[gothic-l] Re: "Eruli", "Goths", "Danes" and wherefrom the runes

[Dr. Dirk Faltin <dirk@smra.co.uk>]

> >>  > would not have been received by Theoderic. Similarly, those
> >Heruls who joined the Langobards, may partly have been Christians.
> >The remaining group which wondered around, starving and suffering
> >abuse and defeat by Gepids likely included those Herulic elements
> >which were composed of steppe nomads of ethinic
> >Hunnic/Mongolic/Turkic/Alanic origin. The non-germanic names of
> >their later federate kings like Grepes, Ochos, and probably Datius
> >and Aordos would support this view. We must not forget that the
> >Heruls were a multi-ethnic group. The non-Germanic and non-
Christian
> >components of the Heruls likely found it most difficult to seek
> >integration among Langobards and Ostrogoths, which would have been
> >the normal course of action otherwise.
>


> Again, do you have any source that proves your statement.


Tore,

the fact that the Heruls were scattered among several other peoples
of the same region can be established from the contemporary sources
like Procopius who reported about the defeated and starving Heruls
who sought refuge first among Gepids and then among Romans. Also,
Cassiorodus attested that defeated Heruls also fled to Italy after
the annihlation of their kingdom by the Langobards. (See the archives
of this list and/or Germanic -L for the exact references) The
integration of Heruls into the Langobards can be deducted from the
Historia Langobadorum, which reports that the Langobardic king took
the royal insignia of the Herulic king. This act likely meant that he
also took the overlordship of the followers of Rodolph, the last
independent Herulic king. Also, interation of defeated enimies is a
directly attested custom for the Langobards and will no doubt have
taken place in 509AD. Wacho's marriage to Silinga, the daughter of
Rodolph was likely instigated in order to facilitate the integration
and garner support among Herulic factions among the Langobards.

Dirk




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