tenure/promotion query

[Margaret E. Winters]

To add to Ellen's note - you may also, depending on policies/practices where you are, be shown the entire list before it is narrowed down by the chair, department P&T committee or whoever makes the choices.  At Wayne State the candidate is allowed to strike up to two names (someone the candidate as clashed with, whose review of the candidates work has in the past been very negative)...  But otherwise it all that Ellen stated is very much what I've told groups in various universities about this part of the process.

Margaret

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Margaret E. Winters 
Interim Provost 
Wayne State University 
Detroit, MI 48202 

Phone: (313) 577- 2433 
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ellen Contini-Morava" <elc9j at virginia.edu>
To: funknet at mailman.rice.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 11:56:54 AM
Subject: Re: [FUNKNET] tenure/promotion query

Dear Shannon,

Thanks very much for the helpful post.  One point about external 
reviewers:  I wouldn't expect the candidate to have complete control 
over who is asked for a review.  Sometimes they have no say at all in 
this.  At U.Va. candidates are asked to provide a list of potential 
reviewers, but the department is also asked to provide its own list, and 
usually equal numbers of requests go out to people from each list.  But 
the department must specify in its report which reviewers come from 
which list, and there's also a widespread belief that letters from the 
candidate's list get paid less attention to by the P&T committee  than 
ones from the department's list.  So in deciding who to include on 
his/her list, the candidate might not want to include the heaviest 
lifters, in hopes that the department will think of them on its own.

All the best,

Ellen

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University of Virginia
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On 8/6/2013 11:36 AM, s.t. bischoff wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Thanks to everyone that responded to my earlier query on list and off. Here
> is a summary of what I learned. Nearly everyone responded with the
> following regarding tenure/promotion:
>
> 1. schedule a meeting with your universities union  (if there is one on
> your campus);
>
> 2. be sure you are familiar with all tenure/promotion requirements (be sure
> you are familiar with department, college, and university requirements as
> these may differ);
>
> 3. be sure you have the most recent requirements for tenure/promotion in
> writing...if your department does not have a written policy, try to get
> something from the department chair or relevant committee (do the same at
> the college and university level);
>
> 4. be aware that prior reviews are not necessarily an indicator of how
> things will go (a number of folks noted examples of folks with excellent
> prior reviews who did not get tenure/promotion);
>
> 5. go to all tenure/promotion workshops;
>
> 6. pay increases may be set, may have a range, and may be negotiable, but
> regardless chat with someone you are comfortable with about negotiating a
> raise, also speak with your union rep about this...many public institutions
> are required to make public salaries and salary records public, these can
> be reviewed;
>
> 7. go on the market--primary reasons given were "just in case you don't get
> the tenure/promotion" and "it could put you in a good position when
> negotiating a salary";
>
> A few also recommended that outside reviewers be chosen carefully. This is
> the one thing I wish I had spent more time on as our institution requires
> six external reviewers.
>
> Regarding Fulbright, folks had the following to say:
>
> 1. stay home, write, and publish (this was the most frequent response);
>
> 2. popular locations (e.g. Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand) are very
> competitive and often go to "stars", some regions maybe under applied to;
>
> 3. other countries have good programs for research/teaching exchanges e.g.
> Japan has programs with the Japanese Society for the Promotion of Science
> and Germany has the Research in Germany website with various resources.
>
> 4. Folks that have participated in Fulbright programs report having very
> good experiences and suggest "just follow all the guidelines" when applying
> and be sure to have a sponsor in the host country.
>
> Thanks again,
> Shannon