[gothic-l] Re: Goths, Goetaland, Gotland

faltin2001 dirk at SMRA.CO.UK
Mon May 27 07:38:44 UTC 2002


There is a more recent book, by a real historian and real experts
(not a hobby historian and journalist like Peter Arens), which should
be most interesting for those still flogging the Scandinavian origin
theory. The book is by Walter Pohl and is called 'Die
Voelkerwanderung: Eroberung und Integration', Kohlhammer Verlag,
2002.

I shall provide a synopsis of some of the material from the book
later on. But in short Pohl discusses the supposedly Scandinavian
origin of Goths, Langobards and Burgundians and shows conclusively
that modern historians and archaeologists reject this for all three
peoples.

Dirk






--- In gothic-l at y..., "Bertil Haggman" <mvk575b at t...> wrote:
> Al,
>
> There is compelling evidence that the Goths migrated
> from southern Scandinavia (the region of Goetaland
> or/and the island of Gotland). This matter has been
> extensively discussed on this list. Important is the
> linguistical similarity between the people name
> Goths/Goti, the Gothic god Gaut, the names Gautaland/
> Goetaland, the island of Gotland, and the name of the people who
> lived and lives in Goetaland, the Gautar/Goetar.
>
> The importance of the Visigothic and Ostrogothic
> kingdoms and Span and Italy has been described
> in a recent valuabel work by Peter Arens, _Sturm
> ueber Europa_ (Storm over Europe), Munich 2002.
>
> I will resend some of my contributions to give you
> further indications on possible Gothic migration
> from South Scandinavia.
>
> Gothically
>
> Bertil Haggman
>
>
>
> > Iam new to this group, but Iam have strong interest in the Gothic
> > peoples of Europe. I still to believe that the peoples of
southern
> > Sweden, and Gotland, Northern Germany, Western Russia, and
English
> > people (distant relation;will be discuused) have Goth blood that
runs
> > in their veins. They are a very unique group of people, as 300
> > century they conquered nealy all of Scythia, blandeting all
Scythia
> > tribes and 'slammed' into the Black sea far south. They also
migrated
> > west towards the Rhein river, crossed it, and have emulated with
> > other peoples and other who have split the tribe and established
own
> > tribes in Germany, which interculturalted many German tribes and
> > peoples. Then the West Goths, or politically correct the
Visigoths,
> > crossed the Rhein to conquer Spain of course. They have been seen
> > very barbaric and one of the worst what the Romans called, but
their
> > culture favored the Romans as much as they wanted an Empire like
the
> > Romans.


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