: john at research.haifa.ac.il (john)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:43:00 +0300
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <CAE5057F00DFA5CF1704F3DD@[192.168.7.100]>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.194300.0300.JOHN@RESEARCH.HAIFA.AC.IL>

 

(myhill) 

We've suggested that. They say it looks like a mess and
I'm inclined to agree. Nuer (a neighboring closely related language)
does something like this (the grammatical functions are different, but
the orthography idea is the same) and it's really a pain to read. Also
reading researchers at my university have consistently found that double
diacritics really slows down reading. 

Best wishes, 

John 

On
03.09.2012 19:37, Wallace Chafe wrote: 

> John (who?)
> 
> For whatever
it's worth, Seneca is written with the umlaut for nasalized 
> vowels
(nostrils), and it's quite possible to add a raised accent mark 
>
(either acute or grave) that fits on top of the two dots. It's possible

> with Times New Roman, and probably other fonts.
> 
> Wally Chafe
> 
>
--On Monday, September 03, 2012 4:52 PM +0300 john 
>
<john at research.haifa.ac.il> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pam, I briefly suggested
this to them last week (among other suggestions). The objection raised
was that the circumflex has been traditionally used by linguists working
on Dinka (and I think Nilotic languages in general) to mark falling
tone. This has never been used in the orthography but unfortunately the
Dinkas who would be deciding whether to accept this have I think gotten
used to this notation. It's especially unfortunate because they have
considerable difficulty even perceiving falling tone, and the situations
in which it's used differ radically from dialect to dialect (unlike the
cases in which I've convinced them to use high tone marking, which are
the same in all dialects), so the category of falling tone is for
practical purposes orthographically useless. I agree that it's a pretty
iconic way to combine umlaut and acute accent, and it's more familiar to
them that the Hungarian long umlaut. I am going to try to suggest it
again. Maybe if I can get all of the foreign linguists working on Dinka
(like 5 of us) to suggest this notation they'll accept it. Thanks and
best wishes, John On 03.09.2012 16:35, Pamela Munro wrote: 
>> 
>>> I
have used a
>> circumflex to mark stressed (normally shown with acute ?)
on vowels that have a diaresis to show quality -- thus (if these
transmit) in Garifuna the sixth vowel (high back unrounded) is written ?
(u umlaut) and I write a stressed one as ? (u circumflex). This is
pretty iconic.Pam 
>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad Pamela Munro Professor,
Department of
>> Linguistics

 


From mike_cahill at sil.org  Mon Sep  3 20:11:01 2012
From: mike_cahill at sil.org (Mike Cahill)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 15:11:01 -0500
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <e6f1bf1a29046b3a813ebeb7842d0db0@research.haifa.ac.il>
Message-ID: <MON.3.SEP.2012.151101.0500.MIKECAHILL@SIL.ORG>

Well, worth a shot, anyhow. Conceptually, it's like marking a question with a question mark. Presumably each of these contexts should have a different symbolization. Just out of curiosity, did you try that, or was your suggestion one symbol to cover all these?

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of john
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 11:24 AM
To: funknet at mailman.rice.edu
Subject: Re: [FUNKNET] marking diaresis and accent

 

Believe me, I've tried this idea. This was in fact my initial idea and I only gave it up because I was unable to convince the Dinkas to do this. The specific contexts are: 

(1) 2nd person subject past and
future auxiliary verbs (to distinguish from 1st person subject forms).


(2) 2nd person subject inflections on the verbs (to distinguish them from passives) 

(3) The distal demonstrative (as opposed to the proximal demonstrative), and 

(4) The 'Non-Topical Subject'
construction, in which OVS rather than SVO order is used (this is distinct from the passive, where there is either no agent or the agent is preceded by a preposition). 

They have a much easier time
conceptualizing marking tone in these contexts rather than marking the contexts themselves. They regard marking the contexts as somehow unnatural. 

