[gothic-l] Re: Introduction of myself.

[Manuel Gutierrez Algaba]

On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Axeage  wrote:
> > Iberians? are they semitic? are they north africans? old
> >europeans? Are basques iberians ?
>
> THE IBERIANS WERE NOT SEMITIC. SEMITIC RELATES TO THE ARABIC AND
> HEBREW PEOPLE, THEIR CULTURE, AND LANGUAGES.

I've heard that Iberians might be related to Phoenicians and other
semitic cultures. I think experts don't know exactly what they were.
The iberian language is known, at least, how it's spelt and how
it sounds , nor meanings, nor grammar.

> DURING THE MESOLITHIC AND NEOLITHIC PERIODS. OBVIOUSLY, THEIR
> PRESENCE WAS STRONGEST IN THE IBERIAN PENINSULA - BUT THEY ALSO
> SETTLED IN LARGE NUMBERS IN AQUITANIA (GASCONY), SOUTHERN ENGLAND,
> WALES, THE WESTERN COASTS OF IRELAND AND SCOTLAND, AND EVEN THE
> WESTERN COASTS OF NORWAY...

Incredible! Iberians in Norway, first news of it.

> PLUS THE SUEBIES SETTLED IN GALICIA - WHERE THERE WERE LESS ROMANS
> THAN IN ANDALUSIA, FOR EXAMPLE. LIGHT COLORED HAIR AND EYES ARE MORE
> COMMON IN GALICIA THAN ANDALUSIA AREN'T THEY?? SO MAYBE GALICIANS
> HAVE MORE CELTIC AND GERMANIC BLOOD THAN ANDALUSIANS?

It happens that many Andalusian towns are settlements of Galicians
(Axarquia) during XV century onwards. There's even French (La
Luisiana ) or German (La Carolina) in XVIII century. I've heard
that people in Asturias (close to Galicia) there's lot of blond
people. But, again, we're mixed.

>
> >Well, it's the "is" ending of indoeuropean.
>
Lactis, lactis --> milk.
Joe's horse --> the apostrophe is to replace the "i".
-is is the desinence of property ( the genitive).

> > Gonzalo comes from Gundinsalvo.
>
> REALLY? I READ IN A GENEOLOGY MESSAGE BOARD THAT THE ORIGINAL NAME
> WAS "KINSOLVING",

Correct me if not, but the -ing ending is something _very_
English, not Germanic nor indoeuropean. I think Gothics have no
-ing ending words _at all_.

> WHICH LATER EVOLVED TO "CONSOLVO", AND FINALLY TO

There're phonetic rules, and the step "i-->o" is much harder
than "u-->o". Perhaps, kundinsolvus --> kinsolvis

> "GONZALO". ANYWAYS - IS "GUNDINSALVO" GOTHIC? IS DEFINITELY LOOKS

Having a look to other Gothic king names :
Chindasvinto, Rencesvinto, Wamba, Gundemaro,  Leovigildo, Sisebuto

it seems that "usually" they're composed of two words of two
syllabs , or one word of two syllabs. "kinsolving" or
"chinsolvingo"... I don't know.


>
> > Vandals quickly passed to Africa.
>
> TRUE, BUT NOT BEFORE HAVING MANY KIDS WITH HISPANIC WIVES

They stayed very few years... I think the only thing Vandals
left us were:
- the sustantive: "vandals attacking downtown"
- the name Al-Vandalus (the vandals ) --> Andalusia

> THE
> VANDALS ARE ANOTHER TRIBE THAT ALSO HAVE AN UNFAIRLY BAD REPUTATION.

Yes, they only robbed, raped and kill... Byzantinus killed them
in North Africa.

> THEY DID TRY TO FINALLY SETTLE DOWN IN ANDALUSIA WITH THEIR NEW
> FAMILIES, BUT THE VISIGOTHS KCIKED THEM OUT. IRONIC ISIN'T IT?

Why ironic? That was their work.

>
> NORMANDY WAS BY NO MEANS AN EMPTY PLACE. IT ALREADY HAD A SIGNIFICANT
> GALLO-ROMAN AND FRANKISH POPULATION. HAD IT BEEN EMPTY - THE VIKINGS
> WOULD HAVE NOTHING TO PLUNDER.

They plunder other zones. Normandy was (is) a insane zone of
swamps and forest, cold and wet, certainly not the best part of
France.

>
> SALUDOS!,
>
> <img src="http://www.legends.dm.net/art/cid-sm3.jpg">
>

I run "pine". :)

Regards/Saludos
Manolo
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