<STRONG><U>PLEASE STOP EMAILING ME<BR></U><BR><I>r-depaula <r-depaula@UOL.COM.BR></I> wrote:</STRONG> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <DIV>> People,</DIV> <DIV>I understand a point about the word choice. I usually use the term homoerotic women. </DIV> <DIV>Rogéria</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I see your point.</DIV> <DIV>> But within the current gender system, the critique would be "Any </DIV> <DIV>> Lesbian is not a real woman".</DIV> <DIV>> </DIV> <DIV>> I am not criticizing you, but your choices are attached to certain </DIV> <DIV>> political interpretations, whether you believe in them or not.</DIV> <DIV>> I'm making a point about how the logic of standard gender ideology </DIV> <DIV>> positions women who are labeled "masculine" or Lesbian".</DIV> <DIV>> </DIV> <DIV>> Other gender and sex nonconforming, or
resisting, people are also </DIV> <DIV>> similarly positioned.</DIV> <DIV>> </DIV> <DIV>> I'm sounding a note of caution, to think about this when/if </DIV> <DIV>> choosing labels, especially before starting a project. Because the </DIV> <DIV>> labels can implicitly frame the project, and you may not want to </DIV> <DIV>> frame it that way.</DIV> <DIV>> Amy</DIV> <DIV>> </DIV> <DIV>> </DIV> <DIV>> On Mar 25, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Rezenet Moges (cappucheeno@yahoo.com) </DIV> <DIV>> wrote:</DIV> <DIV>> </DIV> <DIV>> > It would not be true if I applied your logic as "masculine" women are</DIV> <DIV>> > not "real" women to this statement: "butch" lesbians are not "real"</DIV> <DIV>> > lesbians. I use the gender descriptions not to judge the mediocrity </DIV> <DIV>> > of a</DIV> <DIV>> > person's sex.</DIV> <DIV>> ></DIV> <DIV>> > -Rezenet Moges</DIV> <DIV>> ></DIV> <DIV>>
></DIV> <DIV>> > On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:30:54 -0500, Amy Sheldon <ASHELDON@UMN.EDU></DIV> <DIV>> > wrote:</DIV> <DIV>> ></DIV> <DIV>> >></DIV> <DIV>> >> One of the problems I have with the idea of describing nondrag king</DIV> <DIV>> >> women as "mascuiline" women, is that it conveys the idea that such</DIV> <DIV>> >> women are not "real" women. Not bona fide. If we stick with labels</DIV> <DIV>> >> that come out of the rhetoric of gender hierarchy and gender</DIV> <DIV>> >> categories, i.e., the status quo,, that's one of the consequences.</DIV> <DIV>> >> Gender is political.</DIV> <DIV>> >> Amy</DIV> <DIV>> >></DIV> <DIV>> ></DIV> <DIV>> >>>>> http://muddy.erinad.org</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT face=arial><STRONG>Sean Lynch</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=arial><STRONG><A
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