Best wishes, 

John 

On 03.09.2012 18:12, Mike Cahill
wrote: 

> Yes, there's font solutions that can combine diacritics, but
crucially, for any solution to be used, it must have buy-in by the actual users. It's good that the Dinka (at least some of them) see the need - that's a huge step. 
> 
> I think there may be a totally
different approach possible here, since you're talking about "a limited number of contexts (specifically high tone in specific grammatical contexts which are always associated in high tone in all forms and all dialects)." So far, everyone has focused on the phonetically high tone, and how to mark it, localizing the tone mark on that particular vowel.
Another possibility, since you're talking about a grammatical construction, is to mark that particular grammatical construction. Once the Dinka know that it's that construction, then they will pronounce it the way that construction is pronounced. 
> 
> Not knowing what
construction you're talking about, I can't be too specific on suggestions, but one type of example that's been used is an otherwise unused letter or punctuation mark at the beginning of the sentence or word to mark a specific grammatical construction. 
> 
> This also has
the advantage that in writing, they'll use that symbol (assuming it's been taught well). One problem with trying to mark a phonetic high tone in a very few contexts is that people may have trouble in writing, to decide when to mark high tone and when not to, and they'll probably end up not marking at all, not a desirable outcome.
> 
> Best to you,
> 
>
Mike Cahill
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu
[mailto:funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of john
> Sent:
Monday, September 03, 2012 9:34 AM
> To: Claire Bowern
> Cc: Pamela
Munro; funknet at mailman.rice.eduSubject: Re: [FUNKNET] marking diaresis and accent
> 
> They agree that high tone should be written in certain
contexts, but when the vowel is already marked with diaeresis, there isn't any obvious way to write it. Adding both diaeresis AND an accent mark over vowels would get too crowded, no one wants this. 
> 
> John
>

> On 03.09.2012 17:08,
> Claire Bowern wrote:
> 
>> Why not just use
one of the many unicode fonts
> 
> that allows combining
> 
>>
diacritics? That includes Times New Roman.
> 
> More philosophically,
there's a long tradition in orthography designof outsiders mandating
solutions which don't get used for reasonswhich ultimately have little
to do with orthography itself. It soundslike you already have agreement
on how speakers would like this to berepresented, so why not use that
and get the technology to work foryou?
> Sent from my iPad Pamela Munro
Professor, 
> 
> Department of

 


From john at research.haifa.ac.il  Tue Sep  4 05:36:03 2012
From: john at research.haifa.ac.il (john)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 08:36:03 +0300
Subject: marking diaresis and accent
In-Reply-To: <f9a5089dd1e32348bb00e41c7ec2a665@sil.org>
Message-ID: <TUE.4.SEP.2012.083603.0300.JOHN@RESEARCH.HAIFA.AC.IL>

 

I did try suggestion one symbol for each function. They didn't like
it. They need something to hold onto phonologically. It's a little
surprising because the Nuers their neighbors have accepted the idea of
using / to indicate negation on an auxiliary, which is also related to
tone. 

Best wishes, 

John 

On 03.09.2012 23:11, Mike Cahill wrote:


> Well, worth a shot, anyhow. Conceptually, it's like marking a
question with a question mark. Presumably each of these contexts should
have a different symbolization. Just out of curiosity, did you try that,
or was your suggestion one symbol to cover all these?
> 
> Mike
> 
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu
[mailto:funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of john
> Sent:
Monday, September 03, 2012 11:24 AM
> To:
funknet at mailman.rice.eduSubject: Re: [FUNKNET] marking diaresis and
accent
> 
> Believe me, I've tried this idea. This was in fact my
initial idea and I only gave it up because I was unable to convince the
Dinkas to do this. The specific contexts are: 
> 
> (1) 2nd person
subject past and
> future auxiliary verbs (to distinguish from 1st
person subject forms).
> 
> (2) 2nd person subject inflections on the
verbs (to distinguish them from passives) 
> 
> (3) The distal
demonstrative (as opposed to the proximal demonstrative), and 
> 
> (4)
The 'Non-Topical Subject'
> construction, in which OVS rather than SVO
order is used (this is distinct from the passive, where there is either
no agent or the agent is preceded by a preposition). 
> 
> They have a
much easier time
> conceptualizing marking tone in these contexts rather
than marking the contexts themselves. They regard marking the contexts
as somehow unnatural. 
> 
> Best wishes, 
> 
> John 
> 
> On 03.09.2012
18:12, Mike Cahill
> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, there's font solutions that can
combine diacritics, but
> 
> crucially, for any solution to be used, it
must have buy-in by the actual users. It's good that the Dinka (at least
some of them) see the need - that's a huge step.
> 
>> I think there may
be a totally
> 
> different approach possible here, since you're talking
about "a limited number of contexts (specifically high tone in specific
grammatical contexts which are always associated in high tone in all
forms and all dialects)." So far, everyone has focused on the
phonetically high tone, and how to mark it, localizing the tone mark on
that particular vowel.
> Another possibility, since you're talking about
a grammatical construction, is to mark that particular grammatical
construction. Once the Dinka know that it's that construction, then they
will pronounce it the way that construction is pronounced.
>
funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of john To: Claire Bowern
Cc: Pamela 
> 
> Munro; funknet at mailman.rice.eduSubject:Re: [FUNKNET]
marking diaresis and accent
> Department of
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>>


