[gothic-l] what is the real objection against the Scandiavian origin of the Goths?

Tore Gannholm tore at GANNHOLM.ORG
Tue Apr 5 11:53:04 UTC 2005


Hi,
I don't think there is any real objections against the Baltic area with 
Gotland in the centre having been very influential in the forming of 
the Goths.
It is only that some scholars can't accept this. The Polish 
archaeologists who have excavated the Gothic areas in the last 30 years 
fully accept it.

However, the problem is more complicated than most people think. The 
contacts during the millennia before zero between Gotland and some 
costal areas on the Swedish Baltic coast are extensive.

Suggested reading Kaliffs book "Gothic connections" 
http://www.stavgard.com/Gotland/gothicconnectio_/gothic/default.htm

Tore



On Mar 23, 2005, at 9:56 PM, vendelkrka wrote:

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>  I have read a lot about the pros and cons about the Scandinavian
>  origin of the Goths, and I simply don't understand why some scholars
>  are so categorically against it.
>
>  The way I see it, Poland is either the urheimat of the Germanic
>  languages, or the Gothic language arrived to the Vistula basin from
>  somewhere else. If we look at toponymics the names Götaland and
>  Gotland are already suggesting where to look for the origin. If we
>  combine with Jordanes account, it becomes even more convincing.
>  Moreover, the Gothic language had a great deal in common with North
>  Germanic and especially with Gutnish.
>
>  Now, I'd be perfectly happy if there was a just as convincing theory
>  about a north German origin, but AFAIK, there is none.
>
>  My impression is that the archaelogical objections are carefully
>  limited to the time period after 100 BC, ignoring the period 600 BC-
>  300 BC when the climate of Scandinavia deteriorated.
>
>  So what is the REAL problem with the Scandinavian origin?
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