[gothic-l] Re: EE Jews descend from Goths

[dirk at SMRA.CO.UK]

--- In gothic-l at y..., czobor at c... wrote:
> --- In gothic-l at y..., jdm314 at a... wrote:
> >...
> > Blaibt a Bua stehn bai da Tür.
> > Er sogt voller Liab zu ihr: >>
> > 
> > I note that you rhyme ue with i. Are they pronounced the same, or 
is 
> this just an imperfect rhyme?
> > 
> > 
> > << Grüss Gott!
> > Keth >>
> > 
> > A gezunt inem heym!
> > IUSTEINUS
> > 
> > (AHAH! There IS a Gothic word in this post!)
> 
> Yes, they are pronounced the same in the modern High-German 
dialects.
> "Tür" (door) sounds like "Tier" (animal). This pronounciation 
affects 
> even the cultured poetry, since even Goethe rhymes ü with i.
> 
> Francisc


Hi Francisc,

the two words may form a rhyme because there are not many words with 
umlaut 'ue', and the actual rhyme could affect the pronounciation of 
the words somewhat to make the rhyme 'work'. Otherwise there is a 
clear difference between the pronounciation of Tier and Tuer and no 
German would mistake one for another. The only difficulty arises with 
'ue' and 'y', not with 'i' let alone 'ie' which is a long 'i'.

cheers
Dirk




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