 


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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:32:51 +0200
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Message-ID: <WED.5.SEP.2012.003251.0200.ADAMP@IPIPAN.WAW.PL>

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From: a.schalley at griffith.edu.au (Andrea Schalley)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:54:22 +1000
Subject: Last call: Workshop on Aspect across Languages
Message-ID: <MON.10.SEP.2012.095422.1000.A.SCHALLEY@GRIFFITH.EDU.AU>

* LAST CALL FOR PAPERS, DEADLINE APPROACHING *

WORKSHOP: Aspect Across Languages: Divergence and Convergence

DATE: 05-Dec-2012 - 07-Dec-2012

LOCATION: Perth, WA, Australia

CONTACT:
Andrea Schalley
a.schalley at griffith.edu.au

URL: <https://sites.google.com/site/als2012uwa/home/workshops/aspect>


SUBMISSION DEADLINE: 20-Sep-2012


WORKSHOP DESCRIPTION:

The level of complexity and importance of aspectual systems in 
languages, compounded by the diversity of approaches to representing 
aspect, make aspect an extremely interesting topic for discussion. In 
this workshop, we would like to engage in this discussion from a 
cross-linguistic perspective. Although many authors have thoroughly 
addressed and investigated issues surrounding aspect, there still 
remains a lack of uniformity in regard to the theoretical notion of 
aspect (Beavers, 2008, in press; Borer, 2005; Comrie, 1976; de Swart, 
1998; Dowty, 1979; Filip, 2008; Klein, 1994; Krifka, 1998; Vendler, 
1967, amongst others). Aspect can roughly be delimited as describing the 
speaker's perspective on the internal organisation of an action, event 
or state, which not only covers temporal perspectives, but might also 
include characteristics such as progressive, habitual, repetition, 
momentary, bounded, perfective etc. (Bybee, Perkins, & Pagliuca, 1994; 
Dahl, 1985; Smith, 1997; Talmy, 2000; Verkuyl, 1993).

Topics of interest in this workshop include but are not limited to:

- definitions and classifications of aspectual notions;
- diachronic perspectives on aspect;
- aspectual coding in specific languages, i.e. single-language 
treatments of aspect;
- comparisons of aspect across different languages.

The workshop is held as part of the Annual Conference of the Australian 
Linguistic Society (https://sites.google.com/site/als2012uwa/home).


CALL FOR PAPERS:

We invite abstracts of up to 500 words. Please submit your abstract at

<https://bookings.arts.uwa.edu.au/ocs/index.php/linguistics/linguistics2012/schedConf/cfp>

Papers will be of 30 minutes duration, consisting of a 20 minute 
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of the conference.

We particularly invite contributions that focus on the premise that 
aspectual categories reflect conceptual structures and which make these 
structures explicit. In addition, we welcome analytical and comparative 
studies of aspect across languages as well as discussions and 
presentations that help to clarify the current knowledge base of aspect 
terminology. Authors with problematic and non-standard examples as well 
as with work in progress are encouraged to contribute.


