[gothic-l] Re: Gothic word for King

dirk at SMRA.CO.UK dirk at SMRA.CO.UK
Thu Jul 26 11:05:31 UTC 2001


--- In gothic-l at y..., "Francisc Czobor" <czobor at c...> wrote:
> Dear Alberto,
> 
> there is no "kh" in Gothic. The correct form is "Alareiks", being 
> composed of ala- "all" and reiks "ruler, prince".
> 
> Francisc
> 
> --- In gothic-l at y..., kaoru666 at h... wrote:
> > I have very little knowledge in gothic but, I think that instead 
of 
> > Alareiks it would be Alareikhs. But as I told you I am a begginer, 
> > please correct me if I am wrong. 
> > 
> > Alberto 
> > 
> >  
> > > Almost correct, I think. Alaric in Gothic would be "Alareiks".
> > > Thus: Alareiks ist þiudans unsar.
> > > 
> > > Francisc


Hi Francisc and Alberto,

can I slip in a short question about these name-forms, please. Are 
names like Alareiks, Thiudareiks, Athalareiks etc. really attested for 
those kings? Would they themselves have used these forms or are they 
more theoretical reconstructions? In documents and on coins (for the 
latter two) they used of course the latinised forms Alaricus, 
Theodericus and Athalaricus. Thus, Athalaric's full title on coins is 
D(ominus)N(oster) Athatalaricus Rix (sometimes, but rarely replaced by 
Rex). Why would the latinised form not be Athalareikus or similar if 
the commonly known and correct form of the name was Athalareiks? 

thanks
Dirk 







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