[gothic-l] Re: The Goths, Gutland (Gutones) and the Guta Saga

[Francisc Czobor]

Hi Dirk,

Here are the Old-Gutnish numbers quoted by you, together with their 
equivalents in Gothic (Wulfilan and Crimean) and in Scandinavic 
languages.

                   GOTHIC          SCANDINAVIC (NORTH GERMANIC)
   Gutnish   Wulfilan Crimean   Old Norse Icelandic Swedish Danish 
1. ann        eins     ene       einn       einn      en      en
2. tueir      twai     tua       tueir      tveir     två     to
4. fiaurir    fidwor   fyder     fiorer     fjörir    fyra    fire
7. siau       sibun    sevene    siau       sjö       sju     syv

It seems to me obvious only from this example that the Old Gutnish 
language is rather related to North Germanic than to Gothic.
Also other few Gutnish words that I saw in other sources looked rather 
 Old Norse or Swedish than Gothic.
And in any case, knowing only Gothic, nobody would guess that "siau" 
means "sibun" (seven), and even "fiaurir" would be problematic 
(doesn't look very similar to "fidwor").

Francisc

--- In gothic-l at y..., dirk at s... wrote:
> --- In gothic-l at y..., Tore Gannholm <tore.gannholm at s...> wrote:
> > Everybody who can read Gothic should be able to read the Gutasaga 
in 
> its
> > original language Gutnish (Gotlandic).
> > There is a German translation but no English translation.
> > Tore
> 
> 
> Hi Tore,
> 
> that is very interesting, because that implies that Gothic is not an 
> extinct language after all, given that there are still some 2000 
> speakers of Gutnish (Gotlandic) around. Can you provide some 
examples 
> of the Gutnish language Tore. 
> 
> I only found the following numerals in Old-Gutnish:
> 
> 
> 1. ann
> 2. tueir
> 3. ?
> 4. fiaurir
> 5. ?
> 6. ?
> 7. siau
> 
> 
> I don't know Gothic, so perhaps somebody on the list could tell us, 
> whether this is sufficiently close to Gothic to allow for mutual 
> intelligibility. Does anybody have the Gothic numerals 1-10?
> 
> cheers,
> Dirk
> 



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