[gothic-l] Tracing the Eruli

george knysh gknysh at YAHOO.COM
Tue Dec 24 16:25:11 UTC 2002


 --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Dirk Faltin
<dirk at s...>"
> <dirk at s...> wrote:

I noted earlier, that when mittle Danubian Germanics
from Moravia and
Bohemia (exactly the same region were the Moravian
Heruls lived)
migrated to modern south west Germany in the late 5th
early 6th
century, they left a clear and unmistakable
archaeological record of
their migration and their presence. Until such a
record is found in
Scandianvia I remain sceptical about any significant
migration of
Danube-Germanic cultures to there.

*****GK: Apparently (pace Mahomedov)the East European
Eruli cannot be clearly identified except as being a
part of the "Germanic" component of the Chernyakhiv
culture. In order to prove "archaeologically" that the
East Eruli migrated to Moravia in the mid-5th century,
we need to have clearcut evidence that the material
culture of this area has verifiable links (not just
superficial similarities) to the Chernyakhiv culture.
Does such evidence exist? I know that Tejral and
others have done work here but don't remember that in
previous discussions the point I am asking about was
made. Perhaps it was, but this has slipped my mind for
the moment.==== Now let us assume (this argument is ad
hoc and will be cancelled if a convincing answer is
made to the above), that there is no conclusive
archaeological proof of a linkage between the material
culture of Gothic Ukraine and Erulian Moravia. This
would suggest that the Eruli changed "culture"
relatively quickly. In that case the search for
material evidence of their movement to Scandinavia
becomes less significant and certainly no basis for
scepticism with respect to attestations in the
historical sources. We are after all discussing the
migration of ERULI, not of "Danube-Germanic
cultures".*******




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