PROGRAM COMMITTEE:

Helen Arnot, Griffith University, Australia
John Beavers, University of Texas at Austin, USA
?sten Dahl, University of Stockholm, Sweden
Stefan Engelberg, Institute for the German Language (IDS) Mannheim, Germany
Hana Filip, University of D?sseldorf, Germany
Mark Harvey, University of Newcastle, Australia
Beth Levin, Stanford University, USA
Robert Mailhammer, University of Western Sydney, Australia
Rachel Nordlinger, University of Melbourne , Australia
Andrea Schalley, Griffith University, Australia
Ruth Singer, University of Melbourne, Australia


WORKSHOP ORGANISERS:

Andrea Schalley
Helen Arnot

Linguistic Subfield: Linguistic Theories
              Semantics
              Typology
              General Linguistics
              Historical Linguistics


-- 
Dr Andrea Schalley
Senior Lecturer in Linguistics
School of Languages and Linguistics
Nathan Campus, Griffith University
Nathan, Brisbane, QLD 4111
AUSTRALIA
Ph: +61 7 3735-4428
Fax: +61 7 3735-6766
Email: a.schalley at griffith.edu.au


From francisco.ruizdemendoza at unirioja.es  Wed Sep 19 21:00:27 2012
From: francisco.ruizdemendoza at unirioja.es (Francisco Ruiz de Mendoza)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:00:27 +0200
Subject: 31st AESLA CONFERENCE
 =?windows-1252?Q?=93COMUNICATION=2C_COGNITION=2C_CYBERNETICS=94_?=UNIVERSITY OF LA LAGUNA 18th-20th
 APRIL, 2013
Message-ID: <WED.19.SEP.2012.230027.0200.FRANCISCO.RUIZDEMENDOZA@UNIRIOJA.ES>

http://aesla2013.tucongreso.es/en/poster

31st AESLA CONFERENCE ?COMUNICATION, COGNITION, CYBERNETICS?
UNIVERSITY OF LA LAGUNA 18th-20th APRIL, 2013

FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT and CALL FOR PAPERS
The Spanish Applied Linguistics Association is pleased to announce details
of its 2013 Annual Conference, to be held at the University of La Laguna,
Tenerife 18-20 April 2013.
The conference theme, Communication, Cognition and Cybernetics, invites
contributions on possible interfaces among different research domains
within the general field of applied linguistics.
The thirty-first AESLA conference takes place at a time of cultural, social
and economic uncertainty, conditions which while challenging us also
frequently herald periods of renewal and the quest for hitherto unexplored
intellectual perspectives.  At a time such as this there is an even greater
need to forge links between apparently unrelated areas and to generate new
understandings in a bid to provide both novel answers to the questions that
always perplex us and creative solutions to the challenges we currently
meet. A crucial component of this intellectual position is the willingness
to build bridges between disciplines that lend themselves to synergy. The
title we have given our conference ? ?Communication, cognition and
cybernetics? - rests on the convergence of disciplines which, although
dissimilar, complement one another in the service of applied linguistics in
our time.
Keynote speakers (confirmed):
- Teresa Cadierno, Syddansk Universitet-Odense
- Juana Gil Fern?ndez, Centro de Ciencias Humanas y Sociales, CSIC
- Rodney H. Jones, City University of Hong Kong
- James Pustejovsky, Brandeis University
- Robert D. Van Valin Jr., Heinrich Heine University in D?sseldorf
We invite the submission of proposals for papers, posters or round tables
(not more than 500 words, figures and references apart) related to any of
the areas represented by the ten thematic panels into which our association
is divided, especially welcome are those dealing with the topic of our
conference: communication, cognition and cybernetics:
Language acquisition
Language teaching
Language for specific purposes
Language psychology, child language and psycholinguistics
Sociolinguistics
Pragmatics
Discourse analysis
Corpus linguistics, computational linguistics and linguistic engineering
Lexicology and lexicography
Translation and interpreting
Special interdisciplinary section: technologies and linguistic research
Proposals must be submitted using the online proposal submission form:
http://aesla2013.tucongreso.es
, no later than November 30th 2012 . The list of panel coordinators and
contact details can be downloaded from: http://www.aesla.uji.es/paneles.
Authors will be notified of the acceptance/rejection of their papers around
21st December, once the review process is completed. No more than 2
contributions per author will be accepted. The conference languages are
Spanish and English.
Thank you for your interest. We look forward to receiving your proposal.

