[gothic-l] Romans 1-3 Reconstruction (*bruk-)

[llama_nom]

Hails Maththaiu!

In OE at least, bryce is a masc. ja-stem:

BRYCE, brice, es; m. [brycst, brfcst, pres. of brucan to usi, enjoy] 
Use, service, the occupation or exercise of a thing, profit, 
advantage, fruit; usus, rninisteriurn, conirnodurn :-- Gif ðæt ówiht 
brýce wzs if thai was any use; si hoc aliquid prodesset, Bd. 5, 14; 
S. 634, 8, note. Láfe on hwylc hugu fatu gehiwade wæ-acute;ron 
mennisces bryces recisuræ in vasa quælibet humani usus formarentur, 
3, 22; S. 552, 14. Brice oððe gewuna asus, Ælfc. Gr. n; Som. 15, 16. 
Ealle werþeóde lifgaþ bí ðám lissum, ðe éce Dryhten gesette sínum 
bearnum to brice all tribes of men live by the blessings, which the 
eternal Lord bestowed on 'his children for their use, Exon. 54 b; Th. 
193, 3; Az. 116. We sceoldon ða hwílend-lícan þing to úrum brícum 
habban we should have transitory things for ' K 

(Bosworth & Toller)

Aha, the advantage of doing corrections on these pages is that I can 
now decypher some of the garbling!

So yes, this does have has the right range of meanings, and suggests 
Go. *brukeis.  Except that NHG brauch & Nor. bruk (from Low German, 
or native?) have no mutation.  I wonder how early the word is 
recorded on the continent.  But then palatal mutation isn't as 
thorough in some German dialects: cf. bruecke v. Innsbruck.  
Alternatively I wonder if the OE word could have changed declension 
with the loss of -z, and perhaps correspond to a Go. *brukei??  Or, 
as you suggest, fi *bruks.  Maybe a comparison with other cognates 
will help.  Something to think about...

The adjective, by the way, is definitely an i-stem, rather than ja-, 
cf. Corinthians I 10:33 [A] þatei mis bruk sijai; Sk 4,3 so bi ina 
garehsns du leitilamma mela raihtis bruks was.  (Koebler's dictionary 
sometimes implies doubt in cases like this were there is none, e.g. 
skeirs, also i-stem, cf. Sk 4,4).

Llama Nom

(P.S. Nu skal ik mik silban garaihtjan. Than "ufarmunodes" gamelida, 
thanuh skuldedjau twaddje N-e gabrukjan, swa: "ufarmunnodes".)







> As you see, i thought the problem lay in the fact that  
Gk. 'crhsin', 
> Lat. 'usu' were not mentioned under sidus or biuhti.  Dutch has 
> "gebruik", Norwegian "bruk", Icelandic "mökum"; Swedish 
> "umgäng", Danish "omgang", Germ. "Brauch". German has the 
> word "Sitte" of course, as well as Gewohnheit, which do not 
> occur here, though do other places for different words (as noted 
> in Koebler). If biuhti may be seen as a close relative in *spirit* 
to 
> "omgang", "umgäng" (the NEGerm. choice), we have here in the 
> Gothic an interesting dilemma.
> 
> On the other hand, the cognate to my tentative construction 
> "bru'ks" (mA) in GW is found as bru'ks (i/jaA): brauchbar; useful, 
> serviceable, usable: Gr. eukhreestos, sumferein (=bru'ks 
> wisan), oofelimos. Lat. utilis.  Thus bru'ks is seen at least in 
> respect to Greek and Latin as an adjectival from connected to 
> the (eu)khrao- / usu- root idea. These two words, in noun form, 
> have converging meanings in precisely this verse in question, 
> i.e. Gk. khreesin, Latin usum.
> 
> It may therefore be possible here to suggest, at the risk of 
> placing continuity and invention before the constricture of lack 
> (and the repitition and stiff fit that go therewith), *bruki (nJA), 
or *
> bru'ks (fI), with possible ga- prefix, as a usable relative of the 
> already existing Gothic family of cognates to Germ. Brauch, 
> gebrauchen; Nor. bruk, bruke.viz. bru'ks, brukjan--as filling a 
role 
> which it is unnecessary to think should be filled by any other 
> word only nearly fitting the need at hand--or should we prefer the 
> bird in the hand to the two in the bush, so to speak? i.e. the less 
> perfectly fitting thing that exists rather than the perfect fit 
which is 
> invented but for which this is so much compelling evidence?
> 
 

> gawairthi,
> > Llama Nom (jah wenja ei gamuneis thammei ufarmunnodes!)
> 
> 
> thank you again Llama.
> 
> -Matthaius
> 
> ufta jah unweniggo mis silbin ist Ufarmaudei in husa 
> meinamma gasts, jah swistar mifl sis Airzei haitana.





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