[gothic-l] anda

keth at ONLINE.NO keth at ONLINE.NO
Wed Jul 11 12:46:26 UTC 2001


Hails Anthanareiks!
It took me at least 10 minutes to find your quote,
but then I first began to look in concordances in
other languages, whereas I should have begun with
the "Wöterbuch" immediately. So it is John VI, 63
then.

>Hails allata!
>
>
> I am making an inquiry into the Gothic word for spiritual. From
>Wulfilas´s Gothic bible:
>
> ahma ist saei liban taujiþ,
> þo waurda þoei ik rodida izwis,
> ahma ist jah libains ist,

And then I discover that you skipped a line:
"þata leik ni boteiþ waiht."

(I just make these notes so that your quote will be easier
to identify in the various Bible translations and concordances)

>From here I then go to OI "andi" and try to find the relevant
quote there:

Johs. 6:63 :
Það er andinn sem lífgar, holdið megnar ekkert.
sem ég hef talað til yðar, þau eru andi og þau eru líf.



>
> It is the spirit that quickeneth;
> the words that I speak unto you,
> they are spirit, and they are life
>
> IE equivalents:
> Gothic ahman
> ON     anda
> Sanskrit atman
>
> Thoughts?
Well, from here I just look it up in the etymological
books. e.g. Jan de Vries, that I usually find very
clear:

ON "andi" m. = breath, spirit.
Scottish aynd; middle English aand, aynd, oonde;
Old English oroð, oouð, orð (< *uz-anþ) 'breath',
and without dental suffix Gothic uzanan 'to breathe
out'.  Latin animus (=soul, spirit), anima (=breeze
or breath). Greek anemos (=wind). Old Indian ániti
(=it breathes), ánila (=wind, breath). Old Slavic
achati (=to give off fragrance), vonja (=?). Old
Irish anim (=soul), anal (=breath). Cf. anda,
angi 1, anna, ond 3 and onn 2.

So you see that I have to look up a number of other
words here. Well, I won't do that now.

I can however look up Gothic uzanan, which is a verb of class 6,
it says, and it means to breathe out. See Mc 15, 37.39.

I also see that Lehmann has the same entries under *uz-anan
(U 67) as Jan de Vries has under andi. Since I already quoted
de Vries, there is no need to quote Lehmann here, since he has
the exact same correspondences. And this is also the case
for the Skt. correspondences.

But I still haven't looked under ahma, and for that I can
use Lehmann (A 55). Here he quotes Skt. asman; Av, O.Pers. asman
stone, sky. Greek akmon =anvil, thunderbolt. He also says it is from
root "aha", but that Lutze assumes influence from *anan (=breathe)
as in *uz-anan (=to exhale).

Lehmann points then to "aha" (A 52)= nous, mind, understanding.
Also ahma = pneuma, spirit, and *ahmeins = spiritual, *ahmateins=
inspiration. Also interesting: OHG ahta, and Old Norse ætla,
that he says are related. As you know On "ætla" means to plan
or to have in mind. If I now take a loop back to de Vries again,
I may find more words. In fact de Vries then comes up with
Gothic ahjan (=to believe) and ahma (=spirit, mind) (under ON ætla
that is).

I hope this gave you some further ideas.

Golja þuk,
Keþ.



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