The organizing committee


From ENG_SHH at SHSU.EDU  Sun Sep 23 22:32:02 2012
From: ENG_SHH at SHSU.EDU (Halmari, Helena)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:32:02 -0500
Subject: Readings on Linguistic Analysis of Literature--Summary
Message-ID: <SUN.23.SEP.2012.173202.0500.ENGSHH@SHSU.EDU>

Almost a year ago, I asked for recommendations for articles and books that I could use in a graduate (MA-level) seminar entitled "Linguistic Analysis of Literature," which I regularly teach in a literature-focused English department. Some of the MA students have no background in linguistics. 

I am very grateful for the multitude of replies and excellent suggestions, many of which included syllabi and web links. Many thanks to the following: Rong Chen, Rich Epstein, Margaret Freeman, Justin Fuller, Hartmut Haberland, Craig Hancock, Berenike Herrmann, Eva Skafte Jensen, Tina Krennmayr, George Lakoff, Herb Luthin, Peter Lang International Academic Publishing, Kari Pitk?nen, Eloy J. M. Romero-Mu?oz, Johanna Rubba, Dan Slobin, Wendy Smith, Eve Sweetser, and Arie Verhagen. 

The attached summary is twelve pages long. I apologize in advance if I have accidentally left out some suggestions.

Again, my sincere thanks. 
Helena Halmari

From ENG_SHH at SHSU.EDU  Sun Sep 23 22:53:32 2012
From: ENG_SHH at SHSU.EDU (Halmari, Helena)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:53:32 -0500
Subject: Readings on Linguistic Analysis of Literature--Summary
In-Reply-To: <14490FC9AC6B8F46AED1D6B2C85D347B02B4DFF03A02@EXMBX4.SHSU.EDU>
Message-ID: <SUN.23.SEP.2012.175332.0500.ENGSHH@SHSU.EDU>

If you are interested in getting the 12-page summary bibliography, please email to me directly at:

        halmari at shsu.edu   

Thanks, 
Helena Halmari
Department of English, Professor and Chair
Journal of Finnish Studies, Editor-in-Chief
________________________________________
From: funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [funknet-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of Halmari, Helena [ENG_SHH at shsu.edu]
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 5:32 PM
To: funknet at mailman.rice.edu
Subject: [FUNKNET] Readings on Linguistic Analysis of Literature--Summary

Almost a year ago, I asked for recommendations for articles and books that I could use in a graduate (MA-level) seminar entitled "Linguistic Analysis of Literature," which I regularly teach in a literature-focused English department. Some of the MA students have no background in linguistics.

I am very grateful for the multitude of replies and excellent suggestions, many of which included syllabi and web links. Many thanks to the following: Rong Chen, Rich Epstein, Margaret Freeman, Justin Fuller, Hartmut Haberland, Craig Hancock, Berenike Herrmann, Eva Skafte Jensen, Tina Krennmayr, George Lakoff, Herb Luthin, Peter Lang International Academic Publishing, Kari Pitk?nen, Eloy J. M. Romero-Mu?oz, Johanna Rubba, Dan Slobin, Wendy Smith, Eve Sweetser, and Arie Verhagen.

The attached summary is twelve pages long. I apologize in advance if I have accidentally left out some suggestions.

Again, my sincere thanks.
Helena Halmari


From bdc3.rice at gmail.com  Mon Sep 24 19:36:33 2012
From: bdc3.rice at gmail.com (Benjamin Chauvette)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 14:36:33 -0500
Subject: First Call:  Rice Working Papers in Linguistics, Volume 4
Message-ID: <MON.24.SEP.2012.143633.0500.>

*FIRST CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS

Rice Working Papers in Linguistics is currently soliciting submissions for its fourth volume. Please see the guidelines below and consider submitting your work to the editors at <rwpl at rice.edu>.

