[gothic-l] Re: Gothic word for King

Francisc Czobor czobor at CANTACUZINO.RO
Fri Jul 27 09:12:03 UTC 2001


Hi Keth,

Be careful, in Greek there are two kind of "apostrophes" put before an 
initial vowel:
- the "hard spirit" (soemthing like `), indicating that before the 
vowel is an apiration (h);
- the "soft spirit" (something like '), indicating that there is no 
aspiration before the vowel.
Thus, `AláriXos is read [haláriXos], but 'AláriXos is [aláriXos]. The 
problem (at least for me) is that both signs are very easy to be mixed 
up, if you don't look very carefully at them.

Francisc

--- In gothic-l at y..., keth at o... wrote:
> Hi Francisc,
> 
> >In fact, I don't know, but it looks indeed very convenable to 
> >interprete "Alaricus" as "Alareiks", "Theodericus" as "Thiudareiks" 
> >etc.
> 
> I also found the Greek form:
> 
>  'AláriXos
> 
>  ' = apostroph
>  A = u.c. alpha
>  l = lambda
>  á = accented alpha
>  r = rho
>  i = iota
>  X = chi
>  o = omicron
>  s = sigma
> 
> I do not know if this tells us much more, but the apostrophe is 
interesting.
> Getica § 117 and § 277 also has Halaricus.
> 
> 
> Best regards
> Keth
> 
> 
> 
> Note added :
> 
> Getica § 117 : But even if he was famous for having subdued so many, 
he was not satisfied before he had struck down a large part of the 
Herulic nation, that Halaric governed, and put the remaining ones 
under his rule. According to the historian Ablabius this nation lives 
near Maeotis marshes in swampy areas, which the Greeks call "hele" and 
for this reason the nation is called Heruls. It is a quick nation and 
therefore all the more high strung.
> 
> Getica § 117 : Sed cum tantorum servitio clarus haberetur, non 
passus est nisi et gentem Herulorum, quibus praeerat Halaricus, magna 
ex parte trucidatam reliquam suae subegeret dicioni. Nam praedicta 
gens, Ablavio istorico referente, iuxta Meotida palude inhabitans in 
locis stagnantibus, quas Greci ele vocant, Eluri nominati sunt, gens 
quantum velox, eo amplius superbissima.
> 
> Similar PN : Halamardus; W.Gmc.


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