[gothic-l] Germanic and Rumania was Re: Goths and Getae

Егоров Владимир vegorov at IPIRAN.RU
Fri Jul 4 11:12:02 UTC 2003


Hi Dirk!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />



Don't you overestimate the time period when



"Germanic tribes, especially Goths and Gepids occupied
the area of modern Rumania... some 300 years or so"?



Real influence of the Goths in Dacia could not
begin before Valentus, i.e. the end of the 4th c.
and could not help finishing after Avar invasion
in 6th c. Hence, we do not gather even 200 years.
Further, the term "occupied" seems to be too
pretentious. Visigoths, though having shattered
Valentus, seized no towns. There are serious
doubts that the Goths (plus the Gepides) really
did occupy (!) Dacia and were there real rulers.
As opposed to the Romans.



Vladimir



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From: faltin2001 [mailto:dirk at smra.co.uk]
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Subject: [gothic-l] Germanic and Rumania was Re: Goths and Getae


Hi Francisc,

Germanic tribes, especially Goths and Gepids occupied the area of
modern Rumania for a relatively long period of time. In parts I guess
maybe some 300 years or so. Yet, why do you think it is that the
Romance language of the previous population survived this period. The
Romans had occupied the area only from about 106AD to 276AD. Yet,
they had apparently a much more profound impact on the population. In
only 170 years they had afforded a language change, while some 300
years of Germanic settlement left no or few traces in the modern
Romanic language.

Now, this survival of the Rumanian/Romance language seems to indicate
that during the whole period of Germanic settlement in those areas
there remained a relatively strong local population. However,
historical source do not seem to report much if anything about them.
What is the view of Romanian historiography to account for this?

Thanks
Dirk







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