[gothic-l] Re: (H)eruli

[Tore Gannholm]

Hi!
Have you read
Guns, Germs and Steel
The Fates of Human Societies
Jared Diamond

Sometimes the conqueror adopts the customs, religion and language (or
part of it) from the conquered people. Sometimes it is the other way
round.

The name Svear is not used used until later. In Beowulf they are
called Scylfinga. The name Svear is not used yet. We are not even
sure they called themselves Heruls. It could be the Romans that
called them Heruls?!

Grobin is close to Libau in Latvija and Apoule is a little further inland.

Elibing or Elblag is east of Gdansk in Poland.

Tore




>Hail Tore!
>I just left your site, great info., and I am not in disagreement with
>your conclusions.  But a question, I know that the names of tribes
>can sometimes get garbled by the medievalist records keeper,
>f.ex., "East Goth and West Goth" became "Goth and Magoth" from the
>biblical "Gog and Magog".  That said, if the Romans are calling a
>particular people "the (H)eruli", then who is calling the Svear "the
>Svear"?
>And, in your opinion, how do the 1st person "ek erilaR" runestones,
>which appear during the same time period, fit into the puzzle, after
>all, they don't say "ek Suear"?
>Finally, where is Grobin, Apuole and Elbing?
>Odhvaknir
>

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