[gothic-l] Re: Gothic Language (Romans 1-3 Reconstruction)

thiudans thiudans at YAHOO.COM
Thu Oct 14 05:36:05 UTC 2004


A couple questions for you concerning the words in brackets, 
words I have questions about and would like collaborative 
confirmation:

In 1:16 the use of "faurthis"
1:20 *gudiskei; your preference of *unsunjodai (cf. also 2:1 *
ungasunjoths) or *unfaurqithanai, or perhaps a periphrasis?
1:21 *riqizidedun or a periphrasis?
1:26 *wisteigs etc. = "natural". agree or have other suggestion?
1:28 taujan, du taujan or ei taujaina?, also does *ungasatido  
(also in 1:31) make sense?

More on skathis, this was taken from 2 Cor. 12:13. Inwinditha is 
used almost universally elsewhere.

Also, more information on "disniman". Here i think it is right, in 
the sense of "suppress". Here it is in the new american 
standard (most literal reputed): 18  	For the wrath of God is 
revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and 
unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in 
unrighteousness,

 Greek idiomatic sort of preposition at the end there. I.E. People 
who suppress the truth (which is an unrighteous thing to do) or 
People who are unrighteous because they suppress (i.e. hold 
back, withhold, hide) the truth. Koebler gives the meaning 
"possess, keep", which may be the general meaning in Latin 
and Greek (possidere and katekhw). Perhaps the phrase "in 
unrighteousness" is meant to augment or specify the meaning 
of "katekhw", i.e. "the kind of possessing that is unrighteous" i.e. 
"evilly hoarding or keeping [without letting others see it--or 
whatever in context would be considered evil]"

Perhaps warjan would be good. cf. Luke 6:29? werjais (Gk. 
kwluseis) MnE "withhold"

2:5 *hardithai
2:28 *andaugjon for [en tw fanerw] ... 

And if you have a good idea for

3:2 Gk. logia MnE "oracles"

Cheers,
Matthew







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