[gothic-l] Re: Gothic equivalent for English 'must'

Giuseppe Pagliarulo g.pagliarulo at TIN.IT
Mon May 10 22:39:55 UTC 2004


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From: "matthew carver" <me at matthewcarver.com>
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Subject: Re: [gothic-l] Re: Gothic equivalent for English 'must'

> also there i believe is the possibility of
> the construction "skulds ist (+DAT)"
> meaning it is owing, lawful. Thaurfts
> from tharf- has the meaning of necessity,
> obligation. I thought these were impersonal
> constructions requiring a dative. Where
> does the phrase with thaurfts occur in the
> gothic bible as a modal or auxiliary verb?

Hails, Matthew and Llama,
_thaurfts ist_ is attested in Luke 19:34, but not as an auxiliary
verb: fraujin thaurfts ist this "the lord needs this" (literally
"there is the need of this for the lord"). thaurfts is a -i
substantive here.
As you know, we do have instances of the similarly built adjectives
_mahts_ and _skulds_ as predicates in phrases with _ist_ and in
personal use. One example for all: the infamous _hvaiwa mahts ist
manna altheis wisands gabairan_? in the Skeireins.

Iosef Strawarila





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