===============

RICE WORKING PAPERS IN LINGUISTICS, VOLUME 4
DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSIONS: Friday, December 14, 2012

===============

Rice Working Papers in Linguistics (RWPL; ISSN 1944-0081) is a refereed, open-access online publication of the Rice Linguistics Society, with support from the Department of Linguistics at Rice University in Houston, TX.

RWPL publishes working papers and squibs that emphasize functional, usage-based approaches to the study of language.  The publication focuses on issues related to empirical aspects of linguistics. To that end, we especially welcome methodological and ethical discussions, sociolinguistic and areal survey reports, field reports, and project post-mortems. Presentations of intriguing or difficult data, particularly ones that merit further research, are also encouraged.

With the exception of ESL/TESOL and speech-language pathology, submissions in almost all subfields of linguistics will be considered for publication. Acceptable subfields include, but are not limited to cognitive/ functional linguistics, documentary and descriptive linguistics, language revitalization, sociolinguistics (including sociophonetics), discourse and corpus linguistics, language typology and universals, language change and grammaticalization, laboratory phonetics and phonology, language processing, and psycholinguistics.

Information about past volumes of the working papers is available at <http://rls.rice.edu/rwpl/>.

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Submissions must meet the following minimum style requirements:

*  Maximum 30 pages in length, not including references,
    appendices, tables, and figures
*  12pt font size, using one of the following typefaces:
    -  Linux Libertine
    -  FreeSerif
    -  Liberation Serif
    -  Times New Roman
*  One inch (1?) margins on all sides
*  Letter sized paper (8.5?x11?)
*  Double spaced throughout

In addition, to ensure a fair review process, all information that could reveal a paper's authorship must be removed from both its content and metadata prior to its submission.

Accepted submissions will be required to follow the RWPL Style Sheet, available at <http://rls.rice.edu/rwpl/style-sheet/>.

---------------

RWPL accepts only electronic submissions, which must be emailed to the editors at <rwpl at rice.edu>. The body of the email must contain the following information:

*  Title of paper
*  Author name(s)
*  Author affiliation(s)
*  Author contact information
*  Acknowledgments (if desired)

All submissions must also attach the following items as separate files to the email:

*  A document containing the title of the paper, at least
    3 keywords, and a maximum 350 word abstract
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    -  OpenDocument (.odt)
    -  LaTeX (.tex)
*  A copy of the paper as a PDF


The deadline for submissions is Friday, December 14, 2012.

Questions regarding the submissions process or style requirements may be addressed to the editors via email at <rwpl at rice.edu>.*


From v.evans at bangor.ac.uk  Thu Sep 27 14:15:26 2012
From: v.evans at bangor.ac.uk (Vyv Evans)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:15:26 +0100
Subject: Summer School in Cognitive Linguistics, Bangor University,
 July 2013
Message-ID: <THU.27.SEP.2012.151526.0100.V.EVANS@BANGOR.AC.UK>

Summer School in Cognitive Linguistics
July 22-26, 2013, Bangor University, UK

http://www.bangor.ac.uk/cogling-summerschool

The Summer School in Cognitive Linguistics is a one-week international 
programme held at Bangor University in July 2013. The Summer School will 
consist of 16 courses on topics in cognitive linguistics and will be 
taught by leading researchers in the field. Our teaching faculty will be 
drawn from across the cognitive sciences and include local instructors 
as well as distinguished researchers from outside Bangor.

The Summer School will also feature keynote speeches by Gilles 
Fauconnier, Adele Goldberg, and Vyvyan Evans, and a poster session 
during which participants can present their work and obtain feedback.

Teaching faculty:
- Benjamin Bergen (University of California, San Diego)
- Silke Brandt (Lancaster University)
- Daniel Casasanto (New School for Social Research, New York)
- Alan J. Cienki (Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam)
- Ewa Dabrowska (Northumbria University)
- Christopher Hart (Northumbria University)
- Willem Hollmann (Lancaster University)
- June Luchjenbroers (Bangor University)
- Laura Michaelis (University of Colorado, Boulder)
- Aliyah Morgenstern (Universit? Paris III ? Sorbonne Nouvelle)
- Patrick Rebuschat (Bangor University)
- Gabriella Rundblad (King?s College London)
- Christopher Shank (Bangor University)
- Luc Steels (Vrije Universiteit Brussels)
- Thora Tenbrink (Bangor University)
- Alan Wallington (Bangor University)

This event provides a unique opportunity for students and researchers to 
get a snapshot of the exciting work done in cognitive linguistics and to 
discuss their research. It is also a wonderful opportunity to visit 
North Wales and to enjoy some of the most beautiful landscapes and 
historical sites in the United Kingdom.

