[gothic-l] Re: The Goths, Gutland (Gutones) and the Guta Saga

Tore Gannholm tore.gannholm at SWIPNET.SE
Tue Jun 12 18:49:46 UTC 2001


>> Maybe somebody can tell us whether this is the same or similar to
>> Gothic. I have messaged a friend at the Institute of Linguistics at
>> Stockholm University, but have not yet had an answer.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Dirk
>
>I don't understand this question, I think, for it seems too simple to say
>that Gothic is *not* the Gotlandic dialect of Old Swedish.

I am a bit confused. Do you say that Gotlandic is a dialect of Old Swedish?
Swedish and Gotlandic are two different languages. Gotlandic being the
older language.
Tore


The similarities
>which the two bear, and perhaps only by coincidence (the latter is in this
>way conservative), are mostly phonological, as Gordon's words made clear in
>my last post on the subject. The following shows that, having considered
>phonological similarities such as diphthongs, even in a slavish translation
>the two languages are very different.
>
>> "Mangir kunungar striþu a Gutland miþan haiþit war; þau hieldu Gutar e
>> iemlika sigri oc ret sinum. Siþan sentu Gutar sendimen manga
>> til Swiarikis, en engin þaira ficc friþ gart, fyrr þan Awair Strabain
>> af Alfa socn, hann gierþi fyrsti friþ wiþr Swia kunung."
>
>filu þiudanai waihun ana Gut-land(a) miþþanei haiþnata was; þauh haihaldun
>Gutos aiw sigis jah *garaiht seinamma. þanaseiþs sandidedun Gutos filu
>?sagjans du *Swiareika, iþ ni ainshun ize gafriþon mahta faurþizei [Awair
>Strabain af Alfa socn], is taujada frumist friþu wiþra Swia-þiudan.
>
>Matþaius
>
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