Registration opens in October 2012 and closes in June 2013. Early-bird 
rates are available for participants who register by April 15, 2013.
- Early-bird fee with accommodation: ?475*
- Early-bird fee without accommodation: ?375
*includes transfer to/from Manchester airport

For more information, please consult the Summer School website 
(www.bangor.ac.uk/cogling-summerschool) or email the School Director, 
Dr. Patrick Rebuschat (p.rebuschat at bangor.ac.uk).


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From fg-fgw at uva.nl  Fri Sep 28 10:40:54 2012
From: fg-fgw at uva.nl (fg-fgw)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:40:54 +0000
Subject: CFP wenen
In-Reply-To: <FFBC6CDD-898D-4E28-9766-7773B8EFE3B0@uva.nl>
Message-ID: <FRI.28.SEP.2012.104054.0000.FGFGW@UVA.NL>

Dear colleague,

Attached please find the call for papers for the international workshop on The Lexicon in Functional Discourse Grammar, to be held at the University of Vienna, 5-6 September 2013.

Best wishes,

Kees Hengeveld

From mariel at post.tau.ac.il  Sun Sep 30 07:34:39 2012
From: mariel at post.tau.ac.il (Mira Ariel)
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 09:34:39 +0200
Subject: CALL FOR PAPERS IPrA New Delhi
Message-ID: <SUN.30.SEP.2012.093439.0200.MARIEL@POST.TAU.AC.IL>

Urgent Call for papers for an accepted IPrA panel (New Delhi, Sept. 8-13,
2013)

 

http://ipra.ua.ac.be/main.aspx?c=.CONFERENCE13

 

Natural-language connectives: Evidence from discourse, typology and
grammaticization

 

Mira Ariel -Tel Aviv University

Caterina Mauri - University of Pavia

 

Connectives play a crucial role in human reasoning and discourse, and have
therefore received attention in a number of different research fields, i.e.
logic, formal semantics, pragmatics, discourse analysis, typology,
historical linguistics, psycholinguistics. The new challenge now is to
integrate theoretical and empirical tools elaborated in neighboring - but
only recently communicating - fields, looking for converging evidence, in
order to understand their behavior in natural languages.

We aim to resolve potentially contradicting analyses, and let converging
evidence emerge as a basis for an integrated approach to connectives.
Crucial questions we would like to address at this panel are:

*	What are the structural and functional properties of connectives in
natural languages?
*	To what extent does cross-linguistic variation mirror the great
intra-linguistic variation that may be observed in discourse use?
*	To what extent can we integrate data coming from the examination of
corpora with data coming from typological and diachronic surveys in the
elaboration of a 'theory' of connectives?
*	Are there recurrent diachronic paths that may be argued to
characterize the rise of connectives, which may possibly explain the
attested cross-linguistic and intra-linguistic variation? 
*	How are connectives used and processed in discourse, and to what
extent does this influence their structural properties?

We welcome empirical papers addressing the questions above by providing
typological analyses, diachronic data and/or discourse studies on
connectives, with a preference for papers showing some converging evidence.

 

Confirmed Speakers:

Mira Ariel, Gabriele Diewald, Volker Gast, Caterina Mauri, Sandrine Zufferey
and Liesbeth Degand, Yael Ziv

 

We're on a very tight schedule, for which we apologize. We need to receive
your 500 word abstract by Oct. 20, so it can be submitted by Nov. 1.
Participants must be IprA members by Nov. 1 2012 in order to submit an
abstract!

 

Please send your abstract to Mira Ariel (mariel at post.tau.ac.il) and to
Caterina Mauri (caterina.mauri. at unipv.it).

 

Best,

 

Mira Ariel and Caterina Mauri